Fight Randomized Opponents and Buffs in Sinister Labs!

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  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

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    @DNA3000 I personally think this matchups is worse due to there only being 1 counter in the game a max sig namor
    I’m not sure if quake could outdamage the starburst or void
    And blade would get wrecked by clapback
    Gulk can take a decent chunk of his health at 5:65 but I didn’t manage to get a one shot (30% health left)

    I don't have one at 5* or 6* yet, but I wonder if Omega Red could take that node at rank 5.
    Unfortunately not glancing 100% ability accuracy reduction overrides his 100% chance to not take damage
    I was thinking of going in with suicides and letting the spores do as much of the work as possible.
    I think starburst would kill you and I don’t think you could get enough damage off (he had about 130k health)
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    Haji_Saab said:

    Kobster84 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Kobster84 said:



    @DNA3000 I personally think this matchups is worse due to there only being 1 counter in the game a max sig namor
    I’m not sure if quake could outdamage the starburst or void
    And blade would get wrecked by clapback
    Gulk can take a decent chunk of his health at 5:65 but I didn’t manage to get a one shot (30% health left)

    I don't have one at 5* or 6* yet, but I wonder if Omega Red could take that node at rank 5.
    Unfortunately not glancing 100% ability accuracy reduction overrides his 100% chance to not take damage
    Sparky can do it ... build poise to max and parry heavy only ... might just be lucky but heavies were not glancing for me
    I think that’s just good luck I think if was an antman there instead of green goblin chance would be like 135% and therefore guaranteed glance
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,511 ★★★★★
    The issue I have with this Lab is the same issue I had with the previous. If you have random Buffs that adds a layer of difficulty that can be fun. When you have Champs that are too high on top of that, it magnifies it tenfold.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,511 ★★★★★
    Lvernon15 said:

    Yeah I'm out on this one. I'm not doing 2 of these a day for a month. Some might enjoy them. It's a miss for me. Too much.

    You know it’s a bad event when even gw doesn’t like them
    I like the concept. I'd call it more of a respectful decline. I just think it's too amped up. If the Champs were lower, to a reasonable point where the Buffs added a challenge more in line, I'd be cool. For me personally, it's too much stress to run 2 of them a day. There's been a number of things I don't agree with. I tend to express them while still respecting the team. At least I try. Lol.
  • Rougeknight87Rougeknight87 Member Posts: 599 ★★★
    zeezee57 said:

    I cleared epic with just a couple rerolls but I'm also running a stronger team than I'd assume many are. The rewards do add up over the month but frankly when you're doing it daily and there are some really tough fights and defenders in there it really seems subpar payout for the effort. I'll do them because that's what's there and I can clear without items but I've seen more than a few people who won't be and I totally get why.

    Yeah similar boat for me. When you add up the amount of fights and the PI plus buffs on those fights it’s probably the worst payout ever given.
  • OoaxOoax Member Posts: 2
    It could have been pretty fun and challenging but beating Epic with maxed out 4* champs everyday TWICE is impossible with those random nodes that block your whole lineup : C And how am I supposed to get the T2A to rank up 5* now ? ...
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,058 ★★★★★


    I'm about at the level where I can clear monthly quests on Master and about half of Epic without using any items and not much difficulty. Purely FTP.

    The Master labs this month were just way too hard for someone on my level. So if the devs intend for Master monthly quest difficulty to be consistent with Master labs difficulty, they really should tone down some of those numbers and limit the buff pool a bit more. It's quite disappointing for me because I was looking forward to the somewhat lackluster rewards of the Master lab.

    But instead I'm relegated to the Hard difficulty which is supremely easy for me to complete with hardly desirable awards for my player level.

    I have only managed to explore Master difficulty event quest for the first time in June. After reading your post, I decided not even to attempt Lab's Master. I went in to Hard, completed one path and instead of exiting and enter again to run the second path, I press Play Next and I entered into Master. :o

    What to do? I looked at the nodes of each champ and then I thought, why not just try. I cleared both paths without items. :) I am now unsure if it was because the random buffs were gentle or it was not really difficult. What I did not like though was the combined time required to complete the four paths in Hard and Master.

    What level / rank of champs were you using for Lab's Master and was it difficult because you encountered very hard nodes?

  • Suman_sahASuman_sahA Member Posts: 417
    edited August 2019
    I just got Uncollected a week ago.
    I went in epic version - saw 30k pi enemy with varios buff.. I left...
    Then I enter master mode - enemy rating is around 12k - thats ok, faught some fight, then got wasp with ****** buffs on her, rerolled 3 times which got more difficult buff- she only took my 5 champs alone, so I left that also.
    RNG God gave me beast, netflix daredevil, etc (only got hyperion & omega from first 2 5* crystal, after that ******) to grow my roster & fight tricky nodes. Never will do those mode... :'(
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,058 ★★★★★


    Then I enter master mode - enemy rating is around 12k - thats ok, faught some fight, then got wasp with ****** buffs on her, rerolled 3 times which got more difficult buff- she only took my 5 champs alone, so I left that also.

    Did you take a screenshot of the nodes? Wish to understand more.

    Maybe I could be facing problems too for the following days fight.
  • CarlfloraCarlflora Member Posts: 1
    Epic labs are ridiculous. Randomness makes it frustrating, you have to get lucky rolls to get through content. Way to hard for the rewards. Won’t even attempt another epic. I understand making it challenging, but c’mon.
  • Rougeknight87Rougeknight87 Member Posts: 599 ★★★
    Have rewards regressed from the last variation of labs? I honestly can’t remember but 4.5 k T5B is actually less then last months payout for content I can’t even remember. Maybe this month is a square up?
  • Hector_1475Hector_1475 Member Posts: 1,794 ★★★★★
    Honest question: has anyone of you tried any of the Senses boosts? (I know I didn't). I wonder how much they turn the tables in our favor...
  • TheHeroDeservedTheHeroDeserved Member Posts: 752 ★★★
    Honestly, I dont mind the difficulty. However, it feels more like epic is meant for Cavaliers, instead of uncollected. In addition, the rewards should have been seriously increased. Im not dealing with this level of difficulty and struggle each day for a month to gain 30x80 6* shards and 30x350 5* shards.
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★

    Honestly, I dont mind the difficulty. However, it feels more like epic is meant for Cavaliers, instead of uncollected. In addition, the rewards should have been seriously increased. Im not dealing with this level of difficulty and struggle each day for a month to gain 30x80 6* shards and 30x350 5* shards.

    It’s not even 80, it’s 40, 20 per path
  • TheHeroDeservedTheHeroDeserved Member Posts: 752 ★★★
    Lvernon15 said:

    Honestly, I dont mind the difficulty. However, it feels more like epic is meant for Cavaliers, instead of uncollected. In addition, the rewards should have been seriously increased. Im not dealing with this level of difficulty and struggle each day for a month to gain 30x80 6* shards and 30x350 5* shards.

    It’s not even 80, it’s 40, 20 per path
    Yeah, you're right. My mistake. So ill just wait 250 days to claim my 6*......
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    Like I personally find the event fun I do my 4 paths of epic and master and then have fun with epic 6 times
    But if I was to step back to when I used 4* to 100% uncollected I could 100% see myself despising this event
  • TheKiryuTheKiryu Member Posts: 266 ★★★★
    https://youtu.be/4jnGSlXTPXI

    I don’t know - I always enjoy lab random thing, always good fun and some challenging fights, we love to give kabam stick for everything but sometimes things are well just grey- it’s not always black or white.

    I love the event , some will not, doesn’t mean it’s absolutely horrible by any means.
  • NopedroooNopedrooo Member Posts: 116
    Just create a cavalier difficulty in quests already.. epic is just not worth it for anyone in my alliance, even who has elders bane says its too much for too little
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    TheKiryu said:

    https://youtu.be/4jnGSlXTPXI

    I don’t know - I always enjoy lab random thing, always good fun and some challenging fights, we love to give kabam stick for everything but sometimes things are well just grey- it’s not always black or white.

    I love the event , some will not, doesn’t mean it’s absolutely horrible by any means.

    I agree here, and the fact that we have 10 entries means if we go in and it is complete bs, for example my second path on epic I went in and saw domino thing and korg we can just re-enter, I think the reroll should have a 4 week timer though as we will get a bunch early on and be low towards the end of the month, overall I think it’s an alright event, if the rewards were a bit better I think it would be a great event
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Ooax said:

    It could have been pretty fun and challenging but beating Epic with maxed out 4* champs everyday TWICE is impossible with those random nodes that block your whole lineup : C And how am I supposed to get the T2A to rank up 5* now ? ...

    I guess the same way the rest of us did it.

    I really don't understand the people who say they need the rewards in the content in order to beat the content, when everyone currently capable of beating the content had less resources available to them than the players leveling up now. It is not like there was a golden age of T2A falling from the sky in the past that newer players missed out on. Every single thing that's hard for them was harder for players in the past to accomplish.
    They think the game should be designed for them to "catch up" I assume
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    TheKiryu said:

    https://youtu.be/4jnGSlXTPXI

    I don’t know - I always enjoy lab random thing, always good fun and some challenging fights, we love to give kabam stick for everything but sometimes things are well just grey- it’s not always black or white.

    I love the event , some will not, doesn’t mean it’s absolutely horrible by any means.

    I love these as well. I think this is the best iteration of them as well. You have multiple entries if you need a hard reset on a bad champ matchup and there are far more re-rolls available than before.

    I got through epic with no re-entry and a couple of re-rolls. Master was cake
  • hawksterhawkster Member Posts: 6
    these would be fun and challenging if they were actually random. I just did epic, and every, I mean every fight, the defender had a perfect combination of ridiculous buffs. this required using alot of rerolls and me saying how much I hate this game with a few expletives intermixed. the rerolls helped out maybe 1 out if every 3. most of the time the defender got 1 harder buff and 1 knees difficult. not helpful or more importantly, not fun.
  • Spurgeon14Spurgeon14 Member Posts: 1,665 ★★★★

    The stupid thing is that the Epic level looks impossible for your standard Uncollected player, but that's also the only difficulty that has the rewards that we need to GET good enough to beat it. Namely, the all-too-elusive T5BC that is the missing ingredient preventing many of us from maxing out our 5-stars. It's yet another rich get richer situation they've set up here. You cannot beat a line of 30,000 PI champs without 5/65s, yet if we only play the lower levels, we can never get the T5BC needed to rank 5 a 5-star champ.

    It's very doable with 4/55s.
  • RagamugginGunnerRagamugginGunner Member Posts: 2,210 ★★★★★
    edited August 2019
    If you can't get more rewards from completing it multiple times, what's the point in having a limit on entries?
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