GOLD. Is it really an issue?

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  • DaMunkDaMunk Member Posts: 1,883 ★★★★
    Riegel wrote: »
    DaMunk wrote: »
    How is it wrong? If we both r4 a 5* it cost us both the same amount. So outside of map 6 we have similar gold demands for ranking a champ. Outside of AQ and ranking there isn't much else gold is used for.
    Gold realms are nice. I understand that but it didn't change anything for me. I didn't even do the last one so can't say I benefited from those. What's different is time and time spent in arena over the past few years. I've got more arena wins than both of you combined. Honestly I understand your frustration but over time everyone will get enough gold unless they're doing map 6 constantly. If they add map 7 it will force more people to do more map 6 and at that point I can see a need to maybe make an adjustment. If you think map 6 is expensive I'd hate to see the cost of map 7.
    My question should be how am I able to have a deep roster and plenty of gold when others can't? A few things..I don't run map 6 much right now, I've done more arena than them and I've probably been playing longer. That's sort of been my point the entire time. If you keep at it sooner or later you'll get enough gold. How do I know? Been there.

    I thought you meant ranking a 5* cost more or less than ranking a 6*. Yes, we both pay the same to rank a champ unless we use differing amount of basic/class iso.

    Yes, it seems your answer is don't run map 6 as much.

    I really don't have an answer for map 6. That's a tough one. It was meant to be cost prohibitive. It's doing exactly that. Is it to much? Maybe or maybe not. Sort of difficult for me to say because I don't run it 5 days a week and don't want to do the math. How much gold do you donate a week?
  • RiegelRiegel Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    To add to that you speak in absolutes like you know kabams stance. This is incredibly misleading to people who read the forum, you never have and never will know kabams stance unless they specifically state there stance. Which they haven't on this topic.
  • RiegelRiegel Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    DaMunk wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    DaMunk wrote: »
    How is it wrong? If we both r4 a 5* it cost us both the same amount. So outside of map 6 we have similar gold demands for ranking a champ. Outside of AQ and ranking there isn't much else gold is used for.
    Gold realms are nice. I understand that but it didn't change anything for me. I didn't even do the last one so can't say I benefited from those. What's different is time and time spent in arena over the past few years. I've got more arena wins than both of you combined. Honestly I understand your frustration but over time everyone will get enough gold unless they're doing map 6 constantly. If they add map 7 it will force more people to do more map 6 and at that point I can see a need to maybe make an adjustment. If you think map 6 is expensive I'd hate to see the cost of map 7.
    My question should be how am I able to have a deep roster and plenty of gold when others can't? A few things..I don't run map 6 much right now, I've done more arena than them and I've probably been playing longer. That's sort of been my point the entire time. If you keep at it sooner or later you'll get enough gold. How do I know? Been there.

    I thought you meant ranking a 5* cost more or less than ranking a 6*. Yes, we both pay the same to rank a champ unless we use differing amount of basic/class iso.

    Yes, it seems your answer is don't run map 6 as much.

    I really don't have an answer for map 6. That's a tough one. It was meant to be cost prohibitive. It's doing exactly that. Is it to much? Maybe or maybe not. Sort of difficult for me to say because I don't run it 5 days a week and don't want to do the math. How much gold do you donate a week?

    500,000 with no return per week. It's 14 times more expensive than map 5. The math is on my OP.
  • DaMunkDaMunk Member Posts: 1,883 ★★★★
    Riegel wrote: »
    DaMunk wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    DaMunk wrote: »
    How is it wrong? If we both r4 a 5* it cost us both the same amount. So outside of map 6 we have similar gold demands for ranking a champ. Outside of AQ and ranking there isn't much else gold is used for.
    Gold realms are nice. I understand that but it didn't change anything for me. I didn't even do the last one so can't say I benefited from those. What's different is time and time spent in arena over the past few years. I've got more arena wins than both of you combined. Honestly I understand your frustration but over time everyone will get enough gold unless they're doing map 6 constantly. If they add map 7 it will force more people to do more map 6 and at that point I can see a need to maybe make an adjustment. If you think map 6 is expensive I'd hate to see the cost of map 7.
    My question should be how am I able to have a deep roster and plenty of gold when others can't? A few things..I don't run map 6 much right now, I've done more arena than them and I've probably been playing longer. That's sort of been my point the entire time. If you keep at it sooner or later you'll get enough gold. How do I know? Been there.

    I thought you meant ranking a 5* cost more or less than ranking a 6*. Yes, we both pay the same to rank a champ unless we use differing amount of basic/class iso.

    Yes, it seems your answer is don't run map 6 as much.

    I really don't have an answer for map 6. That's a tough one. It was meant to be cost prohibitive. It's doing exactly that. Is it to much? Maybe or maybe not. Sort of difficult for me to say because I don't run it 5 days a week and don't want to do the math. How much gold do you donate a week?

    500,000 with no return per week. It's 14 times more expensive than map 5. The math is on my OP.

    Yeah I don't know. That's pretty rough...lots of gold. I think you'll find in the future it will be easier for you. Your going through some serious growing pains. Fairly sure you would be fine with just the AQ cost. It's the combined AQ and rank up costs that are killing you. You'll get to the point you don't rank champs up that often and that would help immensely. Just my to cents anyway. Best of luck. Don't think I'm saying gold doesn't need to be looked at but you sort of got grouped in with some wanting gold for nothing. There are lots of people asking just that because they don't want to grind. I do like the idea of gold boosts. Maybe a 15% for an hour and a 25% for 12. Sort of like XP.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
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    Riegel wrote: »
    To add to that you speak in absolutes like you know kabams stance. This is incredibly misleading to people who read the forum, you never have and never will know kabams stance unless they specifically state there stance. Which they haven't on this topic.

    They've already responded to the topic, and have commented many, many times on Resources. Here is an example, minus the bit about ranting.
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/345751#Comment_345751
    I also understand how the system operates, and am not pulling it out of thin air. Resources are balanced and accounted for. That's not a hard concept to understand, and saying it's misinformation is petty to be honest. Everything is tracked and accounted for in the game. That's not really conjecture so much as it is fact. It's not just a bunch of random information left to run amok. Things are considered when being altered. Pretty sure that's simple to gather. You just refuse to accept that one area affects the other.
  • HulksmasshhHulksmasshh Member Posts: 742 ★★★
    Riegel wrote: »
    I’m sensing a pattern here.

    Community: “We need more 5 star shards!”
    - ”No the game is perfectly balanced the way it is”
    *Kabam introduces more 5* shards into the contest*
    Community: “We need more T1A’s to level-up our 5*s!”
    - “No the game is perfectly balanced the way it is”
    *Kabam introduces more sources of T1A*
    Community: “We need more gold to level-up our 5* and 6*s!”
    - “No the game is perfectly balanced the way it is”
    *TBD what Kabam will do*

    *Kabam releases awesome new challenge content made by the community*
    - “THIS IS TOO HARD!!”

    You're still misrepresenting what I said, I see. Again, check your facts.

    I said I found it to be a fair challenge. What I said was if other people find it hard, we shouldn't hate on them. People have a habit of jumping on others for a lack of experience and it's not appropriate. Big difference between a lack of experience and wanting to change the entire system for spending habits.

    What does any of what he said have to do with you? I'm so confused as to why you think people are talking about you.

    I do call out your lack of experience because IT IS appropriate. I don't go in to Apple and tell them how to make iPhones, I'm sure they know how to do that better than I.

    No one wants to change the entire system of anything, simply saying from my viewpoint gold needs a small buff.

    Experience has nothing to do with the conversation and calling people out for it has no place on the Forum, regardless of how you try to apply it to the conversation. There are actually rules that prohibit it.

    But experience has everything to do with the conversation. Different players are at different stages in the game. When it is understood where someone is at in the game, it becomes more beneficial to everyone to understand where that player is coming from. You can get a general tell from someone's profile where they are at in the game. No one is calling anyone out.

    A good example of resource imbalance in the past was the availability of T4CC. Many had none and some had so many they didn't bother opening crystals because they would expire. A good solution Kabam did was offer more ways for those in need of T4CC to acquire them, such as the Glory store and more T4CC fragment crystals scattered across events/quests. I'm hoping Kabam offers a similar solution with gold, offering those in need of gold more ways to acquire it - whether it be offers, solo events, quests, or hopefully this new multiplayer mode. Whatever it is, when faced with resource imbalances in the past Kabam has been slow but effective in providing the right solutions.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    You mean people make assumptions, pass judgment, and discredit someone's point of view with their Profile? Sure. Throwing it into a conversation is shaming someone based on their experience and it isn't even accurate. You can tell some Stats and Top Champs from a Profile. That's it. You can't tell much else. It serves only one purpose, to put people down. You can word it how you like. I call BS.
  • RiegelRiegel Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    Goind
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    Riegel wrote: »
    To add to that you speak in absolutes like you know kabams stance. This is incredibly misleading to people who read the forum, you never have and never will know kabams stance unless they specifically state there stance. Which they haven't on this topic.

    They've already responded to the topic, and have commented many, many times on Resources. Here is an example, minus the bit about ranting.
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/345751#Comment_345751
    I also understand how the system operates, and am not pulling it out of thin air. Resources are balanced and accounted for. That's not a hard concept to understand, and saying it's misinformation is petty to be honest. Everything is tracked and accounted for in the game. That's not really conjecture so much as it is fact. It's not just a bunch of random information left to run amok. Things are considered when being altered. Pretty sure that's simple to gather. You just refuse to accept that one area affects the other.

    I know they've responded, they gave no answer. I've pointed our their reply dozens of times. There is no transparency in their reply.

    You may understand how it operates, it's simple yeah gold in, gold out. You don't understand how much is needed.

    Saying it is misinformation is not petty it's the truth. You have no idea kabams position on gold they've never said if its good as is or being looked at.

    You don't know what kabam tracks, stop calling things fact that are not fact.

    I don't refuse to accept that one area affect the other. another lie.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Riegel wrote: »
    Goind
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    Riegel wrote: »
    To add to that you speak in absolutes like you know kabams stance. This is incredibly misleading to people who read the forum, you never have and never will know kabams stance unless they specifically state there stance. Which they haven't on this topic.

    They've already responded to the topic, and have commented many, many times on Resources. Here is an example, minus the bit about ranting.
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/345751#Comment_345751
    I also understand how the system operates, and am not pulling it out of thin air. Resources are balanced and accounted for. That's not a hard concept to understand, and saying it's misinformation is petty to be honest. Everything is tracked and accounted for in the game. That's not really conjecture so much as it is fact. It's not just a bunch of random information left to run amok. Things are considered when being altered. Pretty sure that's simple to gather. You just refuse to accept that one area affects the other.

    I know they've responded, they gave no answer. I've pointed our their reply dozens of times. There is no transparency in their reply.

    You may understand how it operates, it's simple yeah gold in, gold out. You don't understand how much is needed.

    Saying it is misinformation is not petty it's the truth. You have no idea kabams position on gold they've never said if its good as is or being looked at.

    You don't know what kabam tracks, stop calling things fact that are not fact.

    I don't refuse to accept that one area affect the other. another lie.

    Clearly you're just arguing at this point so good luck with your request.
  • RiegelRiegel Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    You mean people make assumptions, pass judgment, and discredit someone's point of view with their Profile? Sure. Throwing it into a conversation is shaming someone based on their experience and it isn't even accurate. You can tell some Stats and Top Champs from a Profile. That's it. You can't tell much else. It serves only one purpose, to put people down. You can word it how you like. I call BS.

    Dude, seriously you are taking this way too personally. No one is attacking you. No one is passing judgement on you, no one is trying to put you down.

    The only thing I take issue with is you are speaking in absolutes, like you know 100% for fact things you have no way of knowing.
  • RiegelRiegel Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    Riegel wrote: »
    Goind
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    Riegel wrote: »
    To add to that you speak in absolutes like you know kabams stance. This is incredibly misleading to people who read the forum, you never have and never will know kabams stance unless they specifically state there stance. Which they haven't on this topic.

    They've already responded to the topic, and have commented many, many times on Resources. Here is an example, minus the bit about ranting.
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/345751#Comment_345751
    I also understand how the system operates, and am not pulling it out of thin air. Resources are balanced and accounted for. That's not a hard concept to understand, and saying it's misinformation is petty to be honest. Everything is tracked and accounted for in the game. That's not really conjecture so much as it is fact. It's not just a bunch of random information left to run amok. Things are considered when being altered. Pretty sure that's simple to gather. You just refuse to accept that one area affects the other.

    I know they've responded, they gave no answer. I've pointed our their reply dozens of times. There is no transparency in their reply.

    You may understand how it operates, it's simple yeah gold in, gold out. You don't understand how much is needed.

    Saying it is misinformation is not petty it's the truth. You have no idea kabams position on gold they've never said if its good as is or being looked at.

    You don't know what kabam tracks, stop calling things fact that are not fact.

    I don't refuse to accept that one area affect the other. another lie.

    Clearly you're just arguing at this point so good luck with your request.

    I'm not. Thank you I hope we get a much needed response soon.
  • C0atHang3rC0atHang3r Member Posts: 78
    All I know is gold needs an update. If you are tying to play legit it’s rough.

    Let’s stop pretending we know the inner workings of Kabam and let them tell us their position.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Riegel wrote: »
    You mean people make assumptions, pass judgment, and discredit someone's point of view with their Profile? Sure. Throwing it into a conversation is shaming someone based on their experience and it isn't even accurate. You can tell some Stats and Top Champs from a Profile. That's it. You can't tell much else. It serves only one purpose, to put people down. You can word it how you like. I call BS.

    Dude, seriously you are taking this way too personally. No one is attacking you. No one is passing judgement on you, no one is trying to put you down.

    The only thing I take issue with is you are speaking in absolutes, like you know 100% for fact things you have no way of knowing.

    I have an understanding of how things work, yes. I also have the information provided to go on. If you want to argue I don't know 100%, that's arbitrary. I don't work for them. None of us do. However, with a good basis of knowledge of how in-game currency and interdependent systems operate, it's very simple to ascertain. Nowhere did I say any of my thoughts are absolute fact. That's how you're taking my wording.
  • roastedbagelroastedbagel Member Posts: 350 ★★★
    There's a lot of nonsense in here I'm not gonna read but I will say this:

    It blows my mind how the general consensus the last couple weeks is how there's a clear shortage of gold, so what does kabam do?

    Release a halls of healing seemingly out of nowhere with no announcement. Why couldn't they do halls of fortune?

    It's because the game team and the community are so far detached from each other its sad. I feel like it should be a requirement for someone from the game team to spend 10 minutes a day skimming the forums just to get a general sense of the community's temperature.

    Again, clearly there's a massive disconnect and unfortunately it seems like mike/adora job as community managers aren't bridging that gap (perhaps not at the fault of them). And that's a very scary thing.
  • HulksmasshhHulksmasshh Member Posts: 742 ★★★
    You mean people make assumptions, pass judgment, and discredit someone's point of view with their Profile? Sure. Throwing it into a conversation is shaming someone based on their experience and it isn't even accurate. You can tell some Stats and Top Champs from a Profile. That's it. You can't tell much else. It serves only one purpose, to put people down. You can word it how you like. I call BS.

    Yes you can make accurate assumptions where someone is at in the game by their profile. A profile can tell you how many arena fights were won, what alliance someone is in, what AW/AQ ranks they get, what their prestige is generally around, how many and what titles they have achieved, how many quest fights they won, and an estimate of how long they've been playing the game(season summoner titles). The profile can tell you a lot. When someone makes a point of view of how the game should be at a level they are not in, that point of view does not hold as much merit. It works the same both ways. Everyone is free to express their own opinion but if you read the last 10 pages of the thread there's a disconnect about what is being discussed. No one is discrediting or passing judgement on anyone from just a profile though. That part can happen when you hear what they have to say on the forum.
  • C0atHang3rC0atHang3r Member Posts: 78
    Riegel wrote: »
    You mean people make assumptions, pass judgment, and discredit someone's point of view with their Profile? Sure. Throwing it into a conversation is shaming someone based on their experience and it isn't even accurate. You can tell some Stats and Top Champs from a Profile. That's it. You can't tell much else. It serves only one purpose, to put people down. You can word it how you like. I call BS.

    Dude, seriously you are taking this way too personally. No one is attacking you. No one is passing judgement on you, no one is trying to put you down.

    The only thing I take issue with is you are speaking in absolutes, like you know 100% for fact things you have no way of knowing.

    I have an understanding of how things work, yes. I also have the information provided to go on. If you want to argue I don't know 100%, that's arbitrary. I don't work for them. None of us do. However, with a good basis of knowledge of how in-game currency and interdependent systems operate, it's very simple to ascertain. Nowhere did I say any of my thoughts are absolute fact. That's how you're taking my wording.

    You do say “things ARE” or “this IS” a lot. Just saying.

    I have to agree. You talk like you know things you can’t know.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Okay, this is just word circles. My words are my words. I speak for myself. I'm not making apologies for the way I speak. The OP is free to ask for an increase. I do not agree that the system is broken. As for the rest of the personal comments, it speaks for itself. The same antics have been going on as long as I've been here. I'm out.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    There's a lot of nonsense in here I'm not gonna read but I will say this:

    It blows my mind how the general consensus the last couple weeks is how there's a clear shortage of gold, so what does kabam do?

    Release a halls of healing seemingly out of nowhere with no announcement. Why couldn't they do halls of fortune?

    It's because the game team and the community are so far detached from each other its sad. I feel like it should be a requirement for someone from the game team to spend 10 minutes a day skimming the forums just to get a general sense of the community's temperature.

    Again, clearly there's a massive disconnect and unfortunately it seems like mike/adora job as community managers aren't bridging that gap (perhaps not at the fault of them). And that's a very scary thing.
    What? AQ changes are days away and revives were temporarily replaced with choas shards. HoH are not some arbitrary addition. The are likely the result of past feedback rrlating to similar events.

    The game team has far more accurate ways of taking the community’s temperature than browsing forums.
  • C0atHang3rC0atHang3r Member Posts: 78
    Okay, this is just word circles. My words are my words. I speak for myself. I'm not making apologies for the way I speak. The OP is free to ask for an increase. I do not agree that the system is broken. As for the rest of the personal comments, it speaks for itself. The same antics have been going on as long as I've been here. I'm out.

    For how long?
  • HulksmasshhHulksmasshh Member Posts: 742 ★★★
    There's a lot of nonsense in here I'm not gonna read but I will say this:

    It blows my mind how the general consensus the last couple weeks is how there's a clear shortage of gold, so what does kabam do?

    Release a halls of healing seemingly out of nowhere with no announcement. Why couldn't they do halls of fortune?

    It's because the game team and the community are so far detached from each other its sad. I feel like it should be a requirement for someone from the game team to spend 10 minutes a day skimming the forums just to get a general sense of the community's temperature.

    Again, clearly there's a massive disconnect and unfortunately it seems like mike/adora job as community managers aren't bridging that gap (perhaps not at the fault of them). And that's a very scary thing.

    While Halls of Fortune would be a great event to have right now, I think it is just a band-aid fix at best. It might alleviate the gold pains some people are having for a short while but if the event doesn't come back again then people would just end up back where they started. I'm banking on this new teased multiplayer-mode to have at least some decent gold reward.
  • Blax4everBlax4ever Member Posts: 683 ★★★
    @DaMunk

    I think you agree with a number of players that Kabam should adjust gold in the game.

    We all have different opinions on how they should go about it.

    I think many agree with you that people who aren’t willing to put some effort into accumulating gold for their account shouldn’t be awarded with a massive gold haul.

    Some are asking for a weekly gold event to get around grinding the arena.

    I personally think getting rid of the 2400 crystal and replacing it with a 5k crystal would be a small adjustment that would still require players to grind the arena just not for 3-5hrs per day to break even. It would be closer to 1-2hrs per day where if a player missed a few days they could catch up.

    As things are structured now, if a player falls behind it’s almost impossible for them to catch up (break even) without there being something like one of those first 2 Gold Realms. As the OP and others have stated the cost associated with progressing in the game has scaled upward but gold has not.

    When you explain in detail what you do to accumulate gold on this forum, other players can evaluate that vs what they are doing. However if you have a stacked roster filled with 5*s and Maxed 4*s roster understand that’s not the majority of players. The structure of the game is so that if you continue to play new players will never be able to catch up to you. (This is perfectly fine) however not being able to catch up to you and not being able to progress at all are different things.

    My post are too damn long
  • charaderdude2charaderdude2 Member Posts: 1,530 ★★★
    Blax4ever wrote: »
    @DaMunk

    I think you agree with a number of players that Kabam should adjust gold in the game.

    We all have different opinions on how they should go about it.

    I think many agree with you that people who aren’t willing to put some effort into accumulating gold for their account shouldn’t be awarded with a massive gold haul.

    Some are asking for a weekly gold event to get around grinding the arena.

    I personally think getting rid of the 2400 crystal and replacing it with a 5k crystal would be a small adjustment that would still require players to grind the arena just not for 3-5hrs per day to break even. It would be closer to 1-2hrs per day where if a player missed a few days they could catch up.

    As things are structured now, if a player falls behind it’s almost impossible for them to catch up (break even) without there being something like one of those first 2 Gold Realms. As the OP and others have stated the cost associated with progressing in the game has scaled upward but gold has not.

    When you explain in detail what you do to accumulate gold on this forum, other players can evaluate that vs what they are doing. However if you have a stacked roster filled with 5*s and Maxed 4*s roster understand that’s not the majority of players. The structure of the game is so that if you continue to play new players will never be able to catch up to you. (This is perfectly fine) however not being able to catch up to you and not being able to progress at all are different things.

    My post are too damn long

    Every post in here is too damn long.
  • Blax4everBlax4ever Member Posts: 683 ★★★
    @charaderdude2

    LOL 😂
  • charaderdude2charaderdude2 Member Posts: 1,530 ★★★
    Blax4ever wrote: »

    @Blax4ever
    Well,Well,Well.I never thought I'd see the day,when someone said that,
    Anyway,I think GOLD,Isn't an issue,Just grind your 'posterior' off in arena,do AW,save 4 gold crystals,It's just y'all doin' too many rank ups.
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  • BosleyBosley Member Posts: 314 ★★★
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    Can we please stop arguing amongst ourselves and direct our feedback towards KABAM
  • RiegelRiegel Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    @Kabam Miike @Kabam Wolf @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Loto @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Porthos @Kabam Lyra @Kabam DK @Ad0ra_

    I can see Kabams activity in the thread, I can see kabam directing other threads here to discuss the topic. Is there any chance we will get a reply from Kabam that has substance on this topic? I know @Kabam Miike said, "give the game time to tune itself." I'm all for doing that. Can we get a tad bit more info?

    I would love to see a simple, "we are looking at it", "we think gold is in a good place"' or " we can't go into detail but be on the lookout for updates coming soon." Anyone of these responses would go a LONG way. Anything that would clue as to how Kabam views this topic would be amazing. Just a smidgen of transparency.

    Tell me I'm completely off base, and gold needs a nerf IDC. I just want something, so I can know, and can get off this carousel ride of

    A few suggestions I have:

    1) Buff gold gain in arena a slight amount, or lower entry cost a slight amount.
    2) Open a gold arena, so we can "work" for gold in a more direct way. (Would prefer non-arena way to obtain)
    3) Open a gold realm once a week that provides 50,000 - 100,000 gold, or drops gold crystals (remove 2,400 gold drop from crystals)
    4) Increase the amount of gold from solo events.
    5) Buff the gold masteries to 10-25% (similar to the anniversary buff of 20%)
    6) Add a gold boost (least liked like idea for me)
    7) Add exploration rewards to Map 6, so map 6 is not 14x more gold cost than map 5
    8) Turn that anniversary buff on 20% more gold/BC from all sources (or make that the new gold mastery.)
  • roastedbagelroastedbagel Member Posts: 350 ★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    The game team has far more accurate ways of taking the community’s temperature than browsing forums.

    LOL how? How does the game team know our current state of mind without hearing our voice?
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