Still can’t believe so many rushed out to open their 7* crystals when none of the champs are God Tier.. lol..
I don’t think anyone rushed to open anything. Some people like some of the champs here. When 6* came out, the pool was pretty mediocre, but people still opened 6* crystals then. There’s tons of good champs, maybe not top of the game or “god-tier” but good champs.
Well the poll currently stands at 17-1 .. me being the only one who still haven’t opened anything.
I guess I’m the most patient here.
I don’t understand your point here. Some people here opened 7* because there are good champs in there. Seems like you’re just assuming that everyone is impatient and opened them just cause.
There’s a well known experiment where kids are given 1 candy and told they can open it now or get 2 candy if they wait.
In that experiment most just open the 1. But kids with higher iQs tend to wait to get 2.
Take from that what you will..
Opening them now rewards you with paragon crystals, from where i pulled other 7*s, as well as rank-up mats, more 7* shards and, in my case, 2 t6ccs (3 possibly by tomorrow).
Opening them later rewards you with a 7*.
Take from will what that you...
This week Proff Hoff showed an opening of 156 Paragon crystals that resulted in 1x 7*
It basically boils down to whether or not u like the heroes available.
Personally, I think g99 is great for max double suicide. Her regen is exceptional. I got Sauron and awakened him. He's also great for defense for max double suicide.
I suppose there is a discussion to be had with this? If you are in a competitive ally, I don’t think you have much choice but to open. One of the largest accounts in the game already has a profile with 3 R2 7*s. Sig 200 Idoom is his 4th ranked prestige champ. Over the next several weeks, god knows where prestige will go? I’m an all R5 profile now, and his prestige is like 3000 higher than mine (I don’t rank for prestige, though, I’m sure other R5 profiles are more competitive).
But if you aren’t in the prestige race, and don’t care about the opening event, I don’t see why you can’t just hold your crystals till the basic has a champ you want?
That said, I don’t think the 7* basic crystal is ever going to be better. There is 1 champ in there that is generally considered to be a bit of a dog. The rest are all worth having at, essentially, R5 rank 1 power. Hulk is good, he makes my Herc even better. Venom is hood, he makes my Scorpion even better. Shuri and Idoom, Storm and Apoc, Terrax and Galen. They all become better synergy companions, as they can actually do work, and you invest nothing but shards and iso. You don’t have to rank them. But will the group stay uniformly good (if not great)? History would say no. Trash champs will infiltrate along with great ones, and it becomes RNG again. You’ll be opening them just to get titan shards, hoping for better RNG in there.
Still can’t believe so many rushed out to open their 7* crystals when none of the champs are God Tier.. lol..
I don’t think anyone rushed to open anything. Some people like some of the champs here. When 6* came out, the pool was pretty mediocre, but people still opened 6* crystals then. There’s tons of good champs, maybe not top of the game or “god-tier” but good champs.
Well the poll currently stands at 17-1 .. me being the only one who still haven’t opened anything.
I guess I’m the most patient here.
I don’t understand your point here. Some people here opened 7* because there are good champs in there. Seems like you’re just assuming that everyone is impatient and opened them just cause.
There’s a well known experiment where kids are given 1 candy and told they can open it now or get 2 candy if they wait.
In that experiment most just open the 1. But kids with higher iQs tend to wait to get 2.
Take from that what you will..
Opening them now rewards you with paragon crystals, from where i pulled other 7*s, as well as rank-up mats, more 7* shards and, in my case, 2 t6ccs (3 possibly by tomorrow).
Opening them later rewards you with a 7*.
Take from will what that you...
This week Proff Hoff showed an opening of 156 Paragon crystals that resulted in 1x 7*
Take from that what you will.
Here's 2 of mine.
WHAT
Nice. I think I’ve pulled three from paragons now? Maybe it’s four? I have 10 champs, one duped, and I think I’ve only opened 7 crystals. It’s been a crazy week, lol. It’s been a crazy week.
Why am I not surprised by this. Your logic and reasoning my be yours and your opinion, however you continuously show time and time again that you don’t care what people say nor about anyone’s opinion unless they are a highly viewed YouTuber. Your are purposely missing out or avoiding using champs that aren’t “god tier”. While that is your opinion and your choice, that doesn’t make you high IQ and in my opinion, is quite sad.
I’ve only opened 2 so far. I think there are some decent champs in the pool that I personally really love. Bishop, Chavez, Overseer, and a couple others are pretty good pulls imo. Not sure how long it’ll take for more champs to be added and I’m still focusing on 6* more right now. Opening 7* will also help me fully exploring the 7* quest and get more shards so I’m probably going to open some until I get to 5
Good that you like those champs.. I don’t.. I personally haven’t even ranked up my 6* Bishop, Chavez, Overseer..
The only good one I want is Domino but the chance of getting 1-2 champs isn’t enticing.
Have you tried them out? There’s some great gameplay of Bishop and Chavez out there and Overseer is great in war. Bishop and Chavez are good dual use champs and they can take a lot of tough fights in battlegrounds
kT1 made a 7* tier list and none of the champs made “God Tier”.
Plus 7* shards are really hard to come by so I’m not wasting them at a chance of us-god tier champs.
I'm sorry but you think KT1 is the ultimate voice and opinion when it comes to deciding whether a champion is good or bad, god tier or not?
Do you also wait for him to tell you what to do in life? Does he give you permission to use the bathroom?
You're sitting here judging everyone's choices on who they like and want to use and you have no opinion of your own because you can't think for yourself. Everything you've ever said on these forums doesn't come from your own experience. It comes from opinions of people like KT1. You got dragged, hard, for your opinion on Mantis and you still haven't learned. Maybe try using other champs besides your crutch Hercules. Try at actually becoming good at the game instead of wasting time making pointless polls.
Still can’t believe so many rushed out to open their 7* crystals when none of the champs are God Tier.. lol..
I don’t think anyone rushed to open anything. Some people like some of the champs here. When 6* came out, the pool was pretty mediocre, but people still opened 6* crystals then. There’s tons of good champs, maybe not top of the game or “god-tier” but good champs.
Well the poll currently stands at 17-1 .. me being the only one who still haven’t opened anything.
I guess I’m the most patient here.
I don’t understand your point here. Some people here opened 7* because there are good champs in there. Seems like you’re just assuming that everyone is impatient and opened them just cause.
There’s a well known experiment where kids are given 1 candy and told they can open it now or get 2 candy if they wait.
In that experiment most just open the 1. But kids with higher iQs tend to wait to get 2.
Take from that what you will..
Opening them now rewards you with paragon crystals, from where i pulled other 7*s, as well as rank-up mats, more 7* shards and, in my case, 2 t6ccs (3 possibly by tomorrow).
Opening them later rewards you with a 7*.
Take from will what that you...
This week Proff Hoff showed an opening of 156 Paragon crystals that resulted in 1x 7*
I really rate most of the champs in the pool. I had Gambit and Spider-Gwen at R3 way before 7-stars were released. My first 7-star pull was Gwen, second was Bishop; and frankly I’m delighted. The way I see it, we have a chance to rank up and learn new champions and create our own meta instead of going mainstream.
Still can’t believe so many rushed out to open their 7* crystals when none of the champs are God Tier.. lol..
I don’t think anyone rushed to open anything. Some people like some of the champs here. When 6* came out, the pool was pretty mediocre, but people still opened 6* crystals then. There’s tons of good champs, maybe not top of the game or “god-tier” but good champs.
Well the poll currently stands at 17-1 .. me being the only one who still haven’t opened anything.
I guess I’m the most patient here.
I don’t understand your point here. Some people here opened 7* because there are good champs in there. Seems like you’re just assuming that everyone is impatient and opened them just cause.
There’s a well known experiment where kids are given 1 candy and told they can open it now or get 2 candy if they wait.
In that experiment most just open the 1. But kids with higher iQs tend to wait to get 2.
Take from that what you will..
Opening them now rewards you with paragon crystals, from where i pulled other 7*s, as well as rank-up mats, more 7* shards and, in my case, 2 t6ccs (3 possibly by tomorrow).
Opening them later rewards you with a 7*.
Take from will what that you...
This week Proff Hoff showed an opening of 156 Paragon crystals that resulted in 1x 7*
Take from that what you will.
Of course you watch Prof Hoff as well.
Wanted to say same thing. He's following his idol with their gaslighting ways...
Still can’t believe so many rushed out to open their 7* crystals when none of the champs are God Tier.. lol..
I don’t think anyone rushed to open anything. Some people like some of the champs here. When 6* came out, the pool was pretty mediocre, but people still opened 6* crystals then. There’s tons of good champs, maybe not top of the game or “god-tier” but good champs.
Well the poll currently stands at 17-1 .. me being the only one who still haven’t opened anything.
I guess I’m the most patient here.
I don’t understand your point here. Some people here opened 7* because there are good champs in there. Seems like you’re just assuming that everyone is impatient and opened them just cause.
There’s a well known experiment where kids are given 1 candy and told they can open it now or get 2 candy if they wait.
In that experiment most just open the 1. But kids with higher iQs tend to wait to get 2.
Take from that what you will..
It tells me you judge circumstances based on too superficial information.
There were a series of psychological experiments conducted in the 1970s similar to what you're describing above. They were not intended to show any correlation between intelligence and the ability to withhold gratification. They were instead structured to see what sort of things would *help* children delay gratification to get the rewards they wanted. Its was follow up studies that seemed to show, long after the fact, that the children who were able to delay gratification for longer periods of time were more likely to have academic and economic success in their later life.
However, those studies were conducted with relatively few children and did not control for a variety of socioeconomic factors that were not seen as relevant to the intent of the study, which was not to show who could hold out holder and who couldn't. It was to see what would help people hold out longer overall.
This is important, because those studies were challenged in the 1990s and the 2000s. It occurred to later scientists that the apocryphal explanation for the results - smarter people are also more disciplined people - was not the only possible explanation. There was another, the so-called trust issue. If you tell a child you can have one now or two later, why should they trust that you are telling them the truth? It is a perfectly reasonable logical thought process to decide the bird in the hand was worth more than the possibility of two later.
If you come from someone from a very secure economic background, as a child you might simply assume anything an adult tells you is the truth. In that case, you are deciding between one cookie and two. But if you come from a family where parental employment is sketchy, where food security is problematic, where nothing is assured, then when offered the choice between one cookie now and maybe two later, you might decide the one cookie now is the better choice, because the *odds* of getting two cookies later is simply too low. And later attempts to replicate these studies with larger numbers of children across a wide cross section of the socioeconomic range have suggested that self-discipline is not always strongly correlated with intelligence or later success. It is often more strongly correlated with backgrounds conducive to trust experimenters.
The lesson here is that before you use information, you should be certain you fully understand the nature of the information you're incorporating into your decisions. KT1 himself is very careful to offer that disclaimer when it comes to his tier list. Its a thing he does for fun, and something he thinks can be helpful as a reference to others, but even he is very careful to state that making decisions, like holding on to 7* shards indefinitely, purely on the basis of his tier list would be a bad idea. And keep in mind he's opening crystals based on the same judgment he is using to construct the tier list. KT1 believes his tier list is not a good reason to not open crystals.
Resources are limited so I tend to rank up and use only god tier champs with a few exceptions.
One of the benefits of opening 7* crystals is that none of those champs needs to be "ranked up." Every single one of those champions is in effect the rough equivalent of a 6* rank 4 straight out of the box, for the price of some ISO and gold. No catalysts required. Unless you have a ton of R4s, most players could use a few more champs of that caliber, and opening a 7* crystal has a decent chance of granting a useful one that requires no catalysts to be immediately useful without having to expend any expensive catalysts to rank them up.
Opening your 7*s is objectively the best choice you can make because a 7* crystal right now is more valuable than a 7* a few months in the future (remember how rare 6*s used to be?). And the solo event rewards make it even more valuable. This is probably gonna be the most 7*s available to us in a month for a while.
I just had enough for one and opened... Poof domino
Congrats.. but for every 1 Domino there are many Gambits, Hawkeyes, and Wongs,.. etc.
Wong is actually really fun to play, and with the improved power gain from being a 7 star, it will be a ton easier to keep his spells up, was actually hoping for wong from my 2 pulls, but got sassy and storm x.
I just had enough for one and opened... Poof domino
Congrats.. but for every 1 Domino there are many Gambits, Hawkeyes, and Wongs,.. etc.
Wong is actually really fun to play, and with the improved power gain from being a 7 star, it will be a ton easier to keep his spells up, was actually hoping for wong from my 2 pulls, but got sassy and storm x.
And you’re ecstatic for getting Sassy and Storm X , amirite?
Still can’t believe so many rushed out to open their 7* crystals when none of the champs are God Tier.. lol..
I don’t think anyone rushed to open anything. Some people like some of the champs here. When 6* came out, the pool was pretty mediocre, but people still opened 6* crystals then. There’s tons of good champs, maybe not top of the game or “god-tier” but good champs.
Well the poll currently stands at 17-1 .. me being the only one who still haven’t opened anything.
I guess I’m the most patient here.
I don’t understand your point here. Some people here opened 7* because there are good champs in there. Seems like you’re just assuming that everyone is impatient and opened them just cause.
There’s a well known experiment where kids are given 1 candy and told they can open it now or get 2 candy if they wait.
In that experiment most just open the 1. But kids with higher iQs tend to wait to get 2.
Take from that what you will..
It tells me you judge circumstances based on too superficial information.
There were a series of psychological experiments conducted in the 1970s similar to what you're describing above. They were not intended to show any correlation between intelligence and the ability to withhold gratification. They were instead structured to see what sort of things would *help* children delay gratification to get the rewards they wanted. Its was follow up studies that seemed to show, long after the fact, that the children who were able to delay gratification for longer periods of time were more likely to have academic and economic success in their later life.
However, those studies were conducted with relatively few children and did not control for a variety of socioeconomic factors that were not seen as relevant to the intent of the study, which was not to show who could hold out holder and who couldn't. It was to see what would help people hold out longer overall.
This is important, because those studies were challenged in the 1990s and the 2000s. It occurred to later scientists that the apocryphal explanation for the results - smarter people are also more disciplined people - was not the only possible explanation. There was another, the so-called trust issue. If you tell a child you can have one now or two later, why should they trust that you are telling them the truth? It is a perfectly reasonable logical thought process to decide the bird in the hand was worth more than the possibility of two later.
If you come from someone from a very secure economic background, as a child you might simply assume anything an adult tells you is the truth. In that case, you are deciding between one cookie and two. But if you come from a family where parental employment is sketchy, where food security is problematic, where nothing is assured, then when offered the choice between one cookie now and maybe two later, you might decide the one cookie now is the better choice, because the *odds* of getting two cookies later is simply too low. And later attempts to replicate these studies with larger numbers of children across a wide cross section of the socioeconomic range have suggested that self-discipline is not always strongly correlated with intelligence or later success. It is often more strongly correlated with backgrounds conducive to trust experimenters.
The lesson here is that before you use information, you should be certain you fully understand the nature of the information you're incorporating into your decisions. KT1 himself is very careful to offer that disclaimer when it comes to his tier list. Its a thing he does for fun, and something he thinks can be helpful as a reference to others, but even he is very careful to state that making decisions, like holding on to 7* shards indefinitely, purely on the basis of his tier list would be a bad idea. And keep in mind he's opening crystals based on the same judgment he is using to construct the tier list. KT1 believes his tier list is not a good reason to not open crystals.
Resources are limited so I tend to rank up and use only god tier champs with a few exceptions.
One of the benefits of opening 7* crystals is that none of those champs needs to be "ranked up." Every single one of those champions is in effect the rough equivalent of a 6* rank 4 straight out of the box, for the price of some ISO and gold. No catalysts required. Unless you have a ton of R4s, most players could use a few more champs of that caliber, and opening a 7* crystal has a decent chance of granting a useful one that requires no catalysts to be immediately useful without having to expend any expensive catalysts to rank them up.
Would you ever use a *7 Hawkeye over a R4 Nick Fury?
I just had enough for one and opened... Poof domino
Congrats.. but for every 1 Domino there are many Gambits, Hawkeyes, and Wongs,.. etc.
Wong is actually really fun to play, and with the improved power gain from being a 7 star, it will be a ton easier to keep his spells up, was actually hoping for wong from my 2 pulls, but got sassy and storm x.
And you’re ecstatic for getting Sassy and Storm X , amirite?
I just had enough for one and opened... Poof domino
Congrats.. but for every 1 Domino there are many Gambits, Hawkeyes, and Wongs,.. etc.
Wong is actually really fun to play, and with the improved power gain from being a 7 star, it will be a ton easier to keep his spells up, was actually hoping for wong from my 2 pulls, but got sassy and storm x.
And you’re ecstatic for getting Sassy and Storm X , amirite?
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Personally, I think g99 is great for max double suicide. Her regen is exceptional.
I got Sauron and awakened him.
He's also great for defense for max double suicide.
But if you aren’t in the prestige race, and don’t care about the opening event, I don’t see why you can’t just hold your crystals till the basic has a champ you want?
That said, I don’t think the 7* basic crystal is ever going to be better. There is 1 champ in there that is generally considered to be a bit of a dog. The rest are all worth having at, essentially, R5 rank 1 power. Hulk is good, he makes my Herc even better. Venom is hood, he makes my Scorpion even better. Shuri and Idoom, Storm and Apoc, Terrax and Galen. They all become better synergy companions, as they can actually do work, and you invest nothing but shards and iso. You don’t have to rank them. But will the group stay uniformly good (if not great)? History would say no. Trash champs will infiltrate along with great ones, and it becomes RNG again. You’ll be opening them just to get titan shards, hoping for better RNG in there.
My opinion.
Not certain, just a hunch.
I also really like the pool, only a few real misses for me.
Still waiting to get 10k shards to get my first 7*!! 🤣
I've got almost 9k shards, so almost there!
Do you also wait for him to tell you what to do in life? Does he give you permission to use the bathroom?
You're sitting here judging everyone's choices on who they like and want to use and you have no opinion of your own because you can't think for yourself. Everything you've ever said on these forums doesn't come from your own experience. It comes from opinions of people like KT1. You got dragged, hard, for your opinion on Mantis and you still haven't learned. Maybe try using other champs besides your crutch Hercules. Try at actually becoming good at the game instead of wasting time making pointless polls.
I had Gambit and Spider-Gwen at R3 way before 7-stars were released.
My first 7-star pull was Gwen, second was Bishop; and frankly I’m delighted.
The way I see it, we have a chance to rank up and learn new champions and create our own meta instead of going mainstream.
There were a series of psychological experiments conducted in the 1970s similar to what you're describing above. They were not intended to show any correlation between intelligence and the ability to withhold gratification. They were instead structured to see what sort of things would *help* children delay gratification to get the rewards they wanted. Its was follow up studies that seemed to show, long after the fact, that the children who were able to delay gratification for longer periods of time were more likely to have academic and economic success in their later life.
However, those studies were conducted with relatively few children and did not control for a variety of socioeconomic factors that were not seen as relevant to the intent of the study, which was not to show who could hold out holder and who couldn't. It was to see what would help people hold out longer overall.
This is important, because those studies were challenged in the 1990s and the 2000s. It occurred to later scientists that the apocryphal explanation for the results - smarter people are also more disciplined people - was not the only possible explanation. There was another, the so-called trust issue. If you tell a child you can have one now or two later, why should they trust that you are telling them the truth? It is a perfectly reasonable logical thought process to decide the bird in the hand was worth more than the possibility of two later.
If you come from someone from a very secure economic background, as a child you might simply assume anything an adult tells you is the truth. In that case, you are deciding between one cookie and two. But if you come from a family where parental employment is sketchy, where food security is problematic, where nothing is assured, then when offered the choice between one cookie now and maybe two later, you might decide the one cookie now is the better choice, because the *odds* of getting two cookies later is simply too low. And later attempts to replicate these studies with larger numbers of children across a wide cross section of the socioeconomic range have suggested that self-discipline is not always strongly correlated with intelligence or later success. It is often more strongly correlated with backgrounds conducive to trust experimenters.
The lesson here is that before you use information, you should be certain you fully understand the nature of the information you're incorporating into your decisions. KT1 himself is very careful to offer that disclaimer when it comes to his tier list. Its a thing he does for fun, and something he thinks can be helpful as a reference to others, but even he is very careful to state that making decisions, like holding on to 7* shards indefinitely, purely on the basis of his tier list would be a bad idea. And keep in mind he's opening crystals based on the same judgment he is using to construct the tier list. KT1 believes his tier list is not a good reason to not open crystals.
Oh, and one more thing: One of the benefits of opening 7* crystals is that none of those champs needs to be "ranked up." Every single one of those champions is in effect the rough equivalent of a 6* rank 4 straight out of the box, for the price of some ISO and gold. No catalysts required. Unless you have a ton of R4s, most players could use a few more champs of that caliber, and opening a 7* crystal has a decent chance of granting a useful one that requires no catalysts to be immediately useful without having to expend any expensive catalysts to rank them up.
Be honest.
And you skirt the question I asked or are you waiting on KT1 to tell you all about War Machine?
Nimrod, Warlock, Penni.. or even Hulkbuster.
What rank is your 6* War machine?