**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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She-Hulk's in-game actions were adjusted to match the original intent the developers had for her.
Morningstar and BWCV are now having their in-game actions adjusted to match the original intent the developers had for them.
She-Hulk's adjustment was the result of a bug.
Morningstar and BWCV's adjustment is the result of a bug.
She-Hulk's adjustment warranted a Rank Down Ticket.
Morningstar and BWCV's adjustment also warrants rank down tickets.
Kabam even stated in the She-Hulk announcement, they recognize that, obvious or not, there are some players that likely ranked She Hulk not knowing this repeatable ability was unintended, so players need to evaluate the change to see if they're worth the resources once they're fixed. How is that any different than this.
For me, the degree to which a champion changes doesn't matter. When Cull Obsidian was re-balanced, he didn't change much, but he was adjusted downward, so Rank Down Tickets were given out. This is how it should go. Are Morningstar and BWCV impacted by this change less than She Hulk was by hers? Of course. But they were adjusted down nonetheless and should be ranked down if the player so chooses.
Why the single minded insistence from you, really and others that the code be changed to match the description?
I happily took Morningstar to 6* r2 if it meant I would save myself a thousand units on revives. Plus, it’s a return on investment, completing Act 6 100% will net me more materials and rewards. It’s not a waste to rank a specific champ for a specifically hard boss if it means it will save you units, revives or real money to get through.
If i were aware it was a bug I would have either saved my resources and waited until I got a good counter to 100% 6.2 or would have taken a different champ to r2 who I could use for Abyss
Flow
Kamala
Thing
Parry
Morningstar
Bwcv
Gulk and bane
Benefits the players; bug that must be fixed, leave the text
Benefits kabam; working as intended, change the text
What baffles me is the players in these forums who only want changes that benefit kabam.
Again you’re grasping at straws bud I clearly said that you bare face indestructible In general vs she hulk where you can spam heavies or chain heavies In ALL fights
These two situations are completely different
YouTube videos explicitly said she was one of the top champs and
The only thing you’re right is about she hulk and the regen fix is that it took this long
But in reality no one used she hulk that much pre or post buff so in reality very little was said over all does show a lot of incompetence I’m the game team
One fight should not determine rank down tickets, especially if the bug is relating towards very very minor aspects of the game indestructible is still rare in the game and the chances of using BWCV or MS against those abilities are rare as it is
She hulk heavy combo wouldn’t be as easily noticeable as a bug because people obviously assume it’s just the way her animations work same way different champs have longer light attacks or heavy
This on the other hand is just a clear bug
I'll reiterate the heart of my position: if any champ is allowed to exist for an extended period of time and a bug is discovered that requires a fix that adjusts the champ in a negative way, rank down tickets should be issued.
For an extreme example, if they came out and said tomorrow that Limbo was not intended to erase the damage from Recoil when using Magik, that would be a huge change and clearly rank down tickets would be warranted. I'd also argue that if Kabam stated that a coding error gave Ghost 1% more health than she's supposed to have and she'd be adjusted down in the next update, I'd also say that rank down tickets are warranted.
Why?
Kabam can't possibly know exactly why any given individual ranked up a champ. Maybe you run suicides all the time and only rank champs that are suicide friendly. All they can say is you ranked up a champ based on your own experience with the game, whether it's playing yourself or watching videos. Rank up decisions are made on those experiences. Changing the way champions function, even to fix bugs, can have a negative impact on the player.
To be clear, I've got 4 paths left in Abyss. Outside of that, I've cleared all content in the game. If I got Rank Down Tickets, I likely wouldn't use them (except possibly for inventory control), so that's not why I'm making a case for them.
I'm making a case because I enjoy this game. When the community gets upset, I'm generally right there with them. I still don't have an Archangel as a 5*, but I was frustrated for all the people who did when they fixed his bug years ago without any compensation. People are still mad about that. I feel Kabam made a big step in the right direction with how they handled She-Hulk. Some people were upset, but no one was really out anything because of how they handled things. They took it a step further with the Namor/Cull rank down tickets. Again, champs were adjusted downward, Rank Down Tickets were given out. This is how it should be.
If one needs to make some arbitrary scale about how much a champ has changed each time something like this happens to figure out if RDT's are warranted, you're going to flood the forums each time. However, if you have a blanket policy that each downward adjustment walks hand-in-hand with RDT's, it not only keeps the players happy, but it also gives Kabam more incentive to keep a finger on the pulse of the community so bugs like this don't fester for too long. I'm sure they don't LIKE doing the work involved with sorting out Rank Down Tickets, but to be fair, they always stem from their own mistakes.
I'm not arguing for RDT's for this case. I'm arguing for the policy so we don't have to have this discussion during the inevitable "next time".
I'm not disagreeing. It's a bug that should be fixed. All I'm saying is that the bug existed for so long that there are some out there that ranked up these champs without knowing this interaction was bugged. These people will have the rug pulled out from under them and it's not fair to them to give them no recourse for their decision since they made their decision based on the information available to them in the game.
Trying to understand how is this a bug in the first place lol
I'm setting aside the whole "benefited them" nonsense here as it is irrelevant. Bugs that make the content more difficult get fixed to the same degree as bugs that make the content easier for some players.
So how much health would you expect MS to heal if she lands an attack for zero damage?
Far easier to change the text, than change the code.
They ignore Gulk/bane, Kamala, flow, thing sp3, parry; indeed on the latter, they just changed the text.
The only reason they want to "fix" this, is because it benefits the player base, 1,000s of whom have already used it.