Throne Breaker Title Discussion [Merged Threads]

Tiger360

TheTalents said:

Tiger360 said:

TheTalents said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

benshb said:

Lainua said:

RoOOts said:

Pulyaman said:

People saying BG is an example of FTP really need to get a reality check. He plays practically everyday and streams almost every day. He is not an example of an average FTP. Also, I honestly think Kabam should have made this 3 R3 and act 6 exploration. If they really did want to divide the most advanced vs just cavalier, that should have been the metric. Almost anyone can complete act 6 and T5cc can requirement is too much rng. 3 R3 means you have done Abyss and you actually have little content to do and will enable them to release ultra difficult content to suite the elites.

Agree, even giving the title out for 1000$ spent in game would be more honest. At least no RNG.

And if they asked 1000 dollars for requirements do you pay or criticize them again? You can say anything you want

benshb said:

Superc9 said:

benshb said:

1. It didn't necessarily buffed people's rosters, I'm currently like 20 / 0 on dual crystals for Doom/quake - and it still depend on RNG.

2. the problem is that the 2 requirements are 2 ends of a rope. Either have 6.4 completion, and with it have a certain number (10-15-20) of 5r5 (which fits the progression more), or if they want the 6r3, then have act 6 or 6.4 100% , they fit together more.

3. 7 stars are still faaaaar off the table, like, Avengers 5 far.

1. Stop thinking that it's just you that matters. No one cares about you or me. Just because you didn't get the champ you wanted doesn't mean it hasn't helped others. On average these changes boosted champ accessibility significantly, so Kabam has to bump difficulty.

2. What looks insurmountable now will become much easier in the future. You can't fast forward yourself to the front of the line.

3. 7s aren't far off if the community keeps demanding things. Whether we like it or not, the game is slowly marching towards them. Whining, complaining and getting dual class crystals and Cav difficulty only speeds this up.

I never said it was only me, but I'm one of the many people.
And I know I can't fast forward, and I understand that we need an other progression separator, what's more, I definitely agree with that, but putting it behind a huge luck wall, or to be forced to rank up is not the right way imo. All I'm saying, make it a number of r5s instead of r3. It still depend on the same luck/force factor, but much less, and fresh cavalier players will still get locked out of the next part of the content/perk, until they have the enough number of high ranked champions.

Having access to better perks for a player with 1 r3 and like 3 r5s because they were lucky and just completed act 6 is not fair against someone who 100% done act 6 and has 35 r5s, but werent lucky enough for a good r3 .

In My Opinion

Luck? There is no luck involved if you have 40 6*. Luck only a factor if your 6* roster is undeveloped. So as fas as I can see it, all the guys including you who are complaining have undeveloped roster and of course you are not the target they are aiming to.

And we are very fine with it.

Lol, then look around reddit and twitter, you will find many people with 100% act6 and without a reasonable r3 candidate, Mr. Entitled

Act 6 is a joke now. That's specifically why there is an additional requirement now. Plenty of people will be able to go straight from getting cav to exploring Act 6.

Ugh you have to be kidding me. This guy just thinks about himself and that’s it. Just because you spend hours a day grinding this game and are able to find act 6 easy (obvious cap, guarantee you’ve struggled with certain nodes) doesn’t mean other players will find it just as easy.

danielmath said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

You should focus on getting your second and third r5 5* before focusing on r3 6*. He had a wasp,thing, ghulk, unawakened torch, and awakened IW. He wasn't lacking choices. It doesn't take a year+ to r3 a champ.
Abyss came out 8 months ago and 6.4 not long after yet we already have people running around with 8+ r3

You really looked back on my past posts lol? I’m talking about skilled players. Just because you use your mums card to buy yourself units and plough through content doesn’t mean your good nor do you deserve a title

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

Why are you even remotely concerned with this in the first place? You barely got cavalier a month ago with a single R5 5*. You're so far outside of the target audience for this it's not even funny

Oh shut up mate, I’m talking about other players. Not everything has to be about yourself you know? I think it’s pretty obvious your little kabam club is out numbered and the vast majority of people agree that 6 star rank 3s are overkill. If you want to argue sure, keep thinking that just because you defend kabam you are going to pull a 6 star Ghost in your next Cav crystal 🤡💩

Most people are incapable of looking past their personal situation and don’t care at all about the future of the game, at least work is trying 🤷‍♂️

Exactly, kabam could make the requirement a Rank 5 6 star and they would still defend it saying something like “It WiLl Be AvAIlAbLe SoOn”

You simply can't compare yourself to Work. He's in a master AW alliance. That is the highest level of competition in this game. To tell you the difference between where you're at and master guy. I'm in p3 war which is probably higher than yours for sure and we brought in a masters level AW guy and he didn't die the entire two seasons he was with us and took every mini boss and boss on either side of the map we asked him to. That's why when you all talk about skill and how whales just throw money at the game it's completely false.

Want to show proof he didn't die a single time? Or am I just supposed to take your word for it. Everyone dies, even people like Lagacy which are really good at the game make mistakes so I call bs on that, and yeah, money usually leads to good champs my guy. Before I was kicked from my ally for Inactivity I was clearing paths itemless too with people like Ghost (Super easy, you literally can't take hits, I wouldn't even call it skill) but do you know how many players are in alliances like that? As someone said, 3% of people in the game have a rank 3 6 star, your just asking for the other 97% to be left in the dust whilst the 3% are getting buffed for free lol, its like a reward for spending or no lifing the game and thats just facts

My comment got deleted but friend me on line and I will prove it to you. There's levels to this game you simply don't understand which is why you're arguing about a skill level you're no where near close to.

You can’t expect me to add you without giving me your Line ID, also it’s a mobile game, this isn’t csgo, anyone can get good b

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

Exactly lol, just feel like this dude wants to be above everyone else for the flex and he doesn’t want humble peasants who refuse to spend on a mobile game up there with him as it hurts his ego

Tiger360

GroundedWisdom said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

You should focus on getting your second and third r5 5* before focusing on r3 6*. He had a wasp,thing, ghulk, unawakened torch, and awakened IW. He wasn't lacking choices. It doesn't take a year+ to r3 a champ.
Abyss came out 8 months ago and 6.4 not long after yet we already have people running around with 8+ r3

You really looked back on my past posts lol? I’m talking about skilled players. Just because you use your mums card to buy yourself units and plough through content doesn’t mean your good nor do you deserve a title

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

Why are you even remotely concerned with this in the first place? You barely got cavalier a month ago with a single R5 5*. You're so far outside of the target audience for this it's not even funny

Oh shut up mate, I’m talking about other players. Not everything has to be about yourself you know? I think it’s pretty obvious your little kabam club is out numbered and the vast majority of people agree that 6 star rank 3s are overkill. If you want to argue sure, keep thinking that just because you defend kabam you are going to pull a 6 star Ghost in your next Cav crystal 🤡💩

What would I need another 6* Ghost for? I already have her at R3. I am looking past my own situation. If I wasn't I'd be saying that the title should require 100% Act 6 AND Abyss along with at least 5 R3s.

There's zero point to making another title at all if someone can go straight from getting cavalier to the new one with basically the same exact roster currently. They have to segment people off somehow. Just bc a lot of people think they're at a level above cavalier absolutely does not make that a fact.

Again, how is it a bad thing if people went straight for it? Kabam said that Abyss wont be done in months but it was done in a day I believe, and there was nothing wrong there. I wouldn't mind if they made it a lot more challenging, but adding a 6 star rank 3 restriction is not about skill, its all about how lucky you get with t5cc drops and if you have the champions worth using it on no matter how much you try to argue that point.

Bc there's zero point to having two different titles if you can go straight from getting on to the next as soon as it's introduced. I truly can't believe you actually don't understand this and instead have to just be salty and making up arguments on the fly

The only reason your not arguing against this is because you fit the requirement, otherwise you’d be shedding tears of salt just like your complaints about nodes.

That's obvious. Well, not necessarily in his case because his views on ease of access have been consistent. However, it stands to reason that the only reason people are complaining are because they don't meet the requirements. People are less likely to object if they do. That will happen no matter what they set the bar at.

It’s a pretty hefty requirement lol, less than 5% of the player as can get it even if they are skilled enough

Demonzfyre

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

You should focus on getting your second and third r5 5* before focusing on r3 6*. He had a wasp,thing, ghulk, unawakened torch, and awakened IW. He wasn't lacking choices. It doesn't take a year+ to r3 a champ.
Abyss came out 8 months ago and 6.4 not long after yet we already have people running around with 8+ r3

You really looked back on my past posts lol? I’m talking about skilled players. Just because you use your mums card to buy yourself units and plough through content doesn’t mean your good nor do you deserve a title

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

Why are you even remotely concerned with this in the first place? You barely got cavalier a month ago with a single R5 5*. You're so far outside of the target audience for this it's not even funny

Oh shut up mate, I’m talking about other players. Not everything has to be about yourself you know? I think it’s pretty obvious your little kabam club is out numbered and the vast majority of people agree that 6 star rank 3s are overkill. If you want to argue sure, keep thinking that just because you defend kabam you are going to pull a 6 star Ghost in your next Cav crystal 🤡💩

What would I need another 6* Ghost for? I already have her at R3. I am looking past my own situation. If I wasn't I'd be saying that the title should require 100% Act 6 AND Abyss along with at least 5 R3s.

There's zero point to making another title at all if someone can go straight from getting cavalier to the new one with basically the same exact roster currently. They have to segment people off somehow. Just bc a lot of people think they're at a level above cavalier absolutely does not make that a fact.

Again, how is it a bad thing if people went straight for it? Kabam said that Abyss wont be done in months but it was done in a day I believe, and there was nothing wrong there. I wouldn't mind if they made it a lot more challenging, but adding a 6 star rank 3 restriction is not about skill, its all about how lucky you get with t5cc drops and if you have the champions worth using it on no matter how much you try to argue that point.

Bc there's zero point to having two different titles if you can go straight from getting on to the next as soon as it's introduced. I truly can't believe you actually don't understand this and instead have to just be salty and making up arguments on the fly

The only reason your not arguing against this is because you fit the requirement, otherwise you’d be shedding tears of salt just like your complaints about nodes.

I don't have a R3 and I am all for this title. It's not time sensitive and it's not going away. You can't be uncollected without beating the Collector and you can't be Cavalier without beating 6.1. This is another title aimed at progression with a simple restriction. It's no different than the other titles.

Plus you could say the same for yourself in this situation. You're only crying like a spoiled child because you don't have an R3. If you did, you wouldn't be here either.

Worknprogress

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

Lormif

Tiger360 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

You should focus on getting your second and third r5 5* before focusing on r3 6*. He had a wasp,thing, ghulk, unawakened torch, and awakened IW. He wasn't lacking choices. It doesn't take a year+ to r3 a champ.
Abyss came out 8 months ago and 6.4 not long after yet we already have people running around with 8+ r3

You really looked back on my past posts lol? I’m talking about skilled players. Just because you use your mums card to buy yourself units and plough through content doesn’t mean your good nor do you deserve a title

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

Why are you even remotely concerned with this in the first place? You barely got cavalier a month ago with a single R5 5*. You're so far outside of the target audience for this it's not even funny

Oh shut up mate, I’m talking about other players. Not everything has to be about yourself you know? I think it’s pretty obvious your little kabam club is out numbered and the vast majority of people agree that 6 star rank 3s are overkill. If you want to argue sure, keep thinking that just because you defend kabam you are going to pull a 6 star Ghost in your next Cav crystal 🤡💩

What would I need another 6* Ghost for? I already have her at R3. I am looking past my own situation. If I wasn't I'd be saying that the title should require 100% Act 6 AND Abyss along with at least 5 R3s.

There's zero point to making another title at all if someone can go straight from getting cavalier to the new one with basically the same exact roster currently. They have to segment people off somehow. Just bc a lot of people think they're at a level above cavalier absolutely does not make that a fact.

Again, how is it a bad thing if people went straight for it? Kabam said that Abyss wont be done in months but it was done in a day I believe, and there was nothing wrong there. I wouldn't mind if they made it a lot more challenging, but adding a 6 star rank 3 restriction is not about skill, its all about how lucky you get with t5cc drops and if you have the champions worth using it on no matter how much you try to argue that point.

Bc there's zero point to having two different titles if you can go straight from getting on to the next as soon as it's introduced. I truly can't believe you actually don't understand this and instead have to just be salty and making up arguments on the fly

The only reason your not arguing against this is because you fit the requirement, otherwise you’d be shedding tears of salt just like your complaints about nodes.

That's obvious. Well, not necessarily in his case because his views on ease of access have been consistent. However, it stands to reason that the only reason people are complaining are because they don't meet the requirements. People are less likely to object if they do. That will happen no matter what they set the bar at.

It’s a pretty hefty requirement lol, less than 5% of the player as can get it even if they are skilled enough

thats the point, how is this hard to understand. It is exclusive at the start and less exclusive over time. That is how progression titles work. If they mad it so everyone gets it off the start then it would not be a progression title.

Demonzfyre

Tiger360 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

You should focus on getting your second and third r5 5* before focusing on r3 6*. He had a wasp,thing, ghulk, unawakened torch, and awakened IW. He wasn't lacking choices. It doesn't take a year+ to r3 a champ.
Abyss came out 8 months ago and 6.4 not long after yet we already have people running around with 8+ r3

You really looked back on my past posts lol? I’m talking about skilled players. Just because you use your mums card to buy yourself units and plough through content doesn’t mean your good nor do you deserve a title

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

Why are you even remotely concerned with this in the first place? You barely got cavalier a month ago with a single R5 5*. You're so far outside of the target audience for this it's not even funny

Oh shut up mate, I’m talking about other players. Not everything has to be about yourself you know? I think it’s pretty obvious your little kabam club is out numbered and the vast majority of people agree that 6 star rank 3s are overkill. If you want to argue sure, keep thinking that just because you defend kabam you are going to pull a 6 star Ghost in your next Cav crystal 🤡💩

What would I need another 6* Ghost for? I already have her at R3. I am looking past my own situation. If I wasn't I'd be saying that the title should require 100% Act 6 AND Abyss along with at least 5 R3s.

There's zero point to making another title at all if someone can go straight from getting cavalier to the new one with basically the same exact roster currently. They have to segment people off somehow. Just bc a lot of people think they're at a level above cavalier absolutely does not make that a fact.

Again, how is it a bad thing if people went straight for it? Kabam said that Abyss wont be done in months but it was done in a day I believe, and there was nothing wrong there. I wouldn't mind if they made it a lot more challenging, but adding a 6 star rank 3 restriction is not about skill, its all about how lucky you get with t5cc drops and if you have the champions worth using it on no matter how much you try to argue that point.

Bc there's zero point to having two different titles if you can go straight from getting on to the next as soon as it's introduced. I truly can't believe you actually don't understand this and instead have to just be salty and making up arguments on the fly

The only reason your not arguing against this is because you fit the requirement, otherwise you’d be shedding tears of salt just like your complaints about nodes.

That's obvious. Well, not necessarily in his case because his views on ease of access have been consistent. However, it stands to reason that the only reason people are complaining are because they don't meet the requirements. People are less likely to object if they do. That will happen no matter what they set the bar at.

It’s a pretty hefty requirement lol, less than 5% of the player as can get it even if they are skilled enough

Can I see some hard data on that 5% number?

pseudosane

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

GroundedWisdom

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

Doesnt matter if he wants to be exclusive or not, kabam wants this title to start off exclusive.

I'm asking him, not you. I dont need your opinion on this, thanks.

GroundedWisdom said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

It's a challenge to get an R3. You need to play a significant enough amount of higher-end content to amass T5CCs.

Not much a challenge, just an ability to play, and more bites at the apple to get the champs you want.

It's a challenge because not everyone is doing that content. It's also an indicator of experience, more bites as you put it.

Worknprogress

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

You should focus on getting your second and third r5 5* before focusing on r3 6*. He had a wasp,thing, ghulk, unawakened torch, and awakened IW. He wasn't lacking choices. It doesn't take a year+ to r3 a champ.
Abyss came out 8 months ago and 6.4 not long after yet we already have people running around with 8+ r3

You really looked back on my past posts lol? I’m talking about skilled players. Just because you use your mums card to buy yourself units and plough through content doesn’t mean your good nor do you deserve a title

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

Why are you even remotely concerned with this in the first place? You barely got cavalier a month ago with a single R5 5*. You're so far outside of the target audience for this it's not even funny

Oh shut up mate, I’m talking about other players. Not everything has to be about yourself you know? I think it’s pretty obvious your little kabam club is out numbered and the vast majority of people agree that 6 star rank 3s are overkill. If you want to argue sure, keep thinking that just because you defend kabam you are going to pull a 6 star Ghost in your next Cav crystal 🤡💩

What would I need another 6* Ghost for? I already have her at R3. I am looking past my own situation. If I wasn't I'd be saying that the title should require 100% Act 6 AND Abyss along with at least 5 R3s.

There's zero point to making another title at all if someone can go straight from getting cavalier to the new one with basically the same exact roster currently. They have to segment people off somehow. Just bc a lot of people think they're at a level above cavalier absolutely does not make that a fact.

Again, how is it a bad thing if people went straight for it? Kabam said that Abyss wont be done in months but it was done in a day I believe, and there was nothing wrong there. I wouldn't mind if they made it a lot more challenging, but adding a 6 star rank 3 restriction is not about skill, its all about how lucky you get with t5cc drops and if you have the champions worth using it on no matter how much you try to argue that point.

Bc there's zero point to having two different titles if you can go straight from getting on to the next as soon as it's introduced. I truly can't believe you actually don't understand this and instead have to just be salty and making up arguments on the fly

The only reason your not arguing against this is because you fit the requirement, otherwise you’d be shedding tears of salt just like your complaints about nodes.

My complaints about nodes? You mean my one half hearted thread about counterstrike in AQ? It's obviously something I care deeply about since it's never been mentioned since and I've been running map 7 since it existed just fine

danielmath

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

Lormif

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

pseudosane

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

Lormif

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

danielmath

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

pseudosane

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

False, not against act6 nerfs. True, nerfing everything else.

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

Rather have a content gate like 100% abyss/Act6/Act7 chap1, than an RNG gate.

Worknprogress

Tiger360 said:

TheTalents said:

Tiger360 said:

TheTalents said:

Tiger360 said:

Worknprogress said:

benshb said:

Lainua said:

RoOOts said:

Pulyaman said:

People saying BG is an example of FTP really need to get a reality check. He plays practically everyday and streams almost every day. He is not an example of an average FTP. Also, I honestly think Kabam should have made this 3 R3 and act 6 exploration. If they really did want to divide the most advanced vs just cavalier, that should have been the metric. Almost anyone can complete act 6 and T5cc can requirement is too much rng. 3 R3 means you have done Abyss and you actually have little content to do and will enable them to release ultra difficult content to suite the elites.

Agree, even giving the title out for 1000$ spent in game would be more honest. At least no RNG.

And if they asked 1000 dollars for requirements do you pay or criticize them again? You can say anything you want

benshb said:

Superc9 said:

benshb said:

1. It didn't necessarily buffed people's rosters, I'm currently like 20 / 0 on dual crystals for Doom/quake - and it still depend on RNG.

2. the problem is that the 2 requirements are 2 ends of a rope. Either have 6.4 completion, and with it have a certain number (10-15-20) of 5r5 (which fits the progression more), or if they want the 6r3, then have act 6 or 6.4 100% , they fit together more.

3. 7 stars are still faaaaar off the table, like, Avengers 5 far.

1. Stop thinking that it's just you that matters. No one cares about you or me. Just because you didn't get the champ you wanted doesn't mean it hasn't helped others. On average these changes boosted champ accessibility significantly, so Kabam has to bump difficulty.

2. What looks insurmountable now will become much easier in the future. You can't fast forward yourself to the front of the line.

3. 7s aren't far off if the community keeps demanding things. Whether we like it or not, the game is slowly marching towards them. Whining, complaining and getting dual class crystals and Cav difficulty only speeds this up.

I never said it was only me, but I'm one of the many people.
And I know I can't fast forward, and I understand that we need an other progression separator, what's more, I definitely agree with that, but putting it behind a huge luck wall, or to be forced to rank up is not the right way imo. All I'm saying, make it a number of r5s instead of r3. It still depend on the same luck/force factor, but much less, and fresh cavalier players will still get locked out of the next part of the content/perk, until they have the enough number of high ranked champions.

Having access to better perks for a player with 1 r3 and like 3 r5s because they were lucky and just completed act 6 is not fair against someone who 100% done act 6 and has 35 r5s, but werent lucky enough for a good r3 .

In My Opinion

Luck? There is no luck involved if you have 40 6*. Luck only a factor if your 6* roster is undeveloped. So as fas as I can see it, all the guys including you who are complaining have undeveloped roster and of course you are not the target they are aiming to.

And we are very fine with it.

Lol, then look around reddit and twitter, you will find many people with 100% act6 and without a reasonable r3 candidate, Mr. Entitled

Act 6 is a joke now. That's specifically why there is an additional requirement now. Plenty of people will be able to go straight from getting cav to exploring Act 6.

Ugh you have to be kidding me. This guy just thinks about himself and that’s it. Just because you spend hours a day grinding this game and are able to find act 6 easy (obvious cap, guarantee you’ve struggled with certain nodes) doesn’t mean other players will find it just as easy.

danielmath said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

You should focus on getting your second and third r5 5* before focusing on r3 6*. He had a wasp,thing, ghulk, unawakened torch, and awakened IW. He wasn't lacking choices. It doesn't take a year+ to r3 a champ.
Abyss came out 8 months ago and 6.4 not long after yet we already have people running around with 8+ r3

You really looked back on my past posts lol? I’m talking about skilled players. Just because you use your mums card to buy yourself units and plough through content doesn’t mean your good nor do you deserve a title

Worknprogress said:

Tiger360 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Tiger360 said:

Panchulon21 said:

Psychic_2002 said:

This title is hard to get if you’re a f2p player.

Very incorrect. I won’t say I’m f2p but I am pretty close to it. I have a buddy who is entirely f2p.

We both will be getting it on October 1st.

Ps. By saying I’m pretty close to f2p I mean I don’t buy deals for class frags or champion crystals. I usually just get the 4.99 735 unit deal, that’s the best deal they offer. Sometimes also get the sigil. I grind pretty frequently for my units. So a f2p can easily achieve this.

Again, one of the most advanced F2P players, BG, just go this first 6 star rank 3, and he grinds for hours and hours a day lol

The man literally had an awakened IW and the t5cc for over a month.
He had options and choose to save it. He could have had a r3 a while ago don't understand why people think he's a special case. This is the same guy that took a break and actively avoiding ranking 6* until recently

Dude, he started a week account and grinded for like 15 hours a day. If you don't think he's a special case, you either do just that or you are just being mind controlled by Kabam through their Rig Ray. And a month is not that long to hold off on T5CC if you are telling some players to be "patient" and wait for a year + until they can get their first R3 lol

Why are you even remotely concerned with this in the first place? You barely got cavalier a month ago with a single R5 5*. You're so far outside of the target audience for this it's not even funny

Oh shut up mate, I’m talking about other players. Not everything has to be about yourself you know? I think it’s pretty obvious your little kabam club is out numbered and the vast majority of people agree that 6 star rank 3s are overkill. If you want to argue sure, keep thinking that just because you defend kabam you are going to pull a 6 star Ghost in your next Cav crystal 🤡💩

Most people are incapable of looking past their personal situation and don’t care at all about the future of the game, at least work is trying 🤷‍♂️

Exactly, kabam could make the requirement a Rank 5 6 star and they would still defend it saying something like “It WiLl Be AvAIlAbLe SoOn”

You simply can't compare yourself to Work. He's in a master AW alliance. That is the highest level of competition in this game. To tell you the difference between where you're at and master guy. I'm in p3 war which is probably higher than yours for sure and we brought in a masters level AW guy and he didn't die the entire two seasons he was with us and took every mini boss and boss on either side of the map we asked him to. That's why when you all talk about skill and how whales just throw money at the game it's completely false.

Want to show proof he didn't die a single time? Or am I just supposed to take your word for it. Everyone dies, even people like Lagacy which are really good at the game make mistakes so I call bs on that, and yeah, money usually leads to good champs my guy. Before I was kicked from my ally for Inactivity I was clearing paths itemless too with people like Ghost (Super easy, you literally can't take hits, I wouldn't even call it skill) but do you know how many players are in alliances like that? As someone said, 3% of people in the game have a rank 3 6 star, your just asking for the other 97% to be left in the dust whilst the 3% are getting buffed for free lol, its like a reward for spending or no lifing the game and thats just facts

My comment got deleted but friend me on line and I will prove it to you. There's levels to this game you simply don't understand which is why you're arguing about a skill level you're no where near close to.

You can’t expect me to add you without giving me your Line ID, also it’s a mobile game, this isn’t csgo, anyone can get good b

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

Exactly lol, just feel like this dude wants to be above everyone else for the flex and he doesn’t want humble peasants who refuse to spend on a mobile game up there with him as it hurts his ego

You think I'm concerned that if you got a pointless title that you'd "catch up" to me? Oh man, now that is rich.

Literally the only thing I care about with an additional title is the opportunity for additional content.

danielmath

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

False, not against act6 nerfs. True, nerfing everything else.

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

Rather have a content gate like 100% abyss/Act6/Act7 chap1, than an RNG gate.

He said 6.2 is his favorite content.....

Worknprogress

You have a single R5. You could get the title and I could take at least 6 months but probably close a year without playing the game and you still wouldn't be close to "catching up"

CoatHang3r

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

False, not against act6 nerfs. True, nerfing everything else.

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

Rather have a content gate like 100% abyss/Act6/Act7 chap1, than an RNG gate.

100% abyss is the same difference, if you’re there you’ll meet the requirement at the end of it. The difference here is that one r3 gives players multiple avenues towards achieving it, giving them options and choices; including burning the first t5cc you get. 100% anything is too restrictive.

pseudosane

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

False, not against act6 nerfs. True, nerfing everything else.

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

Rather have a content gate like 100% abyss/Act6/Act7 chap1, than an RNG gate.

He said 6.2 is his favorite content.....

Was mine as well, your point being?

pseudosane

CoatHang3r said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

False, not against act6 nerfs. True, nerfing everything else.

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

Rather have a content gate like 100% abyss/Act6/Act7 chap1, than an RNG gate.

100% abyss is the same difference, if you’re there you’ll meet the requirement at the end of it. The difference here is that one r3 gives players multiple avenues towards achieving it, giving them options and choices; including burning the first t5cc you get. 100% anything is too restrictive.

Their point was to gate on roster progression, wasnt it? What better way to measure roster progression than sheer content? Why tie RNG to it? I can show you accounts with **** rosters but having an r3, and those with more content done and not good enough to having a good champ for an r3. How is that satisfying Kabam's goal?

Lormif

pseudosane said:

CoatHang3r said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

False, not against act6 nerfs. True, nerfing everything else.

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

Rather have a content gate like 100% abyss/Act6/Act7 chap1, than an RNG gate.

100% abyss is the same difference, if you’re there you’ll meet the requirement at the end of it. The difference here is that one r3 gives players multiple avenues towards achieving it, giving them options and choices; including burning the first t5cc you get. 100% anything is too restrictive.

Their point was to gate on roster progression, wasnt it? What better way to measure roster progression than sheer content? Why tie RNG to it? I can show you accounts with **** rosters but having an r3, and those with more content done and not good enough to having a good champ for an r3. How is that satisfying Kabam's goal?

both have RNG to it, because RNG is a big part in this game.

the purpose of a progression title is to show you should be capable of taking on a certain level of content with your roster. The 2 ways to do this is to prove you can beat content similar, cav title, or to show you have a roster that should be capable of doing that content.

Both are legit

As for content there is no longer a good way to do this. The title should not be put behing a payment requirement for that level, this is why abyss is bad because you cannot 100% clear without paying with any team of r3s And book 2 is bad, because it is no longer challenging. That leaves a roster check only.

CoatHang3r

pseudosane said:

CoatHang3r said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

False, not against act6 nerfs. True, nerfing everything else.

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

Rather have a content gate like 100% abyss/Act6/Act7 chap1, than an RNG gate.

100% abyss is the same difference, if you’re there you’ll meet the requirement at the end of it. The difference here is that one r3 gives players multiple avenues towards achieving it, giving them options and choices; including burning the first t5cc you get. 100% anything is too restrictive.

Their point was to gate on roster progression, wasnt it? What better way to measure roster progression than sheer content? Why tie RNG to it? I can show you accounts with **** rosters but having an r3, and those with more content done and not good enough to having a good champ for an r3. How is that satisfying Kabam's goal?

Having an r3 isnt rng, you either have one or you do not.

A “good” champ is subjective, if the title is your goal any champ can be a “good” champ.

Their goal is to a separate players who are working with r3 champions with people working towards r3 champs.

pseudosane

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

CoatHang3r said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

False, not against act6 nerfs. True, nerfing everything else.

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

Rather have a content gate like 100% abyss/Act6/Act7 chap1, than an RNG gate.

100% abyss is the same difference, if you’re there you’ll meet the requirement at the end of it. The difference here is that one r3 gives players multiple avenues towards achieving it, giving them options and choices; including burning the first t5cc you get. 100% anything is too restrictive.

Their point was to gate on roster progression, wasnt it? What better way to measure roster progression than sheer content? Why tie RNG to it? I can show you accounts with **** rosters but having an r3, and those with more content done and not good enough to having a good champ for an r3. How is that satisfying Kabam's goal?

both have RNG to it, because RNG is a big part in this game.

the purpose of a progression title is to show you should be capable of taking on a certain level of content with your roster. The 2 ways to do this is to prove you can beat content similar, cav title, or to show you have a roster that should be capable of doing that content.

Both are legit

As for content there is no longer a good way to do this. The title should not be put behing a payment requirement for that level, this is why abyss is bad because you cannot 100% clear without paying with any team of r3s And book 2 is bad, because it is no longer challenging. That leaves a roster check only.

RNG is part to getting the "perfect" counters, this game is about strategy as well. Artifically forcing RNG to play a major role in progression, even after RNG governs which champs you get (which in itself governs your ability to do content) is a lazy and non intuitive way to do things.

Lormif

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

CoatHang3r said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

BG is against the act 6 nerfs and the overall nerfing of everything in the game so he's not a good example

False, not against act6 nerfs. True, nerfing everything else.

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Lormif said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

ampaign progression titles help segment players so that we can appropriately target content and rewards to different levels of progression and roster maturity

And my only qualm is segment them by content and not RNG.

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

Worknprogress said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

danielmath said:

pseudosane said:

@danielmath let me call you out here. I saw your post saying act6 is no longer challenging.
I 100ed abyss yesterday, in 12k units. Now I will look at act6 exploration. I have completed exploration of 6.2 pre nerf, have 6.3 and 6.4 left.
Inflated attack values is NOT fun. You may find it fun, and can sit on your pompous horse right up there, or post gameplay here of your "iinsane" quake play. For all I see is a salty person who spent items to complete act6 for prestige purposes, now dismayed that others who waited may have it a little easier. I could care less of your opinion that it isnt challenging. I do not find such inflated values fun, so I did not bother. I honestly still don't, but will start exploring now just because I have nothing else to do. Definitions of "fun" vary for everyone, and if dying in 3 hits is your idea of fun, more power to you. But don't expect your opinion to be a reflection of everyone else's in this game.

They're not done nerfing it, wait till they finish. They're still taking out all the hard fights in December, wait till then. Obviously my opinion doesn't reflect everyone else, nobody's opinion reflects everyone else. I'm not salty that it's easier, i'm sad that 7.1 is not going to be challenging at all and that hasn't even come out.

Challenge yourself and use 5*r4 then, or do it with psylocke and beast. Even you could do it with them being a horseman.

Snide comments aside, Story isnt really meant to be the "toughest" content in game. We have periodic events that fulfill that purpose, content that doesnt need to be finished to progress. The reason they are nerfing Act6 is that folks could care less to 100% it. Now people will fight through, a business decision. Like how they dangle scraps of t5cc to you folks and you all buy it for 50$ for a "good value". A "business decision".
Specific content wont still be easy, and if you wanted a challenge you could do Omega rush without your quake. The "pain" event will give your blood a rush, for your "challenge". If you wish to have challenge from present content, do it with subpar challenge to fulfill your appetite.

What events do we have? Summer of pain was the only one that was supposed to be a challenge and it doesn't exist. The issue isn't necessarily me specifically, i like the game too much to retire and my alliance would be too heartbroken so I couldn't do that to them lol.

Here's the issue with your idea (and i've read this plenty) to use lower champs: What incentive do people have to try to push for r3's if they're useless? I currently have 8 of them. Ghost, wasp, corvus, elsa, king groot, sunspot, g2099, nick fury. Only 2 of them are actually relevant for my gameplay, corvus for AW, king groot for AQ. If you took away the other 6, nothing would change for me except prestige, they are useless because none of the solo content needs r3's at all.

r3's are pretty much for prestige. How can you connect r3s to challenge? You want a challenge, you want r3s, and you want others not to complain. Pick what you want.
Maze was one such piece of content. the 4* challenge comes to mind, i used weird options and beat the content itemless. I used a bunch of 4* in the omega challenge to challenge myself to do it itemless ( i failed, had to use potions).
all your r3s are useful, how can you ask someone to take up garbage like psylocke and yondu when not one of your champs is useless. Your position ( and WnP's) is completely different from the 99.9% of the player base, so do not make assumptions as to what we should rank, since you folks can afford to drop money to get what you want (nothing wrong with that).
But your position looks like a spoilt child that seems to want everything, while asking others to make big concessions, while you look at others through the end of your nose, which is not an attractive attitude. Kind of reminds me of this annoying 4Loki dude by the name Dreamin (which would be hilarious if you were him).

Well 99.9% of the playerbases position would matter if this title was supposed to cover 99.9% of the playerbase. It isn't, so it doesn't.

So it boils your blood that you aren't exclusive enough already?

No it boils my blood that this game is being turned into a snooze fest for any competitive players. If segmenting the playerbase again gets us some content that isn't boring. I'm all for it.

This will keep you disappointed. This is a title that segments rewards, not content. You are fighting the wrong battle then.

we tried to fight the content battle and lost, badly, it just is what it is at this point

But hey, you can boast to have completed it "pre nerf" which is what you like, dont you. Even your teammate, BG, disliked the notion of r3s to gate this content.

the problem is this is not the fight you want to make. They dont want to do 6.4 as the target and the abyss is terrible for it because you cannot do it itemless, you have to spend units. So it is either take it back to book 2, or having r3s

Rather have a content gate like 100% abyss/Act6/Act7 chap1, than an RNG gate.

100% abyss is the same difference, if you’re there you’ll meet the requirement at the end of it. The difference here is that one r3 gives players multiple avenues towards achieving it, giving them options and choices; including burning the first t5cc you get. 100% anything is too restrictive.

Their point was to gate on roster progression, wasnt it? What better way to measure roster progression than sheer content? Why tie RNG to it? I can show you accounts with **** rosters but having an r3, and those with more content done and not good enough to having a good champ for an r3. How is that satisfying Kabam's goal?

both have RNG to it, because RNG is a big part in this game.

the purpose of a progression title is to show you should be capable of taking on a certain level of content with your roster. The 2 ways to do this is to prove you can beat content similar, cav title, or to show you have a roster that should be capable of doing that content.

Both are legit

As for content there is no longer a good way to do this. The title should not be put behing a payment requirement for that level, this is why abyss is bad because you cannot 100% clear without paying with any team of r3s And book 2 is bad, because it is no longer challenging. That leaves a roster check only.

RNG is part to getting the "perfect" counters, this game is about strategy as well. Artifically forcing RNG to play a major role in progression, even after RNG governs which champs you get (which in itself governs your ability to do content) is a lazy and non intuitive way to do things.

You hit it right there, and immediately lost it. You either can do the content or not. Roster dept and size is a perfectly legit way to detemine it. There wil always be those who can get lucky, or spend, to it, that does not diminish it.

StevieManWonder

benshb said:

Wonder how many fresh cavs has 25-30 5r5

I didn’t even have 1 r5 or even an awakened r4 when I got Cavalier.

H3t3r

StevieManWonder said:

benshb said:

Wonder how many fresh cavs has 25-30 5r5

I didn’t even have 1 r5 or even an awakened r4 when I got Cavalier.

I didnt get my first r5 until after i took down pre nerf 6.2 champion as I wasn't set on who I wanted as my first r5.