I'd still like to know how not being able to heal in the last 10% any less usable? CapIW can't heal period and he's one of the best counters there is.
I can’t tell if this is a serious question or not but I’ll answer anyway. Of course being able to regen is helpful because it means you can take more blocked damage without dying with from his insane attack. Especially on the no retreat node where it can be quite difficult not to dash back twice and also not take a ton of damage. I’m not saying what they did was right or wrong but I fully explored this quest less than a week ago with MS and I know especially on no retreat I would’ve had to use a lot more units to do so if she wasn’t able to heal.
Totally serious question.
And there was your totally serious answer
So its helpful but not required? Gotcha.
What's with the bombardment of toxic and hostile comments? These people are simply upset at this change but that doesn't give you the right to spit on them for that. You've derailed this thread so just stop with further comments
This was obviously a bug. Their abilities clearly stated healing based on damage dealt. You deal 0 damage then you regain 0 health. If you ranked these champions up because you knew of an exploit, then I don't really see why you should be given compensation for it. They posted it was under investigation too as was shown in the screenshots someone posted above. A bug is a bug, and even beneficial ones can have unexpected negative consequences.
There are more important bugs that hurt the game needing to be fixed than this. It’s not a bug every one can exploit in a few minutes. It’s just upsetting that bugs that are not major get fixed right away but bugs that need too be fixed ASAP, kabam take their time on.
And if this comment gets removed, it just shows they wanna hide the truth.
Bugs that favor players get fixed immediately. Bugs that screw over players have low priority. Unfortunate it has to be like this
The bug was here for more than 6 months. I'll hardly call that immediate.
The only thing I said is it was common sense not to ask them to fix something that benefits us. I never said it didn’t need fixing. It does need fixing. I just did not see the need for a player to ask for this fix. If we can’t agree on that then that’s the second reason not to have a conversation with you.
Any player who claims to want as bug free of a game as possible reports all of them. Anything else is hypocritical.
A long standing pet peeve of mine is the game documentation both in and out of the game is horrible. The game should work the way it is described and vice versa. I can't simultaneously advocate for the devs to clean up documentation and descriptions and also support the notion that if players like a bug they should hide its existence for as long as possible.
So I'm afraid I'm one of those players that would have reported this bug had I been directly aware of it. I've seen Morningstar in Champion fights, but this is simply not something that occurred to me to take notice of.
And I get that. I don’t agree with it but I get it. I personally wouldn’t do it. Especially if I already beat the fight. And certainly wouldn’t use “ASAP” in the title. Would that make me a hypocrite? Maybe yes. But I’m happy to be one if that means other players have an easier time on that fight.
There are more important bugs that hurt the game needing to be fixed than this. It’s not a bug every one can exploit in a few minutes. It’s just upsetting that bugs that are not major get fixed right away but bugs that need too be fixed ASAP, kabam take their time on.
And if this comment gets removed, it just shows they wanna hide the truth.
Bugs that favor players get fixed immediately. Bugs that screw over players have low priority. Unfortunate it has to be like this
The bug was here for more than 6 months. I'll hardly call that immediate.
There are more important bugs that hurt the game needing to be fixed than this. It’s not a bug every one can exploit in a few minutes. It’s just upsetting that bugs that are not major get fixed right away but bugs that need too be fixed ASAP, kabam take their time on.
And if this comment gets removed, it just shows they wanna hide the truth.
Bugs that favor players get fixed immediately. Bugs that screw over players have low priority. Unfortunate it has to be like this
The bug was here for more than 6 months. I'll hardly call that immediate.
Wasn't meaning to be literal but it's certainly what it feels like most of the time.
The problem here is that 6.2 content was already hated. The community was against the gates, the content is just not the same quality as the rest of act 6, The champion boss was bugged in the beginning causing the player base to be disgruntled. Soo many negatives with 6.2 and that's why this bug fix is distasteful. But it isn't wrong, their description clearly makes it a bug. If the bug was only specific to the champion boss, I'd vote for them to keep the bug in game but it isnt so it shouldn't remain.
I'd still like to know how not being able to heal in the last 10% any less usable? CapIW can't heal period and he's one of the best counters there is.
I can’t tell if this is a serious question or not but I’ll answer anyway. Of course being able to regen is helpful because it means you can take more blocked damage without dying with from his insane attack. Especially on the no retreat node where it can be quite difficult not to dash back twice and also not take a ton of damage. I’m not saying what they did was right or wrong but I fully explored this quest less than a week ago with MS and I know especially on no retreat I would’ve had to use a lot more units to do so if she wasn’t able to heal.
Totally serious question.
And there was your totally serious answer
So its helpful but not required? Gotcha.
What's with the bombardment of toxic and hostile comments? These people are simply upset at this change but that doesn't give you the right to spit on them for that. You've derailed this thread so just stop with further comments
Thats the whole point. This thread has no business being open still. Its a bug that needs to be fixed. Period.
The only thing I said is it was common sense not to ask them to fix something that benefits us. I never said it didn’t need fixing. It does need fixing. I just did not see the need for a player to ask for this fix. If we can’t agree on that then that’s the second reason not to have a conversation with you.
Any player who claims to want as bug free of a game as possible reports all of them. Anything else is hypocritical.
A long standing pet peeve of mine is the game documentation both in and out of the game is horrible. The game should work the way it is described and vice versa. I can't simultaneously advocate for the devs to clean up documentation and descriptions and also support the notion that if players like a bug they should hide its existence for as long as possible.
So I'm afraid I'm one of those players that would have reported this bug had I been directly aware of it. I've seen Morningstar in Champion fights, but this is simply not something that occurred to me to take notice of.
And I get that. I don’t agree with it but I get it. I personally wouldn’t do it. Especially if I already beat the fight. And certainly wouldn’t use “ASAP” in the title. Would that make me a hypocrite? Maybe yes. But I’m happy to be one if that means other players have an easier time on that fight.
Then don't be upset if they don't fix other bugs you want them to. You cant ask them to do that if you cant ask them to fix pro player bugs.
Their abilities already told what they could do, in how many and how its work ,it not like they took their regen .You could still regen in 90% of his HP tho...People always mad when they lose their advantage that not suppose to work in the game
There are more important bugs that hurt the game needing to be fixed than this. It’s not a bug every one can exploit in a few minutes. It’s just upsetting that bugs that are not major get fixed right away but bugs that need too be fixed ASAP, kabam take their time on.
And if this comment gets removed, it just shows they wanna hide the truth.
Bugs that favor players get fixed immediately. Bugs that screw over players have low priority. Unfortunate it has to be like this
Except this has been bugged since 6.2 came out the better part of a year ago in MS's case. Basically complaining about a situation that proves your statement incorrect
@Onmix you post a ton about bugs. I'd say that makes you a pretty big hypocrite. You want all that stuff looked into and expect them to act on it but cant imagine reporting a pro player bug. Hope your posts continue to be ignored.
You’ve responded to me 4 times. Three of those have hostile comments. I hope you can find a way to have a conversation without them. I’d be happy to have this conversation then.
I intended to disagree with the OP but I kind of agree. Morningstar wasn't bugged, they just didn't foresee her interaction with the Champion. But if lots of players got to use this they ought to just leave it
It states in their abilities that they heal based on damage dealt. It's clearly a bug since champion is indestructible in his final phase. Same goes for rogue, guilly, and omega if they were to life steal in this fight.
Was it just the final phase? That's just evade for a little bit...
Bwcv and Morningstar can no longer regen vs the champion??!!??!! Why is it that something that has worked in the game for the longest all of a sudden changed and called a bug?? This is the same thing as she hulk all over again. I finally pull a good champ to fight the champion boss and they get nerfed right after ranking bwcv to r2 6*. It isn’t right and something needs to be done to fix it. Ppl have been using these champs for ages to beat him. Now no one else can? How is this right?? Thoughts anyone?
Um Black Widow CV clearly states that she heals based off damage delt and she was healing without damaging him that is in fact a bug
For all the people who defend this bug fix how about we finally get back drafts fixed after like two years? Getting specials when hitting the block? The AI getting frame advantage now? Any fixes for the players now?
Yeah that is nothing new and I agree that they take more action towards beneficial bugs but calling this a Nerf is overselling it
For all the people who defend this bug fix how about we finally get back drafts fixed after like two years? Getting specials when hitting the block? The AI getting frame advantage now? Any fixes for the players now?
Yeah that is nothing new and I agree that they take more action towards beneficial bugs but calling this a Nerf is overselling it
That me how you see it but... A lot of ppl said the shehulk “fix” wasn’t a nerf also. But it clearly was. Something that tons of players are benefiting from since the content dropped and now all of a sudden is a problem. This should’ve been fixed from the get. Not let half the community benefit from it then all of a sudden decide it’s a problem that must be fixed.
For all the people who defend this bug fix how about we finally get back drafts fixed after like two years? Getting specials when hitting the block? The AI getting frame advantage now? Any fixes for the players now?
Yeah that is nothing new and I agree that they take more action towards beneficial bugs but calling this a Nerf is overselling it
That me how you see it but... A lot of ppl said the shehulk “fix” wasn’t a nerf also. But it clearly was. Something that tons of players are benefiting from since the content dropped and now all of a sudden is a problem. This should’ve been fixed from the get. Not let half the community benefit from it then all of a sudden decide it’s a problem that must be fixed.
The She Hulk debate is completely different from this though
For all the people who defend this bug fix how about we finally get back drafts fixed after like two years? Getting specials when hitting the block? The AI getting frame advantage now? Any fixes for the players now?
Yeah that is nothing new and I agree that they take more action towards beneficial bugs but calling this a Nerf is overselling it
That me how you see it but... A lot of ppl said the shehulk “fix” wasn’t a nerf also. But it clearly was. Something that tons of players are benefiting from since the content dropped and now all of a sudden is a problem. This should’ve been fixed from the get. Not let half the community benefit from it then all of a sudden decide it’s a problem that must be fixed.
The She Hulk debate is completely different from this though
How is it completely different? She hulk performed the same function since her release or more importantly since her buff. Morningstar has performed the same function since 6.2 dropped. Bwcv has performed the same function since she was released. So what’s different man? It’s not like this went on for days or weeks. This has went on since the release and has been clearly documented.
Anything that several ppl have benefited from and that has been common knowledge since either the content or the champ has been released that is now “fixed” is most definitely a nerf!!
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I personally wouldn’t do it. Especially if I already beat the fight. And certainly wouldn’t use “ASAP” in the title.
Would that make me a hypocrite? Maybe yes.
But I’m happy to be one if that means other players have an easier time on that fight.
I hope you can find a way to have a conversation without them. I’d be happy to have this conversation then.
Let’s put it this way.
If a bug is on the AI side, EVERYONE gets affected which levels the playing field.
If a bug is on a champ side, only those with the champ are affected, which results in an uneven playing field.
Which should be given priority to be fixed?