Changes to CABLE SP1 - no longer fully evade'able ??

SummonerNR

With the new changes to Cable's SP1, can you still evade it all by just a single evade, doing it a tiny bit earlier than what you would think for most other champ's projectile SP's ??

The few times I faced him since this month's change, I always seem to get “clipped” on the back end.
Is this what Kabam had intended to prevent you from doing ?

And can you do 2 separate quick evades to avoid getting hit by any of it ? (1st evade as when normally used to do, then a 2nd to hopefully bypass taking a hit at the very end of the blasts) ??

Gamer

I’m can evade the last part but always get clips if I’m try full it so yes it was a fix to him with I’m kind thing is unfair

Werewrym

Yeah it sucks cause muscle memory tells me to dodge at the beginning and then I get tagged at the end.

SwarmOfRavens

I was wondering what was wrong, been clipped trying to fully evade since the update. Looks like it's back to blocking

Bendy

I didnt notice this till running 6.3.6 shock path with vigor and his sp1 was clipping me even out of range so seems now making it hit further u got to take the blocked hits or push sp2 which gets frustrating as sometimes he will throw sp1 when ever

SummonerNR

If nobody is saying they can successfully do a double-evade (??), then might switch to how you do Punisher or couple others. Where you just block during the first part, then evade the rest about halfway thru. That way you can at least counterattack after your evade right away.

Helps against some of those long duration blasts, instead of holding block the whole time (which then sometimes defender is able to get back to blocking before you can counterattack).

Dong the evade halfway thru lets you counter quicker than if you had to wait for your full blocking of the SP to end.

Still don’t like that they changed Cable, didn’t think it was ever a bug.

CoatHang3r

Back on the old forums, around the time of Cable’s release Kabam posted that Cable’s special 1 was intentionally short to make it easier for summoners to avoid. I wonder what changed their mind.

Very few things bother me about changes Kabam makes but for some reason this one irks me.

Savage

CoatHang3r said:

Back on the old forums, around the time of Cable’s release Kabam posted that Cable’s special 1 was intentionally short to make it easier for summoners to avoid. I wonder what changed their mind.

Very few things bother me about changes Kabam makes but for some reason this one irks me.

Only one valid answer. $$$

StevieManWonder

Yeah it’s annoying, I just got good at evading it

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Looks just like they added an additional hit at the end.
Either that, or they "fixed" a hit that wasn't landing

Lvernon15

Glad I fought abyss cable before this, woth his abyss node he will be a nightmare now

Epistriatus

How is this a bug when it’s been like that for years? I’ve been able to fully evade it since he was a mini-boss in aq for the 1st time back in.....ehm 2016, 2017? And why change it now?

ms_5707983

Because otherwise you could take down Cable on a loaded node without using Wallet Man.

World Eater

Just tried vs a Cable monthy quest and couldn’t evade the last part of it. Usually I’m pretty consistent evading his L1.

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Izze_King

SummonerNR said:

With the new changes to Cable's SP1, can you still evade it all by just a single evade, doing it a tiny bit earlier than what you would think for most other champ's projectile SP's ??

The few times I faced him since this month's change, I always seem to get “clipped” on the back end.
Is this what Kabam had intended to prevent you from doing ?

And can you do 2 separate quick evades to avoid getting hit by any of it ? (1st evade as when normally used to do, then a 2nd to hopefully bypass taking a hit at the very end of the blasts) ??

Absolutely annoying. It’s hard enough to find an opening on Cable as is.

World Eater

Haven’t been able to evade his L1 special once since the last update. Do we need to post vids? Or is kabam capable or testing this themselves ???

Gamer

MikeHock said:

Haven’t been able to evade his L1 special once since the last update. Do we need to post vids? Or is kabam capable or testing this themselves ???

It not a bug mate it was a fix to him

SuperiorSymbiote

Keep getting clipped lol

World Eater

Gamer....The goal of the “fix” was to make his L1 un-evadable? I don’t think so

Pancake_Face

its cause of the abyss. They made that fight harder now smh

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SummonerNR

The former Evade you used to be able to do evidently put you at “maximum distance away” (to use the term in the Change Notes shown above), which (apparently) allowed you to not be clipped by the last hits of his gun-fire once your evade ended, even though he is still firing at you.

So the consequence now is similar to other long gun-fire, that lasts for longer than the duration of an Evade.

Which seems to be a change in desired operation versus what @CoatHang3r seems to recall (see above) when Cable was first released.

Gamer

MikeHock said:

Gamer....The goal of the “fix” was to make his L1 un-evadable? I don’t think so

Ther stil fixed how u just cul dash back ones and stay ther
To the animation was over with it not possible as @SummonerNR said ther chamge the leget of the the sp so it kind fix the last bulls of the sp1 I’m not said it fair because it hasn’t ben that for since he released

_colo

Seems rather odd that they would change that now, eh?

Until you look at Act 7 beta and see that cable now resides on a path where he contains an unblockable specials node....

Greekhit

Cables sp1 changed so it can be dexed from the majority of champs. Theres a Cable in the Abyss and at oncoming act7 there’s one with unblockable sp1. The conclusion is yours 🤣

Gamer

Greekhit said:

Cables sp1 changed so it can be dexed from the majority of champs. Theres a Cable in the Abyss and at oncoming act7 there’s one with unblockable sp1. The conclusion is yours 🤣

Rather said it now money grap

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arsjum

I am fighting Abyss Cable right now, at this moment. I kept wondering why I couldn't evade his special 1 at all. And of course, every blocked hit from his sp1 deals massive damage (fixed amount of damage per critical hit you've delivered on Cable). Ridiculous.

mvinceable

I question why this change was warranted, especially if what @CoatHang3r mentioned about the old forums is true. I wasn't aware that getting to the edge of the screen against Cable to avoid his SP1 was even a strategy, until I saw this bugfix announcement. I always thought I was dex'ing legitimately...kind of sad to find out the thousands of times fully evading Cable's SP1s in the 3 years since he was introduced, was simply a bug exploit.

It was fully evadable 3 years ago in the monthly event quest he was released (skip to 10:18 mark) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w-5rijxE_M&t=10m18s, and most recently when facing him in Variant 1.1 (skip to 29:30 mark) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHDRXWrnNZQ&t=29m30s before the update. His SP1 is simply not fully evadable anymore with the recent update.

Isn't it possible to fix the screen edge bug while still keeping Cable's SP1 fully evadable?

Izze_King

No word on this change huh. Smh.