Example: Hype has 0 utility and is rng reliant, Rintrah is way too easy to fight and gets shredded by a couple champs and is a pretty mid attacker, Claire has terrible damage for the amount of utility she has, and bishop is a mid defender and on attack he's pretty slow. And all of these champs are hypes quite a bit
Hyperion is a 2016 champ lol. He is poison immune, he has a reliable regen, power gain, and he can special intercept all day. How does he have no utility? Claire is immune to multiple things depending on need and has fantastic regen and nullify. She doesn't need huge damage. Rintrah is an amazing attacker in the right situations and makes a lot of hard fights easy. No one thinks these champs are amazing for all fights and all situations. They are properly rated.
Hype Im pretty sure you have to throw a sp3 to get regen so i wouldnt call that reliable in bg's or some aw fights and yeah he has 0 utility he cant counter miss or evade or biohazard, he dosent have aa reduction or power control he dosent have good healing, he cant counter unstoppable, or nullify buffs i can go on and on about all the things he dosent have or cant do he is really only okay in fights that dont have any fight changing nodes and even then he's far less than satisfactory because of his complete rng reliance
Claire, her utility really isnt that good and her damage is god awful. So what she can go immune to multiple things thats quite literally ALL she can do her regen sucks because its based on the amount of damage she deals and her damage sucks, her power control sucks unless they only gain power from power gain buffs and if so theres no point of using her posion curse because she would be able to nullify power gain regardless and in situations where they gain power from something other than a buff she cant cycle sp2's fast enough, and finally her fire thingy it simply dosent do enough damage, another thing is if you're doing something that requires her to be in a certain curse you're screwed because if you ever need to switch curses you cant because you'll start dying from whatever you needed the previous curse for rendering her immunites practically useless. But i will say she has one of the best nullifies in the game
Rintrah on attack he's just tanky that just about it he's nothing special not bad just average or slightly above average, second string if you will. ON defense he dosent do anything i struggle to understand why everyone is so afraid of him even the tubers with much bigger accounts than mine he has they easiest specials to dex in the game and all you have to do is knock him down and he's just a normal unremarkable cow
Example: Hype has 0 utility and is rng reliant, Rintrah is way too easy to fight and gets shredded by a couple champs and is a pretty mid attacker, Claire has terrible damage for the amount of utility she has, and bishop is a mid defender and on attack he's pretty slow. And all of these champs are hypes quite a bit
Hyperion is a 2016 champ lol. He is poison immune, he has a reliable regen, power gain, and he can special intercept all day. How does he have no utility? Claire is immune to multiple things depending on need and has fantastic regen and nullify. She doesn't need huge damage. Rintrah is an amazing attacker in the right situations and makes a lot of hard fights easy. No one thinks these champs are amazing for all fights and all situations. They are properly rated.
Hype Im pretty sure you have to throw a sp3 to get regen so i wouldnt call that reliable in bg's or some aw fights and yeah he has 0 utility he cant counter miss or evade or biohazard, he dosent have aa reduction or power control he dosent have good healing, he cant counter unstoppable, or nullify buffs i can go on and on about all the things he dosent have or cant do he is really only okay in fights that dont have any fight changing nodes and even then he's far less than satisfactory because of his complete rng reliance
Claire, her utility really isnt that good and her damage is god awful. So what she can go immune to multiple things thats quite literally ALL she can do her regen sucks because its based on the amount of damage she deals and her damage sucks, her power control sucks unless they only gain power from power gain buffs and if so theres no point of using her posion curse because she would be able to nullify power gain regardless and in situations where they gain power from something other than a buff she cant cycle sp2's fast enough, and finally her fire thingy it simply dosent do enough damage, another thing is if you're doing something that requires her to be in a certain curse you're screwed because if you ever need to switch curses you cant because you'll start dying from whatever you needed the previous curse for rendering her immunites practically useless. But i will say she has one of the best nullifies in the game
Rintrah on attack he's just tanky that just about it he's nothing special not bad just average or slightly above average, second string if you will. ON defense he dosent do anything i struggle to understand why everyone is so afraid of him even the tubers with much bigger accounts than mine he has they easiest specials to dex in the game and all you have to do is knock him down and he's just a normal unremarkable cow
I think Claire’s almost underrated lol, one of my most used champs in 8.2/bgs
Im on global, line, discord, reddit, youtube, everybody hypes up claire to no end but i dont even have to go any further than global, seems like every other time i open the app somebodys hyping claire up
Well those people that are hyping her up are smart then. But pretty much every tier list on YouTube doesn’t have Claire in
Example: Hype has 0 utility and is rng reliant, Rintrah is way too easy to fight and gets shredded by a couple champs and is a pretty mid attacker, Claire has terrible damage for the amount of utility she has, and bishop is a mid defender and on attack he's pretty slow. And all of these champs are hypes quite a bit
Hyperion is a 2016 champ lol. He is poison immune, he has a reliable regen, power gain, and he can special intercept all day. How does he have no utility? Claire is immune to multiple things depending on need and has fantastic regen and nullify. She doesn't need huge damage. Rintrah is an amazing attacker in the right situations and makes a lot of hard fights easy. No one thinks these champs are amazing for all fights and all situations. They are properly rated.
Hype Im pretty sure you have to throw a sp3 to get regen so i wouldnt call that reliable in bg's or some aw fights and yeah he has 0 utility he cant counter miss or evade or biohazard, he dosent have aa reduction or power control he dosent have good healing, he cant counter unstoppable, or nullify buffs i can go on and on about all the things he dosent have or cant do he is really only okay in fights that dont have any fight changing nodes and even then he's far less than satisfactory because of his complete rng reliance
Claire, her utility really isnt that good and her damage is god awful. So what she can go immune to multiple things thats quite literally ALL she can do her regen sucks because its based on the amount of damage she deals and her damage sucks, her power control sucks unless they only gain power from power gain buffs and if so theres no point of using her posion curse because she would be able to nullify power gain regardless and in situations where they gain power from something other than a buff she cant cycle sp2's fast enough, and finally her fire thingy it simply dosent do enough damage, another thing is if you're doing something that requires her to be in a certain curse you're screwed because if you ever need to switch curses you cant because you'll start dying from whatever you needed the previous curse for rendering her immunites practically useless. But i will say she has one of the best nullifies in the game
Rintrah on attack he's just tanky that just about it he's nothing special not bad just average or slightly above average, second string if you will. ON defense he dosent do anything i struggle to understand why everyone is so afraid of him even the tubers with much bigger accounts than mine he has they easiest specials to dex in the game and all you have to do is knock him down and he's just a normal unremarkable cow
I used her as much, if not more than doom in 8.2 and she’s the reason I didn’t need 1 revive. Go immediately into burst sp2 to get damage, then switch to bleed if you need health from eating a combo. She’s so good because she counters some of the most annoying cosmics, and can take any other class based on some annoying nodes that she can nullify
I used her as much, if not more than doom in 8.2 and she’s the reason I didn’t need 1 revive. Go immediately into burst sp2 to get damage, then switch to bleed if you need health from eating a combo. She’s so good because she counters some of the most annoying cosmics, and can take any other class based on some annoying nodes that she can nullify
It dosent matter who you used thats your choice and has nothing to do with who's best for a path or who's the better champ
Tbh…I don’t think any of those mentioned qualify for the “overrated” title lol
All of these champs dont deliver as much as they're hyped up not saying any of them are bad
I kinda have to disagree on that lol most of those save S99/Rintrah aren’t even really “hyped” BUT I will say what they do, what they’re meant to do, they all achieve extremely well…maybe not the “best” but they aren’t sold as that either lol Especially Wags, a LOT of people still only view/use him as a prefight only champ as is lol if anything he’d be undervalued😂
Adding Claire to the list is disrespectful tbh. She is the most versatile mystic champ in the game.She can easily drop 50k+ sp2 in incinerate mode, she can bypass nullify immunity(which negates nullifying mystics) and also bypass force of will (which negates neutralise mystics). One of the few mystics who works well both with and without suicides.She has been in my deck in so many metas and can safely score 47-50k points in bgs. If anything she is underrated and I would gladly take her to r5 if I pull a mystic 4-5 gem from carinas v3(unless I pull absman)
Example: Hype has 0 utility and is rng reliant, Rintrah is way too easy to fight and gets shredded by a couple champs and is a pretty mid attacker, Claire has terrible damage for the amount of utility she has, and bishop is a mid defender and on attack he's pretty slow. And all of these champs are hypes quite a bit
Hyperion is a 2016 champ lol. He is poison immune, he has a reliable regen, power gain, and he can special intercept all day. How does he have no utility? Claire is immune to multiple things depending on need and has fantastic regen and nullify. She doesn't need huge damage. Rintrah is an amazing attacker in the right situations and makes a lot of hard fights easy. No one thinks these champs are amazing for all fights and all situations. They are properly rated.
Hype Im pretty sure you have to throw a sp3 to get regen so i wouldnt call that reliable in bg's or some aw fights and yeah he has 0 utility he cant counter miss or evade or biohazard, he dosent have aa reduction or power control he dosent have good healing, he cant counter unstoppable, or nullify buffs i can go on and on about all the things he dosent have or cant do he is really only okay in fights that dont have any fight changing nodes and even then he's far less than satisfactory because of his complete rng reliance
Claire, her utility really isnt that good and her damage is god awful. So what she can go immune to multiple things thats quite literally ALL she can do her regen sucks because its based on the amount of damage she deals and her damage sucks, her power control sucks unless they only gain power from power gain buffs and if so theres no point of using her posion curse because she would be able to nullify power gain regardless and in situations where they gain power from something other than a buff she cant cycle sp2's fast enough, and finally her fire thingy it simply dosent do enough damage, another thing is if you're doing something that requires her to be in a certain curse you're screwed because if you ever need to switch curses you cant because you'll start dying from whatever you needed the previous curse for rendering her immunites practically useless. But i will say she has one of the best nullifies in the game
Rintrah on attack he's just tanky that just about it he's nothing special not bad just average or slightly above average, second string if you will. ON defense he dosent do anything i struggle to understand why everyone is so afraid of him even the tubers with much bigger accounts than mine he has they easiest specials to dex in the game and all you have to do is knock him down and he's just a normal unremarkable cow
Rintrah is a beast of an attacker and a beast of a defender. Shutting down virtually every cosmic ability in the game is crazy. Countering some of the hardest current cosmic defenders (Galan, Hulkling, Gorr, etc.) are easily shut down from the start of the fight until the very end, as long as you are hitting or being hit.
Claire has absurd utility. From the majorly potent regen in the right scenarios (in EQ and or story content that benefits mystics), her steady damage output, little to no ramp up, triple immunities, power steal, bleed, poison, and incinerate for bloody mess and pleasure to burn, among so so so many more matchups.
I assume that you want more champs like Kitty or Hercules, that can be used almost anywhere. However when looking at a good champion, we can’t count the very top, like Hercules or Kitty Pryde. We have to look to where they’re applicable, and why they work.
To answer your original question, I don’t particularly care for Knull. He’s not bad by any means, I just feel that the investment of signature stones isn’t worth what he can do for my account.
Adding Claire to the list is disrespectful tbh. She is the most versatile mystic champ in the game.She can easily drop 50k+ sp2 in incinerate mode, she can bypass nullify immunity(which negates nullifying mystics) and also bypass force of will (which negates neutralise mystics). One of the few mystics who works well both with and without suicides.She has been in my deck in so many metas and can safely score 47-50k points in bgs. If anything she is underrated and I would gladly take her to r5 if I pull a mystic 4-5 gem from carinas v3(unless I pull absman)
Adding Claire to the list is disrespectful tbh. She is the most versatile mystic champ in the game.She can easily drop 50k+ sp2 in incinerate mode, she can bypass nullify immunity(which negates nullifying mystics) and also bypass force of will (which negates neutralise mystics). One of the few mystics who works well both with and without suicides.She has been in my deck in so many metas and can safely score 47-50k points in bgs. If anything she is underrated and I would gladly take her to r5 if I pull a mystic 4-5 gem from carinas v3(unless I pull absman)
She is way far from the most versatile thats gotta be a joke
"Claire, her utility really isnt that good and her damage is god awful. So what she can go immune to multiple things thats quite literally ALL she can do her regen sucks because its based on the amount of damage she deals and her damage sucks, her power control sucks unless they only gain power from power gain buffs and if so theres no point of using her posion curse because she would be able to nullify power gain regardless and in situations where they gain power from something other than a buff she cant cycle sp2's fast enough, and finally her fire thingy it simply dosent do enough damage, another thing is if you're doing something that requires her to be in a certain curse you're screwed because if you ever need to switch curses you cant because you'll start dying from whatever you needed the previous curse for rendering her immunites practically useless. But i will say she has one of the best nullifies in the game"
Will admit, pretty disappointed that herc and doom aren't on this list. Both are good, but very boring so they're overrated to me.
I also agree with the consensus that most of these champions are underrated.
Tbh I had come in expecting the same lol
Overrated means highrated but not deserving that rating we are talking about how good a champ is not how much you like a champ or how fun a champ is why would herc be on this list
People are sleeping on Mojo, the ability to shorter the duration of buffs is so valuable especially when you are the only champ who can shorten any buff.
Adding Claire to the list is disrespectful tbh. She is the most versatile mystic champ in the game.She can easily drop 50k+ sp2 in incinerate mode, she can bypass nullify immunity(which negates nullifying mystics) and also bypass force of will (which negates neutralise mystics). One of the few mystics who works well both with and without suicides.She has been in my deck in so many metas and can safely score 47-50k points in bgs. If anything she is underrated and I would gladly take her to r5 if I pull a mystic 4-5 gem from carinas v3(unless I pull absman)
Adding Claire to the list is disrespectful tbh. She is the most versatile mystic champ in the game.She can easily drop 50k+ sp2 in incinerate mode, she can bypass nullify immunity(which negates nullifying mystics) and also bypass force of will (which negates neutralise mystics). One of the few mystics who works well both with and without suicides.She has been in my deck in so many metas and can safely score 47-50k points in bgs. If anything she is underrated and I would gladly take her to r5 if I pull a mystic 4-5 gem from carinas v3(unless I pull absman)
She is way far from the most versatile thats gotta be a joke
"Claire, her utility really isnt that good and her damage is god awful. So what she can go immune to multiple things thats quite literally ALL she can do her regen sucks because its based on the amount of damage she deals and her damage sucks, her power control sucks unless they only gain power from power gain buffs and if so theres no point of using her posion curse because she would be able to nullify power gain regardless and in situations where they gain power from something other than a buff she cant cycle sp2's fast enough, and finally her fire thingy it simply dosent do enough damage, another thing is if you're doing something that requires her to be in a certain curse you're screwed because if you ever need to switch curses you cant because you'll start dying from whatever you needed the previous curse for rendering her immunites practically useless. But i will say she has one of the best nullifies in the game"
A joke???really Kindly list the mystics who can take as many fights as her. All the faults that u have listed are down to u not being good with the champ. U cry about her power control but fail to realise that u gotta keep the opponent between 2 and 3 bars of power to have it work at its best but u would cry about doing that while being perfectly happy to do the same with doom. Her regen is enough to regen about 10% health per sp2 with it going even higher with good crit rng. It’s not the best but more than enough to use a small revive on her and then regen back the health saving u potions. Her sp2 in incinerate phase can deal over 50k damage which isn’t all that bad. I have legit won a bg round with her against havoc despite all of her attacks being energy attacks.
I don’t have falcon so I don’t see what is so good about him
He is my top champion and second r4. I never saw anything great in him either. In fact he was my first 6* skill champion and didnt even reach r1 until i had accumulated another 40 6*s. Then that electrical defense meta came in battlegrounds and he got moves to r3, replaced herc on my aw attack team and now sits as one of two r4s.
He counters just about everything - hazard shift nodes, rock stacks, defense charges, evades, auto blocks and thorn damage. His attack is on the lower side and his defense is poor, so you are only really using him for the lock on utility. Restrict yourself to that and he is excellent, if you expect an allrounder then he will fall short of expectations. He is stil underrated because he isnt recommended as top tier skill champion and only people who already respect that lock on utility rate him highly
Example: Hype has 0 utility and is rng reliant, Rintrah is way too easy to fight and gets shredded by a couple champs and is a pretty mid attacker, Claire has terrible damage for the amount of utility she has, and bishop is a mid defender and on attack he's pretty slow. And all of these champs are hypes quite a bit
Will admit, pretty disappointed that herc and doom aren't on this list. Both are good, but very boring so they're overrated to me.
I also agree with the consensus that most of these champions are underrated.
Tbh I had come in expecting the same lol
Overrated means highrated but not deserving that rating we are talking about how good a champ is not how much you like a champ or how fun a champ is why would herc be on this list
Ok so the basis of this from other comments I see is…down to utility?(of which many you listed have strong utility lol) But hey if you’re at least gonna start a “controversial topic” at least add ONE legit controversial champ in there lol
Also those weren’t all “high rated” several have sat at mid or slightly above…for a while now lol
I say Spidey 2099, but please hear me out. (TLDR down)
I have 6* S99, r3 and sig 100ish, so I know what I am talking about, I believe. He is an amazing champ, he has some utility especially against powergain champs. He has a lot of debuffs, which is good for some nodes.
His damage is often overlooked. Most people focus on his SP2 burst, which provides sufficient damage output. However, his Ruptures are often overlooked, and their ticks do pretty nice damage, especially if you stack and pause them.
And why I think he is overrated? I simply think people value him too much. Most people see him as "that godly champ I can't learn, he's good man but I haven't learnt him". I don't think he is THAT good. He is a top 10 science, but he doesn't make the top 5 for me due to his heavy reliance on AI rng. He benefits a lot from SPs that trigger dex (WS SP1 for ex.) and also an aggressive AI. But if you get even a slightly passive AI with non-dex SPs, he is much less of a beast.
Also, his SP3 Slow is imho pretty stupid, because if you face an evade or unstoppable opponent, you need to get to SP3 first, which can easily be painfully long and hard task.
And lastly, while people often present his synergy with Anti-Venom as "essential", I disagree. It is nice to have, but since he can handle powergain with his heavy pretty consistently, this is useful only in a handful of situation. Most of the time he is perfectly fine without it.
TLDR: great champ, people put him in top 3 science, which I don't think he is. That's why he is "overrated"
Example: Hype has 0 utility and is rng reliant, Rintrah is way too easy to fight and gets shredded by a couple champs and is a pretty mid attacker, Claire has terrible damage for the amount of utility she has, and bishop is a mid defender and on attack he's pretty slow. And all of these champs are hypes quite a bit
Hyperion is a 2016 champ lol. He is poison immune, he has a reliable regen, power gain, and he can special intercept all day. How does he have no utility? Claire is immune to multiple things depending on need and has fantastic regen and nullify. She doesn't need huge damage. Rintrah is an amazing attacker in the right situations and makes a lot of hard fights easy. No one thinks these champs are amazing for all fights and all situations. They are properly rated.
Hype Im pretty sure you have to throw a sp3 to get regen so i wouldnt call that reliable in bg's or some aw fights and yeah he has 0 utility he cant counter miss or evade or biohazard, he dosent have aa reduction or power control he dosent have good healing, he cant counter unstoppable, or nullify buffs i can go on and on about all the things he dosent have or cant do he is really only okay in fights that dont have any fight changing nodes and even then he's far less than satisfactory because of his complete rng reliance
This must be one of the worst takes. Unique utility of hype is his power gain without having to do anything. If you can't realise how puwerful that is then we can't have a discussion. But since you keep saying he has zero utility while he clearly has a lot makes me think we can't discuss this anyway.
Example: Hype has 0 utility and is rng reliant, Rintrah is way too easy to fight and gets shredded by a couple champs and is a pretty mid attacker, Claire has terrible damage for the amount of utility she has, and bishop is a mid defender and on attack he's pretty slow. And all of these champs are hypes quite a bit
Hyperion is a 2016 champ lol. He is poison immune, he has a reliable regen, power gain, and he can special intercept all day. How does he have no utility? Claire is immune to multiple things depending on need and has fantastic regen and nullify. She doesn't need huge damage. Rintrah is an amazing attacker in the right situations and makes a lot of hard fights easy. No one thinks these champs are amazing for all fights and all situations. They are properly rated.
Rintrah on attack he's just tanky that just about it he's nothing special not bad just average or slightly above average, second string if you will. ON defense he dosent do anything i struggle to understand why everyone is so afraid of him even the tubers with much bigger accounts than mine he has they easiest specials to dex in the game and all you have to do is knock him down and he's just a normal unremarkable cow
Sorry but you saying Rintrah is meh on attack is farcical. He was one of my most used attackers over the last few seasons.
The most overrated champ is the one you ranked but don’t use
For me It would be Falcon (i should use him more) doom (i,m a suicide user clarie replaced him) peni and rintrah (i know they are good atackers but i use them more for defense)
Example: Hype has 0 utility and is rng reliant, Rintrah is way too easy to fight and gets shredded by a couple champs and is a pretty mid attacker, Claire has terrible damage for the amount of utility she has, and bishop is a mid defender and on attack he's pretty slow. And all of these champs are hypes quite a bit
Hyperion is a 2016 champ lol. He is poison immune, he has a reliable regen, power gain, and he can special intercept all day. How does he have no utility? Claire is immune to multiple things depending on need and has fantastic regen and nullify. She doesn't need huge damage. Rintrah is an amazing attacker in the right situations and makes a lot of hard fights easy. No one thinks these champs are amazing for all fights and all situations. They are properly rated.
Hype Im pretty sure you have to throw a sp3 to get regen so i wouldnt call that reliable in bg's or some aw fights and yeah he has 0 utility he cant counter miss or evade or biohazard, he dosent have aa reduction or power control he dosent have good healing, he cant counter unstoppable, or nullify buffs i can go on and on about all the things he dosent have or cant do he is really only okay in fights that dont have any fight changing nodes and even then he's far less than satisfactory because of his complete rng reliance
Claire, her utility really isnt that good and her damage is god awful. So what she can go immune to multiple things thats quite literally ALL she can do her regen sucks because its based on the amount of damage she deals and her damage sucks, her power control sucks unless they only gain power from power gain buffs and if so theres no point of using her posion curse because she would be able to nullify power gain regardless and in situations where they gain power from something other than a buff she cant cycle sp2's fast enough, and finally her fire thingy it simply dosent do enough damage, another thing is if you're doing something that requires her to be in a certain curse you're screwed because if you ever need to switch curses you cant because you'll start dying from whatever you needed the previous curse for rendering her immunites practically useless. But i will say she has one of the best nullifies in the game
Rintrah on attack he's just tanky that just about it he's nothing special not bad just average or slightly above average, second string if you will. ON defense he dosent do anything i struggle to understand why everyone is so afraid of him even the tubers with much bigger accounts than mine he has they easiest specials to dex in the game and all you have to do is knock him down and he's just a normal unremarkable cow
Lol then by your logic Dr Doom is overrated because he can't counter biohazard or Unstoppable or evade Kitty Pryde is overrated because she cannot counter champions who remove prowess and she cannot nullify buffs and is pretty bad on defense if you have tech champions or champions who punish for prowess Hercules is overrated because he cannot nullify buffs, has no immunities, isn't immune to fate seal or stagger and is pretty bad on defense
All I am implying is that you can never get a champion who counters everyone and cannot be countered by anyone Your ignorance makes you seem like an idiot even though I think you are not
Honorable mentions: Sauron (Defensively), BWDO, Black Panther, Stealthy, and Mr Fantastic.
Kitty
Someone who actually understands the definition of "overrated".
None of the champs in the poll fall into that category. Nobody says those champs are top in the game, or top of their class or even top3 in their class. Just some nice champs that can do some stuff and in certain situations can look really good (BG meta, AW globals, Story node combos).
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Claire, her utility really isnt that good and her damage is god awful. So what she can go immune to multiple things thats quite literally ALL she can do her regen sucks because its based on the amount of damage she deals and her damage sucks, her power control sucks unless they only gain power from power gain buffs and if so theres no point of using her posion curse because she would be able to nullify power gain regardless and in situations where they gain power from something other than a buff she cant cycle sp2's fast enough, and finally her fire thingy it simply dosent do enough damage, another thing is if you're doing something that requires her to be in a certain curse you're screwed because if you ever need to switch curses you cant because you'll start dying from whatever you needed the previous curse for rendering her immunites practically useless. But i will say she has one of the best nullifies in the game
Rintrah on attack he's just tanky that just about it he's nothing special not bad just average or slightly above average, second string if you will.
ON defense he dosent do anything i struggle to understand why everyone is so afraid of him even the tubers with much bigger accounts than mine he has they easiest specials to dex in the game and all you have to do is knock him down and he's just a normal unremarkable cow
I think you should rank up Claire
I have her ranked up she was my second 6 star
I used her as much, if not more than doom in 8.2 and she’s the reason I didn’t need 1 revive.
Go immediately into burst sp2 to get damage, then switch to bleed if you need health from eating a combo. She’s so good because she counters some of the most annoying cosmics, and can take any other class based on some annoying nodes that she can nullify
I used her as much, if not more than doom in 8.2 and she’s the reason I didn’t need 1 revive.
Go immediately into burst sp2 to get damage, then switch to bleed if you need health from eating a combo. She’s so good because she counters some of the most annoying cosmics, and can take any other class based on some annoying nodes that she can nullify
It dosent matter who you used thats your choice and has nothing to do with who's best for a path or who's the better champ
Especially Wags, a LOT of people still only view/use him as a prefight only champ as is lol if anything he’d be undervalued😂
If anything she is underrated and I would gladly take her to r5 if I pull a mystic 4-5 gem from carinas v3(unless I pull absman)
Claire has absurd utility. From the majorly potent regen in the right scenarios (in EQ and or story content that benefits mystics), her steady damage output, little to no ramp up, triple immunities, power steal, bleed, poison, and incinerate for bloody mess and pleasure to burn, among so so so many more matchups.
I assume that you want more champs like Kitty or Hercules, that can be used almost anywhere. However when looking at a good champion, we can’t count the very top, like Hercules or Kitty Pryde. We have to look to where they’re applicable, and why they work.
To answer your original question, I don’t particularly care for Knull. He’s not bad by any means, I just feel that the investment of signature stones isn’t worth what he can do for my account.
Jinx
"Claire, her utility really isnt that good and her damage is god awful. So what she can go immune to multiple things thats quite literally ALL she can do her regen sucks because its based on the amount of damage she deals and her damage sucks, her power control sucks unless they only gain power from power gain buffs and if so theres no point of using her posion curse because she would be able to nullify power gain regardless and in situations where they gain power from something other than a buff she cant cycle sp2's fast enough, and finally her fire thingy it simply dosent do enough damage, another thing is if you're doing something that requires her to be in a certain curse you're screwed because if you ever need to switch curses you cant because you'll start dying from whatever you needed the previous curse for rendering her immunites practically useless. But i will say she has one of the best nullifies in the game"
Kindly list the mystics who can take as many fights as her.
All the faults that u have listed are down to u not being good with the champ.
U cry about her power control but fail to realise that u gotta keep the opponent between 2 and 3 bars of power to have it work at its best but u would cry about doing that while being perfectly happy to do the same with doom.
Her regen is enough to regen about 10% health per sp2 with it going even higher with good crit rng. It’s not the best but more than enough to use a small revive on her and then regen back the health saving u potions.
Her sp2 in incinerate phase can deal over 50k damage which isn’t all that bad.
I have legit won a bg round with her against havoc despite all of her attacks being energy attacks.
He counters just about everything - hazard shift nodes, rock stacks, defense charges, evades, auto blocks and thorn damage. His attack is on the lower side and his defense is poor, so you are only really using him for the lock on utility. Restrict yourself to that and he is excellent, if you expect an allrounder then he will fall short of expectations. He is stil underrated because he isnt recommended as top tier skill champion and only people who already respect that lock on utility rate him highly
But hey if you’re at least gonna start a “controversial topic” at least add ONE legit controversial champ in there lol
Also those weren’t all “high rated” several have sat at mid or slightly above…for a while now lol
I have 6* S99, r3 and sig 100ish, so I know what I am talking about, I believe. He is an amazing champ, he has some utility especially against powergain champs. He has a lot of debuffs, which is good for some nodes.
His damage is often overlooked. Most people focus on his SP2 burst, which provides sufficient damage output. However, his Ruptures are often overlooked, and their ticks do pretty nice damage, especially if you stack and pause them.
And why I think he is overrated? I simply think people value him too much. Most people see him as "that godly champ I can't learn, he's good man but I haven't learnt him". I don't think he is THAT good. He is a top 10 science, but he doesn't make the top 5 for me due to his heavy reliance on AI rng. He benefits a lot from SPs that trigger dex (WS SP1 for ex.) and also an aggressive AI. But if you get even a slightly passive AI with non-dex SPs, he is much less of a beast.
Also, his SP3 Slow is imho pretty stupid, because if you face an evade or unstoppable opponent, you need to get to SP3 first, which can easily be painfully long and hard task.
And lastly, while people often present his synergy with Anti-Venom as "essential", I disagree. It is nice to have, but since he can handle powergain with his heavy pretty consistently, this is useful only in a handful of situation. Most of the time he is perfectly fine without it.
TLDR: great champ, people put him in top 3 science, which I don't think he is. That's why he is "overrated"
Fury (lots of them)
Power gain
Incinerate
Armor break
Stun (separate from parry mastery)
Poison immunity
Regeneration
Yes, there’s lots he can’t do. Just like every other single champ in the game.
This is just one fight but was pretty typical of that season. how anyone can say a 150k+ sp2 is meh is beyond me.
Dr Doom is overrated because he can't counter biohazard or Unstoppable or evade
Kitty Pryde is overrated because she cannot counter champions who remove prowess and she cannot nullify buffs and is pretty bad on defense if you have tech champions or champions who punish for prowess
Hercules is overrated because he cannot nullify buffs, has no immunities, isn't immune to fate seal or stagger and is pretty bad on defense
All I am implying is that you can never get a champion who counters everyone and cannot be countered by anyone
Your ignorance makes you seem like an idiot even though I think you are not
None of the champs in the poll fall into that category. Nobody says those champs are top in the game, or top of their class or even top3 in their class. Just some nice champs that can do some stuff and in certain situations can look really good (BG meta, AW globals, Story node combos).