Act 6 Nerfs are not live with the new update [Merged Thread]

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Moosetiptronic

kabam has no credibility

@Kabam Miike , @Kabam Porthos , @Kabam Zibiit et al...

I'm paraphrasing the above as this is true. So many people were looking at acts 6.1, 6.2, 6.3 and 6.4, particularly those who only have minimum cavalier done and thinking the rest of act 6 is not worth it.

That's a core reason why so many (except for the elites on here) were looking forward to the stated move to reduce the attack values.

Can we have feedback or formal comment on why the original statement from the dev diary has been reversed?

It does dent your credibility as an organisation who stated they needed to improve communication and take on board feedback, that you're reversing on this line without any explanation at all.

hefy2000

Personally, I think act 6 is fine the way it is now and doesn’t need further nerfs. The two biggest roadblocks to completion (sinister and mordo) have been addressed, and the attack value reductions in 6.3 and 6.4 have made exploration a much more attainable goal.

However, Kabam should really clarify what is going on with 6.1 and 6.2. I don’t even expect or want them to implement the 6.1 and 6.2 attack nerfs (because I find them unnecessary), but a comment for the sake of transparency would be great.

The_Sentry06

Personally, I think act 6 is fine the way it is now and doesn’t need further nerfs. The two biggest roadblocks to completion (sinister and mordo) have been addressed, and the attack value reductions in 6.3 and 6.4 have made exploration a much more attainable goal.

However, Kabam should really clarify what is going on with 6.1 and 6.2. I don’t even expect or want them to implement the 6.1 and 6.2 attack nerfs (because I find them unnecessary), but a comment for the sake of transparency would be great.

6.2.5 nerf was poorly done and is still nonsensical

X_Scott

6.2.5 should have been toned down more. Most annoying quest in the game, imo.

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It’s the discrepancy between the initial announcement (and it lining up with July 4 sales) followed by an extended delay and quiet inaction...

You can believe the nerf is unnecessary and be a reasonable person, but once it’s announced, especially as part of the roadmap, clear and direct communication should happen before these things are abandoned.

You're implying they hyped things up just to make sales and you're wondering why it hasn't gotten a response?

hefy2000

It’s the discrepancy between the initial announcement (and it lining up with July 4 sales) followed by an extended delay and quiet inaction...

You can believe the nerf is unnecessary and be a reasonable person, but once it’s announced, especially as part of the roadmap, clear and direct communication should happen before these things are abandoned.

This. Communication from kabam is all I am looking for, especially when they made a commitment to do better in that regard. Even though I don’t think nerfs are necessary, I still want to hear back from kabam about these two chapters.

You're implying they hyped things up just to make sales and you're wondering why it hasn't gotten a response?

Here’s the first paragraph of the dev diary announcement:

And here’s the last.

In conclusion, yes, I do expect a response.

You're implying they hyped things up just to make sales and you're wondering why it hasn't gotten a response?
Here’s the first paragraph of the dev diary announcement:

And here’s the last.

In conclusion, yes, I do expect a response.

You mean they made a decision when they executed it, and they didn't tell you?

Jrtiger23

If Kabam wants to ignore the feedbacks, why listen to Seatin?
If OP wants some explanations from Kabam and still got nothing back, maybe b/c he ain't Seatin?

you tell me?

They made a decision to announce it, a decision to backtrack on their announcement and a decision to subtly announce the backtrack and hope people wouldn’t notice or care.

If Kabam wants to ignore the feedbacks, why listen to Seatin?
If OP wants some explanations from Kabam and still got nothing back, maybe b/c he ain't Seatin?

you tell me?

You think the entire situation was all because of Seatin? No. Not at all.

They made a decision to announce it, a decision to backtrack on their announcement and a decision to subtly announce the backtrack and hope people wouldn’t notice or care.

They gave roundabout values before they did the work. This was a ballpark ahead of schedule to let people know what they had in mind. Expectations like this actually hurt the process of communication and transparency.

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Unfortunately, when you post on the Forum, it's for everyone to comment on. Not just a place to call Kabam out for answers.

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If Kabam wants to ignore the feedbacks, why listen to Seatin?
If OP wants some explanations from Kabam and still got nothing back, maybe b/c he ain't Seatin?

you tell me?
You think the entire situation was all because of Seatin? No. Not at all.
They made a decision to announce it, a decision to backtrack on their announcement and a decision to subtly announce the backtrack and hope people wouldn’t notice or care.
They gave roundabout values before they did the work. This was a ballpark ahead of schedule to let people know what they had in mind. Expectations like this actually hurt the process of communication and transparency.

They chose the headline. The headline was “REDUCING ATTACK VALUES ACROSS THE ENTIRE ACT.”

They wrote the text. They wrote “Path fights in 6.3, 6.2 and 6.1 will be scaled down...” The decision was ostensibly made.

If they hadn’t made up their mind, they could’ve said 6.3 and 6.4 would be done, and 1 and 2 were under consideration. They didn’t.

Forget what I said.
Understand what THEY said.
Consider the setting in which it was said.
Keep waiting for a response.
You eventually give up.
Other players come along.
Users just get cheated as time passes.

.....before they even sat down to do it. You do know things change, right? This is the problem right here. People cry out for change and transparency. So they decide to look at some areas, and tell people before they work on it because they want information. Meanwhile, if there's the slightest difference when it comes to implementation, someone is here calling them out on it. It was looked at and changed where they saw fit. Do you honestly believe it's more important to nerf it unnecessarily because they said what they were thinking of, just because it was in a Post? No. What's best for the design comes first. What does it matter? You think it's going to make a difference if someone from Kabam comes on and says, "Upon further inspection, we decided it wasn't necessary.". Is that going to end the discussion? I'm really trying to be respectful here, but it's coming off like you're just trying to call them out on a discrepancy.

Yes, productive and positive forum interactions are what you’re famous for. Your refusal to even acknowledge the plain meaning of the words Kabam published shows that you’re clearly here for good faith discourse.

AwesomoChaos

Agree with OP. Kabam clearly promised toning down 6.1 and 6.2 but now act like what they said never happened. This is not a good look but sadly par for the course.