Throne Breaker Title Discussion [Merged Threads]

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  • DjinDjin Member Posts: 1,962 ★★★★★
    This is an unnecessary progression title. They could've just made it for Act 7 completion with no champ requirement and better benefits.
  • Frivolousz21Frivolousz21 Member Posts: 438 ★★★
    Mcord117 said:

    My r3 options would be atm unduped domino, omega, capiw, nick fury, hulkbuster.

    None of my good 6* are duped and hulkbuster and nick are both at r1. Effectively I need to finish exploring act 6 and hope for mutant or science so that I can take up a champ I would have waited for otherwise to obtain the title. It is problematic

    Un awakened Domino is fine.

    All of those options aren't that bad.

    Except Nick Fury needs the dupe
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    A l p h a said:

    Considering that a r3 6 star requires either.....
    100% act 6
    Complete the abyss of legends
    Have gotten extremely lucky with rng from various rewards and deals

    Having this r3 requirement is a real kick in the teeth for players, looking for a new progression point... surely the new thronebreaker title should focus its rewards on being able to get the shards or resources required to get a r3 6 star... not make it a requirement to have one! I personally have a r3 elsa, and am about to explore abyss, but i have a mutant t5cc thats been sat in my account for 7 months, because i simply haven't pulled a mutant champ that i would like to use that resource on! I Imagine a huge number of this playerbase is in a similar situation, but for their first r3!

    As far as im aware.... no progression point has ever had a champ requirement before... so why does thronebreaker??

    Sorry for the rant, but please, listen to your community, beating the grandmaster should feel like a huge acheivement... no one wants to go through all that work to be deflated because they dont have a worthy r3 6 star!

    Story content has also never been a participation trophy level difficulty either. That's what people asked for and got though. Turns out one of the side effects was title requirement changes. Can't always get everything your way it turns out
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  • Player1994Player1994 Member Posts: 793 ★★★

    To be really clear here (and let the dislikes pour in), this is meant to be a differentiating factor between players in the Cavalier progression level, and those that are far advanced from there.

    As you guys are well aware, there is a huge breadth of players that have hit Cavalier status, from those that have beaten Act 6 Chapter 1 just once, to those that have explored Abyss of Legends, and take on the Grandmaster and Champion bosses daily just for fun.

    It becomes extremely difficult for us to make content that targets everybody in that group when one end is so far ahead of the other. As we moved away from making Act content our measuring stick for Summoner Roster and Skill Progression, we had to move to other measurements. Having 1x Rank 3 6-Star is quite low on the scale of differentiation since many of these Summoners have quite a lot more.

    If you haven't hit that point yet, that's okay. There's still a lot for you to benefit from as a Cavalier, and those benefits will help you as you progress and grow towards the next level.

    maybe give the title to all of those who completed the Abyss maybe even put it as an Abyss completion reward ( with act6 completion of course )
  • A l p h aA l p h a Member Posts: 544 ★★★

    They definitely messed up where they put the title. All they did was make a lot of people that it's not even remotely aimed at, think that it is. They did it to make it less restrictive and more player friendly but the result is just a bunch of crying. I'd rather they slap 100% Act 6 and Abyss requirements on it just so everyone would shut up about it personally
    I agree on this... Thronebreaker was earned for 100% act 6... THAT should be the progression point, not the completion, since then the rewards would match the requirement!
  • RU11011RU11011 Member Posts: 880 ★★★★
    Siliyo said:

    The incursion system, when first introduced, required you to have a certain number of 5* champions in your roster that allowed you to gain access to certain tiers. Why couldn’t you do the same with Throne Breaker, where we need certain number of 6* champions? 6* champions are still hard to come by — a 6* champion you want to r3 is even harder unless you’re lucky.

    I was going to suggest this, but this thread was too entertaining, so I decided against it. I would say 20-30 6*'s, since at the point of 6.4, 6*s are easy enough to come by. Not to mention, the title is permanent, so I would say a requirement of 30 6*s seems okay. Although I don't really mind the R3 6* thing too much.
  • WerewrymWerewrym Member Posts: 2,830 ★★★★★
    Kaloco14 said:

    Lol funny it’s always the whales commenting and commending kabam on bad decisions bc it doesn’t affect them at all then just say “git better kid” to anyone who doesn’t spend and finds it unfair for an actual valid reason but oh well we know by this point in time with kabam and their greedy bunch of whales it’s the “rich get richer and the poor get poorer”
    I hate to break it to you, but it’s not just the whales... I rarely spend anything on this game, and when I do it’s only because I have spare iTunes credit. This is not a bad decision. It is in fact a very good decision made by kabam to split up those with the cavalier title. It is literally a cake walk to obtain cavalier and because of that the skill difference of players with the cavalier title is nearly infinite. They need a way to differentiate end game cavaliers from fresh new cavaliers. This title does exactly that. So I say mission accomplished.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    A l p h a said:

    I agree on this... Thronebreaker was earned for 100% act 6... THAT should be the progression point, not the completion, since then the rewards would match the requirement!
    Nah I'm past just 100% Act 6 bc Act 6 is a joke now. Make it full exploration of act 6 AND Abyss. Then Johnny try hard who just barely scrapes by getting through story to get that shiny title knows it isn't aimed at him in the slightest.
  • A l p h aA l p h a Member Posts: 544 ★★★

    Nah I'm past just 100% Act 6 bc Act 6 is a joke now. Make it full exploration of act 6 AND Abyss. Then Johnny try hard who just barely scrapes by getting through story to get that shiny title knows it isn't aimed at him in the slightest.
    For people like us its easy to say that, those who have already done it, but for others who have only just done completion seems abit farfetchd?? it took me nearly 4 months to explore abyss as i had to grind my resources to do so in arena since im F2P! So i see both sides to this! Can't punish those that haven't spent or been able to do it as quickly?
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    Where does it say offers?
    in the announcements on the forums:

    The Following will be released over time, and will not be available on the day that Thronebreaker launches:
    New Gold Crystal
    New Arena Crystal
    Additional items in the Black ISO Market
    New Monthly Calendar
    New Daily Objectives
    Exclusive offers, gifts, and rewards
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  • CainCain Member Posts: 559 ★★
    I think what most everyone is missing as they gripe about RNG is that they understand this is a factor...the progression is meant to be based on roster growth not story progression alone. So yes it takes a long time to get a R3 6* but they know this...that’s why they chose to go this route. It’s not going to be hard to do with the increasing abundance of 6* shards and T5CC. You can get it monthly now. So take a breath and move on, ffs they are giving it to us without some new cash grab fight. If you don’t have an R3 6* your roster isn’t established enough for the meta of the game to be giving you access to the next tier of rewards. It’s so simple.
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  • Rocket_Lord16Rocket_Lord16 Member Posts: 3
    I see a lot of people arguing that they need a way to differentiate fresh cavs from people who have completed act 6...but a fresh cav hasn’t been the grandmaster have they? People don’t usually from from chapter 1 to 4 in a couple weeks, it usually takes months, took me about a year to get decent champs to do it. The progression milestone should be based on you know, story progression, not RNG 6* and catalyst progression.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    I see a lot of people arguing that they need a way to differentiate fresh cavs from people who have completed act 6...but a fresh cav hasn’t been the grandmaster have they? People don’t usually from from chapter 1 to 4 in a couple weeks, it usually takes months, took me about a year to get decent champs to do it. The progression milestone should be based on you know, story progression, not RNG 6* and catalyst progression.

    So your argument is they should put it back to the end of book 2? They stated they cannot do it based on story anymore because they are not making story difficult anymore.
  • MaybeThisIsNotMeMaybeThisIsNotMe Member Posts: 147 ★★
    If you have the rank up materials to R3 a 6* that should be sufficient to get the title. Don't push people to actually rank up champs that aren't worthy.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,336 ★★★★★
    Berjibs said:


    If you think I’m in the group moaning about difficulty all the time btw, and that was a dig (I know you like to get those in all the time on those below your level), you’d be wrong.

    No worries man. I like to joke and have fun quite abit so sometimes people take it the wrong way. (That whining comment wasn’t directed at you though, but at the community at large 😂)
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,336 ★★★★★
    edited September 2020
    Just make the title for 100% A6 and AoL 100% like what @Worknprogress suggested. It’ll stop all the whining.

    And when players finally reach that level, they’ll know why it’s set there.

    (I’ve always been a proponent of Story Quest Milestone Titles being put in Exploration. It sets the expectation and min requirement for the title, rather than just unit-manning it once and leaving it alone.)
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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Jaggers68 said:

    I agree that it shld be a6 100% (even though I’ve only explored chapters 1-2), but I feel like the progression is story-based so Abyss shouldn’t be a part. TBH, I think they shld require Act 6 exploration and like Act 7 Chapter 1 exploration.
    they already stated that they cannot use act based progression because they are no longer making acts more and more difficult.
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