Morningstar Life Steal Bug Fix

Maddog0894

Bwcv and Morningstar can no longer regen vs the champion??!!??!! Why is it that something that has worked in the game for the longest all of a sudden changed and called a bug?? This is the same thing as she hulk all over again. I finally pull a good champ to fight the champion boss and they get nerfed right after ranking bwcv to r2 6*. It isn’t right and something needs to be done to fix it. Ppl have been using these champs for ages to beat him. Now no one else can? How is this right?? Thoughts anyone?

Savage

They were nerfed for the last 10% and not even their nullify capabilities just their healing. They are still useable and were never intended to regen without dealing damage. Just calm down it's not even worth the dramatic title of a nerf. She hulk absolutely needed the nerf as well she was too powerful with her heavy combo. They didn't just change her either they changed many champs such as luke cage, venom, and old man logan who would've been almost as op with the heavy combo.

Kroden0517

They did it on the down low too. #shady

Maddog0894

That’s not the point man. Something works in the game for the longest and then all of a sudden they call it a bug and make changes with no feedback from the community? She hulk needed a nerf?? Are you kidding.

Sw0rdMaster

It's safer now to not rank the latest champ until months or even years later, until they are forgotten by Kabam & the community, and only then you can be certain there will be no further changes to the champ.

Savage

Maddog0894 said:

That’s not the point man. Something works in the game for the longest and then all of a sudden they call it a bug and make changes with no feedback from the community? She hulk needed a nerf?? Are you kidding.

Hey don't get mad at me, it's Kabam's fault for not testing and catching these bugs earlier. There was almost no content on the heavy attack chain combos until she hulk's rework when it became popular. It's not like she hulk is bad now she is arguably still a top champion.

-sixate-

Read their abilities. They regen based on damage dealt. If no damage is dealt then how can they regen? It was broken from the start. It did take them way too long to fix it, but fixing it was the right call.

SuperiorSymbiote

It was a bug without dealing any damage they shouldn’t be able to regen

Maddog0894

Larry_Bobinskin said:

It's safer now to not rank the latest champ until months or even years later, until they are forgotten by Kabam & the community, and only then you can be certain there will be no further changes to the champ.

That’s the thing though. Morningstar has been in the game for ages man. It’s worked this way for ages and now all of a sudden it’s a bug?? It’s bs.

Greekhit

That is totally unfair to those haven’t done The Champion fight yet. Many people have taken advantage of those champions for beating this fight and now the rest have to do it without these assets. In my opinion the very least Kabam needs to do to compensate for this and restore balance is to tone down this toxic fight and reduce The Champion indestructible charges to 3 instead of 5. The no retreat path is close to undoable now.

Maddog0894

You can’t say something is broken for over a year. Morningstar has been in the for much longer and it’s been this way. How you gonna call something broke and then fix it so long afterwards

Savage

What do you expect to come from this post? It's just the same arguments from the she hulk post so why bother making a similar one? You already know what the response from Kabam will be. Just let it go. They are still amazing champions

Johnyzero

I just ranked MS up this week to only with the purpose to explore 6.2.6. Couldn’t come at a worse time.

Savage

Greekhit said:

That is totally unfair to those haven’t done The Champion fight yet. Many people have taken advantage of those champions for beating this fight and now the rest have to do it without these assets. In my opinion the very least Kabam needs to do to compensate for this and restore balance is to tone down this toxic fight and reduce The Champion indestructible charges to 3 instead of 5. The no retreat path is close to undoable now.

I agree with you on the no retreat path. Kinda questionable why Kabam still hasn't toned down the champion fight because it definitely needs it.

Maddog0894

Greekhit said:

That is totally unfair to those haven’t done The Champion fight yet. Many people have taken advantage of those champions for beating this fight and now the rest have to do it without these assets. In my opinion the very least Kabam needs to do to compensate for this and restore balance is to tone down this toxic fight and reduce The Champion indestructible charges to 3 instead of 5. The no retreat path is close to undoable now.

This is exactly my point. Ppl got to beat the champion with she hulk. Now Morningstar and bwcv. They’re just eliminating all the great counters until the only way you can do it is buy opening you wallet. It’s already a shite fight to begin with.

Bugmat78

I agree - down with this sort of thing.

Savage

Maddog0894 said:

Greekhit said:

That is totally unfair to those haven’t done The Champion fight yet. Many people have taken advantage of those champions for beating this fight and now the rest have to do it without these assets. In my opinion the very least Kabam needs to do to compensate for this and restore balance is to tone down this toxic fight and reduce The Champion indestructible charges to 3 instead of 5. The no retreat path is close to undoable now.

This is exactly my point. Ppl got to beat the champion with she hulk. Now Morningstar and bwcv. They’re just eliminating all the great counters until the only way you can do it is buy opening you wallet. It’s already a shite fight to begin with.

She Hulk, Morningstar, and BWCV can still do the fight. Each have a way around his unstoppable effect and the last 2 have regen throughout the fight until the last phase. The 2 mystics can also nullify his furies to prevent excessive block damage.

Maddog0894

-sixate- said:

Read their abilities. They regen based on damage dealt. If no damage is dealt then how can they regen? It was broken from the start. It did take them way too long to fix it, but fixing it was the right call.

I know how to fn read mate. How about you ask kabam why they’re not reading what they put into the game before some ppl benefit from it before they decide to call it a bug??

Kroden0517

They should have been way more transparent about it. Everyone should have received an in game message about this. I get this was something not working as intended but slipping it in and them. It understanding why people are upset is ridiculous.

Kroden0517

will-o-wisp said:

Don't create duplicated threads, when there are already tons of others out there abou the same thing.

If they would address it publicly then people would quit bringing it up.

Unknown

This content has been removed.

Savage

ReallyYeah said:

It's not a nerf. It's a fix

Kabam mods please close this thread

This thread seems too personal rather than constructive. Like it was meant to rile up the forum community. It's not even a major change as she hulk or gwenpool which could be used in every fight.

StevieManWonder

On the bright side BWCV is an amazing champion so taking up to r2 is still a good thing

Savage

StevieManWonder said:

On the bright side BWCV is an amazing champion so taking up to r2 is still a good thing

If only people like OP and "certain" MCOC youtubers could see this.

allinashes

I'm making sure I spread the word of this to my ally chat. I and others have been recommending ranking BWCV and MS for this fight. Do your non-forum visiting friends a solid and make sure they know this.

Edit: Is this in game now or with next update?

Unknown

This content has been removed.

kenadroid

𝗦𝗮𝘃𝗮𝗴𝗲 said:

They were nerfed for the last 10% and not even their nullify capabilities just their healing. They are still useable and were never intended to regen without dealing damage. Just calm down it's not even worth the dramatic title of a nerf. She hulk absolutely needed the nerf as well she was too powerful with her heavy combo. They didn't just change her either they changed many champs such as luke cage, venom, and old man logan who would've been almost as op with the heavy combo.

The big question is why only now? After 6 long months and when 6.4 has been released?

Savage

kenadroid said:

𝗦𝗮𝘃𝗮𝗴𝗲 said:

They were nerfed for the last 10% and not even their nullify capabilities just their healing. They are still useable and were never intended to regen without dealing damage. Just calm down it's not even worth the dramatic title of a nerf. She hulk absolutely needed the nerf as well she was too powerful with her heavy combo. They didn't just change her either they changed many champs such as luke cage, venom, and old man logan who would've been almost as op with the heavy combo.

The big question is why only now? After 6 long months and when 6.4 has been released?

Some bugs take longer to catch than others. They are to blame for their lateness but people must acknowledge that this IS a bug. It's only the last 10% anyways which is only problematic with these champs if you haven't gotten the dexes down or the no retreat node is up.

LeNoirFaineant

I intended to disagree with the OP but I kind of agree. Morningstar wasn't bugged, they just didn't foresee her interaction with the Champion. But if lots of players got to use this they ought to just leave it

Savage

LeNoirFaineant said:

I intended to disagree with the OP but I kind of agree. Morningstar wasn't bugged, they just didn't foresee her interaction with the Champion. But if lots of players got to use this they ought to just leave it

It states in their abilities that they heal based on damage dealt. It's clearly a bug since champion is indestructible in his final phase. Same goes for rogue, guilly, and omega if they were to life steal in this fight.

SummonerNR