BGs is getting annoying, Kabam, you have to change something, idk what, but something.

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  • KTPrimalKTPrimal Member Posts: 121

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    My issue is that most of the complaints are from people who have a plethora of story and Everest content still to do. Don't cry to me that it's too hard or too grindy when you're refusing to do all the things that I've done to build my roster and skills to excel in BGs.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    What puts salt on a wound is when people express their frustrations and share ideas on how they think the game would be improved, and then they're told to stop whining because they don't know what a real competition is.
    Bring me a person who put work, time, did everything he hated to build a 17k roster, went thru all the pain and process of this game to be competitive. And lets see if he says "it too difficult".
    I bet you the only answer you will get is "I don't care for it" or "I don't like it so I don't play it"
    Its not a real frustration when they got a ton of content they avoid to make themselves stronger.
    I see. So the only people who have a right to express their opinions are the people who meet your game progress requirements? Is that your take?
    My take is that its a competition, people who play it casually, just for a few rewards, or are clearly not ready to compete and assume that they will probably lose. HAVE NO SAYING, on how the competition should be. Why should people that don't care much about building a roster to compete, have a saying at all? They don't care that much about improving their accounts to compete in the first place.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★

    My issue is that most of the complaints are from people who have a plethora of story and Everest content still to do. Don't cry to me that it's too hard or too grindy when you're refusing to do all the things that I've done to build my roster and skills to excel in BGs.

    Exactly, and to add something, what makes them think they got the roster or skill to beat someone who has done all that content when they haven't even tried it.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★

    My issue is that most of the complaints are from people who have a plethora of story and Everest content still to do. Don't cry to me that it's too hard or too grindy when you're refusing to do all the things that I've done to build my roster and skills to excel in BGs.

    Exactly, and to add something, what makes them think they got the roster or skill to beat someone who has done all that content when they haven't even tried it.
    They just feel entitled to the rewards w/o putting in the time and effort to earn them. A participation trophy if you will.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★
    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    edited September 2023

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    What puts salt on a wound is when people express their frustrations and share ideas on how they think the game would be improved, and then they're told to stop whining because they don't know what a real competition is.
    Bring me a person who put work, time, did everything he hated to build a 17k roster, went thru all the pain and process of this game to be competitive. And lets see if he says "it too difficult".
    I bet you the only answer you will get is "I don't care for it" or "I don't like it so I don't play it"
    Its not a real frustration when they got a ton of content they avoid to make themselves stronger.
    I see. So the only people who have a right to express their opinions are the people who meet your game progress requirements? Is that your take?
    My take is that its a competition, people who play it casually, just for a few rewards, or are clearly not ready to compete and assume that they will probably lose. HAVE NO SAYING, on how the competition should be. Why should people that don't care much about building a roster to compete, have a saying at all? They don't care that much about improving their accounts to compete in the first place.
    How many times are you going to say competition? If it was a drinking game, there would be casualties.
    The idea that people at an earlier stage of progress are just casual and don't care about building their Roster is your own personal judgment. An elitist one at that.
    Which you're completely entitled to. You're allowed to have your own opinions. Stop trying to push them off as truth and discredit the concerns of others. You don't speak for everyone just because you put time and effort into the game.
    People are capable of speaking for themselves and their own experience without being reduced to an ego trip.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Jefechuta said:

    You guys just really twisted the main point I was trying to make

    Lol just ignore them, crazy how a simple suggestion got twisted into "you want Kabam to hand you over free wins git gud" by the same people who always reply with passive aggressive comments when someone gives their opinion on the current state of BGs.
  • KTPrimalKTPrimal Member Posts: 121

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
    Thats happening now without the change. That change would be more in line with a competitive environment. Possibly encourage players to push progression a bit if they wanted the TB/PG pot instead of the UC/Cav pot. Change is tough for many people though. But changes and improvements to the mode to appear more competitive instead of just calling it a competitive mode may allow casual players to see it that way.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    What puts salt on a wound is when people express their frustrations and share ideas on how they think the game would be improved, and then they're told to stop whining because they don't know what a real competition is.
    Bring me a person who put work, time, did everything he hated to build a 17k roster, went thru all the pain and process of this game to be competitive. And lets see if he says "it too difficult".
    I bet you the only answer you will get is "I don't care for it" or "I don't like it so I don't play it"
    Its not a real frustration when they got a ton of content they avoid to make themselves stronger.
    I see. So the only people who have a right to express their opinions are the people who meet your game progress requirements? Is that your take?
    My take is that its a competition, people who play it casually, just for a few rewards, or are clearly not ready to compete and assume that they will probably lose. HAVE NO SAYING, on how the competition should be. Why should people that don't care much about building a roster to compete, have a saying at all? They don't care that much about improving their accounts to compete in the first place.
    How many times are you going to say competition? If it was a drinking game, there would he casualties.
    The idea that people at an earlier stage of progress are just casual and don't care about building their Roster is your own personal judgment. An elitist one at that.
    Which you're completely entitled to. You're allowed to have your own opinions. Stop trying to push them off as truth and discredit the concerns of others. You don't speak for everyone just because you put time and effort into the game.
    People are capable of speaking for themselves and their own experience without being reduced to an ego trip.
    Its not my opinion, it's Kabam's take on it.
    I happen agree with it. I am not pushing my opinion, they don't wanna swallow Kabam's decision you think they will swallow the opinion of a simple player?
    See what you call an ego trip, I call hard work and dedication.
    As an example you have a great resume for an 8 year MCoC player, you got credentials, licenses and all the bells and whistles. On paper you are great, now regarding a hand on experience not so much
    So yeah say I am on a ego trip, i call it work and dedication and hands on experience.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    What puts salt on a wound is when people express their frustrations and share ideas on how they think the game would be improved, and then they're told to stop whining because they don't know what a real competition is.
    Bring me a person who put work, time, did everything he hated to build a 17k roster, went thru all the pain and process of this game to be competitive. And lets see if he says "it too difficult".
    I bet you the only answer you will get is "I don't care for it" or "I don't like it so I don't play it"
    Its not a real frustration when they got a ton of content they avoid to make themselves stronger.
    I see. So the only people who have a right to express their opinions are the people who meet your game progress requirements? Is that your take?
    My take is that its a competition, people who play it casually, just for a few rewards, or are clearly not ready to compete and assume that they will probably lose. HAVE NO SAYING, on how the competition should be. Why should people that don't care much about building a roster to compete, have a saying at all? They don't care that much about improving their accounts to compete in the first place.
    How many times are you going to say competition? If it was a drinking game, there would be casualties.
    The idea that people at an earlier stage of progress are just casual and don't care about building their Roster is your own personal judgment. An elitist one at that.
    Which you're completely entitled to. You're allowed to have your own opinions. Stop trying to push them off as truth and discredit the concerns of others. You don't speak for everyone just because you put time and effort into the game.
    People are capable of speaking for themselves and their own experience without being reduced to an ego trip.
    That's like saying "Why do you keep saying that the Earth is round". BGs is competition. It literally is. Wanting it to be arena where participation is rewarded isn't going to change that fact.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★
    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
    Thats happening now without the change. That change would be more in line with a competitive environment. Possibly encourage players to push progression a bit if they wanted the TB/PG pot instead of the UC/Cav pot. Change is tough for many people though. But changes and improvements to the mode to appear more competitive instead of just calling it a competitive mode may allow casual players to see it that way.
    Hope you are right, people are stubborn though.
    I mean look at this initial thread, they wanted more points for beating a bigger account.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    What puts salt on a wound is when people express their frustrations and share ideas on how they think the game would be improved, and then they're told to stop whining because they don't know what a real competition is.
    Bring me a person who put work, time, did everything he hated to build a 17k roster, went thru all the pain and process of this game to be competitive. And lets see if he says "it too difficult".
    I bet you the only answer you will get is "I don't care for it" or "I don't like it so I don't play it"
    Its not a real frustration when they got a ton of content they avoid to make themselves stronger.
    I see. So the only people who have a right to express their opinions are the people who meet your game progress requirements? Is that your take?
    My take is that its a competition, people who play it casually, just for a few rewards, or are clearly not ready to compete and assume that they will probably lose. HAVE NO SAYING, on how the competition should be. Why should people that don't care much about building a roster to compete, have a saying at all? They don't care that much about improving their accounts to compete in the first place.
    How many times are you going to say competition? If it was a drinking game, there would he casualties.
    The idea that people at an earlier stage of progress are just casual and don't care about building their Roster is your own personal judgment. An elitist one at that.
    Which you're completely entitled to. You're allowed to have your own opinions. Stop trying to push them off as truth and discredit the concerns of others. You don't speak for everyone just because you put time and effort into the game.
    People are capable of speaking for themselves and their own experience without being reduced to an ego trip.
    Its not my opinion, it's Kabam's take on it.
    I happen agree with it. I am not pushing my opinion, they don't wanna swallow Kabam's decision you think they will swallow the opinion of a simple player?
    See what you call an ego trip, I call hard work and dedication.
    As an example you have a great resume for an 8 year MCoC player, you got credentials, licenses and all the bells and whistles. On paper you are great, now regarding a hand on experience not so much
    So yeah say I am on a ego trip, i call it work and dedication and hands on experience.
    Okay, I'm calling bull****. Nowhere did Kabam express the ignorant criticism you've been expressing towards other Players on here.
    I have experience here. I don't throw it in anyone's face. Guess we're all different people. Sorry you have a hard time seeing that everyone is valid for where they're at, but I've put work into my Account just like any other Player.
    Regardless, there is no graduation for sharing opinions. This is a Forum to discuss the game, and no one's say holds more weight than anyone else's, save for as it pertains to their claims.
    People are expressing themselves and their own views, for where they're at, with their own struggles and experience. You don't get to say who is valid and who isn't. You can certainly state your own experience in the game if that makes you happy. You can't use that to bully people out of discussions on the Forum, and you can't use that as a be-all-end-all for their points.
    You've put work in. Good for you. Now back to the actual points people are making.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    What puts salt on a wound is when people express their frustrations and share ideas on how they think the game would be improved, and then they're told to stop whining because they don't know what a real competition is.
    Bring me a person who put work, time, did everything he hated to build a 17k roster, went thru all the pain and process of this game to be competitive. And lets see if he says "it too difficult".
    I bet you the only answer you will get is "I don't care for it" or "I don't like it so I don't play it"
    Its not a real frustration when they got a ton of content they avoid to make themselves stronger.
    I see. So the only people who have a right to express their opinions are the people who meet your game progress requirements? Is that your take?
    My take is that its a competition, people who play it casually, just for a few rewards, or are clearly not ready to compete and assume that they will probably lose. HAVE NO SAYING, on how the competition should be. Why should people that don't care much about building a roster to compete, have a saying at all? They don't care that much about improving their accounts to compete in the first place.
    How many times are you going to say competition? If it was a drinking game, there would he casualties.
    The idea that people at an earlier stage of progress are just casual and don't care about building their Roster is your own personal judgment. An elitist one at that.
    Which you're completely entitled to. You're allowed to have your own opinions. Stop trying to push them off as truth and discredit the concerns of others. You don't speak for everyone just because you put time and effort into the game.
    People are capable of speaking for themselves and their own experience without being reduced to an ego trip.
    Its not my opinion, it's Kabam's take on it.
    I happen agree with it. I am not pushing my opinion, they don't wanna swallow Kabam's decision you think they will swallow the opinion of a simple player?
    See what you call an ego trip, I call hard work and dedication.
    As an example you have a great resume for an 8 year MCoC player, you got credentials, licenses and all the bells and whistles. On paper you are great, now regarding a hand on experience not so much
    So yeah say I am on a ego trip, i call it work and dedication and hands on experience.
    Okay, I'm calling bull****. Nowhere did Kabam express the ignorant criticism you've been expressing towards other Players on here.
    I have experience here. I don't throw it in anyone's face. Guess we're all different people. Sorry you have a hard time seeing that everyone is valid for where they're at, but I've put work into my Account just like any other Player.
    Regardless, there is no graduation for sharing opinions. This is a Forum to discuss the game, and no one's say holds more weight than anyone else's, save for as it pertains to their claims.
    People are expressing themselves and their own views, for where they're at, with their own struggles and experience. You don't get to say who is valid and who isn't. You can certainly state your own experience in the game if that makes you happy. You can't use that to bully people out of discussions on the Forum, and you can't use that as a be-all-end-all for their points.
    You've put work in. Good for you. Now back to the actual points people are making.



  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    Talk about reading too much into it. Lol. I'm done with the same insanity circles. I'll be back when someone wants to discuss ideas.
  • KTPrimalKTPrimal Member Posts: 121

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
    Thats happening now without the change. That change would be more in line with a competitive environment. Possibly encourage players to push progression a bit if they wanted the TB/PG pot instead of the UC/Cav pot. Change is tough for many people though. But changes and improvements to the mode to appear more competitive instead of just calling it a competitive mode may allow casual players to see it that way.
    Hope you are right, people are stubborn though.
    I mean look at this initial thread, they wanted more points for beating a bigger account.
    I believe more something should be rewarded for beating a higher ranked player. Barely a difference between beating a top ranked player and a lower ranked player. The points and scoring system is very predictable to where it's more about how many marks you use for the matches you play.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★
    edited September 2023

    Deal with it.
  • ReignkingTWReignkingTW Member Posts: 2,774 ★★★★★


    Deal with it.

  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★
    edited September 2023

    Talk about reading too much into it. Lol. I'm done with the same insanity circles. I'll be back when someone wants to discuss ideas.

    How can i read too much into a FACT? LOL
    They make the game, they make the rules, they set their expectations. Reading too little into it is being in denial. 🤣
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★
    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
    Thats happening now without the change. That change would be more in line with a competitive environment. Possibly encourage players to push progression a bit if they wanted the TB/PG pot instead of the UC/Cav pot. Change is tough for many people though. But changes and improvements to the mode to appear more competitive instead of just calling it a competitive mode may allow casual players to see it that way.
    Hope you are right, people are stubborn though.
    I mean look at this initial thread, they wanted more points for beating a bigger account.
    I believe more something should be rewarded for beating a higher ranked player. Barely a difference between beating a top ranked player and a lower ranked player. The points and scoring system is very predictable to where it's more about how many marks you use for the matches you play.
    Higher ranked yes, bigger account is not the same as higher ranked though.
    Rarely happened before that a Silver 2 played someone on Silver 1...
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
    Thats happening now without the change. That change would be more in line with a competitive environment. Possibly encourage players to push progression a bit if they wanted the TB/PG pot instead of the UC/Cav pot. Change is tough for many people though. But changes and improvements to the mode to appear more competitive instead of just calling it a competitive mode may allow casual players to see it that way.
    Hope you are right, people are stubborn though.
    I mean look at this initial thread, they wanted more points for beating a bigger account.
    I believe more something should be rewarded for beating a higher ranked player. Barely a difference between beating a top ranked player and a lower ranked player. The points and scoring system is very predictable to where it's more about how many marks you use for the matches you play.
    Now that I think about it, that could be a possibility that dissuades advantage-taking. If there was a Points system similar to Arenas where beating a larger Opponent gives more Points, and smaller gives less. I'm not sure how the practical implementation would look for that, but I like where the idea is coming from.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    lol, I love how you're just talking about the GC.
  • KTPrimalKTPrimal Member Posts: 121

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
    Thats happening now without the change. That change would be more in line with a competitive environment. Possibly encourage players to push progression a bit if they wanted the TB/PG pot instead of the UC/Cav pot. Change is tough for many people though. But changes and improvements to the mode to appear more competitive instead of just calling it a competitive mode may allow casual players to see it that way.
    Hope you are right, people are stubborn though.
    I mean look at this initial thread, they wanted more points for beating a bigger account.
    I believe more something should be rewarded for beating a higher ranked player. Barely a difference between beating a top ranked player and a lower ranked player. The points and scoring system is very predictable to where it's more about how many marks you use for the matches you play.
    Higher ranked yes, bigger account is not the same as higher ranked though.
    Rarely happened before that a Silver 2 played someone on Silver 1...
    Yeah not much you can do about accounts being bigger other than improving your own. Kabam would have to add some kind of deck point system where you're rewarded for having a stronger deck, but also penalized if you lose since it could reward the other player with a lower deck rating more points. If deck ratings are similar it could offset. That'd be tricky. How AW is calculated could be worth exploring adding to BGs system. BGs is such a good mode the possibilities are endless.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★
    edited September 2023

    Here is another one, yeah I know they are not telling people to go "kick rocks"; but they are definitely pointing to the direction where the rocks are.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    You can stop spamming the comments from Mods anytime now.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★
    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
    Thats happening now without the change. That change would be more in line with a competitive environment. Possibly encourage players to push progression a bit if they wanted the TB/PG pot instead of the UC/Cav pot. Change is tough for many people though. But changes and improvements to the mode to appear more competitive instead of just calling it a competitive mode may allow casual players to see it that way.
    Hope you are right, people are stubborn though.
    I mean look at this initial thread, they wanted more points for beating a bigger account.
    I believe more something should be rewarded for beating a higher ranked player. Barely a difference between beating a top ranked player and a lower ranked player. The points and scoring system is very predictable to where it's more about how many marks you use for the matches you play.
    Higher ranked yes, bigger account is not the same as higher ranked though.
    Rarely happened before that a Silver 2 played someone on Silver 1...
    Yeah not much you can do about accounts being bigger other than improving your own. Kabam would have to add some kind of deck point system where you're rewarded for having a stronger deck, but also penalized if you lose since it could reward the other player with a lower deck rating more points. If deck ratings are similar it could offset. That'd be tricky. How AW is calculated could be worth exploring adding to BGs system. BGs is such a good mode the possibilities are endless.
    That's GC though, there is a post I saw from the guy who got disqualified, saying something about searching matches for 6 points if he won or minus a ridiculous ammount if he lost, or something like that.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★

    You can stop spamming the comments from Mods anytime now.

    I will wait for a mods warning, thank you. You can't push that on me that's ignorant.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
    Thats happening now without the change. That change would be more in line with a competitive environment. Possibly encourage players to push progression a bit if they wanted the TB/PG pot instead of the UC/Cav pot. Change is tough for many people though. But changes and improvements to the mode to appear more competitive instead of just calling it a competitive mode may allow casual players to see it that way.
    Hope you are right, people are stubborn though.
    I mean look at this initial thread, they wanted more points for beating a bigger account.
    I believe more something should be rewarded for beating a higher ranked player. Barely a difference between beating a top ranked player and a lower ranked player. The points and scoring system is very predictable to where it's more about how many marks you use for the matches you play.
    Higher ranked yes, bigger account is not the same as higher ranked though.
    Rarely happened before that a Silver 2 played someone on Silver 1...
    Yeah not much you can do about accounts being bigger other than improving your own. Kabam would have to add some kind of deck point system where you're rewarded for having a stronger deck, but also penalized if you lose since it could reward the other player with a lower deck rating more points. If deck ratings are similar it could offset. That'd be tricky. How AW is calculated could be worth exploring adding to BGs system. BGs is such a good mode the possibilities are endless.
    That's GC though, there is a post I saw from the guy who got disqualified, saying something about searching matches for 6 points if he won or minus a ridiculous ammount if he lost, or something like that.
    That Post was shut down, and to be honest it gave the impression of justifying at best.
  • KTPrimalKTPrimal Member Posts: 121

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    KTPrimal said:

    Can't even suggest changes to improve the mode competitively without those getting argued. The same people disputing the people grieving over matchmaking are disputing improvements for more competitive implementations.

    That's what keeps me enganged on this threads, how can you ask for something more competitive, when you have people complaining its too hard already. That is literally putting salt on a wound.
    A lot of those complaints originate from how the mode was introduced. Its been a year and its season 11 and the best change to the mode was seeding. Maybe introducing ranked and unranked BGs will help. Playing unranked will only allow objectives to be completed. So trophie accumulation will be slower unless playing ranked.
    There is no fixing now from introduction to today. Several people suggested making a 2nd BG for UC/Cav. If that ever happened TBs and new Paragons would be fuming from being stuck with try hards.
    Thats happening now without the change. That change would be more in line with a competitive environment. Possibly encourage players to push progression a bit if they wanted the TB/PG pot instead of the UC/Cav pot. Change is tough for many people though. But changes and improvements to the mode to appear more competitive instead of just calling it a competitive mode may allow casual players to see it that way.
    Hope you are right, people are stubborn though.
    I mean look at this initial thread, they wanted more points for beating a bigger account.
    I believe more something should be rewarded for beating a higher ranked player. Barely a difference between beating a top ranked player and a lower ranked player. The points and scoring system is very predictable to where it's more about how many marks you use for the matches you play.
    Now that I think about it, that could be a possibility that dissuades advantage-taking. If there was a Points system similar to Arenas where beating a larger Opponent gives more Points, and smaller gives less. I'm not sure how the practical implementation would look for that, but I like where the idea is coming from.
    Would be tough for sure. And would probably require a full restructure of the mode. Making matchups, who you face in matches, how you perform in those matches, and winning or losing matter more can be great. Sort of like AW. You can win/lose that war, but depending on how the alliance performed you get more or less points.
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