Regarding Brian Grant’s Most Recent Video

TheLegend27

Possible hot take: the current gifting event is really dumb... But guess Kabam has to make their money in some way.

Regardless, I say let people go for it if they really want to waste their life by grinding 8 hours a day on multiple devices. Obviously, if bots/piloting/some other TOS violation is detected then go ahead and ban.

Gmonkey

Graves_3 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

I'm still on the fence with this one. It's been a legitimate action since these Events started. Personally, I have one Account. However, I'm not convinced it's a major issue. If someone has that much time and energy on their hands, it's really not affecting me.
The other side of it is I could see how it could be milked. I'm just not completely convinced it's unfair. I think this has more to do with the "competitiveness of F2P" than anything. Which BG is concerned with. I'm not of the same mindset of F2P/P2P, or any comparison or competition therein. I think there's way too much stock invested in that pride.
I suppose I'm cool either way. If something is actually egregious or unfair in an imbalancing way, I'm all for action. If it's just because of having eyes on the plates of others, meh.

I 100% agree with this. People in top alliances already spend a lot of money or grind their life away to stay at the top. This hardly matters to them. Everyone else who is not as competitive is hardly going to be affected by a couple of hundred people gifting themselves from their alt accounts. Bots existed in the past and they still do. Whether they farm 50k units or 200k units, it really doesn’t affect me or my game progression in any way.
If someone wants to grind non stop for the next 45 days to gift themselves GGC, so be it. Why should this be a problem?
And really interested to know how this upsets game balance? I have heard people fighting that SoP by handing out t5cc to cavalier players really upset game balance. But we are still here. And the game is still here. What balance did it upset and how is this event going to do it yet again?

This will be slightly better than two weeks of high tier aq rewards and 5-7 six stars. Once you get over 130 six stars most pulls are just dupes. If someone wants to spend their time grinding away good for them, I have better things to do with my life.

Adevati

If gifting is nerfed, I’m done with the game.

That will be the goal post moving that broke the camels back for me.

That said, these changes make it too easy to get units. Kabam needs to spread the units out by adding more to later acts. Then, greatly reduce the lower tier unit packages to offset the lower units a true new player would have.

Texas_11

Kam just did a pretty good breakdown of this.

Anyone have the link?

AverageDesi

https://t.co/GuBIVqG6rC?amp=1

Texas_11

https://mobile.twitter.com/kammcoc/status/1460626431868874754

For those who read at work.

I'm sure @DNA3000 would appreciate the write you.

Malreck04

Graves_3 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

I'm still on the fence with this one. It's been a legitimate action since these Events started. Personally, I have one Account. However, I'm not convinced it's a major issue. If someone has that much time and energy on their hands, it's really not affecting me.
The other side of it is I could see how it could be milked. I'm just not completely convinced it's unfair. I think this has more to do with the "competitiveness of F2P" than anything. Which BG is concerned with. I'm not of the same mindset of F2P/P2P, or any comparison or competition therein. I think there's way too much stock invested in that pride.
I suppose I'm cool either way. If something is actually egregious or unfair in an imbalancing way, I'm all for action. If it's just because of having eyes on the plates of others, meh.

I 100% agree with this. People in top alliances already spend a lot of money or grind their life away to stay at the top. This hardly matters to them. Everyone else who is not as competitive is hardly going to be affected by a couple of hundred people gifting themselves from their alt accounts. Bots existed in the past and they still do. Whether they farm 50k units or 200k units, it really doesn’t affect me or my game progression in any way.
If someone wants to grind non stop for the next 45 days to gift themselves GGC, so be it. Why should this be a problem?
And really interested to know how this upsets game balance? I have heard people fighting that SoP by handing out t5cc to cavalier players really upset game balance. But we are still here. And the game is still here. What balance did it upset and how is this event going to do it yet again?

For real, all arguments about game “balance” and game “health” are just stupid IMO, majority of the players don’t play competitive AW and there are already huge balance issues for those who do.

TheCaptain412

My weird two cents on this:

I created an account in August 2020 intended to be my main. Being new, I did dumb stuff, primarily using units to buy PHCs, and eventually, I created a second account in September 2020 that became my main, and I mothballed the first account.

In April this year, my alliance had some turnover and I brought my “first” account, now my mini, into the group, where I ran both accounts for six months or so. Last month, sensing this was not healthy for me and it was taking over my life, I shelved the mini yet again. As of today, it has 7K units, 500K battlechips waiting to be cracked, is Level 43, and has completed Act 4 (having done all of it before the recent changes).

Some people are saying that if it isn’t Level 55 (or even 45) or isn’t Uncollected, then I shouldn’t be allowed to drain every last unit from it and gift my main all of it, even though I earned those units 100% legitimately through a year’s work.

Agree that the new accounts farming units from the revamped early content need to be considered, but not all “alt” accounts are equal.

TyDollarSign

Pardon me if this has already been said, I did as much reading as I could. But why can't the solution be to simply change how gifting works? Why not allow players to buy the gifting crystals and choose to keep them or gift them? Personally, I'm in an alliance where there is not Line communication and I don't really know any of them, it's just chill and laidback to gain AQ resources/etc. But I don't necessarily feel comfortable gifting any of them crystals and actually have faith in receiving some back.

I think gifting throughout the community is nice in theory, but it has not and will not ever be used as a true community-builder. It is purely always about the rewards. So why not actually just change how the event works entirely? Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but just my thoughts.

Daddrieda

AverageDesi said:

Daddrieda said:

I found his mail name was more funny “[email protected]” , but that also means that kabam ID system are flawed if a user is able to just write in random name and kabam don’t have any way to confirm this mail name exist.

It was just trolling. You can't create non existent emails

Oh... I got trolled hard then.

AverageDesi

Daddrieda said:

AverageDesi said:

Daddrieda said:

I found his mail name was more funny “[email protected]” , but that also means that kabam ID system are flawed if a user is able to just write in random name and kabam don’t have any way to confirm this mail name exist.

It was just trolling. You can't create non existent emails

Oh... I got trolled hard then.

Nope. You were right. You can create pretty much anything for email. @Daddrieda

Zan0

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

Graves_3

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

Those who spend 1000$ do so because they think their time is worth more than the money. People who are farming for these units are not the ones who were or are going to spend more than 5-10$

GOT86

This doesn't seem like anything that needs to be addressed or fixed. It is something anyone could do if they wanted to put in the effort. If someone wants to work 2 jobs to make more money do we need to create a limit that a person can only work one job to make it fair to those unwilling to work a second job?

Typhoon

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

So do that then and stop complaining. Unless you're the CFO for Kabam, why are you so bothered? We've had input issues for months and that didn't stop the game. You think a gifting event is going to suddenly break everything?

Llessur

Hoitado said:

I have to admit that he makes Great Points. Being able to Farm that many Units to gift yourself is absurd. It’s a tricky situation for Kabam too because they can’t tell which accounts are Alts and which aren’t.

I think a simple solution would be to have a creation restriction. Essentially you can only gift if your account has been live for a certain amount of time.

I’m sure I’ve overlooked something’s but this is off the top of my head.

What are your thoughts and solutions?

Video for Reference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VRDz_U5dyTc

Unrelated how do I make a second account on my device

Zan0

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

So do that then and stop complaining. Unless you're the CFO for Kabam, why are you so bothered?

Anyone who thinks this should be allowed is not thinking about the health of the game at all. I care about this game and want it to continue that’s why I’m “complaining”

Typhoon

Zan0 said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

So do that then and stop complaining. Unless you're the CFO for Kabam, why are you so bothered?

Anyone who thinks this should be allowed is not thinking about the health of the game at all. I care about this game and want it to continue that’s why I’m “complaining”

Leave the "health of the game" decisions to Kabam. You're wasting your energy on something you cannot control.

Hoitado

Llessur said:

Hoitado said:

I have to admit that he makes Great Points. Being able to Farm that many Units to gift yourself is absurd. It’s a tricky situation for Kabam too because they can’t tell which accounts are Alts and which aren’t.

I think a simple solution would be to have a creation restriction. Essentially you can only gift if your account has been live for a certain amount of time.

I’m sure I’ve overlooked something’s but this is off the top of my head.

What are your thoughts and solutions?

Video for Reference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VRDz_U5dyTc

Unrelated how do I make a second account on my device

Lmfao

-You sign out of your main
-Go to Log In
-Press Create Account
-Use a new email
-Create it and Enjoy

BitterSteel

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

So do that then and stop complaining. Unless you're the CFO for Kabam, why are you so bothered?

Anyone who thinks this should be allowed is not thinking about the health of the game at all. I care about this game and want it to continue that’s why I’m “complaining”

Leave the "health of the game" decisions to Kabam. You're wasting your energy on something you cannot control.

You want people to not discuss a part of the game, on a forum that is entirely devoted to discussing the game. It’s almost as though you just don’t want people offering opinions that don’t agree with you.

I didn’t see you saying that the poster who wrote that open letter should leave the health of the game decisions to Kabam. Were they wasting their time?

Typhoon

BitterSteel said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

So do that then and stop complaining. Unless you're the CFO for Kabam, why are you so bothered?

Anyone who thinks this should be allowed is not thinking about the health of the game at all. I care about this game and want it to continue that’s why I’m “complaining”

Leave the "health of the game" decisions to Kabam. You're wasting your energy on something you cannot control.

You want people to not discuss a part of the game, on a forum that is entirely devoted to discussing the game. It’s almost as though you just don’t want people offering opinions that don’t agree with you.

I didn’t see you saying that the poster who wrote that open letter should leave the health of the game decisions to Kabam. Were they wasting their time?

Yet here you are, arguing right back at everyone who doesn't agree with you about how "bad" this "potentially" is for the game. Get over yourself

Hoitado

Typhoon said:

BitterSteel said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

So do that then and stop complaining. Unless you're the CFO for Kabam, why are you so bothered?

Anyone who thinks this should be allowed is not thinking about the health of the game at all. I care about this game and want it to continue that’s why I’m “complaining”

Leave the "health of the game" decisions to Kabam. You're wasting your energy on something you cannot control.

You want people to not discuss a part of the game, on a forum that is entirely devoted to discussing the game. It’s almost as though you just don’t want people offering opinions that don’t agree with you.

I didn’t see you saying that the poster who wrote that open letter should leave the health of the game decisions to Kabam. Were they wasting their time?

Yet here you are, arguing right back at everyone who doesn't agree with you about how "bad" this "potentially" is for the game. Get over yourself

People are entitled to their own Opinions.

Although I don’t believe Kabam will do anything about it, it doesn’t hurt to voice my opinion

Typhoon

Hoitado said:

Typhoon said:

BitterSteel said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

So do that then and stop complaining. Unless you're the CFO for Kabam, why are you so bothered?

Anyone who thinks this should be allowed is not thinking about the health of the game at all. I care about this game and want it to continue that’s why I’m “complaining”

Leave the "health of the game" decisions to Kabam. You're wasting your energy on something you cannot control.

You want people to not discuss a part of the game, on a forum that is entirely devoted to discussing the game. It’s almost as though you just don’t want people offering opinions that don’t agree with you.

I didn’t see you saying that the poster who wrote that open letter should leave the health of the game decisions to Kabam. Were they wasting their time?

Yet here you are, arguing right back at everyone who doesn't agree with you about how "bad" this "potentially" is for the game. Get over yourself

People are entitled to their own Opinions.

Although I don’t believe Kabam will do anything about it, it doesn’t hurt to voice my opinion

I agree that you are entitled to voice your own opinion.

BitterSteel

Typhoon said:

BitterSteel said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

So do that then and stop complaining. Unless you're the CFO for Kabam, why are you so bothered?

Anyone who thinks this should be allowed is not thinking about the health of the game at all. I care about this game and want it to continue that’s why I’m “complaining”

Leave the "health of the game" decisions to Kabam. You're wasting your energy on something you cannot control.

You want people to not discuss a part of the game, on a forum that is entirely devoted to discussing the game. It’s almost as though you just don’t want people offering opinions that don’t agree with you.

I didn’t see you saying that the poster who wrote that open letter should leave the health of the game decisions to Kabam. Were they wasting their time?

Yet here you are, arguing right back at everyone who doesn't agree with you about how "bad" this "potentially" is for the game. Get over yourself

…yeah, I’m discussing it. Without telling people to stop discussing it - I.e. the point of a forum.

I’m open to being wrong, if Kabam come and say “hey guys, we’ve thought about this and it’s absolutely fine and can go ahead.” Then I trust their judgement on what’s best for the game.

Or would you rather me just tell you to stop talking about this subject, and to get over yourself?

TimestoneAdarsH

Making Gifting to higher Lvl would be bad cuz there will be low level legit player who want to gift .As of the video,no one can do 45×3×6.

thepiggy

This isn't Marvel Contest of Farming. If you can gain more rewards farming Act 2 instead of Masters, first place AQ, and Act 7 combined, then nothing matters anymore and game economy is dead.

Letting this go is the same as printing 100 trillion dollars and expecting no decrease in the value of a dollar.

Zan0

Typhoon said:

BitterSteel said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

Typhoon said:

Zan0 said:

It’s honestly baffling that people can’t see the issue. Anyone who has ever grinded arena for units knows that this is extremely ridiculous amounts of them. And they all say time = money but I’d say it’s more effort = money and this takes little to no effort. And this absolutely affects the revenue stream for kabam because why would any sane player spend on gifting when you can just create 10 accounts and get units worth a 1000$

So do that then and stop complaining. Unless you're the CFO for Kabam, why are you so bothered?

Anyone who thinks this should be allowed is not thinking about the health of the game at all. I care about this game and want it to continue that’s why I’m “complaining”

Leave the "health of the game" decisions to Kabam. You're wasting your energy on something you cannot control.

You want people to not discuss a part of the game, on a forum that is entirely devoted to discussing the game. It’s almost as though you just don’t want people offering opinions that don’t agree with you.

I didn’t see you saying that the poster who wrote that open letter should leave the health of the game decisions to Kabam. Were they wasting their time?

Yet here you are, arguing right back at everyone who doesn't agree with you about how "bad" this "potentially" is for the game. Get over yourself

You really need to get over yourself

Aryman

Zan0 said:

Anyone who thinks this should be allowed is not thinking about the health of the game at all. I care about this game and want it to continue that’s why I’m “complaining”

But do you realize that this is not the first year when farming like that is possible? The game looks like it looks NOT for that reason. Do you think how many people will spend whole days for a month or longer to farm like that? The average gamer won't even see Brian's film, because they dont care about whats going on. They just playing for fun, and they are happy when they can receive the gifting crystal. Do you want to take this fun from them, because you care about the "health of the game" that is not even related to the topic of gifting, or you spent too much and you hate to see that once a year the average player can easily gain some revives / refils or crystals? Take a break dude.