**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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I spent a lot of units on the champion fight.. there were many times when I needed one last dexterity to finish it... I bought extra units to make this fight .. even took a break to go watch the Joker and come back to it.. it was ridiculously hard... I noticed that at times the Champion fight was bugged -- I had a dex buff but he didn't lose a charge..
So my perspective is two-fold: (1) a bug that made the fight more difficult for me and the overall high level difficulty of the fight meant I spent a lot of extra units to finish the fight once (2) the difficulty of this champion fight also influenced me to look for solutions and was one of the reasons I spent money to try and obtain BWCV.. This is a reasonable course of action for a player to do in this game!
So when there are nerfs to champions that can help make this one fight easier, it doesn't seem reasonable. I realize that there are many factors that go into your decisions... here's just another perspective..
Thanks for listening.
There are development timelines, milestones, and due dates that can't be ignored. In this case, the earliest we can fix this is with the release in June.
Basically, Life Steal doesn't matter. That's not the issue, and the name doesn't make a different. We could have called it Hit-Regen, and it would have been the same function, but just a different name. The Important part is the clause right after it... 50% of the Damage done to the opponent.
09/24/2019
Claire Voyant vs 6.2 Champion Boss! Best Regen Ever! - Marvel Contest of Champions
So here’s a video form one of Kabam’s own content creators that clearly states how good BWCV was against the 6.2.6 Champion boss before the “bug” fix. It’s in the title. This is the exact video I had in mind when I pulled BWCV and decided to rank her. The video was first released in September of LAST year.
Kabam should be more aware of how their own characters interact with the game before they’re even released. If a “bug” such as BWCV getting regen while the Champion boss has indestructible charges is made publicly aware, oh I don’t know say in a video by one of there own content creators, and it isn’t publicly acknowledged by Kabam as being a “bug” Within a month or so, I think it should be safe for players to assume it’s an actual mechanic of the game and they should not be punished for making rank up decisions based on such information. A month is being generous as I feel they should know their own game well enough for such bugs to be caught long before that. And if not, Kabam should be held accountable and allow such players to reassess the rank up.
Same goes for Morningstar, her regen while the Champion has indestructible charges was made aware to the public on YouTube and forums long before even BWCV. Either the mechanics should have been left functioning as they were and MS and BWCV should continue to regen or Kabam should allow players that ranked up such champions to based on such functions to be reassessed.
Mistakes happen. If Kabam is now saying these are “bugs,” they should own up to their own ignorance that has gone on six plus months and make amends to the members of the community with whom it affects.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1102070#Comment_1102070
From 01/14/2020. Right here in these forums. I’m sure there are other examples of both as well. If they haven’t been deleted already.
Doesn’t Kabam have a responsibility, even an obligation, to monitor the content of these forums, their content creators, as well as the mechanics of their game and make us aware if information provided by those means is faulty? These “bugs” shouldn’t have made it out of testing let alone exist in game for over 6 months. They should allow players to reassess their rank up decisions of these 2 champs given the new information that these characters were “bugged.“ Information which has solely influenced players to rank up these champs for over 6 months.
Very well written, couldn't agree more.
the change is understandable, however at the same time these "Bugs" have been in the game so long that people have assumed its working as intended because there is countless videos showcasing these abilities that have never been flagged as such.
Take BWCV you had the content creators use this champion and take it into various game modes and you can't tell me you haven't seen those videos as i'm sure there is a process to ensure they aren't using these champions in content they haven't completed. Also they would be giving feedback too. Someone pointed out earlier a video from Lagacy showcasing the regen in the champion boss fight that was uploaded in September last year. That's 6 months this has been in the game.
Morningstar has been in the game for so long and this ability has been around for a long time (2017). There has been loads of nodes or abilities that are similar to that in 6.2.6 Boss fight e.g. Hela, Punisher, Corvus Sig ability, Aegis Node, Luke Cage, 15 combo or less, Crit me if you can etc etc
Players no thanks to the poor design of 6.2 have had to look towards champions capable of taking out the boss by themselves as the gates mean the other 4 slots are taken up by champions to clear gated paths. This champion is one of them. I myself only took up MS to do exactly this. She has been at r4 for a very long time. But seeing all the videos of late of how good she is for this fight and how shes capable, if you are skilled enough to solo the fight is why i r5 her. I have no SS, she hulk i have only recently pulled her, no Stealth spidey or any other options for this fight except throwing units at it. Given this change I rather get my resources back and put them into another champion like she hulk and leave MS at r4.
Also transparency is laughable
Bugs like hitting in block and getting a special to the face are left unchecked and hidden. Really transparent with that right. Thousands of posts with videos pictures descriptions and scenarios all buried under a lie "This has always been possible" yeah because everyone was too dumb to report the issue prior to the first forum post about it. Also wasn't even pinned for people to to see it in view but buried further down the pages.
A, reasonably, fair thing to do is leave MS and BWCV as they were against the Champion boss. So not only the thousands of players that used these champs to clear him could keep their champs the way they are and their content cleared but the thousands that still need to clear him have them out there as a great options. As I suggested in my first post in this thread.
The next most reasonably fair thing to do, the one in which I make my argument for in my third post, is to do what they did with Namor and Cull Obsidian or She-Hulk. Which we know Kabam is capable and willing to do in certain situations. These changes are definitely impactful enough to warrant such actions.
Since Kabam is saying these were “bugs,” the absolute MOST fair thing to do would be to rank down MS and BWCV without giving the players a choice, refund all resources involved in ranking them and beating the Champion, which includes all units still used on items by those who cleared him using them, and the money spent acquiring those units, materials and champs. Sure lets have Kabam, go through and figure out everyone who used them to beat the Champion, calculate the units used both on resources and money spent factoring in all the little facets of what players put into obtaining MS/BWCV and rank up materials as well as cost of items used beating the final 10% of the 6.2.6 Champion boss, refund the units and cash and take away JUST the clears of that last 10% of him. I would be in favor of Kabam doing this because that is what Kabam is implicating by call these “bugs” over six months later and changing them now. Go ahead and do it. Not just part of that but all of it which is the only way it could remotely be fair. Oh and compensating those players for their time as well. This would be the fairest thing to do but I personally don’t find that the slightest bit practical. If Kabam does than by all means do it ALL.
So to be perfectly clear I support, in order:
1.) Complete eradication and refund of all associated with the MS/BWCV and final 10% of the 6.2.6 Champion boss.
2.) Leaving MS and BWCV as they were in regards to that part of the Champion interaction.
3.) Offer players the option of keeping MS/BWCV in their current state or sell them and get all resources invested into them returned.
I think the community deserves and should demand nothing less than one of those three options.
Excellent points of how much further beyond the 6.2.6 Champion goes with MS/BWCV and why leaving them function as they have been or rank downs should happen in this case.
How would it even be possible to roll back everything with option 1 you suggested?
Also, if they leave the interaction as it is, it will have to be left for all instances where a champion gets indestructible attack or defender. So that means it would have a chance to work against us as well. Cant wait for those threads to hit the forums.
Who in their right mind would even consider selling BWCV or even Morningstar? That's just crazy talk. Both have a ton of value in so many parts of the game.
That’s not for me or you to decide. I’m saying players should be given the option if Kabam insists on sticking with ‘it’s a bug fix’ after all this time and not either leaving it as a mechanic in the game or giving a total refund of everything related to those rank up and use against the Champion boss.
How would it even be possible to roll back everything with option 1 you suggested?
Which is why I said it’s “not the slightest bit practical.“
Also, if they leave the interaction as it is, it will have to be left for all instances where a champion gets indestructible attack or defender. So that means it would have a chance to work against us as well. Cant wait for those threads to hit the forums.
That is how it’s been all this time without complaint that I’ve heard of. Change the wording to-“of potential damage dealt.” Problem solved.