Journey to ThroneBreaker Challenge

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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Jon111 said:

    Congrats on the progress, now you are exactly where I am in story, although I've been playing for 8 months. I have yet to start 6.4 because I don't have any coldsnap immune for Iceman. Anything I should be wary of in the chapter? Do I need some boss counters?

    For iceman one good tip I have is if you have Nick Fury as a 5 or 6*, bring him with one of Iron Man classic, IMIW, Civil Warrior or Punisher 2099. They all have a synergy with nick that the first time a team mate is inflicted with a coldsnap in a fight they go debuff immune. It means you can take iceman with literally any champion.

    As for specific boss counters, if you throw a screenshot of your roster I can give advice on best options for each boss if you'd like :) and as for which path to go, I'll let you know when I've done 6.4 and figured out the best paths lol
  • Scarcity27Scarcity27 Member Posts: 1,906 ★★★★★

    Congrats, @BitterSteel your 3 month old alt has officially surpassed my main

    I really need to get that damned CAIW taken care of.

    This made me laugh ngl.

    If I'm honest, just grind out some revives and plough through it. If my run has proved anything it's that preparation with items can cover a whole host of issues you may have with counters. Grab a high crit rate champ/crit damage champ and go at him, the health pool isn't that high.

    What options do you have?
    I had a few revives and about 280 units when I got to the boss fight yesterday. Team is Doom, Angela, Torch, AA, and Spider Ham.
    I'm using only Spam for the boss. Got him to about 50% before I ran out of everything. I can get the taunt on and get him to throw specials, but the crit only damage node is making it difficult to chip away at him without getting clipped.
    Gifted myself 5 revives from an alt, going to try again once my phone gets charged.
  • Dash855Dash855 Member Posts: 239
    Wow. I’ve been playing for about two years and I’m only on 6.2.6 right now. This is really impressive. That 6* colossus though… really jealous
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Congrats, @BitterSteel your 3 month old alt has officially surpassed my main

    I really need to get that damned CAIW taken care of.

    This made me laugh ngl.

    If I'm honest, just grind out some revives and plough through it. If my run has proved anything it's that preparation with items can cover a whole host of issues you may have with counters. Grab a high crit rate champ/crit damage champ and go at him, the health pool isn't that high.

    What options do you have?
    I had a few revives and about 280 units when I got to the boss fight yesterday. Team is Doom, Angela, Torch, AA, and Spider Ham.
    I'm using only Spam for the boss. Got him to about 50% before I ran out of everything. I can get the taunt on and get him to throw specials, but the crit only damage node is making it difficult to chip away at him without getting clipped.
    Gifted myself 5 revives from an alt, going to try again once my phone gets charged.
    Yeah honestly my advice for this guy is brute force, the crit node with glancing makes it such a hard time to get damage off that you're unlikely to solo even with taunt champs unless you have She Hulk with her huge damage, or Sparky with his great crit rate.

    I mean take someone like CGR with massive crits
    https://youtu.be/gbVoXb6_93k
    Here's an example I found, fully boosted and suicides R3 obviously, but a rank 5 could easily take off 50% in one go with some crit RNG (which is still mitigated by his great crit chance). For this fight, IMO brute force > counter
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Dash855 said:

    Wow. I’ve been playing for about two years and I’m only on 6.2.6 right now. This is really impressive. That 6* colossus though… really jealous

    I don't even have a duped Colossus on my main account lol, and I pulled him out of a handful of crystals twice!

    Thank you for the kind words, I'm really enjoying this challenge!
  • Scarcity27Scarcity27 Member Posts: 1,906 ★★★★★

    Congrats, @BitterSteel your 3 month old alt has officially surpassed my main

    I really need to get that damned CAIW taken care of.

    This made me laugh ngl.

    If I'm honest, just grind out some revives and plough through it. If my run has proved anything it's that preparation with items can cover a whole host of issues you may have with counters. Grab a high crit rate champ/crit damage champ and go at him, the health pool isn't that high.

    What options do you have?
    I had a few revives and about 280 units when I got to the boss fight yesterday. Team is Doom, Angela, Torch, AA, and Spider Ham.
    I'm using only Spam for the boss. Got him to about 50% before I ran out of everything. I can get the taunt on and get him to throw specials, but the crit only damage node is making it difficult to chip away at him without getting clipped.
    Gifted myself 5 revives from an alt, going to try again once my phone gets charged.
    Yeah honestly my advice for this guy is brute force, the crit node with glancing makes it such a hard time to get damage off that you're unlikely to solo even with taunt champs unless you have She Hulk with her huge damage, or Sparky with his great crit rate.

    I mean take someone like CGR with massive crits
    https://youtu.be/gbVoXb6_93k
    Here's an example I found, fully boosted and suicides R3 obviously, but a rank 5 could easily take off 50% in one go with some crit RNG (which is still mitigated by his great crit chance). For this fight, IMO brute force > counter
    I took an r4 Starky in for my first go. I could not for the life of me get the taunt to do anything useful, so I switched to Spam. I have an r4 CGR as well, but I'm really stuck between starting over or just getting through.
  • Jon111Jon111 Member Posts: 5

    For iceman one good tip I have is if you have Nick Fury as a 5 or 6*, bring him with one of Iron Man classic, IMIW, Civil Warrior or Punisher 2099. They all have a synergy with nick that the first time a team mate is inflicted with a coldsnap in a fight they go debuff immune. It means you can take iceman with literally any champion.

    As for specific boss counters, if you throw a screenshot of your roster I can give advice on best options for each boss if you'd like :) and as for which path to go, I'll let you know when I've done 6.4 and figured out the best paths lol

    Whoa you are very kind! I posted my roster just yesterday in a post about this topic: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/292219/act-6-4-team-building-for-completion#latest
    If you have some spare time take a look, thank you!
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Jon111 said:

    For iceman one good tip I have is if you have Nick Fury as a 5 or 6*, bring him with one of Iron Man classic, IMIW, Civil Warrior or Punisher 2099. They all have a synergy with nick that the first time a team mate is inflicted with a coldsnap in a fight they go debuff immune. It means you can take iceman with literally any champion.

    As for specific boss counters, if you throw a screenshot of your roster I can give advice on best options for each boss if you'd like :) and as for which path to go, I'll let you know when I've done 6.4 and figured out the best paths lol

    Whoa you are very kind! I posted my roster just yesterday in a post about this topic: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/292219/act-6-4-team-building-for-completion#latest
    If you have some spare time take a look, thank you!
    Iceman - right now I can only see one option for him, King Groot would shrug off the coldsnap at the start of the fight. Unfortunately it’s going to be a long fight with him since you can’t poison iceman, and if you don’t have the regen it may cost you a few revives.

    Thor Rags - Magneto will crush him pretty easily

    Darkhawk - magneto will crush him too

    Captain marvel - any mystic champ can deal with her, she will take a percentage of her health as damage each time she gains charges. Longshot could be your best option since he does incinerate damage which is energy, so will give her even more charges

    Adaptoid - stealthy looks like your best option here, use the web foam pre fight and just use one sp2, then refresh the long duration slow and use sp3 to reload.

    Grandmaster - this fight is more about how you play than who you bring, but some options are better than others. Doom is great, with his tankiness and ability to complete all challenges. Hit monkey can deal big damage in the wounded phases. My advice here is kinda just look at YouTube videos and make sure you understand the phases


    My advice would probably be wait to get a better counter for iceman if I’m honest, it’ll be pretty costly for you to push through him. You have options for all the others though! and there are plenty of shrug/coldsnap immune or resistant champs to choose from :)

    Right now in the incursions tab you could target a few of them

    Stun Crystal - Human Torch is immune, Sasquatch is resistant

    True accuracy - Aegon can be ramped up and shrug off

    Prowess - Emma frost is immune in diamond form

    Incinerate - human torch is immune, mephisto is immune

    Energy resistance - storm X is 100% resistant

    And there are other fantastic champs in each Crystal if you miss one of those, who can definitely be useful.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,955 ★★★★★

    Congrats, @BitterSteel your 3 month old alt has officially surpassed my main

    I really need to get that damned CAIW taken care of.

    This made me laugh ngl.

    If I'm honest, just grind out some revives and plough through it. If my run has proved anything it's that preparation with items can cover a whole host of issues you may have with counters. Grab a high crit rate champ/crit damage champ and go at him, the health pool isn't that high.

    What options do you have?
    I had a few revives and about 280 units when I got to the boss fight yesterday. Team is Doom, Angela, Torch, AA, and Spider Ham.
    I'm using only Spam for the boss. Got him to about 50% before I ran out of everything. I can get the taunt on and get him to throw specials, but the crit only damage node is making it difficult to chip away at him without getting clipped.
    Gifted myself 5 revives from an alt, going to try again once my phone gets charged.
    Yeah honestly my advice for this guy is brute force, the crit node with glancing makes it such a hard time to get damage off that you're unlikely to solo even with taunt champs unless you have She Hulk with her huge damage, or Sparky with his great crit rate.

    I mean take someone like CGR with massive crits
    https://youtu.be/gbVoXb6_93k
    Here's an example I found, fully boosted and suicides R3 obviously, but a rank 5 could easily take off 50% in one go with some crit RNG (which is still mitigated by his great crit chance). For this fight, IMO brute force > counter
    Killmonger works. Takes longer but with decent play save revs due to his indestructible being able to rank the special 3
  • Will3808Will3808 Member Posts: 3,813 ★★★★★
    Nice run through of 6.3. Your luck on this account recently has been absolutely insane. It’s also crazy how many people are following this thread now. I had 25 notifications this morning all from this thread. It’s cool to see the following that it’s gathered, and I’m now thinking if I make an alt, I’ll start a thread tracing it like this. Keep up the good work, man.
  • Scarcity27Scarcity27 Member Posts: 1,906 ★★★★★

    Congrats, @BitterSteel your 3 month old alt has officially surpassed my main

    I really need to get that damned CAIW taken care of.

    This made me laugh ngl.

    If I'm honest, just grind out some revives and plough through it. If my run has proved anything it's that preparation with items can cover a whole host of issues you may have with counters. Grab a high crit rate champ/crit damage champ and go at him, the health pool isn't that high.

    What options do you have?
    I had a few revives and about 280 units when I got to the boss fight yesterday. Team is Doom, Angela, Torch, AA, and Spider Ham.
    I'm using only Spam for the boss. Got him to about 50% before I ran out of everything. I can get the taunt on and get him to throw specials, but the crit only damage node is making it difficult to chip away at him without getting clipped.
    Gifted myself 5 revives from an alt, going to try again once my phone gets charged.
    Yeah honestly my advice for this guy is brute force, the crit node with glancing makes it such a hard time to get damage off that you're unlikely to solo even with taunt champs unless you have She Hulk with her huge damage, or Sparky with his great crit rate.

    I mean take someone like CGR with massive crits
    https://youtu.be/gbVoXb6_93k
    Here's an example I found, fully boosted and suicides R3 obviously, but a rank 5 could easily take off 50% in one go with some crit RNG (which is still mitigated by his great crit chance). For this fight, IMO brute force > counter
    Killmonger works. Takes longer but with decent play save revs due to his indestructible being able to rank the special 3
    @BitterSteel @SpideyFunko thank you both for your help. I have KM, but I haven't really got the hang of him. I decided to just go nuts with Spam and unitman my way through. I managed to acquire 8 revives, and he is now at 7%. Tomorrow I'll grind some more and finish him off.
  • Jon111Jon111 Member Posts: 5

    Iceman - right now I can only see one option for him, King Groot would shrug off the coldsnap at the start of the fight. Unfortunately it’s going to be a long fight with him since you can’t poison iceman, and if you don’t have the regen it may cost you a few revives.

    Thor Rags - Magneto will crush him pretty easily

    Darkhawk - magneto will crush him too

    Captain marvel - any mystic champ can deal with her, she will take a percentage of her health as damage each time she gains charges. Longshot could be your best option since he does incinerate damage which is energy, so will give her even more charges

    Adaptoid - stealthy looks like your best option here, use the web foam pre fight and just use one sp2, then refresh the long duration slow and use sp3 to reload.

    Grandmaster - this fight is more about how you play than who you bring, but some options are better than others. Doom is great, with his tankiness and ability to complete all challenges. Hit monkey can deal big damage in the wounded phases. My advice here is kinda just look at YouTube videos and make sure you understand the phases


    My advice would probably be wait to get a better counter for iceman if I’m honest, it’ll be pretty costly for you to push through him. You have options for all the others though! and there are plenty of shrug/coldsnap immune or resistant champs to choose from :)

    Right now in the incursions tab you could target a few of them

    Stun Crystal - Human Torch is immune, Sasquatch is resistant

    True accuracy - Aegon can be ramped up and shrug off

    Prowess - Emma frost is immune in diamond form

    Incinerate - human torch is immune, mephisto is immune

    Energy resistance - storm X is 100% resistant

    And there are other fantastic champs in each Crystal if you miss one of those, who can definitely be useful.

    I'll just wait some time then, or if I get tired of waiting I might farm a lot of revives and potions and just bull my way through. Thanks a lot for the info!
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  • Ace2319Ace2319 Member Posts: 619 ★★★
    I revisited your first post which said you can get thronebreaker with the worst rng by doing certain content. Some of your t5cc has come from side quests and it’s possible you get really lucky and only pull mutant which would let you get a cat without doing all of said content.
    If you form a cat without completing all content listed are you stopping the challenge or are you going to do all the content you listed to show people even if you have bad luck its possible? Simply out of curiosity (and maybe I want it to last longer)
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Also, won't torch work for darkhawk? Ig the block damage might be a bit much

    He has lionheart so I can't reverse his healing without taking a ton of damage. I believe pre fight gets around it, but it's a lot of pressure for a 4/55 champ to take. Maybe if torch is R5 when I get there I'll reconsider. I guess Colossus could finish off the fight too with some revives
    If im not wrong his nova flames also reverse healing.

    You could try only baiting sp1, though the black damage would definitely be rough

    Either way, ur progress so far is great so it doesnt matter too much if you take time to build the roster up
    Yeah they do reverse healing too, but Lionheart only triggers when reversed by a debuff. That's why YJ passive reversal or Magneto's magnetised doesn't trigger it.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

    Also, won't torch work for darkhawk? Ig the block damage might be a bit much

    He has lionheart so I can't reverse his healing without taking a ton of damage. I believe pre fight gets around it, but it's a lot of pressure for a 4/55 champ to take. Maybe if torch is R5 when I get there I'll reconsider. I guess Colossus could finish off the fight too with some revives
    If im not wrong his nova flames also reverse healing.

    You could try only baiting sp1, though the black damage would definitely be rough

    Either way, ur progress so far is great so it doesnt matter too much if you take time to build the roster up
    Yeah they do reverse healing too, but Lionheart only triggers when reversed by a debuff. That's why YJ passive reversal or Magneto's magnetised doesn't trigger it.
    Despair doesn't either
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    edited January 2022
    Ace2319 said:

    I revisited your first post which said you can get thronebreaker with the worst rng by doing certain content. Some of your t5cc has come from side quests and it’s possible you get really lucky and only pull mutant which would let you get a cat without doing all of said content.
    If you form a cat without completing all content listed are you stopping the challenge or are you going to do all the content you listed to show people even if you have bad luck its possible? Simply out of curiosity (and maybe I want it to last longer)

    @Ace2319 Yeah it's a fair point, I did set out in this challenge to prove that TB wasn't hard to get. If I got super lucky and finished earlier than if I'd had different RNG it wouldn't be much of a point to have made. The whole point of the challenge is to show that you can guarantee yourself TB even with bad RNG.

    Since 7.3 dropped and changed the challenge a little, there are now a few different ways to guarantee TB as there are 6 25% selectors, one in 6.4 completion, one in 7.1 exploration, one in 7.2 exploration, one in 7.3 completion and 4 in 7.3 exploration

    1)
    Get 4 you've guaranteed TB

    2)
    Get to 25% in each class (150% total) and then complete 3 of the places to get a selector

    3)
    Get to 50% in each class (300% total) and then complete 2 of the places to get a selector


    So I think the best way to measure when I can guarantee TB is when I meet one of those scenarios. That would mean that I'm basically simulating the worst luck possible where I pulled the least ideal class with each opening. You mention side quests however, but they will definitely count for the challenge. Basically, anywhere I get T5CC which is a normal part of the game (Calendars, Side quest, special events) will count towards my total. (I only don't include gifting because it's just a spend event).

    I currently have 85% across all my 6 classes, so this basically means I'll carry on completing content as normal, but when I get to 150% across my 6 classes, if I have 3 of the places remaining, I will go and do them and then the challenge is over. If I get to 150% across my classes and I only have 2 remaining (say I'd already explored 7.1), then I will wait for 300% across my classes and do the remaining 2. And if worst comes to worst, I'll just complete all 4 places and have guaranteed it that way.

    What's looking like the easiest way to do this is to go for the second method of 150%, by completing act 6 for 25%, 7.1 for 25% and 7.2 for 25% - that means I'll get an extra 75% and have 160% total across my classes. Then, I go for 7.1 and 7.2 exploration then 7.3 completion. That way, I don't need to explore any variants. If I decide to go for 3rd method then I likely will need to explore variants or 6.1.

    Another option is just rush to 7.3 and explore it, but it all depends whether 7.1 and 2 exploration seems worse than 7.3 exploration.

    The odds are heavily in favour of me getting a fully formed Cat before getting to any of those scenarios. But if I get to that point, I won't R3 the champ until I complete the challenge having simulated the worst possible luck. Basically, there will be a point where I have the means to R3 a champion but I'll keep going until I've completed the challenge.

  • jbxotiicjbxotiic Member Posts: 145
    Hey I know this a bit late bittersteel but any advice on the 6.2.5 mordo boss? I’ll use colossus for the path but the boss is the hard part.
  • Will3808Will3808 Member Posts: 3,813 ★★★★★
    jbxotiic said:

    Hey I know this a bit late bittersteel but any advice on the 6.2.5 mordo boss? I’ll use colossus for the path but the boss is the hard part.

    Don’t quote me on this but I’m pretty sure falcon will work well. With his lock on you should be able to hit mordo while stunned.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    jbxotiic said:

    Hey I know this a bit late bittersteel but any advice on the 6.2.5 mordo boss? I’ll use colossus for the path but the boss is the hard part.

    Go kamikaze with herc
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    jbxotiic said:

    Hey I know this a bit late bittersteel but any advice on the 6.2.5 mordo boss? I’ll use colossus for the path but the boss is the hard part.

    Falcon with mr fantastic suppression/petrify debuffs could be a good shout.

    Hercules as a backup would be good for kamikaze as Desi suggested. Yellowjacket if you get one heavy off will be able to parry heavy by slowing Mordo, plus there’s a petrify on sp2 to reverse power.

    My best advice is grind out some revives and stick up, then go for it!
  • jbxotiicjbxotiic Member Posts: 145
    Thanks for the advice guys, gonna grind some revives and go in there with falcon, mr f, herc, omega and colossus
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Sorry if there’s disappointment from this but there won’t be an update until I have some time to sit down and write it. I haven’t done much in-game in any case, I’ve been grinding potions mainly. So you’re not missing out on much.

    I have a deadline due in the next few weeks for my masters, so a lot of my time is dedicated to that. As long as progress goes well with that, I’ll be able to put some time aside to focus on a write up here!

    Looking forward to the next one!
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

    Sorry if there’s disappointment from this but there won’t be an update until I have some time to sit down and write it. I haven’t done much in-game in any case, I’ve been grinding potions mainly. So you’re not missing out on much.

    I have a deadline due in the next few weeks for my masters, so a lot of my time is dedicated to that. As long as progress goes well with that, I’ll be able to put some time aside to focus on a write up here!

    Looking forward to the next one!

    Was expecting the weekly dose of ministeel. But your pace. All the best for your masters
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Sorry if there’s disappointment from this but there won’t be an update until I have some time to sit down and write it. I haven’t done much in-game in any case, I’ve been grinding potions mainly. So you’re not missing out on much.

    I have a deadline due in the next few weeks for my masters, so a lot of my time is dedicated to that. As long as progress goes well with that, I’ll be able to put some time aside to focus on a write up here!

    Looking forward to the next one!

    Was expecting the weekly dose of ministeel. But your pace. All the best for your masters
    I know! This sort of time is when I usually start writing the update, but a tweak in the program for my masters resulted in a whole heap of problems (imagine moving a picture on Microsoft word, yeah - that bad). Unfortunately I have a meeting tomorrow where I'm updating my supervisor on the project and showing them what the program can do, so I'm currently on damage control to get it back to normal.
  • IcyCoolDudeDoodleIcyCoolDudeDoodle Member Posts: 587 ★★

    Sorry if there’s disappointment from this but there won’t be an update until I have some time to sit down and write it. I haven’t done much in-game in any case, I’ve been grinding potions mainly. So you’re not missing out on much.

    I have a deadline due in the next few weeks for my masters, so a lot of my time is dedicated to that. As long as progress goes well with that, I’ll be able to put some time aside to focus on a write up here!

    Looking forward to the next one!

    Good Luck for your Masters!
  • Jon111Jon111 Member Posts: 5




    Posting here because it's more likely to be answered by kind people like @BitterSteel (who already answered me about 6.4.1 some time ago).

    I'm going to attempt 6.4.6 in a few days. I will take the cosmic path, using Doom (although the tenacity node looks nasty). I should be able to do the whole lane with him, so I have to decide who else to put on the team to fight the GM. Cap IW is decent for that fight, so he is in. But I am not so sure about others. Hyperion might be good, but he's at r4, and does he do anything in that fight that Doom can't?

    Any tips?
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