I don’t think you’ve seen what they’ve done. After this season shells are useless because the 1700 shell you left behind can’t get you to masters or even p1 any anymore. We are adding +188/war.
Think it would of been more efficient just to set ever alliance to 0 and start from there. Like the game had just started
Then it’s really silly cause if you lose, you’ll get stuck at 0. And if you lose 10 wars consecutively, you’ll still be stuck at 0, and a different type of thread will appear saying how unfair it is that low alliances are matching stronger alliances and losing despite having the same war rating (0).
The 1683 Ally running only 2 BG probably has a smaller pool of close WR Ally’s to fight (and hopefully if they don’t match same teams twice in a season) they would have to dig down to potentially your lower WR for some of their matches (if not enough in 2 BG pool up where they are).
So not necessarily that there aren’t enough down by your 1298, but instead probably because not enough up where they are at 1683.
I don’t think you’ve seen what they’ve done. After this season shells are useless because the 1700 shell you left behind can’t get you to masters or even p1 any anymore. We are adding +188/war.
Shells will be gone
Don’t underestimate top alliances that shell. Some of them spend money to buy alliances at suitable war ratings, or use their alts to push the ratings of those lower alliances up.
Everybody should realise that gw has already acknowledged that in the long run the new system Is fairer. He is just nit picking as that’s what he does, he’s focusing on the point that each fight was fairer in the old system even though he knows the overall system was less fair because it was exploitable. When compared the the current wars he has a point, each fight was fairer than these fights, Overall the system he’s not even trying to say was better, he’s not that stupid. he also keeps winding people up by saying that it was fair that 30m alliances like mine were stuck in t11 since they couldn’t win more than 60% of their fights, which everybody that’s read this forum has realised that an alliance facing teams 6 tiers and 6 reward divisions lower than it was breaking the exploitable system, thing is he isn’t bringing anything to the table except toxicity at this Point and I suggest everybody just leaves him to complain about whatever he wants, kabam isn’t listening to him, I would love to see every body pick a slogan and just repeat the same thing over to him again, like “overall this system is fairer, thanks for your concern”
those teams who had bloated rewards and whose skill, tier and experienced weren’t being recognised by providing them with actual healthy competition. Much better for their growth in skill which will actually get them further in the game than gifted six star shards who are actually probably going more to the vets second alliances than the growing new alliances that actually need them
Kabam what is going on with War matchmaking. Currently my ally is taking a break from war due to this very unfair matchmaking. I’ve lost 6 members because of it. What are you guys doing to fix the issue pertaining to Alliance War Matchmaking?
War ratings are skewed due to the previous system. It'll start to get better each week until alliances are where they ought to be. There is no way to fix it other than to play war.
War rating is the same and there is a 7m difference in rating and 500 in prestige...
We have a similar matchup our prestige is 400 lower than theirs and rating 7m less. None of us were complaining and currently we are 25 kills ahead with both sides clearing 90 defenders
If you want the rewards for the higher tiers then fight for them! AW is simple, you guys play well and you’ll win. Wars are always going to be easy and hard. It’s the hard ones that define your season not the easy ones.
We don’t have problemes with shell alliances, we simply can’t believe that we just need to get matched with alliances that are way much szeonger than we are. Yes, on tier 7 maps we still have some chances, but as long as our average rating is at 600k we cannot keep up with our opponents at an average of 1.1m. That is simply not fair. Thay need to finetune this, or else alliances keep on leavong war, which will leed to another inbalanced matchmaking. Noone likes to spend resources on wars that you cannot win...
Honestly it completely screws up matchups. Our ally (31.4 mill) is up against beginners (their ally is barely over 5 mill with most players having r2 5 stars as their top champs). So what if it's any easy win for us, it isn't even fun for anyone. Doesn't help our team get better and probably discourages these new players from staying. There is no way this should happen.
*Copied my comment from another thread* Honestly it completely screws up matchups. Our ally (31.4 mill) is up against beginners (their ally is barely over 5 mill with most players having r2 5 stars as their top champs). So what if it's any easy win for us, it isn't even fun for anyone. Doesn't help our team get better and probably discourages these new players from staying. There is no way this should happen.
Everybody should realise that gw has already acknowledged that in the long run the new system Is fairer. He is just nit picking as that’s what he does, he’s focusing on the point that each fight was fairer in the old system even though he knows the overall system was less fair because it was exploitable. When compared the the current wars he has a point, each fight was fairer than these fights, Overall the system he’s not even trying to say was better, he’s not that stupid. he also keeps winding people up by saying that it was fair that 30m alliances like mine were stuck in t11 since they couldn’t win more than 60% of their fights, which everybody that’s read this forum has realised that an alliance facing teams 6 tiers and 6 reward divisions lower than it was breaking the exploitable system, thing is he isn’t bringing anything to the table except toxicity at this Point and I suggest everybody just leaves him to complain about whatever he wants, kabam isn’t listening to him, I would love to see every body pick a slogan and just repeat the same thing over to him again, like “overall this system is fairer, thanks for your concern”
those teams who had bloated rewards and whose skill, tier and experienced weren’t being recognised by providing them with actual healthy competition. Much better for their growth in skill which will actually get them further in the game than gifted six star shards who are actually probably going more to the vets second alliances than the growing new alliances that actually need them
*Copied my comment from another thread* Honestly it completely screws up matchups. Our ally (31.4 mill) is up against beginners (their ally is barely over 5 mill with most players having r2 5 stars as their top champs). So what if it's any easy win for us, it isn't even fun for anyone. Doesn't help our team get better and probably discourages these new players from staying. There is no way this should happen.
There’s also no way the other alliance should have had a war rating of 1700.
*Copied my comment from another thread* Honestly it completely screws up matchups. Our ally (31.4 mill) is up against beginners (their ally is barely over 5 mill with most players having r2 5 stars as their top champs). So what if it's any easy win for us, it isn't even fun for anyone. Doesn't help our team get better and probably discourages these new players from staying. There is no way this should happen.
Matches are screwed up in the short term due to alliance rating getting screwed up. I agree that the short term is unfortunate but it'll be better going forward.
Posted this in another thread to help someone understand. Think it’ll help some here too.
“Let’s use an analogy of the AW Season Rewards being the vast ocean. In the ocean there is a food chain.
By matching with prestige, this causes this vast ocean to be segregated into small ponds of water, and the fish in these small ponds compete amongst each other for the top spot.
So what happens is that you get a small pond of sharks, and a small pond of clownfish (pun intended). The top clownfish, because they’re competing amongst other clownfish, think they deserve to be at the top of the food chain of the ocean, at the same level as the top sharks, because they’re the strongest in their pond.”
To add to above, the current system now takes all these fish from the small ponds and dump them back into the ocean where they belong. It’ll leave the top clownfish wondering why they’re being eaten by barracudas but eventually, the clownfish will learn where they are at in the food chain.
You are not the ones... our alliance has fought itself high up to tier five g1, we almost reached p4 at the end of the last season with an overall alliance rating of 19m and war rating of 2300 and something... and now, we all developed defenders for flow and syphon globals, and adter two wars against alliances with a rating of 33-34m of course with two losses we are in tier 7, and the moral is so low we almost let the war season byfly. It is not worth it. This ruins the hard work of several seasons. Not a smart move guys, sorry to say that
Ah yes. Let's come up with another analogy to justify screwing people over.
No one is getting screwed over. The alliances who are getting bad matches due to inflated war ratings are far better off with the rewards they have already banked. That doesn't mean the handful of rough matches they are facing don't suck. Sure they do. Run no items wars and see where you land. But they aren't getting screwed.
Hi Kabam I’m the leader of Wasteland(Wstea). We have read the information you guys shared mentioning that you're trying to improve the Alliance war experience with new changes.However war matchmaking based on just War Rating has been a pain the ass for alliance these days and seems just illogical. As sawgat mentioned we have been facing alliances who’s ratings and prestige are twice as much as ours. it's an issue that needs you guys take your time and resolve immediately. Even the alliance who are benefiting from this facing opponents they should have faced few years back are saying this is totally unfair to everyone
Ah yes. Let's come up with another analogy to justify screwing people over.
No one is getting screwed over. The alliances who are getting bad matches due to inflated war ratings are far better off with the rewards they have already banked. That doesn't mean the handful of rough matches they are facing don't suck. Sure they do. Run no items wars and see where you land. But they aren't getting screwed.
They're getting screwed. Being placed in Matches they have no chance of winning screws their Final Rankings in the Season. I called this the second they announced it. The only people benefitting from this are the ones high enough not to be affected, and the ones on the lower end of the mismatches are losing potential Wins through absolutely no control of their own. If they have no chance of winning, then the Season is not a fair competition. No one is truly earning anything in this. Not the larger ones or the lower ones. You can all say it's just the system fixing itself, but it's just a joke.
there is a big thread about this. please read it and reply there instead of making a new one.
the problems with current matrchmaking are temporary and will be resolved in time. they have arisen due to season upon season of a bad unfair matchmaking system that has lead to little allies rising much higher then their skill should have allowed whilst causing big allies to get stuck low. this will be rectified in time however will require an adjustment period which will involve bad match ups.
all i hear here is "i have had many many many many seasons of unfair advantage gifting me rewards well beyond what i deserve. i know that others have been getting well below what they deserve but i don't care. i want i want i want.... you can't take away from me. you cant put me lower where i belong, getting lesser rewards. ... cry cry cry i am entitled and want everything without effort and don't care that those who put effort are getting nothing..."
Hi Kabam I’m the leader of Wasteland(Wstea). We have read the information you guys shared mentioning that you're trying to improve the Alliance war experience with new changes.However war matchmaking based on just War Rating has been a pain the ass for alliance these days and seems just illogical. As sawgat mentioned we have been facing alliances who’s ratings and prestige are twice as much as ours. it's an issue that needs you guys take your time and resolve immediately. Even the alliance who are benefiting from this facing opponents they should have faced few years back are saying this is totally unfair to everyone
Ten seasons of broken matchmaking, who would have thought so many people would be so out of whack With their tiers and war ratings, almost as if we ignored those factors for 9 seasons, oh wait they did. Seems the experienced people in the game and the programmers realise how broken it was and realise it needed a fix While some are still advocating for a system that pitted gold 2 tier 6 alliances against bronze tier 10. For 9 seasons A little bit broken for 9 seasons adds up, this is the result of that brokenness being allowed to go on for so long
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Shells will be gone
It’s already happened/happening now. Lol.
So not necessarily that there aren’t enough down by your 1298, but instead probably because not enough up where they are at 1683.
those teams who had bloated rewards and whose skill, tier and experienced weren’t being recognised by providing them with actual healthy competition. Much better for their growth in skill which will actually get them further in the game than gifted six star shards who are actually probably going more to the vets second alliances than the growing new alliances that actually need them
War rating is the same and there is a 7m difference in rating and 500 in prestige...
We have a similar matchup our prestige is 400 lower than theirs and rating 7m less. None of us were complaining and currently we are 25 kills ahead with both sides clearing 90 defenders
If you want the rewards for the higher tiers then fight for them! AW is simple, you guys play well and you’ll win. Wars are always going to be easy and hard. It’s the hard ones that define your season not the easy ones.
Honestly it completely screws up matchups. Our ally (31.4 mill) is up against beginners (their ally is barely over 5 mill with most players having r2 5 stars as their top champs). So what if it's any easy win for us, it isn't even fun for anyone. Doesn't help our team get better and probably discourages these new players from staying. There is no way this should happen.
“Let’s use an analogy of the AW Season Rewards being the vast ocean. In the ocean there is a food chain.
By matching with prestige, this causes this vast ocean to be segregated into small ponds of water, and the fish in these small ponds compete amongst each other for the top spot.
So what happens is that you get a small pond of sharks, and a small pond of clownfish (pun intended). The top clownfish, because they’re competing amongst other clownfish, think they deserve to be at the top of the food chain of the ocean, at the same level as the top sharks, because they’re the strongest in their pond.”
To add to above, the current system now takes all these fish from the small ponds and dump them back into the ocean where they belong. It’ll leave the top clownfish wondering why they’re being eaten by barracudas but eventually, the clownfish will learn where they are at in the food chain.
Hahahaha.
I’m the leader of Wasteland(Wstea). We have read the information you guys shared mentioning that you're trying to improve the Alliance war experience with new changes.However war matchmaking based on just War Rating has been a pain the ass for alliance these days and seems just illogical. As sawgat mentioned we have been facing alliances who’s ratings and prestige are twice as much as ours. it's an issue that needs you guys take your time and resolve immediately. Even the alliance who are benefiting from this facing opponents they should have faced few years back are saying this is totally unfair to everyone
there is a big thread about this.
please read it and reply there instead of making a new one.
the problems with current matrchmaking are temporary and will be resolved in time.
they have arisen due to season upon season of a bad unfair matchmaking system that has lead to little allies rising much higher then their skill should have allowed whilst causing big allies to get stuck low.
this will be rectified in time however will require an adjustment period which will involve bad match ups.
all i hear here is
"i have had many many many many seasons of unfair advantage gifting me rewards well beyond what i deserve. i know that others have been getting well below what they deserve but i don't care. i want i want i want.... you can't take away from me. you cant put me lower where i belong, getting lesser rewards. ... cry cry cry i am entitled and want everything without effort and don't care that those who put effort are getting nothing..."
Seems the experienced people in the game and the programmers realise how broken it was and realise it needed a fix
While some are still advocating for a system that pitted gold 2 tier 6 alliances against bronze tier 10. For 9 seasons
A little bit broken for 9 seasons adds up, this is the result of that brokenness being allowed to go on for so long