I'm assuming they don't want people with hundreds of these trading them in for 7* sig shards and getting "easy" 7* awakening gems (in the name of game balance), but they'd probably be fine if there was an event where whales could spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get "expensive" 7* awakening gems (also in the name of game balance)...
If a handful of players have hundreds of these and these people could get a couple of 7* awakening gems worth of shards that's fine....they aren't going to accumulate hundreds more quickly.... An exchange for 7* awakening shards wouldn't break anything if the max end was set at a 2-3 7* gems for hundreds of 6* ones (if that is the maximum)
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
If a player has hundreds of 6* AGs then they are a big enough whale that getting a 7* AG won't matter.
Even something as little as 100 shards for a generic and 50 for a class would be better than a single sig stone.
No it wouldn't. No reasonably intelligent player would make that trade in general, because there is no inventory cap for 6* AGs. So the only reason to trade them for 7* AG shards would be if you were going to actually form one. Otherwise, some tiny amount of shards would be meaningless, in the sense that the only players actually trading them in would be the ones with hundreds. The people with dozens would just do nothing. So such a trade would not benefit the vast majority of players who have a significant surplus of 6* AGs but not enough to form 7* AGs with such a trade.
Any exchange rate for 7* AG shards is either too small for most players, or so large that Kabam would have to cap the amount that the top whales have accumulated. And both options defeat the purpose of creating the trade in the first place, which is to give players with unusable 6* AGs a way to actually use them.
I'm not selling my awakening gems for 1 sig stone... shards should've been the way to go.
I'm not either, that is not remotely fair value for a generic gem.
That's cause you both probably see some kind of value in them. This exchange is for the people that see absolute no value.
Kabam is still valuing them high, not me. They are still final milestone rewards in a lot of content.
I don't even use them anymore, but there is no way I am trading them for 1 single stone, that is absurd.
Ok that is your choice, the question is what are you going to do with them? Personally for me I got 274 6* and only 8 of them unawakened that I either don't care for or have them as 7*... And around 30 AGs They are high value because they are high milestones in what?... EQ?... Its easy for developed Valiants, not auto run easy but almost arena fight difficulty level...
I appreciate having "an option"... and wish we also had "an option" for 5 star AGs.
That said, I think 100 AG shards for class and 250 for generics would have been more in the spirit of "trading up". I suspect most of the people who have "hundreds" of them also got "hundreds" of sig stones in the banquet, and a bit more wouldn't have effected them much more, but would have gone a long way for people who have many, or even dozens.
It will make me think though whether I want to AG new champs as I get the right away to not "waste it", or use it as a sig stone. Right now, I'm still thinking what I want to do with them.
I'm not selling my awakening gems for 1 sig stone... shards should've been the way to go.
I'm not either, that is not remotely fair value for a generic gem.
That's cause you both probably see some kind of value in them. This exchange is for the people that see absolute no value.
Nah, I have 267 6* with only 18 unawakened. I don't see value in 6* awakening gems. I even have romance gems that I haven't used.
Then you are getting something for what you grade as no value; not sure what the problem is. Are you going to hold on to them for sentinental value? Hoping the deal gets better somewhere in the future? In your defense they made a successful TV reality show based on people like that. Nowadays is considered a mental disorder; but that's a complete separate issue.
Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.
The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.
I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
To the extent that’s true,
1) those people aren’t playing the same game as me anyway (I’m a low-spend valiant player with 20 gems who refuses to use one unless I have to)
2) you could have managed this with purchase limits - trade 20 for 7-star AG shards (or whatever number), and/or trade for more than 1 stone, then trade for 1 stone.
It’s just really disappointing to get this when we know 7-star AG shards exist.
Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.
The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.
I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
Why not include selectors as part of the TB EQ that are progression based. We already get those with other items. That way valiant can get improved rewards. Paragon can get something a bit lower and TB gets the existing ones ?
Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.
The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.
I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
Why not include selectors as part of the TB EQ that are progression based. We already get those with other items. That way valiant can get improved rewards. Paragon can get something a bit lower and TB gets the existing ones ?
You just described exactly what Crashed said isn’t the answer. Getting selectors that give valiant rewards for doing a super easy TB EQ isn’t helpful
I'm not selling my awakening gems for 1 sig stone... shards should've been the way to go.
I'm not either, that is not remotely fair value for a generic gem.
That's cause you both probably see some kind of value in them. This exchange is for the people that see absolute no value.
Nah, I have 267 6* with only 18 unawakened. I don't see value in 6* awakening gems. I even have romance gems that I haven't used.
Then you are getting something for what you grade as no value; not sure what the problem is. Are you going to hold on to them for sentinental value? Hoping the deal gets better somewhere in the future? In your defense they made a successful TV reality show based on people like that. Nowadays is considered a mental disorder; but that's a complete separate issue.
The problem is the return is trash. And no, I'm not a hoarder as your insinuating. You can go ahead and insult someone else with your responses.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
To the extent that’s true,
1) those people aren’t playing the same game as me anyway (I’m a low-spend valiant player with 20 gems who refuses to use one unless I have to)
2) you could have managed this with purchase limits - trade 20 for 7-star AG shards (or whatever number), and/or trade for more than 1 stone, then trade for 1 stone.
It’s just really disappointing to get this when we know 7-star AG shards exist.
20 for a 7* AG is ridiculously low, and do you remember what happened when they did a trade like what you are asking for in the past? Yes it was a timed event; but people were fuming cause they didn't have enough.
Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.
The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.
I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
To be 100% fair here, that's something you guys need to think about anytime you release a new progression title. Not a year or more later.
This thread is hilarious... Person 1: I got this useless things in my inventory, and I keep on getting them over and over... Person 2: Oh man that sucks.. I can give you 1 dollar for it... Person 1: 1 dollar?! No way 5 dollars at least... No way I am selling it for 1 dollar I rather keep it.. Person 2: ok fine keep it.. Person 1: Yes Person 2: Yes
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.
All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.
Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
I wasn't exaggerating, I looked at the data and there are players with hundreds of them... Sources aren't limited, they have been in the Banquet/gifting crystals for years.
Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.
Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
So... given this new trade-in facility and the situation (of ppl having anywhere from a doze to dozen of gems they dont or cant use) maybe it's time to switch the top tier reward for monthly themed rewards from a generic 6* gem to something like 500-1000 7* gem shards?
I’m good with this I personally care more about resources relevant to the top rarity champs that I can invest in more long term than investing in lower tier champs outside of 6* trophy champs the awakening gems have little value for me so thanks for this even though I don’t have a lot in my inventory.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
So again this really only benifits the major spenders who have 100s of gems but the majority of people might have 10 or so. And well you work for kabam so I doubt you really pay for anything so the example of u have something in-game doesn't really carry much weight does it? In fact you're credibility is shot. Especially after it's came out that you just add stuff to select accounts because you feel like it. I'm sure you and your friends have a ton of stuff that other people don't.
Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.
The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.
I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
This is why I respect the he** out of Crashed. As a player of mcoc himself, he's not out of touch of the game and is well-aware of most situations. I understand players criticizing Kabam as a company, but there's no reason to attack specific individuals who genuinely care, act, and professionally respond/address player's concerns.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
So again this really only benifits the major spenders who have 100s of gems but the majority of people might have 10 or so. And well you work for kabam so I doubt you really pay for anything so the example of u have something in-game doesn't really carry much weight does it? In fact you're credibility is shot. Especially after it's came out that you just add stuff to select accounts because you feel like it. I'm sure you and your friends have a ton of stuff that other people don't.
I don’t recall this being a thing ever you got the receipts on this allegation and proof positive of it?
Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.
The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.
I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
To be 100% fair here, that's something you guys need to think about anytime you release a new progression title. Not a year or more later.
This actually doesn't change anything. Even if we hadn't released Paragon or Valiant, the TB EQ rewards still wouldn't be appropriate for current end-game players, regardless of the fact they would still be called Thronebreaker.
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I don't even use them anymore, but there is no way I am trading them for 1 single stone, that is absurd.
Any exchange rate for 7* AG shards is either too small for most players, or so large that Kabam would have to cap the amount that the top whales have accumulated. And both options defeat the purpose of creating the trade in the first place, which is to give players with unusable 6* AGs a way to actually use them.
Personally for me I got 274 6* and only 8 of them unawakened that I either don't care for or have them as 7*... And around 30 AGs
They are high value because they are high milestones in what?... EQ?... Its easy for developed Valiants, not auto run easy but almost arena fight difficulty level...
That said, I think 100 AG shards for class and 250 for generics would have been more in the spirit of "trading up". I suspect most of the people who have "hundreds" of them also got "hundreds" of sig stones in the banquet, and a bit more wouldn't have effected them much more, but would have gone a long way for people who have many, or even dozens.
It will make me think though whether I want to AG new champs as I get the right away to not "waste it", or use it as a sig stone. Right now, I'm still thinking what I want to do with them.
Are you going to hold on to them for sentinental value? Hoping the deal gets better somewhere in the future? In your defense they made a successful TV reality show based on people like that. Nowadays is considered a mental disorder; but that's a complete separate issue.
I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
1) those people aren’t playing the same game as me anyway (I’m a low-spend valiant player with 20 gems who refuses to use one unless I have to)
2) you could have managed this with purchase limits - trade 20 for 7-star AG shards (or whatever number), and/or trade for more than 1 stone, then trade for 1 stone.
It’s just really disappointing to get this when we know 7-star AG shards exist.
I’m typically critical but y’all are acting absurd
Person 1: I got this useless things in my inventory, and I keep on getting them over and over...
Person 2: Oh man that sucks.. I can give you 1 dollar for it...
Person 1: 1 dollar?! No way 5 dollars at least... No way I am selling it for 1 dollar I rather keep it..
Person 2: ok fine keep it..
Person 1: Yes
Person 2: Yes