Gamora Spotlight

Viper18

https://playcontestofchampions.com/champion-spotlight-gamora/

No_oneuk

forgive my ignorance but - what's actually changed? everything I read here I thought she already had?

DawsMan

she can counter miss, over time her buffs last longer, you want to bring her into long fights and shell ramp the damage up. Would've liked to see her buffs last even longer, really stressful to keep them up and not sure 60% will do the trick. Basically easier ramp up, can counter miss above ten buffs.

TheHoodedDormammu

No_oneuk said:

forgive my ignorance but - what's actually changed? everything I read here I thought she already had?

I think they added a miss counter, slightly tuned up her chances of getting furies and cruelties, and incorporated her sig ability into her kit. Overall, pretty disappointed with the buff. Its still hard to keep her buffs up and they only slightly increased her damage. Also seems like they nerfed the true strike buff duration on sp3 by 2 seconds???

DrZola

Small tweaks. Was hoping for a stealth Groot boost tucked into the synergies, but no such luck.

Dr. Zola

Ken1378

Looks like another weak tune-up. Nothing much here to make people use her more.

Voltolos

TheHoodedDormammu said:

No_oneuk said:

forgive my ignorance but - what's actually changed? everything I read here I thought she already had?

I think they added a miss counter, slightly tuned up her chances of getting furies and cruelties, and incorporated her sig ability into her kit. Overall, pretty disappointed with the buff. Its still hard to keep her buffs up and they only slightly increased her damage. Also seems like they nerfed the true strike buff duration on sp3 by 2 seconds???

The buff refresh and duration increase now works for all her buffs, including her sp3 true strike which means you can have it active the whole fight now

ŁŤÇ

Man, this was a letdown.... massive.

I was hoping more of Angela level. Instead, we get Nova level.

BitterSteel

I thought the point of 2 buffs a month was to allow for more in depth and to avoid “less desirable buffs” and have “better quality buffs”. Gamora needed a moderate update, not just a tune up IMO.

Ahh well. Gamora remains rank 1.

The_Sentry06

Why is miss counter at 10+ buffs also? What if I need it from the get go or at will? Keeping up the buffs isn't any easy business.

She doesn't have much utility and the only utility she does have is locked behind impracticality.

Diplodocus

They said 2 buffs in the month will bring quality in the buffs...... And he we are!!!

Raichu626

BitterSteel said:

I thought the point of 2 buffs a month was to allow for more in depth and to avoid “less desirable buffs” and have “better quality buffs”. Gamora needed a moderate update, not just a tune up IMO.

Ahh well. Gamora remains rank 1.

The true strike refresh and miss counter sound pretty good to me. Faster buff duration increase (40 instead of 60 seconds), not sig reliant anymore. Certainly much more than Ronin/Nova got.

Dernick

big disappointed, completely unnecessary buff

IKON

Leaving the buff duration at 9 seconds kills it for me, too stressful to keep the buffs up.

Hammerbro_64

It’s a tune up and she isn’t a waste of a pull now, so I would say mission accomplished for what they set out to do.

Sure if she could be better that would be cool but the above statement stands regardless of my desires.

BigPoppaCBONE

ŁŤÇ said:

Man, this was a letdown.... massive.

I was hoping more of Angela level. Instead, we get Nova level.

Nova wishes his "buff" was this good and it ain't that good.
If you liked and used her already, you'll like and use her more. Hopefully there's something that they neglected to mention like a Stat bump to help her Parry heavy game or no cap on her buffs.

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TrashyPanda

Quicker duration ramp-up, and a fairly pointless miss-counter.

Pretty meh. Not Nova-level, but certainly feels like a throwaway safety buff.

IMO she needed another way to refresh buffs, like a Wasp-esque heavy. That and some reliable utility. Or at least unblockable specials, given how easy they are to dex.

She's still a mediocre, unreliable beatstick -- even if her peak damage is the best in the game. Or one of the best. I can't remember.

TheHoodedDormammu

TrashyPanda said:

Quicker duration ramp-up, and a fairly pointless miss-counter.

Pretty meh. Not Nova-level, but certainly feels like a throwaway safety buff.

IMO she needed another way to refresh buffs, like a Wasp-esque heavy. That and some reliable utility. Or at least unblockable specials, given how easy they are to dex.

She's still a mediocre, unreliable beatstick -- even if her peak damage is the best in the game. Or one of the best. I can't remember.

honestly, if she could combo into heavy like doom and wasp, that would be sooo much better

ŁŤÇ

TrashyPanda said:

Quicker duration ramp-up, and a fairly pointless miss-counter.

Pretty meh. Not Nova-level, but certainly feels like a throwaway safety buff.

IMO she needed another way to refresh buffs, like a Wasp-esque heavy. That and some reliable utility. Or at least unblockable specials, given how easy they are to dex.

She's still a mediocre, unreliable beatstick -- even if her peak damage is the best in the game. Or one of the best. I can't remember.

I love the Wasp-esque heavy idea. That would've made this concept different.

BitterSteel

Raichu626 said:

BitterSteel said:

I thought the point of 2 buffs a month was to allow for more in depth and to avoid “less desirable buffs” and have “better quality buffs”. Gamora needed a moderate update, not just a tune up IMO.

Ahh well. Gamora remains rank 1.

The true strike refresh and miss counter sound pretty good to me. Faster buff duration increase (40 instead of 60 seconds), not sig reliant anymore. Certainly much more than Ronin/Nova got.

Heavy attacking every 9 seconds or losing every single piece of utility and all your damage is a one track ticket to the bench for me.

altavista

So the wording of "If Gamora has 10 or more personal Buffs active, her attacks cannot Miss" means she also counters evade? In her mechanics description it mentions her countering Miss, auto-block and evade, so it certainly seems to be the case.

I am confused because the Vigilance buff allows attacks to bypass Miss, which is the similar wording, but defender's can still evade. For example, Silver Surfer doesn't counter evade normally; Cosmics in Cavalier EQ counter falter but not evade (that Ultron classic was pretty annoying).

Is this an example of Kabam describing the mechanics poorly or am I completely off base? Is the main difference the word 'cannot' and 'bypass' Miss?

Typhoon

The heavy attack to refresh personal debuffs is nice. This means you can stack a ton.

BigPoppaCBONE

None of her buff is a strong enough reason to bring her off the bench, rank her up and throw sigs on her. Maybe if at 40 buffs something nuts happened...

TheHoodedDormammu said:

TrashyPanda said:

Quicker duration ramp-up, and a fairly pointless miss-counter.

Pretty meh. Not Nova-level, but certainly feels like a throwaway safety buff.

IMO she needed another way to refresh buffs, like a Wasp-esque heavy. That and some reliable utility. Or at least unblockable specials, given how easy they are to dex.

She's still a mediocre, unreliable beatstick -- even if her peak damage is the best in the game. Or one of the best. I can't remember.

honestly, if she could combo into heavy like doom and wasp, that would be sooo much better

If that was the case, they probably would have made her buffs weaker and put a cap on them. That would have looked cooler and made her usability much higher even if they did. Especially if they swapped her generic heavy with a better one.

slacker

So will count all change:
- Increase the chance to get fury and cruelty
- Her increase duration ramp up will be ramp up faster
- 10 buffs + will counter miss
- Heavy now refresh all her buffs, yes that also mean her true strike can refresh
- Godslayer Strike add into her base kit instead of sig ability with 65% chance and 100s CD
- Her sig now will increase her chance ro active Godslayer Strike and reduce CD
- Her armor break has slightly decrease potency but last longer so it might practical to stack them
- Her true strike reduce from 11s to 9s but you can refresh it anyway so not even a deal
- Also her synergy get change as well like Gamora, instead of cruelty only, it became all her buffs and atk decrease.
If i miss anything, pls correct me.

BitterSteel

altavista said:

So the wording of "If Gamora has 10 or more personal Buffs active, her attacks cannot Miss" means she also counters evade? In her mechanics description it mentions her countering Miss, auto-block and evade, so it certainly seems to be the case.

I am confused because the Vigilance buff allows attacks to bypass Miss, which is the similar wording, but defender's can still evade. For example, Silver Surfer doesn't counter evade normally; Cosmics in Cavalier EQ counter falter but not evade (that Ultron classic was pretty annoying).

Is this an example of Kabam describing the mechanics poorly or am I completely off base? Is the main difference the word 'cannot' and 'bypass' Miss?

She has a true strike on her sp3 which you can refresh and use to counter evade and autoblock. Pretty useless if you ask me, nobody is getting to sp3 to counter two things that so many champs can counter easier

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slacker

BitterSteel said:

Raichu626 said:

BitterSteel said:

I thought the point of 2 buffs a month was to allow for more in depth and to avoid “less desirable buffs” and have “better quality buffs”. Gamora needed a moderate update, not just a tune up IMO.

Ahh well. Gamora remains rank 1.

The true strike refresh and miss counter sound pretty good to me. Faster buff duration increase (40 instead of 60 seconds), not sig reliant anymore. Certainly much more than Ronin/Nova got.

Heavy attacking every 9 seconds or losing every single piece of utility and all your damage is a one track ticket to the bench for me.

She also get increase her buffs duration over time so it's not so 9s/heavy, imo the max duration should be her default

BitterSteel

slacker said:

BitterSteel said:

Raichu626 said:

BitterSteel said:

I thought the point of 2 buffs a month was to allow for more in depth and to avoid “less desirable buffs” and have “better quality buffs”. Gamora needed a moderate update, not just a tune up IMO.

Ahh well. Gamora remains rank 1.

The true strike refresh and miss counter sound pretty good to me. Faster buff duration increase (40 instead of 60 seconds), not sig reliant anymore. Certainly much more than Ronin/Nova got.

Heavy attacking every 9 seconds or losing every single piece of utility and all your damage is a one track ticket to the bench for me.

She also get increase her buffs duration over time so it's not so 9s/heavy, imo the max duration should be her default

14.4 seconds is not much of an improvement…

Raichu626

slacker said:

BitterSteel said:

Raichu626 said:

BitterSteel said:

I thought the point of 2 buffs a month was to allow for more in depth and to avoid “less desirable buffs” and have “better quality buffs”. Gamora needed a moderate update, not just a tune up IMO.

Ahh well. Gamora remains rank 1.

The true strike refresh and miss counter sound pretty good to me. Faster buff duration increase (40 instead of 60 seconds), not sig reliant anymore. Certainly much more than Ronin/Nova got.

Heavy attacking every 9 seconds or losing every single piece of utility and all your damage is a one track ticket to the bench for me.

She also get increase her buffs duration over time so it's not so 9s/heavy, imo the max duration should be her default

And gains 20% more duration with g99. Imo, if Guilly's buff is great, g99, gamora and guilly might form a nice trinity. "The deadliest women in the galaxy"

altavista

BitterSteel said:

She has a true strike on her sp3 which you can refresh and use to counter evade and autoblock. Pretty useless if you ask me, nobody is getting to sp3 to counter two things that so many champs can counter easier

Ah, thanks, that make sense.
So the 10 buff thing is for countering things like Falter, and SP3 True strike is for countering evade and auto-block.
Seems to be even less useful than I thought.