Mods are commenting on other threads and still defending everything they’ve done around TB. I love that they claim this title was meant to be a higher bar but ignore that they’ve intentionally used the lower bar to try and milk as much money as they can from people wanting to make it. The whole rollout of this title and restricting access was a way for Kabam to dump resources on the whales while they can to appease them. This is exploitation to a T and they are barely trying to hide it. Please save your money and rate this app to make them listen. They bet on this blowing over and I’m hoping they’re wrong.
Ya the cav deals are terrible. I just went cav today and tbh the uncollected deals were better for rank ups. Seriously no options included T5B which EVERY player at cav level needs and would buy. Saved me a lot of money tho [eyeroll]
I agree just complaining probably isn't enough. We need people actually making a stand with their hard earned money. I have loved this game since the year of its release, I have pumped thousands in over the years but my wallet is now closed. The only way we can show them we are serious is solidarity, we are all in this together. Put your wallets down and when Kabam are ready to treat us like we actually mean something to their game, then pick your wallets back up. We all love the game and the sad thing is we are willing to spend but we have been the subject of in game class based discrimination. Of course our offers weren't going to be as good as TB but the fact is some of the uncollected offers looked better than our Cav ones Kabam, hardly an incentive for Uncollected to push for Cav now is it? Wallets down people!
The pictures uploaded out of order but you guys get the jist, I don't understand why I'm getting so disrespected. Almost 5 years here. As you can see, that's just two rolls better luck.
I think that Kabam probably didn't want to give such good deals in July but had to try to appease the top level players who are all bundled into the cav group at the time.
So the problem here is that they released TB too late so the cav group was too wide and now they haven't managed the transition well enough.
I think they will see this as the cav group will have massively underspent compared to July. Hopefully that's a wake up call.
I agree with most of you on this, the deals have done very little to help me progress which is disappointing when the other groups did get boosts.
Then you have a bunch of people hitting TB much faster than they should and it's the whole cycle all over again.
Lol. I can become Cavalier today, run through Abyss and Act 6 and jump to Thronbreaker in literally 24 hours. All I need would be Aegon, Doom at 5/65 and certain champions at R4 for some bosses of act 6. 5-6k units would guarantee all those initial clears and with RNG, I can R3 any useless champion and hit TB title.
There is no 'cycle' for hitting Thronebreaker. There is just 1 thing involved, RNG. Someone playing this game for 5 years is way behind someone who like me playing for 2 years and having 8 Rank 3s just because my luck was way better than their initial clear of Act 6 and Abyss
Yes. There's a cycle. Kabam sets a bar, people pile through it, and there starts a need for another bar. Uncollected, Cavalier, and now Thronebreaker. Only, with Thronebreaker, they had to create another bar that would separate progress and space it out because the direction of content has changed. Progress is not only measured by what content you've done. It's also measured by how far along your Account is. The cycle I'm talking about is the number of people getting past the hurdle increasing too fast and making it too hard to keep up with, and accommodate everyone. We spent years with people lumped in to Uncollected/Cavalier, and ranged anywhere in between. The fact that people can have the "right Champs", watch the right YouTube tutorials, and jump past content with ease, without putting time and effort into developing their Accounts, is reason enough alone to have something else serve as a spacer. Now people are kicking and screaming because they might actually have to wait and work towards it.
I’m sure they’ll throw some T5cc fragments in 7.1 completion and exploration. All us high end Cav players can just use the units we’ve saved burning through that. Maybe the plan all along was to help us save the units to experience this new content even if we aren’t quite ready.
Dont get me wrong im fuming and stopping spending, but thats my choice. If people want to spend and praise Kabam that's their choice, don't insult them. We are entitled to disagree with each other but if people are getting hurtful then we are hurting the fan base too.
Then you have a bunch of people hitting TB much faster than they should and it's the whole cycle all over again.
Lol. I can become Cavalier today, run through Abyss and Act 6 and jump to Thronbreaker in literally 24 hours. All I need would be Aegon, Doom at 5/65 and certain champions at R4 for some bosses of act 6. 5-6k units would guarantee all those initial clears and with RNG, I can R3 any useless champion and hit TB title.
There is no 'cycle' for hitting Thronebreaker. There is just 1 thing involved, RNG. Someone playing this game for 5 years is way behind someone who like me playing for 2 years and having 8 Rank 3s just because my luck was way better than their initial clear of Act 6 and Abyss
Yes. There's a cycle. Kabam sets a bar, people pile through it, and there starts a need for another bar. Uncollected, Cavalier, and now Thronebreaker. Only, with Thronebreaker, they had to create another bar that would separate progress and space it out because the direction of content has changed. Progress is not only measured by what content you've done. It's also measured by how far along your Account is. The cycle I'm talking about is the number of people getting past the hurdle increasing too fast and making it too hard to keep up with, and accommodate everyone. We spent years with people lumped in to Uncollected/Cavalier, and ranged anywhere in between. The fact that people can have the "right Champs", watch the right YouTube tutorials, and jump past content with ease, without putting time and effort into developing their Accounts, is reason enough alone to have something else serve as a spacer. Now people are kicking and screaming because they might actually have to wait and work towards it.
Except accounts like mine. Staring at Thronebreaker accounts that bought everything but I'm further in progress have a more developed roster. I can tell you right now if you don't spend, but 100 all the variants, cav eg (including 4* challenge), personal problems slowed my exploration of act 6 only 100 upto and including 6.2. With my rng 50% of every class is where you are at. I'm at 7 r2 6* right now and my choice at this moment to get that title if I get skill is unduped kp or classic dd. I would in a heart beat r3 my r2 punisher 2099, but would prefer my guillotine 2099, maybe my glaive or rhulk who i would do over my void as rhulk is duped, even my domino but no classic dd has to be it. These offers are what to accounts like mine. I have r5 gems sitting in stash right now that I have no interest to use but hey for an oden I can add more to it.
Tbf I wouldn't be as salty of this stupid decision on kabam part would be that random 10% to be a selector or that r5 gem was the cats instead. The unit deals do what to help anyone get tb.
They screwed a vast population of the game. I have never once felt a pay wall skill could get you there maybe not as fast as coin but still did and I could use any champ to do so. Rng should never be tied to any progress as the only way to eliminate it is coin. They only get my money on cyber weekend but now they get 0 and in fact I'm on the cusp of leaving game. Just my personal experience but I'm not alone.
Here’s a question no one should ever have to ask: how many cavalier summoners would rather re-buy July 4 offers than this weekend’s offers?
That was in my mind when I wrote my comment. For sure I regret to not have bought all the 4th July offers. And if they were proposed today, I would buy them.
I somewhat regret not blowing all 5k units I had at the time on Aegon cavalier crystals last month. Might have got nothing, might have finally got the Aegon I’ve been hunting for the past year.
I’m really upset! I just realized that there were different offer for the thronebraker respect cavaliers. I already bought the offers and looking at the difference is crazy! I already complete act 6 and abyss months ago and I have several 6 stars, but no one to rank 3 because of the mismatch between my cata class 5 and my rooster, and it depends on lucky! And so I cannot have the same offer of a thronebraker because I didn’t have the luck to find a champion to rank 3! And this will bring to have a wider difference on player based on lucky and not on the game! I’m really disappointed, this difference it is insane! I would really have a feedback Kabam on how you would manage it. I think that it will bring to go out definitely by the game! I hope there will be a compensation for that! Or let me know how I can ask to be refund! I didn’t play at Las Vegas, I’m playing a game that SHOULD NOT BE A GAMBLE! Thank you for a real feedback!
I’ve been playing this game since the start. Been leading an alliance for half of it. Took almost 12 months off last year and this year I’ve been struggling to invest due to real life circumstances.
I’ve been keeping up playing the minimum. Just map 6 and war. Did a pass of abyss and had a rank 3 so prestige was ok.
This weekend has destroyed that. Cav deals offered absolutely nothing of value - and nothing that I even needed or wanted.
By comparison throne breaker was the only group where RNG for the first time was dialled back and people got to choose much of what they wanted.
T5cc galore and you could choose the class. So many god tier 6*s for next to nothing.
One of alliance mates went from 1 6r3 to 7 for crying out loud. And I progressed exactly zero all just because I hadn’t quite finished a pass of act 6.
I get difference and level and tiers. But cavalier and throne breaker aren’t even comparable.
The cav deals have nothing myself and many other cav players need or want. And the little bit there is all 100% RNG.
Throne breaker is broken (and I want it lol). Choose the class of whatever you want - t5cc no problem, 6* hero’s sure.
I feel so bad now just watching most of alliance draw so far away from me in one weekend I just have no chance of staying with them or catching them.
Competition aside I didn’t even get one new champ I could have some fun with - I got nothing but a bitter resentful taste in my mouth that will stay with me every time I play any of the daily alliance events.
Thanks Kabam - I love this game but I feel like I’m being told to leave just as I had one year of heavy real life commitments.
So frustrated hearing @Kabam Miike keep repeating stuff we have heard 100 times before like “we will learn for the future”. How many times do the player base need to be treated like ****, for you guys to learn anything. Was really looking forward to this weekend, saving units for months and now this ****.
Maybe I should just play candy crush instead of this clown-fiesta of a game.
So frustrated hearing @Kabam Miike keep repeating stuff we have heard 100 times before like “we will learn for the future”. How many times do the player base need to be treated like ****, for you guys to learn anything. Was really looking forward to this weekend, saving units for months and now this ****.
Maybe I should just play candy crush instead of this clown-fiesta of a game.
Agreed its hindered us as players massively as we fall miles behind the elites despite not being too far off the title but relying on RNG to help us.
I ended up ranking my darkhawk to r3, used deals and cash offer for sig Stones. Fun fact from the featured i got cable and also warlock and guilly99. After ranking up darkhawk as best tech, its pretty sadistic pull. Its a form of art. Annyhow this what i did. Sacrefised my first R3, but got 2 god tier 6* in return.
What's crazy is I bet plenty of throne breakers didn't even have to beat act 6 pre-nerf (I beat the champion pre-nerf) yet they get those offers. I think whats so frustrating is i was planning on spending $300 on deals to get that last 20% of the cc i need and then picking up 2 throne breaker Odins but not only can I not do that but I also have to watch throne breakers get exactly what I need with just one Odin...brutal and nonsense!
I saved up units and Itune cards for this **** show they offered for Cavalier players. I have 27 six star champs why in the world would you offer t4 basics and 5 star shards to anyone on end game content. I’ll just use my Itunes Card on Call of Duty this time. Such a dissappu
I am irritated with myself for buying anything from cyber weekend. I should not have supported how poorly Cavalier players were treated. It would be nice if someone at that company took a minute to look at the July 4th deals and realized we should improve or at least match these. Guess that's not how thing work.
I have a feeling the TB whales bailed them out and Kabam will do nothing. On top of they already CYA’d themselves with the blue line leading up to Cyber Weekend on how they will not change anything. If only the TB’s didn’t spend in solidarity with us we would have had a chance to force some real change. Let’s face it peeps, we Cav players have been left in the dust by Kabam and the TB’s.
These deals are final nail in the coffin of F2P players who keep grinding units just to buy something to push their content but they get all the ****
I’m “Breaker of Thrones” and F2P from 5 years. Kept grinding units to push my prestige up to catch with my fellow teammates and hoped for getting some t5cc selectors so that i can take some of my 6* up but I don’t think these unit deals help a tiny bit. Brian Grant was right “it’s a slap on face of F2P players”
Further next month Act6 compensation coming and I know that too gonna disappoint us.
Cash Deals are only something through which you can get guaranteed returns but at least give something to f2p players also once in a year so they can also progress by spending units
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out how to communicate. Here’s how this entire trashfire could have been avoided:
1) announce Thronebreaker and the requirements in the roadmap, with the estimated launch date.
2) explain at that time that the cavalier pool is too big. July 4 offers will be split between 5-star focus (short-term gains and early cavalier players) and 6-star offers for people likely to be TB early.
3) say that while the typical arc of offers is that they improve over time, Black Friday is likely to have a “correction” for the changes to the cavalier player pool (I.e. Thronebreaker players being separated out)
4) don’t announce fake nerfs to 6.1 and 6.2 so players will go ahead and explore for that t5cc 25%.
These deals are final nail in the coffin of F2P players who keep grinding units just to buy something to push their content but they get all the ****
I’m “Breaker of Thrones” and F2P from 5 years. Kept grinding units to push my prestige up to catch with my fellow teammates and hoped for getting some t5cc selectors so that i can take some of my 6* up but I don’t think these unit deals help a tiny bit. Brian Grant was right “it’s a slap on face of F2P players”
Further next month Act6 compensation coming and I know that too gonna disappoint us.
Cash Deals are only something through which you can get guaranteed returns but at least give something to f2p players also once in a year so they can also progress by spending units
This I actually completely agree with. F2p players both on the Cav and TB side got royally boned with the unit caches. They were so bad I originally thought they had made a mistake when I saw them honestly.
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What the **** does any of this throne breaker/cavalier mean!
The second picture us almost all R2
The third after maybe 20, 10% cc crystals that all rolled relatively evenly
I just don't know what your doing, by the way, I have 152, 5 stars and all the r5s that I want...
So the problem here is that they released TB too late so the cav group was too wide and now they haven't managed the transition well enough.
I think they will see this as the cav group will have massively underspent compared to July. Hopefully that's a wake up call.
I agree with most of you on this, the deals have done very little to help me progress which is disappointing when the other groups did get boosts.
Maybe the plan all along was to help us save the units to experience this new content even if we aren’t quite ready.
Tbf I wouldn't be as salty of this stupid decision on kabam part would be that random 10% to be a selector or that r5 gem was the cats instead. The unit deals do what to help anyone get tb.
They screwed a vast population of the game. I have never once felt a pay wall skill could get you there maybe not as fast as coin but still did and I could use any champ to do so. Rng should never be tied to any progress as the only way to eliminate it is coin. They only get my money on cyber weekend but now they get 0 and in fact I'm on the cusp of leaving game. Just my personal experience but I'm not alone.
For sure I regret to not have bought all the 4th July offers. And if they were proposed today, I would buy them.
I already bought the offers and looking at the difference is crazy!
I already complete act 6 and abyss months ago and I have several 6 stars, but no one to rank 3 because of the mismatch between my cata class 5 and my rooster, and it depends on lucky! And so I cannot have the same offer of a thronebraker because I didn’t have the luck to find a champion to rank 3! And this will bring to have a wider difference on player based on lucky and not on the game!
I’m really disappointed, this difference it is insane! I would really have a feedback Kabam on how you would manage it. I think that it will bring to go out definitely by the game!
I hope there will be a compensation for that! Or let me know how I can ask to be refund! I didn’t play at Las Vegas, I’m playing a game that SHOULD NOT BE A GAMBLE!
Thank you for a real feedback!
I’ve been keeping up playing the minimum. Just map 6 and war. Did a pass of abyss and had a rank 3 so prestige was ok.
This weekend has destroyed that. Cav deals offered absolutely nothing of value - and nothing that I even needed or wanted.
By comparison throne breaker was the only group where RNG for the first time was dialled back and people got to choose much of what they wanted.
T5cc galore and you could choose the class. So many god tier 6*s for next to nothing.
One of alliance mates went from 1 6r3 to 7 for crying out loud. And I progressed exactly zero all just because I hadn’t quite finished a pass of act 6.
I get difference and level and tiers. But cavalier and throne breaker aren’t even comparable.
The cav deals have nothing myself and many other cav players need or want. And the little bit there is all 100% RNG.
Throne breaker is broken (and I want it lol). Choose the class of whatever you want - t5cc no problem, 6* hero’s sure.
I feel so bad now just watching most of alliance draw so far away from me in one weekend I just have no chance of staying with them or catching them.
Competition aside I didn’t even get one new champ I could have some fun with - I got nothing but a bitter resentful taste in my mouth that will stay with me every time I play any of the daily alliance events.
Thanks Kabam - I love this game but I feel like I’m being told to leave just as I had one year of heavy real life commitments.
Maybe I should just play candy crush instead of this clown-fiesta of a game.
I’m “Breaker of Thrones” and F2P from 5 years. Kept grinding units to push my prestige up to catch with my fellow teammates and hoped for getting some t5cc selectors so that i can take some of my 6* up but I don’t think these unit deals help a tiny bit.
Brian Grant was right “it’s a slap on face of F2P players”
Further next month Act6 compensation coming and I know that too gonna disappoint us.
Cash Deals are only something through which you can get guaranteed returns but at least give something to f2p players also once in a year so they can also progress by spending units
1) announce Thronebreaker and the requirements in the roadmap, with the estimated launch date.
2) explain at that time that the cavalier pool is too big. July 4 offers will be split between 5-star focus (short-term gains and early cavalier players) and 6-star offers for people likely to be TB early.
3) say that while the typical arc of offers is that they improve over time, Black Friday is likely to have a “correction” for the changes to the cavalier player pool (I.e. Thronebreaker players being separated out)
4) don’t announce fake nerfs to 6.1 and 6.2 so players will go ahead and explore for that t5cc 25%.