Idiots. How anyone at Kabam is still employed is beyond me. I used to spend so much on this game, now I give them nothing. I’d encourage everyone to do the same because this is just a joke and classic response from Kabam.
So they address nearly every single concern people have with the mode, promise to add systems that would make the whole game mode way better, and your response is to call them idiots? lol ok
Nothing against you mate but lol and a year from now they will still be “address it” have fun drinking that cool aid. Let me know when those “promises” get fulfilled and the game mode gets “way better” *insert clown gif.
If the gist of your feedback is that nothing they say matters because nothing they ultimately do matters, why are you still here?
It is one thing to complain about something because you believe it can and hopefully will get better. But complaining about something just to complain about it with the attitude that nothing will ever be acknowledged as resolving the complaint is nonsensical. Doing it just to try to convince others to join you in your misery is pathological.
I'll believe it will get better when I see it get better. I see what's there, not what I want to see. But if I thought the devs were not honorable actors or had no capability of solving problems, I would be wasting my time either complaining about them or suggesting solutions. That would make me the idiot, along with everyone else doing the same thing under the same preconceptions.
You can all help us by reporting suspicious matches using the in-game report function. Please however do not report every account you lose to. There is a group of players who are doing this, and it is thoroughly unhelpful.
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You guys should punish those doing this. Send a warning after someone reports let's say like 5 times in a 24 hour period. If they do it again, they get a 24 ban that escalates if they continue to do so.
I have faced my fair share of cheaters, just like everyone, but rarely more than 1 or 2 times a day, and sometimes none for weeks.
I don't want to be someone screaming for compensation...but there are many players who especially this season are experiencing bugs prohibiting them from even starting their fight, not even giving them a chance to win the round. I 100% should never have won this match, i played my fight horribly, all the guy needed was to knock off not even 20% health to win, yet he was unable. He lost rewards because of this and i undeservingly gained them. I don't want to progress because my opponent couldn't even play, and this affects hundreds of summoners every day, greatly justifying nice compensation, which i don't believe was brought up in this post. Maybe i missed it but it does need to be carefully considered on Kabam's behalf
Good point. This is the statement:
“The Team has been hard at work resolving these issues and are even working to both implement new tech to make it easier to identify and reproduce these issues internally and to ultimately address them as soon as we can. Fixing bugs in Battlegrounds is a major priority for us.”
The list provided comprises seven different types of bugs. These have been problems since all of last season. For the first time this season, I encountered the bug where my first picks are auto-selected this afternoon—but otherwise my technical issues have been dropped inputs and lag (still on the Trello list as overarching bugs).
Question to the team: why is there no mention of relief for BG bugs in a fairly lengthy post?
There won't be any posotove outoput if you keep banning cheaters for 1 week instead of permanent bans.. start with this, and you will see how your cheater problem is resolved.
Unless the reason you are not implementing this is not the best $$$ version for you.
Regarding Matchmaking: your hope is once the Seeding System is in place, the Victory Track and matchmaker will be structured to ensure any player who climbs the Victory Track and/or reaches the Gladiator’s Circuit deserves to be there and didn’t reach those heights stomping on smaller accounts.
I *think* what they are saying is that in their view, track ~= rating. If you are in Bronze 3 and win a couple, you're now in Bronze 2 and will no longer match against Bronze 3 (there is some overlap in matching to make sure the match maker actually finds a match, but let's set that aside for simplicity here). If the point of ELO matching is for winners to face winners and loser to face losers, so the stronger players must eventually face the other stronger players and cannot simply beat weaker players to rise, then Kabam is saying Bronze 3, Bronze 2, Bronze 1, etc, are essentially the same thing. Instead of matching ELO 1000 against ELO 1000, we match Bronze 3 vs Bronze 3, Gold 1 vs Gold 1, etc.
They are saying in their view the primary problem with this idea is that everyone starts every season in Bronze 3, which means for a few weeks we don't have winners facing winners, because until players start to win and move up in tracks there's a wild everyone vs everyone situation, which they have tried to mitigate with roster matching. I *think* their strategy is to use progress preservation to prestart players in higher tiers relative to their previous final standings, which is an approximate measure of how strong they are. Maybe this means roster matching would then be less necessary, or maybe roster matching will have less deleterious effects (in their view, not mine).
Again, this is *my* interpretation of what they are saying. Basically, matching by track is like matching by ELO, except at the start of the season. Fix the start of the season with staggered start placement so the stronger players aren't in the same starting track as the weaker players, and we don't have to worry about them matching against each other initially, and if they match against each other later in the season it will be because the weaker players make it to the higher tiers, implying they got stronger.
Call this "ELO-lite." It has some properties of ELO, but lacks others. In my view, it does not directly address the issues with roster matching, although it might soften the problem a bit. It assumes staggered start will automatically solve progression issues that I'm not sure I would bet on, although I cannot say it won't - just that if it does it will do so more coincidentally than structurally in my opinion.
It feels a little too "magic bullet-y" to me. But it is definitely a step in the right direction. It directly addresses one of my Fs, attempts to solve another one of my Fs, and (in my opinion) kinda dances around the third one and hopes we don't notice.
Still, if you include bugs and cheating, Kabam has at least acknowledged all the fundamental problems most players have complained about, and have asserted work in every area to start mitigating or resolving them. That's about as good as we could expect for now, and we just need to see how the actual rubber meets the road when these things start to bear fruit.
And I agree with others who say that it is not just about the what, it is also about the when. All this should have happened yesterday. But we are where we are, and speed is not something that's really negotiable. Things will happen as fast as they can happen. Game developers cannot just divert impulse power to the warp drive to go faster, unfortunately.
Idiots. How anyone at Kabam is still employed is beyond me. I used to spend so much on this game, now I give them nothing. I’d encourage everyone to do the same because this is just a joke and classic response from Kabam.
So they address nearly every single concern people have with the mode, promise to add systems that would make the whole game mode way better, and your response is to call them idiots? lol ok
Nothing against you mate but lol and a year from now they will still be “address it” have fun drinking that cool aid. Let me know when those “promises” get fulfilled and the game mode gets “way better” *insert clown gif.
I agree that we need to see results, but the community is already furious with them over BGs and they acknowledge at the end of the posts that the experience in subpar. I think they’ll follow through with this, otherwise they could’ve continued to ignore problems and not make a dev diary.
Some of these apparently require new tech so yeah it’s going to take a bit, but the community will definitely be hounding them over the smaller changes and we’ll see if they’re properly implemented. I also wish this was a post that just said “hey guys, we fixed all the issues now and the game mode is great again” but hey, this is what they have the community
Oh mate, you must be new. They’ve done Dev Dairies and acknowledges problems for a long time, but nothing ever changes. But hey, I’ll digress and chose to believe in what you say that Kabam just needs new tech and once they get it, everything will be fixed. Just know you will continue to get a lot of promises without results.
Idiots. How anyone at Kabam is still employed is beyond me. I used to spend so much on this game, now I give them nothing. I’d encourage everyone to do the same because this is just a joke and classic response from Kabam.
So they address nearly every single concern people have with the mode, promise to add systems that would make the whole game mode way better, and your response is to call them idiots? lol ok
Nothing against you mate but lol and a year from now they will still be “address it” have fun drinking that cool aid. Let me know when those “promises” get fulfilled and the game mode gets “way better” *insert clown gif.
If the gist of your feedback is that nothing they say matters because nothing they ultimately do matters, why are you still here?
It is one thing to complain about something because you believe it can and hopefully will get better. But complaining about something just to complain about it with the attitude that nothing will ever be acknowledged as resolving the complaint is nonsensical. Doing it just to try to convince others to join you in your misery is pathological.
I'll believe it will get better when I see it get better. I see what's there, not what I want to see. But if I thought the devs were not honorable actors or had no capability of solving problems, I would be wasting my time either complaining about them or suggesting solutions. That would make me the idiot, along with everyone else doing the same thing under the same preconceptions.
Shesh, this was a book 😂 I’m not complaining. Just stating that promises have been made before and nothing gets better. I stopped spending and I’m happier with the game. I’ve just accepted it for what it is. Kabam has idiotic responses and unfulfilled promises, but it is what it is.
Idiots. How anyone at Kabam is still employed is beyond me. I used to spend so much on this game, now I give them nothing. I’d encourage everyone to do the same because this is just a joke and classic response from Kabam.
So they address nearly every single concern people have with the mode, promise to add systems that would make the whole game mode way better, and your response is to call them idiots? lol ok
Nothing against you mate but lol and a year from now they will still be “address it” have fun drinking that cool aid. Let me know when those “promises” get fulfilled and the game mode gets “way better” *insert clown gif.
If the gist of your feedback is that nothing they say matters because nothing they ultimately do matters, why are you still here?
It is one thing to complain about something because you believe it can and hopefully will get better. But complaining about something just to complain about it with the attitude that nothing will ever be acknowledged as resolving the complaint is nonsensical. Doing it just to try to convince others to join you in your misery is pathological.
I'll believe it will get better when I see it get better. I see what's there, not what I want to see. But if I thought the devs were not honorable actors or had no capability of solving problems, I would be wasting my time either complaining about them or suggesting solutions. That would make me the idiot, along with everyone else doing the same thing under the same preconceptions.
Shesh, this was a book 😂 I’m not complaining. Just stating that promises have been made before and nothing gets better. I stopped spending and I’m happier with the game. I’ve just accepted it for what it is. Kabam has idiotic responses and unfulfilled promises, but it is what it is.
To try to keep this to just pamphlet length, what part of this particular response was "idiotic?"
It's a response. I appreciate and respect that. Regardless of the outcome, they're in a no-win situation when it comes to communicating. They don't say anything, they're ignoring the issues. They say something, it's empty promises or too late or vague or manufactured or whatever else the response. At some point, you have to acknowledge that communication is a two-way street. When they make an effort, we can't just flip the bird at it.
Idiots. How anyone at Kabam is still employed is beyond me. I used to spend so much on this game, now I give them nothing. I’d encourage everyone to do the same because this is just a joke and classic response from Kabam.
So they address nearly every single concern people have with the mode, promise to add systems that would make the whole game mode way better, and your response is to call them idiots? lol ok
Nothing against you mate but lol and a year from now they will still be “address it” have fun drinking that cool aid. Let me know when those “promises” get fulfilled and the game mode gets “way better” *insert clown gif.
If the gist of your feedback is that nothing they say matters because nothing they ultimately do matters, why are you still here?
It is one thing to complain about something because you believe it can and hopefully will get better. But complaining about something just to complain about it with the attitude that nothing will ever be acknowledged as resolving the complaint is nonsensical. Doing it just to try to convince others to join you in your misery is pathological.
I'll believe it will get better when I see it get better. I see what's there, not what I want to see. But if I thought the devs were not honorable actors or had no capability of solving problems, I would be wasting my time either complaining about them or suggesting solutions. That would make me the idiot, along with everyone else doing the same thing under the same preconceptions.
Shesh, this was a book 😂 I’m not complaining. Just stating that promises have been made before and nothing gets better. I stopped spending and I’m happier with the game. I’ve just accepted it for what it is. Kabam has idiotic responses and unfulfilled promises, but it is what it is.
Can you name a few of these unfulfilled promises as well?
Idiots. How anyone at Kabam is still employed is beyond me. I used to spend so much on this game, now I give them nothing. I’d encourage everyone to do the same because this is just a joke and classic response from Kabam.
So they address nearly every single concern people have with the mode, promise to add systems that would make the whole game mode way better, and your response is to call them idiots? lol ok
Nothing against you mate but lol and a year from now they will still be “address it” have fun drinking that cool aid. Let me know when those “promises” get fulfilled and the game mode gets “way better” *insert clown gif.
I agree that we need to see results, but the community is already furious with them over BGs and they acknowledge at the end of the posts that the experience in subpar. I think they’ll follow through with this, otherwise they could’ve continued to ignore problems and not make a dev diary.
Some of these apparently require new tech so yeah it’s going to take a bit, but the community will definitely be hounding them over the smaller changes and we’ll see if they’re properly implemented. I also wish this was a post that just said “hey guys, we fixed all the issues now and the game mode is great again” but hey, this is what they have the community
Oh mate, you must be new. They’ve done Dev Dairies and acknowledges problems for a long time, but nothing ever changes.
Nothing? That's an incredible exaggeration. The vast majority of stuff mentioned in various Dev diaries and other discussions have either been directly implemented or indirectly adddressed with other downstream game changes.
I should point out we're talking about problems in a game mode that didn't exist a year ago, with a reward structure unheard of a year ago, prompting players to rank up champions they never thought they would be playing before, in an environment where champs are being constantly buffed and rebalanced at a higher sustained pace than ever before, on the verge of all new roster progression being added, in an environment where players have vastly more control over the champs they acquire via crystals with better options than have ever existed. AQ is simpler and less stressful, AW is cheaper and less punishing, higher progression materials have rapidly accelerated in availability pretty much everywhere, and QoL improvements dropping from the sky are a regular occurrence.
It's a response. I appreciate and respect that. Regardless of the outcome, they're in a no-win situation when it comes to communicating. They don't say anything, they're ignoring the issues. They say something, it's empty promises or too late or vague or manufactured or whatever else the response. At some point, you have to acknowledge that communication is a two-way street. When they make an effort, we can't just flip the bird at it.
I’d like to comment on this because this is an issue I’ve had with communication both here and with my job and such. While I understand the no communication means no updates approach, for some people, including me, even saying that there is no update every now and then goes a long way. It shows that there is still work being done and the issues hasn’t been forgotten. Once a month could be a good starting point, but there have been times when things have been discussed or mentioned and after that it goes radio silent until the mods respond to something in a thread.
Idiots. How anyone at Kabam is still employed is beyond me. I used to spend so much on this game, now I give them nothing. I’d encourage everyone to do the same because this is just a joke and classic response from Kabam.
So they address nearly every single concern people have with the mode, promise to add systems that would make the whole game mode way better, and your response is to call them idiots? lol ok
Nothing against you mate but lol and a year from now they will still be “address it” have fun drinking that cool aid. Let me know when those “promises” get fulfilled and the game mode gets “way better” *insert clown gif.
I agree that we need to see results, but the community is already furious with them over BGs and they acknowledge at the end of the posts that the experience in subpar. I think they’ll follow through with this, otherwise they could’ve continued to ignore problems and not make a dev diary.
Some of these apparently require new tech so yeah it’s going to take a bit, but the community will definitely be hounding them over the smaller changes and we’ll see if they’re properly implemented. I also wish this was a post that just said “hey guys, we fixed all the issues now and the game mode is great again” but hey, this is what they have the community
Oh mate, you must be new. They’ve done Dev Dairies and acknowledges problems for a long time, but nothing ever changes. But hey, I’ll digress and chose to believe in what you say that Kabam just needs new tech and once they get it, everything will be fixed. Just know you will continue to get a lot of promises without results.
What exactly have they not changed? They nerfed act 6 like they promised and their original roadmap fulfilled 90% of what it promised. The only thing we’re still waiting on is masteries 2.0 but they changed other stuff that they promised to do
I think this is the type of communication we were all looking for. An open and honest account that defines what the current issues are and what the actions are to resolve them. I wrote in one of the many threads about BG’s asking for communication and acknowledged fixes would take time. I think I was hoping that some mitigation would happen this whilst the long term changes were implemented over the next few seasons. The game mode seams to be in a worse state from when I stopped playing 4 weeks ago, so at least until the changes are implemented in a few seasons time I’ll stay retired. Game was far to demoralising when I last played it doesn’t feel like at the moment there will be changes to the game will make it less demoralising.
Kabam, open dialogue like this are what we need more of.
It's a response. I appreciate and respect that. Regardless of the outcome, they're in a no-win situation when it comes to communicating. They don't say anything, they're ignoring the issues. They say something, it's empty promises or too late or vague or manufactured or whatever else the response. At some point, you have to acknowledge that communication is a two-way street. When they make an effort, we can't just flip the bird at it.
I’d like to comment on this because this is an issue I’ve had with communication both here and with my job and such. While I understand the no communication means no updates approach, for some people, including me, even saying that there is no update every now and then goes a long way. It shows that there is still work being done and the issues hasn’t been forgotten. Once a month could be a good starting point, but there have been times when things have been discussed or mentioned and after that it goes radio silent until the mods respond to something in a thread.
This is more difficult than it sounds, because frankly it is no one's job to do this. The devs don't have an alarm clock that goes off periodically to ask them to provide updates on what they are doing (and I would rather shoot myself in the head than function like that in general), and the moderators' job is to moderate, not specifically drive the conversations.
What you're describing is the kind of thing that a player advocacy position would try to take care of. Sometimes this is done internally with an official position, and sometimes this is done with a player advocacy representative or representatives from the player community empowered to communicate directly with the developers and report back on issues of interest.
This is a tricky task to perform because no matter where such a person comes from, they must be capable of representing the interests the player community without regard to their own biases or predispositions, and must also be capable of communicating with the developers on their own terms and providing feedback to the players within the limits that Kabam places on that communication while maintaining credibility on both sides. This is balancing a pencil tip on another pencil tip.
It is not a bad idea, but I don't know if that's the sort of thing Kabam is interested in doing.
I appreciate the update. Though not even close to all the other problems (and not even a problem or concern for others), but I was really hoping that they were announcing that our victory shields were rolling over until we lost a match.
It's a response. I appreciate and respect that. Regardless of the outcome, they're in a no-win situation when it comes to communicating. They don't say anything, they're ignoring the issues. They say something, it's empty promises or too late or vague or manufactured or whatever else the response. At some point, you have to acknowledge that communication is a two-way street. When they make an effort, we can't just flip the bird at it.
I’d like to comment on this because this is an issue I’ve had with communication both here and with my job and such. While I understand the no communication means no updates approach, for some people, including me, even saying that there is no update every now and then goes a long way. It shows that there is still work being done and the issues hasn’t been forgotten. Once a month could be a good starting point, but there have been times when things have been discussed or mentioned and after that it goes radio silent until the mods respond to something in a thread.
This is more difficult than it sounds, because frankly it is no one's job to do this. The devs don't have an alarm clock that goes off periodically to ask them to provide updates on what they are doing (and I would rather shoot myself in the head than function like that in general), and the moderators' job is to moderate, not specifically drive the conversations.
What you're describing is the kind of thing that a player advocacy position would try to take care of. Sometimes this is done internally with an official position, and sometimes this is done with a player advocacy representative or representatives from the player community empowered to communicate directly with the developers and report back on issues of interest.
This is a tricky task to perform because no matter where such a person comes from, they must be capable of representing the interests the player community without regard to their own biases or predispositions, and must also be capable of communicating with the developers on their own terms and providing feedback to the players within the limits that Kabam places on that communication while maintaining credibility on both sides. This is balancing a pencil tip on another pencil tip.
It is not a bad idea, but I don't know if that's the sort of thing Kabam is interested in doing.
Just make sure to permanently ban cheaters, mercs (and their customers), detected bots use and modders every time you catch one ! That will not completely stop cheaters but those having big account will surely twice before cheating, doing merc or asking help from a merc as they will definitely loose the account !
A zero tolerance might be the answer considering the number of cheaters.
What does the pausing exploit do? Is there a way to tell if someone you’re facing is doing it? I’ve never heard of it until recently & I’ve been doing Battle Grounds competitively since Season 2. Also, thanks for looking into all the BattleGrounds related issues @Kabam
What does the pausing exploit do? Is there a way to tell if someone you’re facing is doing it? I’ve never heard of it until recently & I’ve been doing Battle Grounds competitively since Season 2. Also, thanks for looking into all the BattleGrounds related issues @Kabam
In most metas does nothing else other than guarantee a sure loss. Now in some difficult metas, some people were using it to get at least 15k points and hope their opponent mess their fight. Descent players consider “pausers” always an easy win, since they always score above 15k points in any meta. As for Kabam’s announcement, it’s a good move to the right direction, but things need to change fast. Battlegrounds at the moment aren’t a good experience for many players.
Idiots. How anyone at Kabam is still employed is beyond me. I used to spend so much on this game, now I give them nothing. I’d encourage everyone to do the same because this is just a joke and classic response from Kabam.
So they address nearly every single concern people have with the mode, promise to add systems that would make the whole game mode way better, and your response is to call them idiots? lol ok
Nothing against you mate but lol and a year from now they will still be “address it” have fun drinking that cool aid. Let me know when those “promises” get fulfilled and the game mode gets “way better” *insert clown gif.
I agree that we need to see results, but the community is already furious with them over BGs and they acknowledge at the end of the posts that the experience in subpar. I think they’ll follow through with this, otherwise they could’ve continued to ignore problems and not make a dev diary.
Some of these apparently require new tech so yeah it’s going to take a bit, but the community will definitely be hounding them over the smaller changes and we’ll see if they’re properly implemented. I also wish this was a post that just said “hey guys, we fixed all the issues now and the game mode is great again” but hey, this is what they have the community
It feels like they'll just do nothing or small tweaks or as long as they can before any real changes. It's been garbage for 5 seasons and it's not gonna change for 3 or more seasons. That's even assuming that what they do actually works, which is usually a losing bet with them.
Does this mean if someone finished in GC, they will start next season in Vibranium ?? If that is the case then it kind of defeats the purpose of Victory Tracks as a significant number of players who care about BGs somehow manage to end up in GC by the end of week 4
Better option might be to allow Paragons to start from Gold, TB & Cavalier from Silver, Uncollected & lower in Bronze
Players should still be made to CLIMB some tiers to reach GC even if they are big Paragons
Lost of this and thats but no real solutions. Seems like all the suggestions in other threads just got ignored because it wont fit in with the earnings model
What about the losses we faced due to modders in all these seasons ??
Why not permanent ban on cheaters, if not permanent ban then you guys are promoting cheating as you guys don't want to lose your player base even if they are cheaters.
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It is one thing to complain about something because you believe it can and hopefully will get better. But complaining about something just to complain about it with the attitude that nothing will ever be acknowledged as resolving the complaint is nonsensical. Doing it just to try to convince others to join you in your misery is pathological.
I'll believe it will get better when I see it get better. I see what's there, not what I want to see. But if I thought the devs were not honorable actors or had no capability of solving problems, I would be wasting my time either complaining about them or suggesting solutions. That would make me the idiot, along with everyone else doing the same thing under the same preconceptions.
I have faced my fair share of cheaters, just like everyone, but rarely more than 1 or 2 times a day, and sometimes none for weeks.
“The Team has been hard at work resolving these issues and are even working to both implement new tech to make it easier to identify and reproduce these issues internally and to ultimately address them as soon as we can. Fixing bugs in Battlegrounds is a major priority for us.”
The list provided comprises seven different types of bugs. These have been problems since all of last season. For the first time this season, I encountered the bug where my first picks are auto-selected this afternoon—but otherwise my technical issues have been dropped inputs and lag (still on the Trello list as overarching bugs).
Question to the team: why is there no mention of relief for BG bugs in a fairly lengthy post?
Dr. Zola
Unless the reason you are not implementing this is not the best $$$ version for you.
They are saying in their view the primary problem with this idea is that everyone starts every season in Bronze 3, which means for a few weeks we don't have winners facing winners, because until players start to win and move up in tracks there's a wild everyone vs everyone situation, which they have tried to mitigate with roster matching. I *think* their strategy is to use progress preservation to prestart players in higher tiers relative to their previous final standings, which is an approximate measure of how strong they are. Maybe this means roster matching would then be less necessary, or maybe roster matching will have less deleterious effects (in their view, not mine).
Again, this is *my* interpretation of what they are saying. Basically, matching by track is like matching by ELO, except at the start of the season. Fix the start of the season with staggered start placement so the stronger players aren't in the same starting track as the weaker players, and we don't have to worry about them matching against each other initially, and if they match against each other later in the season it will be because the weaker players make it to the higher tiers, implying they got stronger.
Call this "ELO-lite." It has some properties of ELO, but lacks others. In my view, it does not directly address the issues with roster matching, although it might soften the problem a bit. It assumes staggered start will automatically solve progression issues that I'm not sure I would bet on, although I cannot say it won't - just that if it does it will do so more coincidentally than structurally in my opinion.
It feels a little too "magic bullet-y" to me. But it is definitely a step in the right direction. It directly addresses one of my Fs, attempts to solve another one of my Fs, and (in my opinion) kinda dances around the third one and hopes we don't notice.
Still, if you include bugs and cheating, Kabam has at least acknowledged all the fundamental problems most players have complained about, and have asserted work in every area to start mitigating or resolving them. That's about as good as we could expect for now, and we just need to see how the actual rubber meets the road when these things start to bear fruit.
And I agree with others who say that it is not just about the what, it is also about the when. All this should have happened yesterday. But we are where we are, and speed is not something that's really negotiable. Things will happen as fast as they can happen. Game developers cannot just divert impulse power to the warp drive to go faster, unfortunately.
I should point out we're talking about problems in a game mode that didn't exist a year ago, with a reward structure unheard of a year ago, prompting players to rank up champions they never thought they would be playing before, in an environment where champs are being constantly buffed and rebalanced at a higher sustained pace than ever before, on the verge of all new roster progression being added, in an environment where players have vastly more control over the champs they acquire via crystals with better options than have ever existed. AQ is simpler and less stressful, AW is cheaper and less punishing, higher progression materials have rapidly accelerated in availability pretty much everywhere, and QoL improvements dropping from the sky are a regular occurrence.
Pretty much everything has changed.
Introduce a 4th scoring criteria "pause" this will award you minus X pts per second paused in the fight
Kabam, open dialogue like this are what we need more of.
What you're describing is the kind of thing that a player advocacy position would try to take care of. Sometimes this is done internally with an official position, and sometimes this is done with a player advocacy representative or representatives from the player community empowered to communicate directly with the developers and report back on issues of interest.
This is a tricky task to perform because no matter where such a person comes from, they must be capable of representing the interests the player community without regard to their own biases or predispositions, and must also be capable of communicating with the developers on their own terms and providing feedback to the players within the limits that Kabam places on that communication while maintaining credibility on both sides. This is balancing a pencil tip on another pencil tip.
It is not a bad idea, but I don't know if that's the sort of thing Kabam is interested in doing.
Thanks for the information, acknowledgement of the communities problems with the game mode and some thoughts on how they might be addressed.
Just don't screw it up!
That will not completely stop cheaters but those having big account will surely twice before cheating, doing merc or asking help from a merc as they will definitely loose the account !
A zero tolerance might be the answer considering the number of cheaters.
Also, thanks for looking into all the BattleGrounds related issues @Kabam
Now in some difficult metas, some people were using it to get at least 15k points and hope their opponent mess their fight.
Descent players consider “pausers” always an easy win, since they always score above 15k points in any meta.
As for Kabam’s announcement, it’s a good move to the right direction, but things need to change fast.
Battlegrounds at the moment aren’t a good experience for many players.
If that is the case then it kind of defeats the purpose of Victory Tracks as a significant number of players who care about BGs somehow manage to end up in GC by the end of week 4
Better option might be to allow Paragons to start from Gold, TB & Cavalier from Silver, Uncollected & lower in Bronze
Players should still be made to CLIMB some tiers to reach GC even if they are big Paragons
Why not permanent ban on cheaters, if not permanent ban then you guys are promoting cheating as you guys don't want to lose your player base even if they are cheaters.