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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,154 ★★★★★
    Mike192 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Mike192 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    You can. Doesn't mean you're going to want to.

    Ohh no, look Ive been caught not knowing the rewards of 100% LoL are guaranteed rankups now let me think of another excuse
    No. You've been caught not acknowledging the fact that we're discussing RNG. You have two Crystals that give random outcomes. One has the ability to grant you your choice of 10 outcomes. The other is a 1 in 6 chance. There are no guarantees with that, and you can say that LoL grants some imaginary precedent, but it really doesn't.
    Chances are higher with the new nexus crystal to get a handful of champs you want. Chances are not the same if u dont know what T5cc you are gonna get. Period.
    First of all, you need to check your math on that. Secondly, who said the Cat MUST be used with the Champ you select? Since when is that a given?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,154 ★★★★★
    For the record, I know LoL gave Rewards that enabled us to Rank any of each Class, but you also have to look to where the game is at right now. T5CCs and 6* Gems are the most rare Resources. They're not likely going to give a few of each Class of those. As for the Nexus, literally nowhere else in the game can you choose one of 10 Champs.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Mike192 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Mike192 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    You can. Doesn't mean you're going to want to.

    Ohh no, look Ive been caught not knowing the rewards of 100% LoL are guaranteed rankups now let me think of another excuse
    No. You've been caught not acknowledging the fact that we're discussing RNG. You have two Crystals that give random outcomes. One has the ability to grant you your choice of 10 outcomes. The other is a 1 in 6 chance. There are no guarantees with that, and you can say that LoL grants some imaginary precedent, but it really doesn't.
    Chances are higher with the new nexus crystal to get a handful of champs you want. Chances are not the same if u dont know what T5cc you are gonna get. Period.
    You’re right, the chance you’ll get the catalysts to rank the champions you choose from the nexus is not the same, it’s magnitudes higher as you’ll have a multitude of chances at that class in a relatively short period of time; Kabam is going to increase the amount of available t5cc and they’ll be doing it fairly soon, and you’re likely to have a rank 2 you will appreciate.
  • Sean_WhoSean_Who Member Posts: 618 ★★★
    At the end of the day, people complained about recieving bad rewards. Now there's a chance at a better reward but ultimately people are still going to get 10 bad choices from their nexus crystal -- and then they're left short of 15k shards too!

    They're event worst off than they were before! This doesn't fix the problem of putting in all the effort to not be rewarded fairly, and that's not even taking into consideration the absolutely stupid idea of forcing players to open the Nexus before their catalysts! That's just greedy and very telling of Kabam and the direction they head in.
  • No_oneukNo_oneuk Member Posts: 1,430 ★★★★★
    edited June 2020
    GroundedWisdom said:


    First of all, you need to check your math on that. Secondly, who said the Cat MUST be used with the Champ you select? Since when is that a given?

    Of course it doesn't have to be used on that champion, but if you don't have a super good champion to rank up as a 6* and you've been wanting corvus and ghost and void for your war and act 6 exploration, but don't have any of them yet, which nexus crystal do you pick? It's a choice that is prompted by the t5cc you get literally seconds later. If you pick cosmic and get corvus, great! Then you get assigned the tech t5cc, well, that sucks, you wish you could rewind time literally seconds earlier and pick tech....

    And that's a very very realistic example. All because of some VERY arbitrary VERY easy to fix issue of - which order the rewards are received in.

    I mean I'm not a computer programmer but I can't imagine it's hard to switch the order of the rewards in the list so it assigns catalyst first. And if they for some reason can't do that, literally, just mail the crystal to you. We KNOW they can do that because that's how they're giving it to people who have already explored it!
  • gohard123gohard123 Member Posts: 1,017 ★★★
    edited June 2020
    Edit: I was gonna say something but realised I am on the forums so doesnt matter in the end
  • LovekLovek Member Posts: 216 ★★★
    .... NO COMMENT... i'm done will all that
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  • Kaan83Kaan83 Member Posts: 1 ★
    All this change does is please the guys who have already 100% the abyss, mostly the big spenders. They get to keep the 45k shards and get a bonus. You just piss of the rest who are already behind in game and now get penalized for not spending and already completing the abbys. It makes absolutely no sense why you would do that, either take the shards away from everyone (this is propably impossible to do) or keep it the same and add the Nexus crystal so that everyone gets the same rewards. This is only fair, the content is the same! Its as hard as it was before isnt it?! Why would you do something like this?! Like you guys dont know this would again cause the gamers to be upset?!! Why are you always so set to creating problems with every change? It blows my mind...
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,689 ★★★★★
    jay_den said:

    Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

    GUYS! The Nexus crystal lets you pick from 10 CHAMPIONS!

    And your 6 star nexus choices are....

    1. Rhino
    2. Spiderman Miles Morales
    3. Kamala Khan
    4. Daredevil OG
    5. Iron Patriot
    6. Civil Warrior
    7. Diablo
    8. Groot
    9. Karnak
    10. Cyclops
    Apparently you didn't read the announcement very well. It's 10 champs but you get to pick the class. The odds of getting nothing useful in this crystal are much lower. But thank you for playing.
  • Vassili24Vassili24 Member Posts: 111 ★
    I like the direction that Kabam is taking with a class based crystal with 10 champs to choose from. I wish this reward would be added for initial completion of the Abyss since just completing a single run is a huge task. Then another at 100%.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,689 ★★★★★
    How the hell do you disagree with that? lol. We can pick the class, therefore the pool of champs is much smaller, therefore the odds of getting a good champ is much larger. I guess some people don't like facts.
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  • Bidzy7Bidzy7 Member Posts: 369 ★★★
    edited June 2020
    CoatHang3r said:

    Bidzy7 said:

    CoatHang3r said:

    Bidzy7 said:

    culturalreference1 said:

    Bidzy7 said:

    @culturalreference1
    they are still getting the crystal.

    Ofc his decisions would be different. As is everyones decision with anything in this game. The game is constantly changing. He could of pulled another champ that he would of rather R3 in his next 6* crystal.

    Players awaken champions all the time to find the next pull is the very champion they just awakened. Or they r5 a champion to then pull a better champion to r5 on the next crystal.

    The point is he made the decision to not only tackle the content as is with the rewards in question but then also use those materials for a specific purpose which was to have a R3 champion. This would of affected his prestige, his ability to do content with more ease. Although not hugely different a R3 champion is still better then a R2 or a 5* R5.

    generally speaking players who don't rush content are in a better space to utilize the rewards better because they will be pulling new champions or duping champions which all have an affect on choices.

    Arguing you should be entitled to something for rushing content and gaining an advantage is just ridiculous. Doom is now available in the basic pool so those 65k 6* shards could pull one of the top prestige champs in the game. But when Abyss first came out you couldn't get doom then. Should all those players then demand they get to reroll those crystals so they can have a chance of getting doom and taking him up instead ?

    yes, meanwhile other players chose not to finish aol early and the game changed. so where does that leave us if your stance is that he's wrong because he chose to rank who he chose to rank?

    also i don't see anybody arguing that anybody is owed anything, i think the only argument truly is if the 15k shards is meaningful enough or not to warrant this kind of response.
    Do you expect players to be reimbursed if they use their AGs on champions then awaken the very same champion in the next crystal ?

    Do you expect players to be entitled to rank down tickets if they ranked up a champion and then a new more powerful champion was added to the crystal/game and they pulled them ?

    Do you expect people to be reimbursed for resources used to finish content because new champions have been released that means you need to use less items as there is better counters ? r4 starlords, Gwenpool etc in LoL compared to r5 Aegon


    Because that's what your basically saying should happen. After all that is the fairness some people seem to be arguing for.
    Bidzy7 said:

    Worknprogress said:


    And you've chose not to do the content yet. Those of us used those resources with the information that abyss rewards were as they were staying. Champions getting added to the game and pulling champions you awakened is part of the game at all times, rewards changing is not necessarily.

    It's absolutely is a disadvantage. One that I'm overly upset over? Not really. But acting like only one side loses out is flat out disingenuous.

    None of this is that big of a deal especially if you weren't doing Abyss anytime soon as by the time you'd be doing it 6* shards will be far more common. They're starting cav difficulty testing in a couple of weeks.

    Lol

    go read DNA's post because clearly your missing the point.

    One side does lose out. one side has 15k less shards for completing the same content. Everything else is all RNG dependent.


    False, one side has 15k less shards and the other is short an informed decision that affects the rarest resources in the game including t5cc, 6* awakening gems, signature stones and above all else the opportunity to target a champion to use those resources on. There are also ancillary disadvantages that impact which gem you use where and which t5cc you target from act 6.
    lol

    Your basically opening another crystal. Its no different to ranking up a champion and then pulling a better champion. Or Kabam introducing a new Champion.
    Kabam Miike said:

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.

    So how about they don't send those that done abyss the crystal is that now fair. You got 4 1/2 6* for completing Abyss 100%. New players get 4 6* for 100% AoL.

    I can simply argue that by completing Abyss when you did you accepted the rewards as there were and therefore forgo any entitlement to any updates on rewards. That would then justify why the rewards now have less shards to make room for this other crystal as an extra incentive for people to 100% the content as people haven't been trying to do the content because they haven't been happy with the rewards. You doing it implies you was happy doing it.
    I don't think they should do that as its only fair those who complete the content get access to this crystal. But thats because i'm not trying to deny others rewards unlike yourself.

    15k 6* shards is basically 6 months of just grinding UC monthly EQ, so pretty valuable resource still.

    Lets not forget that players can't base their choice of class on the two t5cc crystals they get from Abyss. Where as those who already completed it can make that decision.

    but by all means keep asking for players to be denied access to the same resources just because you didn't get to use them in the same way.
    Yes I am basically opening up another crystal when everyone yet to do the Abyss is opening a crystal they can pick and choose who to use the rarest resources in the game on while also having the advantage of knowing they can alternatively choose a crystal relative to their class awakening gem on.

    You’re failing to see the other side here.

    There are two players, player A completed the Abyss, player B has yet to complete the Abyss.

    Player A) Having all available information, foreseeable resources in front of him and based on the hand he was dealt from his 6* pulls makes decisions relating to his gems, stones and catalysts. 3 months after those decisions were made He gets the most powerful crystal ever released for content already completed. But that crystal’s Power is largely tied to and possibly dependent on resources he has already used.

    Player B) Has not completed the Abyss, not faced those decisions and now gets to use his resources on a champion of his choosing rather than letting the game tell him where to use those resources. But he gets 15k shards less than player A.

    Player B has a choice and options Player A did not. This is so advantageous to Player B that the 15k shards Player A has from this is meaningless.

    Sorry that the reasoning gets in the way of being able to pretend player B is disadvantaged.

    Yes and by not completing the Abyss in the same time frame you didn’t get the same rewards, you got better rewards. This is not some minor reward adjustment, the abyss crystal is possibly the most powerful item ever released in the game. Again I’m willing to play the hand I’m dealt but it takes a special kind of person to say playing with a wild card isn’t an advantage to someone who can draw one random card to play against them.

    I’m not denying others rewards, I’m pointing out that in spite of what you think you have a sizable advantage over those that received 15k shards at the cost of making informed decisions.
    No you are also opening a crystal that lets you choose out of 10 champions in a particular class.

    Your complaining about using resources because a new unplanned crystal was added. Kabam had no intention to change rewards. But you know why they are, because of player dissatisfaction displayed most likely by the number of people doing abyss. I don't even remember anyone really complaining about Abyss so this update is kind of a surprise. You accepted the rewards as they were and decided to 100% Abyss. Now what you do with the rewards you got is down to you. You say you don't use sunspot etc well why use the most valuable resources in the game on him and the others.... O prestige right. So what about the advantage you got from that for past 5 months.
    When kabam release a champ that makes Abyss easier like Aegon did to LoL you going to say the rewards should be toned down because its easier for them to now complete and so using less items too.

    The crystal is still RNG the 10 champions doesn't mean you can just pick a champion to get awakened. It simply means you have a greater chance of not getting a bad champ.

    As time passes more champions get added to the pool making it less likely to get the very specific ( "God tier") champs in each class. So should all those players complain because now they have less chance pulling the champion they want compared to you.

    Featured crystals is a way of targeting specific champs, sometimes they are mostly trash other times they have a lot more valuable champs then meme champs. Should those people also complain because the featured crystal available to them has more trash then the ones before. Having the ability to maybe pull a useful champ would of affected their rank up decision. What about those players who used the extra 15k shards on featured and got doom for example.

    All the spenders in the game who haven't done Abyss can now do it and get the extra shards and just wait for after 25th June to get the new crystal. This has created a an unfair advantage no ?

    Act 6 rewards gives you a AG that would of again affected awakening choices and who people would of awakened with the generic gem from abyss. So the players should now also complain that because the AG gave them a specific class they could of saved their generic gem therefore its unfair that others get this better informed choice.

    You are basically asking for people who don't use their resources and can make better rank up decisions to be given less rewards to compensate for you brashness in ranking up champions. Which is just ridiculous.

  • Bidzy7Bidzy7 Member Posts: 369 ★★★
    edited June 2020
    LeNoirFaineant said:

    How the hell do you disagree with that? lol. We can pick the class, therefore the pool of champs is much smaller, therefore the odds of getting a good champ is much larger. I guess some people don't like facts.

    The disagree button is like the equivalent to when you lose an argument in real life so you have to resort to some sort of insult instead like " Well you're just an idiot"
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  • Harith1987Harith1987 Member Posts: 70 ★
    edited June 2020
    Kabam Miike said:

    SuperiorSvee said:

    @Kabam Miike anyway you can show an example of how this works? Do we pick 1 in 6 classes with the selector then we pick 1 in 10 champs with Nexus?

    Do we have to choose the selector before we would get to open the two t5cc? I’m 100% already, but this seems like an important distinction.

    That is correct. You choose a Class, and you receive an Abyss Class Nexus Crystal. When you open that Crystal, you will get 10 choices pulled from the Base Pool of that Class only!

    You do still have to choose the class before you open the T5CC though.
    I can choose the class before Open 2 crystals T5CC !!! What a benefit If I chose mystic class to get mystic champ of 10 options for example and When I open 2 T5cc get ( science and skill ) ?

    People who done 100% will not effect with this change because they have opened 2 T5cc before so when they receive nexus crystal they will be free to get choose , Plus 15k shard!

    Sorry this is not Fair Mr.mike.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 4,092 Guardian
    Worknprogress said:

    StevieManWonder said:

    Worknprogress said:

    StevieManWonder said:

    Worknprogress said:

    StevieManWonder said:

    Cage_1 said:

    I dont get it why some ppl are whyning about new rewards and want some compensation again 😓😓 its like when u buy a TV and 4 weeks later same TV is on sale 50% off! The store not gonna call u back and say here u go take ur money back! Too bad for u! Some ppl will get it at 50% off. U lose some u win some. U can have free stuf every time! Grow up geez! 😓😓

    That’s not even close to an accurate comparison of what is happening. It’s more like someone paid 700 dollars for a tv when it first came out and got a year worth of cable for free and now everyone else that buys that tv for 700 dollars only gets the tv
    Which happens all the time. New phones come out and a certain number of people get the phone plus something extra and when the extra runs out, anyone else just gets a phone.
    Again, that’s not what Abyss was meant to be and it was never advertised like that. There’s a big difference between knowingly purchasing something early to get a benefit than saving up to do something at a later date because you’re expecting not to get screwed.
    Things change, it happens. Do I 100% like how they did this? Of course not but end of the day it's a large positive for players.

    If and when Act 6 gets changed, should everyone who finishes Act 6 Lite get way less rewards than those that already finished it? No one is going to be okay with that. Are those of us that finished it 1st going to get a massive stack of units or anything else worthwhile bc we beat the hard version? Of course not and I don't care one bit about it either.

    It sucks to hear it and deal with it at times but sometimes life just isn't fair. Do I hope at a minimum they figure a way for people to open their t5c 1st before choosing a class? Absolutely. Even if they don't people still get to target a champ they want to invest in and will eventually be able to R3. It's a huge win.
    The problem is saying that “it happens” and “sometimes life isn’t fair” frees Kabam of any wrong-doing or responsibility. This isn’t some random event that occurred because life is fickle, it was a talked about and discussed option that they decided to go through with. It’s not like they came up with this at random, they consciously and willfully chose to make it unfair and that is one of the issues of the game that is killing it.
    Reducing the Act 6 difficulty and giving people the same rewards wouldn't be "fair" to those of us that finished it already. I don't expect squat from that if and when that change gets made.
    Here the difficulty isnt changing, it is remaining the same.... how is that a fair comparison?
    CoatHang3r said:

    Crumb3307 said:

    Samuel030s said:

    loader187 said:

    Ebony_Naw said:

    Doomsfist79 said:

    Samuel030s said:

    People who aren't able to 100% Abyss aren't being that heavily penalized. The difference is legit 5k 6* shards, as small price to pay given that one can chose between ten Champions of a given class.
    Reducing the total amount of shards has clearly led to some outrage, but those who haven't attempted Abyss yet, over five months after it's been released, aren't likely to be close to completing, much less exploring the Abyss. For those that are close to exploring the Abyss, they have till June 25th to do so.

    Just fyi 45k-30k = 15k.. so not 5k difference.. but 15k difference.. The specifically stated this difference in the announcement on the forums.. maybe you haven't read it..

    Lol but you get a crystal back, so that's at least a 10k shard value. So the correct math is 45k-30k+10k = 5k
    thats not the correct math when the people that already did the Abyss get the 15k and the crystal.
    Yes, those who have already explored the Abyss will essentially have gotten 15k extra 6* shards, but the changes to the rewards themselves is again, a difference of 5k shards.
    Not sure you’re understanding. Already done got 45k and are getting the new crystal. People finishing next month, get 30k and the crystal. That’s 15k difference.
    Players who already completed the Abyss are the only ones who have been disadvantaged by being denied options you now have. 15k shards is meaningless in relation to the advantage you now have over them.
    Wrong. We have no prior knowledge, shooting in the dark on class while infact, we can "rank" whoever we end up pulling months later because of no t5cc (screwed by rng again). So we have no choice. I used my initial t5cc already (domino), now i shoot in the dark and hope to pull a t5cc later?
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 4,092 Guardian
    The reason players are upset isn't that rewards are getting buffed. It is the way Kabam is implementing the changes. I could care less about 15k shards. It is the fact that Kabam wants RNG to mess up a moment of victory (exploring abyss), by forcing you to choose a champion before the t5cc that totally influences that decision. Is it possible to reverse that order? Yes. But they dont want to do that. Feels so petty, so cheap. Even when you win, you lose. Absolutely despise that mindset.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    pseudosane said:

    Worknprogress said:

    StevieManWonder said:

    Worknprogress said:

    StevieManWonder said:

    Worknprogress said:

    StevieManWonder said:

    Cage_1 said:

    I dont get it why some ppl are whyning about new rewards and want some compensation again 😓😓 its like when u buy a TV and 4 weeks later same TV is on sale 50% off! The store not gonna call u back and say here u go take ur money back! Too bad for u! Some ppl will get it at 50% off. U lose some u win some. U can have free stuf every time! Grow up geez! 😓😓

    That’s not even close to an accurate comparison of what is happening. It’s more like someone paid 700 dollars for a tv when it first came out and got a year worth of cable for free and now everyone else that buys that tv for 700 dollars only gets the tv
    Which happens all the time. New phones come out and a certain number of people get the phone plus something extra and when the extra runs out, anyone else just gets a phone.
    Again, that’s not what Abyss was meant to be and it was never advertised like that. There’s a big difference between knowingly purchasing something early to get a benefit than saving up to do something at a later date because you’re expecting not to get screwed.
    Things change, it happens. Do I 100% like how they did this? Of course not but end of the day it's a large positive for players.

    If and when Act 6 gets changed, should everyone who finishes Act 6 Lite get way less rewards than those that already finished it? No one is going to be okay with that. Are those of us that finished it 1st going to get a massive stack of units or anything else worthwhile bc we beat the hard version? Of course not and I don't care one bit about it either.

    It sucks to hear it and deal with it at times but sometimes life just isn't fair. Do I hope at a minimum they figure a way for people to open their t5c 1st before choosing a class? Absolutely. Even if they don't people still get to target a champ they want to invest in and will eventually be able to R3. It's a huge win.
    The problem is saying that “it happens” and “sometimes life isn’t fair” frees Kabam of any wrong-doing or responsibility. This isn’t some random event that occurred because life is fickle, it was a talked about and discussed option that they decided to go through with. It’s not like they came up with this at random, they consciously and willfully chose to make it unfair and that is one of the issues of the game that is killing it.
    Reducing the Act 6 difficulty and giving people the same rewards wouldn't be "fair" to those of us that finished it already. I don't expect squat from that if and when that change gets made.
    Here the difficulty isnt changing, it is remaining the same.... how is that a fair comparison?
    CoatHang3r said:

    Crumb3307 said:

    Samuel030s said:

    loader187 said:

    Ebony_Naw said:

    Doomsfist79 said:

    Samuel030s said:

    People who aren't able to 100% Abyss aren't being that heavily penalized. The difference is legit 5k 6* shards, as small price to pay given that one can chose between ten Champions of a given class.
    Reducing the total amount of shards has clearly led to some outrage, but those who haven't attempted Abyss yet, over five months after it's been released, aren't likely to be close to completing, much less exploring the Abyss. For those that are close to exploring the Abyss, they have till June 25th to do so.

    Just fyi 45k-30k = 15k.. so not 5k difference.. but 15k difference.. The specifically stated this difference in the announcement on the forums.. maybe you haven't read it..

    Lol but you get a crystal back, so that's at least a 10k shard value. So the correct math is 45k-30k+10k = 5k
    thats not the correct math when the people that already did the Abyss get the 15k and the crystal.
    Yes, those who have already explored the Abyss will essentially have gotten 15k extra 6* shards, but the changes to the rewards themselves is again, a difference of 5k shards.
    Not sure you’re understanding. Already done got 45k and are getting the new crystal. People finishing next month, get 30k and the crystal. That’s 15k difference.
    Players who already completed the Abyss are the only ones who have been disadvantaged by being denied options you now have. 15k shards is meaningless in relation to the advantage you now have over them.
    Wrong. We have no prior knowledge, shooting in the dark on class while infact, we can "rank" whoever we end up pulling months later because of no t5cc (screwed by rng again). So we have no choice. I used my initial t5cc already (domino), now i shoot in the dark and hope to pull a t5cc later?
    You're right the difficulty isn't changing the rewards are. In my example the difficulty changes but the rewards don't.

    It's fine for someone to get the same for less effort but a massive injustice for someone to get less for the same effort? Neither is "fair". People here don't actually care about "fair" though, only whichever situations effect them negatively.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 4,092 Guardian
    CoatHang3r said:

    LeNoirFaineant said:

    CoatHang3r said:

    LeNoirFaineant said:

    CoatHang3r said:

    milomike said:

    CoatHang3r said:

    If it’s about being fair.

    Kabam players who have not completed the abyss can now base decisions off their Abyss Crystals when those who made decisions prior to this announcement are at a disadvantage. If the players who are bemoaning the loss of relative shards to others are awarded those shards I suggest that you prevent them from opening those crystals until they have used their gems, stones and t5cc acquired from the Abyss.

    You do realize the players who’ve already 100% will also be getting the added Nexus crystal? It will be delivered and claimed in mail, and they too can also base their decision on whichever t5cc they have waiting.

    Only difference at this point is the countless who aren’t 100%, now get less rewards.
    If they have spent their t5cc, no they cannot base their decision off of their t5cc.

    The countless people who have not completed the Abyss are at a significant advantage when it comes to making informed decisions. Those who have made decisions prior to this announcement are in a position much worse than being down a crystal, they are down being able to make an informed decision with their resources which is far more detrimental than 1.5 random champions.

    I doubt in reality it was detrimental to very many players. Some still have a lot of their resources. Many who did the Abyss early have sick rosters already and had excellent options on which to use those Abyss resources. They also got the benefit of the prestige race which is why many did it early in the first place. Nice Sunspot btw. It's really not a big deal either way. It's 15k shards. No one is getting screwed really. I just think it would be a better move by Kabam to leave the shards for everyone.
    Yeah would’ve been nice if I had the Abyss crystal before spending my resources on Sunspot, would’ve influenced my decisions relating to every last resource used on him. I would gladly trade it for a refund and 5k 6* shards.

    It’s cool that you aren’t very concerned, but I’m speaking to those who are.
    If you had it to do over would you save all the things you got from the Abyss, refrain from awakening anyone and taking to r3, and wait until now? Genuinely curious. Who would you try to get in lieu of Sunspot?
    Yes, I would have made different decisions if the Abyss Nexus was in play. The ability to make Informed decisions will always be more powerful than 15k random shards.

    In the interest of being fair (Again this is why I’m posting) Players are claiming a disadvantage arising from the extra 15k shards others will have from the abyss while discounting and ignoring that they also have a significant and more impactful advantage with being able to make decisions with the Abyss crystal in play. If people want fair Kabam can leave the shards and return the resources and champions to all players who used them prior to the crystals addition. But that isn’t going to happen so people need to drop their victimhood and accept that sometimes all parties will be disadvantaged, that “fairness” isn’t an absolute and sometimes being handicapped in differing ways is equality.
    Nothing informed when you dont know what t5cc you going to get. Guess and pray.
  • Stagedear85Stagedear85 Member Posts: 774 ★★★
    Even thou im grateful for the update to Abyss, i have an issue with it, my issue is people that completed Abyss already keep their 45k 6 star shards and also receive the updated nexus crystal now hear me out, if i completed abyss and get a tech or skill t5CC i can pick a skill or tech nexus 6 star crystal and hope for ghost or nick fury and rank that champ up now for people like myself and others when we complete Abyss we have to pick the nexus without knowing what t5cc we're going to be pulling eg i pick mystic to get a doom but pull a cosmic t5CC and a science t5cc hows that fair when someone who already pull their t5cc can gauge to what champ they want of that class to rank up not only that but they also keep their extra 15k 6 star shards. I think Kabam should allow us to get the T5CC first then we can decide what class of the nexus crystal we want to choose or just make the T5CC a selector crystal, also just leave the shards a 45k. Thanks for the update anyhow.
  • Sieger7999Sieger7999 Member Posts: 48 ★
    There is an easy fix for this, why can’t they just send the nexus crystal as an in an in game message after you 100% the abyss. That way people can open their other rewards and make a more informed decision
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