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  • Ace2319Ace2319 Member Posts: 619 ★★★
    I’m thinking about taking my 6* sorcerer supreme to r2. Do you have any tips?

    Congrats on beating sinister! My only counter is hype but I haven’t had the motivation to push for it yet. Hopefully it won’t be nearly as long as yours 😅

    (Looks like Moonknight and IP both have a crush)
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    I can clearly see how much u enjoyed r1 she hulk for sinister, maybe try moon knight for Medusa bonus points if it’s with the 5* 😜

    Honestly tho, great progress that’s a nasty quest but you got through with suboptimal counters. Profile also looks kinda nice tbh

    Oh, and…. that r1 she hulk should also be usable for 6.3.6 cap IW, have fun 😁

    If I get to medusa without a good counter I might give it a try :D my only worry is that one bad run there can undo all your progress with buffet. At least with sinister, while it was a grind, you couldn't undo progress. Maybe I'll take off dex and do it. That way I can chip it down. Who knows what situation I'll be in by then though!

    Profile is looking great! Weird that a couple months ago I had 4/40s on it and now it's all 6*s and 1 5/65

    She hulk against a glancing/only do damage half the time/only do damage through crits Cap IW sounds genuinly awful. I hope I pull a better option before then haha
  • Sergeant_Sergeant_ Member Posts: 272 ★★
    Sym Supreme is 100% worth r5 imo. I r2'ed my 6* last month and I've been enjoying him so much! He absolutely destroys Cosmics and will be super helpful for both the Champion and the Medusa bosses. Ideally you would like to have MD (I always run 3/5) just to make it easier for spamming sp2's so you might wanna consider investing into MD if you pull him!

    And you're waaaaay ahead of my t5cc wise lol. My highest rn is 16k Tech frags and I've been Cav for alteast 4 months at this point lol. Keep it up tho!
  • I_tell_no_tales_1I_tell_no_tales_1 Member Posts: 1,198 ★★★★
    I am on 6.4
    Have a mystic t5 for sorcerer supreme
    Just need to beat gm
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Congrats on that sinister fight. Can't imagine.

    It's nice to see someone talk so fondly of colossus after all the "overrated" comments. I love my r3 and used a gem myself.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Ace2319 said:

    I’m thinking about taking my 6* sorcerer supreme to r2. Do you have any tips?

    Congrats on beating sinister! My only counter is hype but I haven’t had the motivation to push for it yet. Hopefully it won’t be nearly as long as yours 😅

    (Looks like Moonknight and IP both have a crush)

    My first tip would be do it! She is honestly awesome. I have an R3 6* I use all the time. She has so much utility packed into her kit, and does so much, so well!

    Her block regeneration is great if the opponent has any block penetration, allowing her to be used in some situations Cap IW or other high block proficiency champs couldn't be (just as they can be used in situations she couldn't be like heal block).

    Her slow is one of the most accessible and easy to keep up in the game, it's super useful in so many situations. Same with the armour break, a great piece of utility. She also has nullify on Sp1 which isn't the absolute top, but it's still very reliable. Energy attacks are useful as well, along with a bit of energy resistance. Duped, she can have extra ability accuracy making her a domino counter which is great, and extra regen/armour break/power steal/attack.

    For a quick how to use, learn the order that her blessings appear Fury -> Armour -> Power steal or in other words Armour break -> Regen -> Slow. Heavy can be used to switch between them. Her rune system works by activating specials in each phase. Activating an sp1 stores one rune and activates another of the current phase. So use on the armour phase and it stores 1 regen rune and activates one regen passive. Activating Sp2 stores 2 of the current rune, and activates 1 also pausing all active runes for a set time.

    Launching a special also activates 1 of any stored rune. So if you have 1 of each rune dormant, using a special will activate all of them. This will all probably seem a bit confusing, but it's much easier to see in practice, so I'd suggest taking her out for a spin and working out how she fits together.

    Basically, if you need armour break, throw a special in the fury phase and so on for each relevant utility. As long as a rune is stored, you can activate armour break even when you're not in fury mode. Sp3 grants a permanent rune of the current phase, so every special you throw activates that rune.

    I hope all of this helps!
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Sergeant_ said:

    Sym Supreme is 100% worth r5 imo. I r2'ed my 6* last month and I've been enjoying him so much! He absolutely destroys Cosmics and will be super helpful for both the Champion and the Medusa bosses. Ideally you would like to have MD (I always run 3/5) just to make it easier for spamming sp2's so you might wanna consider investing into MD if you pull him!

    And you're waaaaay ahead of my t5cc wise lol. My highest rn is 16k Tech frags and I've been Cav for alteast 4 months at this point lol. Keep it up tho!

    Yeah he would be a really cool pull! I do have MD 2/5 I think, and will definitely get it to 3/5 when I get the loyalty!

    The only reason I have that much T5CC is because of the Knull 25% selector haha, I'm so glad I went mutant in the end. I was close to going for skill at the time!
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★


    HB has good heavy reaches


    The words felt wrong as I wrote them, but it's true! Hulkbuster has enough heavy reach to hit Omega Red after he throws an Sp1, not every champ can do that lol

    HB has an unreliable heavy spam, but his reach is decent if you position him right
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Congrats on that sinister fight. Can't imagine.

    It's nice to see someone talk so fondly of colossus after all the "overrated" comments. I love my r3 and used a gem myself.

    I wish I could forget.

    Honestly some of those overrated comments will have been from me haha. I still don't think he's as important for an end game player, as many champs can do what he can do, but it doesn't take away from what he can do anyway! His damage is nuts, he has great tankiness and immunities. Just an awesome champ. And that's not to say he's not worth a rank up for an end game champ, at the end of the day rank whoever you want to get the job done!
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  • SazedSazed Member Posts: 304 ★★
    Thank you for that summary/ guide of Sorcerer Supreme. I've wanted to start hunting her, cause she looks fun and effective, but I'm still wondering if it's worth stopping the Apoc hunt.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Have you started thinking about ranking up venom for variants? What's your content goals in say the next 2 months?

    I haven't actually considered ranking venom yet. I feel like while Venom is a great champion, as I have to focus on a few specific champions at this point, he doesn't quite make the cut for me. He would be a perfect champion to level up and rank as a 6* for sure, but as a 5*, I don't have anything I need him for right now. I don't have a view to complete the XL variant at the moment, I've already completed the Symbiote variant, and my villain roster is coming along nicely as well.

    My content goals in the next two months (great question btw), I have to say at minimum have completed 6.3, Variant 4 completion, get to the point I can 100% Cav EQ monthly. As a tentative goal, I'd like to say 6.4 and Variant 8 completion as well, but I think that depends on a few factors like champ RNG, how much time I have to grind revives etc.
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian

    Have you started thinking about ranking up venom for variants? What's your content goals in say the next 2 months?

    I haven't actually considered ranking venom yet. I feel like while Venom is a great champion, as I have to focus on a few specific champions at this point, he doesn't quite make the cut for me. He would be a perfect champion to level up and rank as a 6* for sure, but as a 5*, I don't have anything I need him for right now. I don't have a view to complete the XL variant at the moment, I've already completed the Symbiote variant, and my villain roster is coming along nicely as well.

    My content goals in the next two months (great question btw), I have to say at minimum have completed 6.3, Variant 4 completion, get to the point I can 100% Cav EQ monthly. As a tentative goal, I'd like to say 6.4 and Variant 8 completion as well, but I think that depends on a few factors like champ RNG, how much time I have to grind revives etc.
    What maps and AW are you doing at the moment? Fully casual to allow you to keep up with the main or more ‘representative’ of this being a main account, running Map 5, say.

    The account is coming along nicely, in terms of Variant I don’t think it’s really worth looking at any of the variants that don’t give a rank up gem on completion at this stage as the difficulty is pretty samey for the most part.
  • IcyCoolDudeDoodleIcyCoolDudeDoodle Member Posts: 587 ★★
    This has motivated me to officially push my main's 3* HT to max and alt's 4* HT to max.
  • Gogeta91199Gogeta91199 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★

    Week 13
    Overview
    Boy oh boy, another week done, progress made, champs pulled, lag experienced, and about 35 hours solid of baiting specials. Fun fun fun!

    This week began with the anniversary stuff dropping, and wow that is super helpful for my account. On my main, as an advanced TB, it's nice to have for sure as a boost - but for this lil Cav account, it's pretty close to a gamechanger. The calendar is perfect, half a 6* is amazing, 5* sig stones are great, and the T5CC selector is amazing. As soon as I saw it I knew I was going to pick mutant, not a doubt in my mind.

    The arena was also amazing, even though I only have about 6 1* champs, I just did a bit here and there and managed to do it in a few days. That got me an essentially free 5* and 6*, so I didn't feel pressure while opening, I'd have been ok getting pretty much anyone.






    Overall, I'm happy with that if I'm honest. A magik/dorm counter is never a bad thing, heal block is always nice. A solid pull in my view. I'm not sure if he would become my science option for TB, he would definitely be a last resort if I didn't have anyone better. But I think he brings value to my account, so I'm happy. As for Moonknight, my 6* is plenty good at shredding every fight he comes across, so the 5* isn't particularly welcome.

    The halls of healing and ISO have been great daily quests, revives are always handy and ISO is such a roadblock right now that every bit is amazing to get. I have been 100%ing every difficulty for them to squeeze out every bit possible. I've been selecting science to level up torch, which is super handy, he has been so helpful already.

    With the ISO, I have levelled up Colossus to level 25 and he has been crushing it. I mean, he genuinely has turned this challenge around with how much pure damage he throws around. He smashes through paths, especially with the Omega synergy I have as a 5*. Using him for UC exploration just made everything feel so simple. A few heavies and the fight is over! I don't want to sound greedy or tempt fate, but awakening him would be such a blessing to get those permanent armours, it really shoots up his damage in longer fights. Honestly, if he continues impressing I just might be tempted to rank him up on my main account. I'm just getting a new-found appreciation for him. Not even new-found, as I used to love him. It's like finding an old toy you used to love playing with and remembering why. But in this case the new toy is 30k heavy attacks.

    I also rank 5d my Sorcerer Supreme with the mystic 4-5 gem I got from the variant a few weeks ago. I figured it's probably time, I'm getting some mystic ISO from the quest, and I may as well start levelling her up slowly. Unfortunately it means saying goodbye to my 6* Doc Oc profile pic, which I was getting fond of. Can't wait to have the catalyst capacity to rank him up!

    As I said, I also explored UC 100%. Colossus tore through Kraven, transforming that fight from one I had difficulty facing in the completion run to one I could do with a blindfold on. I really need to start writing something in this update that isn't Colossus praise...

    I also went for some Cav EQ completion, last month I only completed chapter 1 as I couldn't get any further. This month I made it to the end of chapter 2! This wouldn't have been possible without Torch and Colossus, the first quest alone with a permanent regen was too much without them. Torch benefits from the global, and colossus has permanent buffs to remove the regen. Luke Cage went down with a 200 hit solo with Torch. 1.2 Tigra wasn't bad at all with Torch pre fight, the path was ok with Colossus, MK and Red Hulk. Moonknight and Rulk benefit from the global. 2.1 is the sinister 6 quest, Goblin and Doc benefit from global, Colossus smashed away. Yondu was pretty simple with Doc Oc with 10 passive furies. 2.2 was tougher, Ghulk started earning his keep as an Avenger, the global was nice here. But Quake was rough, that block damage can get pretty crazy. Ended up just using Sp3 with Colossus and leaving her protection up while I built to it. I'm not sure on 3.1 and 2, 3.1 is just so ridiculously bad I don't think it's worth my time. I'll consider it, but the unstoppable and stun immune is so dumb

    I'll move on now to a pretty big move I've made in the account. I used the 5* Generic gem I got way back in week 6 from the Knull Cosmic Horror side quest. Now, the champion in question did come up as a candidate a few weeks ago when I pulled them, but I decided against it due to a few different factors. But since then, things have changed. I won't keep it from you any longer, here is the newly awakened champ...




    My reasoning is thus: I have a lot of sig stones (or I guess had), so instead of only sig 80 or so, I can get him to sig 144. I also pulled Colossus since then, and everywhere I've gone with Colossus I've been bringing Omega so it definitely helps for him not to be dead weight. Additionally, it's never going to be wasted resources to invest in a 5* Omega during this challenge in terms of pulling a 6*. I mean, I could pull a 6* Omega 5 times tomorrow, and I'm still not going to be using him instead of the 5*. Also, there aren't many champs that need awakening as much as Omega does. I still have a 5* Cosmic gem for a champ like Herc if I did get him, and I will clearly get more 5* gems in the future. I want to get some benefit from it now, and I feel this is a good way to get some. Him and Colossus will be such MVPs for act 6 and beyond, I can't see myself regretting it - until I pull him in a few days time, cause you know that's how it works...

    Lastly, I also have my sights on variant 4, as it's probably one of the easier variants to complete, and I needed a counter for the electro in chapter one. Omega will do great! Once he's down, I can hand over to my 1-4*s to get through the rest of the variant. But I won't be doing it any time soon, my target at the moment is 6.2.

    One last update before the main event of this week, I completed the side quest that dropped yesterday and pulled these as my rewards!



    Imagine a pic of 5 side quest cavs, 4 3* and a 5* Rhino. Yeah, I know I forgot again.


    Rhino could be cool with a buff, but really I don't need another science option! Cable is never really gonna be ranked up, but nice to have the synergy for Apoc if I pulled him.

    And now the main update, I've began my journey into 6.2!

    You all really have @JoshKosh557 to thank for this. I was thinking about what he said re: She Hulk vs Mr Sinister and using her without a fury buff, as a ramp up champ she can largely get around the issue of doing 10% damage. What I couldn't do however, was get around the issue of her being rank 1 level 1, I'd just ranked up Torch and was flat out of science ISO.

    I basically figured I'll beat the Sym Supreme quest, I'll see how hard the paths are and then when I get to sinister I'll be able to make the decision whether to push for the completion of 6.2.2.

    The Sym quest is life cycle, which really isn't too difficult. Colossus makes it easy as pie, lots of heavy attacks, stun on sp1 in case it's needed to help time the KO. The paths went down super fast to be honest, I don't know why but I just thought it would be so much harder, but I was finishing fights in one Sp2. I guess I'd built Act 6 up in my mind a little that even the early quests seemed scary in my memory. for 6.2.1 I used Colossus, Omega Red, Torch, Red Hulk and Doc Oc. The Dormammu mini boss with bubble shield was destroyed with Torch pre fight, and even without nova flame the Sym boss was easy enough with torch (even though incinerates didn't do damage with life cycle), I just got into flame on by applying 7 incinerates and used the nova flame to do damage.

    Onto 6.2.2, the big one. The path again is easy enough, I went the biohazard lane and used Colossus and Omega to power through. On my team I also brought She Hulk R1 L1, Ghulk 6* and Rhulk. I figured then, I can use team revives and throw everyone at the boss, or I can focus on one if they end up doing better.

    The path went smoothly, and I pulled up to the boss, all 356,000 HP of him. With the 90% damage reduction, it meant I'd need to do 3.56m damage with my assortment of low ranked champs. I'm basically doing a big abyss fight with a rank 1 Ghulk, Rank 4 Rhulk and Rank 1 she hulk... Oh, and my crits will all be regenerated.

    I began by using Rhulk, I thought that the extra damage from the red numbers would get around his regen and be really helpful, but holy-bugged-interaction batman! The damage that the red numbers are supposed to do is 180% of the damage done per hit, when at 10 charges.




    But as you can see in the screenshot, while it should be doing 216 damage, it's only doing 22. As it's physical damage, and Sinister doesn't have any resistance, I think there's some weird interaction with the Caustic Temper damage reduction reducing the burst damage to way less than what it should be. So unfortunately, Rhulk was not quite as useful as expected. More unfortunately, I noticed 2 or 3 hundred hits in. And having taken off 3% health, so that was fun.

    Oddly, the AI of Mr Sinister seems very different to when I last faced him, and I feel like he's been chatting to 6.3.5 Mysterio with the amount of random heavies he threw. You know when Mysterio just throws a heavy on the other side of the screen, or when you're walking towards him? Or just about any other opportunity. Yeah, that was Mr Sinister today.

    I then moved onto throwing Colossus at the boss and taking off a whole percent! Omega too, who did decently by taking off 4% after a few hundred hits. Ghulk did surprisingly good with his heal block, obviously not great damage, but the heal block helped. And I got into a good rhythm with him! My first try with She Hulk I got caught with a big heavy and died almost straight away, so I went a few rounds of revives with other champs.

    My first big chunk of Sinister came later, when I got into a great rhythm with She Hulk and took around 15% off, I was stacking up to 80 furies and hitting for like 800 mediums, which was pretty great considering the damage reduction! I got about 350 hits off before mistiming a special dodge.

    I won't bore you with many more details here, suffice it to say that it was a long fight. I mean, I didn't sit down and play through the whole thing in one sitting. I think I would have died. I did this over the course of today, and played for 15 mins, stopped, went and did something else and came back. I finished it a few hours ago with one hell of a run, I started with him at 40% and took him down the rest of the way with a 583 hit combo!





    Overall, I think I made the right call. I used 6 or 7 revives, a couple hundred units, and now it opens up the rest of the chapter to make progress on. I don't have any other fights in 6.2 that I'm roadblocked for. Of course, this pretty much guarantees pulling a perfect counter for sinister soon, but I feel like waiting around for one wasn't the smart move. So thanks Josh, you owe me a few hours of my life...

    Moving onto 6.2.3, which is the last quest I did today, and the last update of the week. Icarus was pretty simple for Colossus and Co. I brought War Machine, Hulkbuster, Omega, Colossus and Doc Oc. There was a tricky challenge in Emma Frost that meant I couldn't parry heavy, but War Machine saved me with his essentially permanent armour break. I'm so happy I have him and am very excited to get him ranked all the way up!

    The Omega boss went down with a little fuss. I was a little tired and just wanted to get it over with, so made a couple mistakes. But HB had a great run taking 40% off him, limber is the annoying part meaning it's hard to remove your furies. But War Machine and HB have good heavy reaches to counter his SP1. Colossus had a good burst of damage, and Doc Oc had a great heavy chain in the corner. A couple revives later, and he was down!

    Overall, another great week of the challenge. I also want to say thank you to everyone showing interest and commenting every week. I know we are all finding the game hard at the moment, but I'm glad there's a great corner of the community supporting me in this challenge! It's really keeping my interest in the game alive, I'm spending more time on this account than my main! So yeah, mushy part over, thank you. And I hope the interest stays here as we get further in the challenge!

    Notable Pulls
    Gladiator Hulk 6*
    Moon Knight 5*
    Cable 5*
    Rhino 5*

    Notable Rank ups
    Sorcerer Supreme rank 5
    Colossus levelled to 1/25
    Human Torch to rank 4
    Omega Red to rank 2
    Omega Red to rank 3
    Omega Red Awakened and Sig 144

    Content Completed
    UC 100%
    Cavalier EQ Chapter 1-2 Completion
    Side Quest Heroic - Legendary 100%
    Act 6.2.1 - 3 completion

    Most Wanted Champs
    Now that Sinister is down, we can have a little bit of a change around. I've half got my eye on 6.3, and half just want cool champs tbh. The bosses I need counters for are Cap IW and Medusa. For Havok I have Colossus, Mysterio I have Torch, IMIW I have Torch and Nick Fury I have Colossus.

    Skill: Kingpin - same reasoning as last week "I think KP would be the push I need to save units to get willpower. I do want to get it, but I haven't felt like I've needed it yet. Someone like Diablo or Ibom could do the same, but I don't have KP as a 6* or a ranked up 5* on my main and I'd love to try him out"

    Science: Mr Fantastic - He just helps out all around the place doesn't he? Such a great support champ, and from what I hear by himself as well! I've never had the opportunity to fight with him properly, but pulling him here would be great!

    Mystic: Symbiote Supreme - I really, really wanted to stick with Dragon Man as my most wanted champ from last week. But since he was mainly there for sinister, I'm gonna change my mind for an option for Medusa in 6.3. I also have an awakened Sym on my main, and never found the push to R2 him. Maybe pulling him here could be the push!

    Cosmic: Medusa - I recently pulled her as a 6* on my main from the featured, and I'm kinda hyped about her. I never pulled her as a 5* while she was on top of the meta, so would be nice to test her out. A new account is a great opportunity to try new champs!

    Tech: Stark Spidey - I know he'd be a great option for 6.3 Cap IW with his taunt, and I can already hear Josh Kosh saying use She Hulk. Honestly, she may be a good option for him. I don't really want to rank her up, but maybe to rank 2.. Spidey would be cool though, same reasoning as Medusa!

    Mutant: White Mags - you know why.

    T5CC Tracker




    Can you believe I'm 50% of the way there? I mean with RNG on my side, I could 100% 2 variants and have formed a Class cat! I mean, I kinda don't want that to happen, as I want to feel like I've earned it instead of got lucky, but still. Would be crazy. Especially since I can't even R2 a 6* yet! I'm sure my progress will balance out to other classes as well. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I formed a couple classes before getting to level 60 to unlock the inventory space.

    Plan for Next Week
    I really need to get on and do some incursions, there's a lot of 5* shards available there. I'm gonna try and finish 6.2 this week as well, Colossus, Torch and Sorcerer should manage Kingpin, Mordo and Champion respectively. And gifting event starts this week too! I hope you're all ready! I'm likely going to be gifting items, but there are usually some GGCs to open from the milestones, so fingers crossed for some good pulls there! Good luck to all of you guys!

    At the end of week 13 this is what the roster looks like!




    Wow dude cant even imagine fighting sinister without a perfect counter let alone a r1 shehulk. Kudos dude 👍🏼
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    I think what happened with red hulk makes sense. Your base hit us reduced by 90 and deals 120.

    The red damage deals 180% of 120. This being a different source of damage us affected by caustic temper and reduced by 90% like it should and results in ≈22
  • Will3808Will3808 Member Posts: 3,762 ★★★★★


    HB has good heavy reaches


    It’s unreliable but not that short. There are many people with shorter heavy reaches.
  • Gogeta91199Gogeta91199 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★

    Week 13
    Overview
    Boy oh boy, another week done, progress made, champs pulled, lag experienced, and about 35 hours solid of baiting specials. Fun fun fun!

    This week began with the anniversary stuff dropping, and wow that is super helpful for my account. On my main, as an advanced TB, it's nice to have for sure as a boost - but for this lil Cav account, it's pretty close to a gamechanger. The calendar is perfect, half a 6* is amazing, 5* sig stones are great, and the T5CC selector is amazing. As soon as I saw it I knew I was going to pick mutant, not a doubt in my mind.

    The arena was also amazing, even though I only have about 6 1* champs, I just did a bit here and there and managed to do it in a few days. That got me an essentially free 5* and 6*, so I didn't feel pressure while opening, I'd have been ok getting pretty much anyone.






    Overall, I'm happy with that if I'm honest. A magik/dorm counter is never a bad thing, heal block is always nice. A solid pull in my view. I'm not sure if he would become my science option for TB, he would definitely be a last resort if I didn't have anyone better. But I think he brings value to my account, so I'm happy. As for Moonknight, my 6* is plenty good at shredding every fight he comes across, so the 5* isn't particularly welcome.

    The halls of healing and ISO have been great daily quests, revives are always handy and ISO is such a roadblock right now that every bit is amazing to get. I have been 100%ing every difficulty for them to squeeze out every bit possible. I've been selecting science to level up torch, which is super handy, he has been so helpful already.

    With the ISO, I have levelled up Colossus to level 25 and he has been crushing it. I mean, he genuinely has turned this challenge around with how much pure damage he throws around. He smashes through paths, especially with the Omega synergy I have as a 5*. Using him for UC exploration just made everything feel so simple. A few heavies and the fight is over! I don't want to sound greedy or tempt fate, but awakening him would be such a blessing to get those permanent armours, it really shoots up his damage in longer fights. Honestly, if he continues impressing I just might be tempted to rank him up on my main account. I'm just getting a new-found appreciation for him. Not even new-found, as I used to love him. It's like finding an old toy you used to love playing with and remembering why. But in this case the new toy is 30k heavy attacks.

    I also rank 5d my Sorcerer Supreme with the mystic 4-5 gem I got from the variant a few weeks ago. I figured it's probably time, I'm getting some mystic ISO from the quest, and I may as well start levelling her up slowly. Unfortunately it means saying goodbye to my 6* Doc Oc profile pic, which I was getting fond of. Can't wait to have the catalyst capacity to rank him up!

    As I said, I also explored UC 100%. Colossus tore through Kraven, transforming that fight from one I had difficulty facing in the completion run to one I could do with a blindfold on. I really need to start writing something in this update that isn't Colossus praise...

    I also went for some Cav EQ completion, last month I only completed chapter 1 as I couldn't get any further. This month I made it to the end of chapter 2! This wouldn't have been possible without Torch and Colossus, the first quest alone with a permanent regen was too much without them. Torch benefits from the global, and colossus has permanent buffs to remove the regen. Luke Cage went down with a 200 hit solo with Torch. 1.2 Tigra wasn't bad at all with Torch pre fight, the path was ok with Colossus, MK and Red Hulk. Moonknight and Rulk benefit from the global. 2.1 is the sinister 6 quest, Goblin and Doc benefit from global, Colossus smashed away. Yondu was pretty simple with Doc Oc with 10 passive furies. 2.2 was tougher, Ghulk started earning his keep as an Avenger, the global was nice here. But Quake was rough, that block damage can get pretty crazy. Ended up just using Sp3 with Colossus and leaving her protection up while I built to it. I'm not sure on 3.1 and 2, 3.1 is just so ridiculously bad I don't think it's worth my time. I'll consider it, but the unstoppable and stun immune is so dumb

    I'll move on now to a pretty big move I've made in the account. I used the 5* Generic gem I got way back in week 6 from the Knull Cosmic Horror side quest. Now, the champion in question did come up as a candidate a few weeks ago when I pulled them, but I decided against it due to a few different factors. But since then, things have changed. I won't keep it from you any longer, here is the newly awakened champ...




    My reasoning is thus: I have a lot of sig stones (or I guess had), so instead of only sig 80 or so, I can get him to sig 144. I also pulled Colossus since then, and everywhere I've gone with Colossus I've been bringing Omega so it definitely helps for him not to be dead weight. Additionally, it's never going to be wasted resources to invest in a 5* Omega during this challenge in terms of pulling a 6*. I mean, I could pull a 6* Omega 5 times tomorrow, and I'm still not going to be using him instead of the 5*. Also, there aren't many champs that need awakening as much as Omega does. I still have a 5* Cosmic gem for a champ like Herc if I did get him, and I will clearly get more 5* gems in the future. I want to get some benefit from it now, and I feel this is a good way to get some. Him and Colossus will be such MVPs for act 6 and beyond, I can't see myself regretting it - until I pull him in a few days time, cause you know that's how it works...

    Lastly, I also have my sights on variant 4, as it's probably one of the easier variants to complete, and I needed a counter for the electro in chapter one. Omega will do great! Once he's down, I can hand over to my 1-4*s to get through the rest of the variant. But I won't be doing it any time soon, my target at the moment is 6.2.

    One last update before the main event of this week, I completed the side quest that dropped yesterday and pulled these as my rewards!



    Imagine a pic of 5 side quest cavs, 4 3* and a 5* Rhino. Yeah, I know I forgot again.


    Rhino could be cool with a buff, but really I don't need another science option! Cable is never really gonna be ranked up, but nice to have the synergy for Apoc if I pulled him.

    And now the main update, I've began my journey into 6.2!

    You all really have @JoshKosh557 to thank for this. I was thinking about what he said re: She Hulk vs Mr Sinister and using her without a fury buff, as a ramp up champ she can largely get around the issue of doing 10% damage. What I couldn't do however, was get around the issue of her being rank 1 level 1, I'd just ranked up Torch and was flat out of science ISO.

    I basically figured I'll beat the Sym Supreme quest, I'll see how hard the paths are and then when I get to sinister I'll be able to make the decision whether to push for the completion of 6.2.2.

    The Sym quest is life cycle, which really isn't too difficult. Colossus makes it easy as pie, lots of heavy attacks, stun on sp1 in case it's needed to help time the KO. The paths went down super fast to be honest, I don't know why but I just thought it would be so much harder, but I was finishing fights in one Sp2. I guess I'd built Act 6 up in my mind a little that even the early quests seemed scary in my memory. for 6.2.1 I used Colossus, Omega Red, Torch, Red Hulk and Doc Oc. The Dormammu mini boss with bubble shield was destroyed with Torch pre fight, and even without nova flame the Sym boss was easy enough with torch (even though incinerates didn't do damage with life cycle), I just got into flame on by applying 7 incinerates and used the nova flame to do damage.

    Onto 6.2.2, the big one. The path again is easy enough, I went the biohazard lane and used Colossus and Omega to power through. On my team I also brought She Hulk R1 L1, Ghulk 6* and Rhulk. I figured then, I can use team revives and throw everyone at the boss, or I can focus on one if they end up doing better.

    The path went smoothly, and I pulled up to the boss, all 356,000 HP of him. With the 90% damage reduction, it meant I'd need to do 3.56m damage with my assortment of low ranked champs. I'm basically doing a big abyss fight with a rank 1 Ghulk, Rank 4 Rhulk and Rank 1 she hulk... Oh, and my crits will all be regenerated.

    I began by using Rhulk, I thought that the extra damage from the red numbers would get around his regen and be really helpful, but holy-bugged-interaction batman! The damage that the red numbers are supposed to do is 180% of the damage done per hit, when at 10 charges.




    But as you can see in the screenshot, while it should be doing 216 damage, it's only doing 22. As it's physical damage, and Sinister doesn't have any resistance, I think there's some weird interaction with the Caustic Temper damage reduction reducing the burst damage to way less than what it should be. So unfortunately, Rhulk was not quite as useful as expected. More unfortunately, I noticed 2 or 3 hundred hits in. And having taken off 3% health, so that was fun.

    Oddly, the AI of Mr Sinister seems very different to when I last faced him, and I feel like he's been chatting to 6.3.5 Mysterio with the amount of random heavies he threw. You know when Mysterio just throws a heavy on the other side of the screen, or when you're walking towards him? Or just about any other opportunity. Yeah, that was Mr Sinister today.

    I then moved onto throwing Colossus at the boss and taking off a whole percent! Omega too, who did decently by taking off 4% after a few hundred hits. Ghulk did surprisingly good with his heal block, obviously not great damage, but the heal block helped. And I got into a good rhythm with him! My first try with She Hulk I got caught with a big heavy and died almost straight away, so I went a few rounds of revives with other champs.

    My first big chunk of Sinister came later, when I got into a great rhythm with She Hulk and took around 15% off, I was stacking up to 80 furies and hitting for like 800 mediums, which was pretty great considering the damage reduction! I got about 350 hits off before mistiming a special dodge.

    I won't bore you with many more details here, suffice it to say that it was a long fight. I mean, I didn't sit down and play through the whole thing in one sitting. I think I would have died. I did this over the course of today, and played for 15 mins, stopped, went and did something else and came back. I finished it a few hours ago with one hell of a run, I started with him at 40% and took him down the rest of the way with a 583 hit combo!





    Overall, I think I made the right call. I used 6 or 7 revives, a couple hundred units, and now it opens up the rest of the chapter to make progress on. I don't have any other fights in 6.2 that I'm roadblocked for. Of course, this pretty much guarantees pulling a perfect counter for sinister soon, but I feel like waiting around for one wasn't the smart move. So thanks Josh, you owe me a few hours of my life...

    Moving onto 6.2.3, which is the last quest I did today, and the last update of the week. Icarus was pretty simple for Colossus and Co. I brought War Machine, Hulkbuster, Omega, Colossus and Doc Oc. There was a tricky challenge in Emma Frost that meant I couldn't parry heavy, but War Machine saved me with his essentially permanent armour break. I'm so happy I have him and am very excited to get him ranked all the way up!

    The Omega boss went down with a little fuss. I was a little tired and just wanted to get it over with, so made a couple mistakes. But HB had a great run taking 40% off him, limber is the annoying part meaning it's hard to remove your furies. But War Machine and HB have good heavy reaches to counter his SP1. Colossus had a good burst of damage, and Doc Oc had a great heavy chain in the corner. A couple revives later, and he was down!

    Overall, another great week of the challenge. I also want to say thank you to everyone showing interest and commenting every week. I know we are all finding the game hard at the moment, but I'm glad there's a great corner of the community supporting me in this challenge! It's really keeping my interest in the game alive, I'm spending more time on this account than my main! So yeah, mushy part over, thank you. And I hope the interest stays here as we get further in the challenge!

    Notable Pulls
    Gladiator Hulk 6*
    Moon Knight 5*
    Cable 5*
    Rhino 5*

    Notable Rank ups
    Sorcerer Supreme rank 5
    Colossus levelled to 1/25
    Human Torch to rank 4
    Omega Red to rank 2
    Omega Red to rank 3
    Omega Red Awakened and Sig 144

    Content Completed
    UC 100%
    Cavalier EQ Chapter 1-2 Completion
    Side Quest Heroic - Legendary 100%
    Act 6.2.1 - 3 completion

    Most Wanted Champs
    Now that Sinister is down, we can have a little bit of a change around. I've half got my eye on 6.3, and half just want cool champs tbh. The bosses I need counters for are Cap IW and Medusa. For Havok I have Colossus, Mysterio I have Torch, IMIW I have Torch and Nick Fury I have Colossus.

    Skill: Kingpin - same reasoning as last week "I think KP would be the push I need to save units to get willpower. I do want to get it, but I haven't felt like I've needed it yet. Someone like Diablo or Ibom could do the same, but I don't have KP as a 6* or a ranked up 5* on my main and I'd love to try him out"

    Science: Mr Fantastic - He just helps out all around the place doesn't he? Such a great support champ, and from what I hear by himself as well! I've never had the opportunity to fight with him properly, but pulling him here would be great!

    Mystic: Symbiote Supreme - I really, really wanted to stick with Dragon Man as my most wanted champ from last week. But since he was mainly there for sinister, I'm gonna change my mind for an option for Medusa in 6.3. I also have an awakened Sym on my main, and never found the push to R2 him. Maybe pulling him here could be the push!

    Cosmic: Medusa - I recently pulled her as a 6* on my main from the featured, and I'm kinda hyped about her. I never pulled her as a 5* while she was on top of the meta, so would be nice to test her out. A new account is a great opportunity to try new champs!

    Tech: Stark Spidey - I know he'd be a great option for 6.3 Cap IW with his taunt, and I can already hear Josh Kosh saying use She Hulk. Honestly, she may be a good option for him. I don't really want to rank her up, but maybe to rank 2.. Spidey would be cool though, same reasoning as Medusa!

    Mutant: White Mags - you know why.

    T5CC Tracker




    Can you believe I'm 50% of the way there? I mean with RNG on my side, I could 100% 2 variants and have formed a Class cat! I mean, I kinda don't want that to happen, as I want to feel like I've earned it instead of got lucky, but still. Would be crazy. Especially since I can't even R2 a 6* yet! I'm sure my progress will balance out to other classes as well. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I formed a couple classes before getting to level 60 to unlock the inventory space.

    Plan for Next Week
    I really need to get on and do some incursions, there's a lot of 5* shards available there. I'm gonna try and finish 6.2 this week as well, Colossus, Torch and Sorcerer should manage Kingpin, Mordo and Champion respectively. And gifting event starts this week too! I hope you're all ready! I'm likely going to be gifting items, but there are usually some GGCs to open from the milestones, so fingers crossed for some good pulls there! Good luck to all of you guys!

    At the end of week 13 this is what the roster looks like!




    Wow dude cant even imagine fighting sinister without a perfect counter let alone a r1 shehulk. Kudos dude 👍🏼
    Kudos to him indeed.

    But did you have to quote the whole thing?
    Not really😂 just a habit 😂
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    I think what happened with red hulk makes sense. Your base hit us reduced by 90 and deals 120.

    The red damage deals 180% of 120. This being a different source of damage us affected by caustic temper and reduced by 90% like it should and results in ≈22

    That’s annoying but I guess it makes sense. The red damage just gets a double whammy reducing it twice then haha.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    @Gogeta91199 i appreciate the kind words mate, it wasn’t easy using a r1 she hulk lol but I got into a good rhythm.

    If it’s alright though, just because of the size of the posts, try not to quote the whole thing, it can be a bit of a pain scrolling through a ton every time you have a new comment lol

    Thanks!
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    edited December 2021
    Awakened COLOSSUS!! That makes me so happy

    Merry Christmas to you too
  • Sergeant_Sergeant_ Member Posts: 272 ★★
    Damn congrats on finishing 6.2 and awakening that 6* Colossus!

    I've been putting off 6.2 for like 3 months now. Just been ranking champs to make my roster a lil bit more stronger. That being said, do you think I'm ready for 6.2 roster-wise @BitterSteel ?




    The only 6*s I'm gonna use are Ultron (if I need him), Sym Supreme and Heimdall.


  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Awakened COLOSSUS!! That makes me so happy

    Merry Christmas to you too

    Was such an amazing pull, and to have Nick fury and CMM either side lol.

    Thank you!
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Sergeant_ said:

    Damn congrats on finishing 6.2 and awakening that 6* Colossus!

    I've been putting off 6.2 for like 3 months now. Just been ranking champs to make my roster a lil bit more stronger. That being said, do you think I'm ready for 6.2 roster-wise @BitterSteel ?




    The only 6*s I'm gonna use are Ultron (if I need him), Sym Supreme and Heimdall.


    Right so I can’t say anything skill wise, you know what level of skill you are so you just need to be honest with yourself about that. Revives can obviously balance out skill, so grinding some out beforehand will be very helpful either way

    In terms of roadblocks, here’s what you need roster wise. I’ll do the first 3 quests, then let me know if you’d like further advice when you get there :)

    6.2.1
    I’d recommend the path starting with Kamala Khan
    Life cycle counter - you have archangel, torch pre fight, warlock. Save torch for the dormammu mini boss
    Sym counter - use Spidey 2099 imo

    6.2.2
    I’d recommend going the path starting with gwenpool with biohazard
    Backblast counter - you have warlock and colossus who will do well. Just be careful with warlock if he crits too hard he’ll be incinerated
    Sinister counter - warlock with the heimdall synergy with Angela is the best option for you probably. You don’t want to bring ultron AND warlock though, because that’ll give them a synergy that constantly gives you furies and will feed Sinister’s power. So pick one.
    Team: colossus, warlock/ultron, heimdall, Angela, then Ibom I’d say.

    6.2.3
    I’d recommend going left, all the way until masacre, then go right to cap ww2. That’s the easiest path imo
    Icarus counter - Corvus will do a lot for you and you can get 3 charges on the path. Falcon will also be quite good at keeping furies off yourself. Spidey 2099 is immune to buffs if you want to avoid the node completely. There’s a tough emma frost to deal with since you can’t heavy attack her, Spidey would be good here.

    Corvus will wreck the boss with a cosmic power boost.


    Hope this helps :)
  • Sergeant_Sergeant_ Member Posts: 272 ★★

    Sergeant_ said:

    Damn congrats on finishing 6.2 and awakening that 6* Colossus!

    I've been putting off 6.2 for like 3 months now. Just been ranking champs to make my roster a lil bit more stronger. That being said, do you think I'm ready for 6.2 roster-wise @BitterSteel ?




    The only 6*s I'm gonna use are Ultron (if I need him), Sym Supreme and Heimdall.


    Right so I can’t say anything skill wise, you know what level of skill you are so you just need to be honest with yourself about that. Revives can obviously balance out skill, so grinding some out beforehand will be very helpful either way

    In terms of roadblocks, here’s what you need roster wise. I’ll do the first 3 quests, then let me know if you’d like further advice when you get there :)

    6.2.1
    I’d recommend the path starting with Kamala Khan
    Life cycle counter - you have archangel, torch pre fight, warlock. Save torch for the dormammu mini boss
    Sym counter - use Spidey 2099 imo

    6.2.2
    I’d recommend going the path starting with gwenpool with biohazard
    Backblast counter - you have warlock and colossus who will do well. Just be careful with warlock if he crits too hard he’ll be incinerated
    Sinister counter - warlock with the heimdall synergy with Angela is the best option for you probably. You don’t want to bring ultron AND warlock though, because that’ll give them a synergy that constantly gives you furies and will feed Sinister’s power. So pick one.
    Team: colossus, warlock/ultron, heimdall, Angela, then Ibom I’d say.

    6.2.3
    I’d recommend going left, all the way until masacre, then go right to cap ww2. That’s the easiest path imo
    Icarus counter - Corvus will do a lot for you and you can get 3 charges on the path. Falcon will also be quite good at keeping furies off yourself. Spidey 2099 is immune to buffs if you want to avoid the node completely. There’s a tough emma frost to deal with since you can’t heavy attack her, Spidey would be good here.

    Corvus will wreck the boss with a cosmic power boost.


    Hope this helps :)
    Thx a ton for this! I have about 6 lvl 1 revs, 12 lvl 2 revs and 3 lvl 3 revs. Might trade for some revs and potions.
    One question - How will I be feeding Sinister's power with Ultron and Warlock?
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Sergeant_ said:

    Sergeant_ said:

    Damn congrats on finishing 6.2 and awakening that 6* Colossus!

    I've been putting off 6.2 for like 3 months now. Just been ranking champs to make my roster a lil bit more stronger. That being said, do you think I'm ready for 6.2 roster-wise @BitterSteel ?




    The only 6*s I'm gonna use are Ultron (if I need him), Sym Supreme and Heimdall.


    Right so I can’t say anything skill wise, you know what level of skill you are so you just need to be honest with yourself about that. Revives can obviously balance out skill, so grinding some out beforehand will be very helpful either way

    In terms of roadblocks, here’s what you need roster wise. I’ll do the first 3 quests, then let me know if you’d like further advice when you get there :)

    6.2.1
    I’d recommend the path starting with Kamala Khan
    Life cycle counter - you have archangel, torch pre fight, warlock. Save torch for the dormammu mini boss
    Sym counter - use Spidey 2099 imo

    6.2.2
    I’d recommend going the path starting with gwenpool with biohazard
    Backblast counter - you have warlock and colossus who will do well. Just be careful with warlock if he crits too hard he’ll be incinerated
    Sinister counter - warlock with the heimdall synergy with Angela is the best option for you probably. You don’t want to bring ultron AND warlock though, because that’ll give them a synergy that constantly gives you furies and will feed Sinister’s power. So pick one.
    Team: colossus, warlock/ultron, heimdall, Angela, then Ibom I’d say.

    6.2.3
    I’d recommend going left, all the way until masacre, then go right to cap ww2. That’s the easiest path imo
    Icarus counter - Corvus will do a lot for you and you can get 3 charges on the path. Falcon will also be quite good at keeping furies off yourself. Spidey 2099 is immune to buffs if you want to avoid the node completely. There’s a tough emma frost to deal with since you can’t heavy attack her, Spidey would be good here.

    Corvus will wreck the boss with a cosmic power boost.


    Hope this helps :)
    Thx a ton for this! I have about 6 lvl 1 revs, 12 lvl 2 revs and 3 lvl 3 revs. Might trade for some revs and potions.
    One question - How will I be feeding Sinister's power with Ultron and Warlock?
    He has prey on the weak, which means he gets power every time a buff expires or is nullified. Ultron synergy with warlock lets them get a fury buff every time they're immune to something, in this case the poisons. Unfortunately, each poison causing a new fury buff to trigger also counts as it expiring, so it feeds his prey on the weak.

    https://youtu.be/MIL5x1mdsYY

    Here's an example of my nebula with that synergy, see how the power goes up a lot.

    It's definitely possible to use it, but really, since you have heimdall and Angela it'll just be better to use that synergy
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