An alternative to rank-down tickets
SMiller80
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I came to this idea because of two things. First, I understand why we can just have rank-down tickets every time content changes. On the other hand, I also understand the frustration of ranking up champs for defense, and have those champs basically useless.
How about this as an alternative - rank up stones based on class and star of champ.
For instance, I ranked up a 4* NC to r4 purely for defense. I know some like him on offense (and I acknowledge that he has some value there), but personally, I don't care for him. But if I were to rank him down to r3, I could get a rank-up stone which is 4* mutant R3 to R4. I know some of the concern is that we would just take what we used for 4*s back when they had greater value and use them on 5*s. It's not healthy for the game to do that a lot, but Kabam has proven that they can give stones which are class specific and rank specific. So why not do it here?
You could give one or two for 5*s, 3 or 4 for 4*s, and let people use them as they want. Ranked up a 4* Juggs? Well, you could rank him down and use that stone on a 4* Magik. 5* Antman? Now you have something for that 5* Hulk.
I don't know. I've been trying to see this from both sides, as I've been really disappointed in AW. I used to love it. Now, not so much. This would maybe help alleviate some of the disappointment. This may have been suggested elsewhere, but I haven't seen it.
How about this as an alternative - rank up stones based on class and star of champ.
For instance, I ranked up a 4* NC to r4 purely for defense. I know some like him on offense (and I acknowledge that he has some value there), but personally, I don't care for him. But if I were to rank him down to r3, I could get a rank-up stone which is 4* mutant R3 to R4. I know some of the concern is that we would just take what we used for 4*s back when they had greater value and use them on 5*s. It's not healthy for the game to do that a lot, but Kabam has proven that they can give stones which are class specific and rank specific. So why not do it here?
You could give one or two for 5*s, 3 or 4 for 4*s, and let people use them as they want. Ranked up a 4* Juggs? Well, you could rank him down and use that stone on a 4* Magik. 5* Antman? Now you have something for that 5* Hulk.
I don't know. I've been trying to see this from both sides, as I've been really disappointed in AW. I used to love it. Now, not so much. This would maybe help alleviate some of the disappointment. This may have been suggested elsewhere, but I haven't seen it.
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You down-rank your 5/50 BP CW just to rank Gwenpool. That is a rank down ticket that you used to correct a bad choise that you did. It has nothing to do with AW
You are against rank down tickets. I get it. But making general statements to try to shut down positive conversation isn't helpful.
It doesn't make sense for them to be back. Even if it made sense, it's impossible to know what champs were specifically ranked specially for defense
With RDT's you lose ranked champs of choice, and bring up new ones to replace those. Bit of balance there.
With rank up stones, you keep currently ranked champs and get to rank up even more champs for free. Not much balancing there. Would also give players opportunities to rank champs up who never even had any ranked to start with
If they give me a rank down ticket, I'm going to rank down 4*s and use those resources on 5*s. That's the smart thing. This wouldn't allow for that.
In addition, this would keep those who ranked up a 5* to r4 from using those t2as on anything outside of their class.
Star specific is irrelevant. Rank down tickets were star specific.....same thing still
Yes, rank down tickets were star specific, but not the resources they gave you.
RDTs are better option, bcz there ur just reusing the resources u've grinded for, no freebie. Now as much as I'm opposed to the idea of RDTs being a regular item in the game, I believe when they're changing the meta of the game all on a sudden they should issue those.
& AW V2.0 is a change in the meta of the game.
agreed
But I'm not talking about free rank ups. Just reusing the resources you've previously earned.
You're right, and I can see the "moderate" differences between the two. Essentially, still just another argument for RDT's
The flaw with your argument is we used the most resources for the rank ups on champs being argued. So you would think higher rated players would be the ones favoring it the most. On account we could also abuse them the most for "prestige wars"
I agree with that. Hence the "alternative". I understand both sides of the argument. I think they should be rare items, and while 12.0 required them a lot, I think 15.0 deserves some consideration. Not full rank downs, but something.
To pretend that the AW changes haven't affected the game is nonsense. Everyone knows it. What remains is a solution that works for everyone. Not that it needs to make everyone happy. That won't happen. But something that acknowledges what's been done.
I appreciate your level-headedness but you're in the bargaining stage. Kabam isn't completely stupid. They know they changed the meta and they knew they were going to force us into this diversity ****. I think one of their primary goals was to effectively nerf mystic defenders through this diversity system.
They still aren't giving us any sort of compensation for that. Do I like it? Not really. But I am willing to accept it and move on. Mordo is at least good for prestige and Magik is still a great utility champ. I can adapt.
what don't make sense is that every time someone talk about RDT's they get attack like its something wrong with having an opinion. You guys that don't want it fine but stop trying to insult or try to intimidate people from asking what they believe would help this game.
EDIT: Sorry, seen same avatar as the OP w/o checking the name 1st
No point in creating a thread if you assume the whole community is gonna be in favor of it. Simply arguing against RDT's, like any other thread
Cant really argue that. But an actual alternative to rank down tickets (not RDTs with a minor change) would be asking for a means of earning more resources at an easier or faster pace.
It is a contest..
I'm in a 9.4 million alliance (not sure why that matters, but figured you brought it up), and this is the first time I've asked since 12.0.
I get what is being said about all the different threads, too. I get tired of the constant complaining as well. Check my posts. They are generally positive and constructive. I like this game, and play it far too much. But Kabam had stated many times their goal of interacting with the community more. So I thought maybe an alternative, with discussion, might prove worthwhile.
So, suggest something else. I like my idea, but who doesn't like their own idea? Give other thoughts, instead of just trying to get this shut down.
As for this idea being too similar to rdts, maybe it is. But Kabam doesn't seem to know the difference between "new" and "same". "Getting tired of Iron Man? We have a new champ for you! Iron Patriot! Getting tired of Iron Patriot..." Well, you get the idea. Low blow, I know. Just don't want hot heads to prevail. I was hoping for constructive conversation here. Not complaints.