Can we not get rid of the level 55 requirement for cavalier difficulty

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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    You mean you couldn’t make it thru so you don’t want anyone else to have the rewards from making it before you is what it sounds like Tell me how my level in the game has anything to do with the difficulty of content I can clear? It doesn’t at all. It’s just random xp points you get for clearing content. No skill no needed champs nothing. So why should it prevent me from doing content that I can clear?
    And I don’t complain about content being to hard. If I can’t do it I don’t.
    Well I mean you can theoretically clear content at level one with low level champions.

    Your level equates to talent points which equates to power, which equates to probability of being able to complete the content. If you do or dont complain we dont know.
  • Jridenhour_3Jridenhour_3 Member Posts: 349 ★★

    The bottom line is, Legendary and Cavalier respectively, are the highest level of content. Both in EQ and SQ. It's not unreasonable to me that both should require Level 60, which is the easiest thing to do. It just takes time and effort. Let alone 55. The bar was already moved.

    Are you cavalier?
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  • Jridenhour_3Jridenhour_3 Member Posts: 349 ★★
    Lormif said:

    Well I mean you can theoretically clear content at level one with low level champions.

    Your level equates to talent points which equates to power, which equates to probability of being able to complete the content. If you do or dont complain we dont know.
    Your level has nothing to do with talent. It’s just how many fights and quests you’ve completed.
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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    Your level has nothing to do with talent. It’s just how many fights and quests you’ve completed.
    you get a talent point (mastery point) every level..... Sure it has little to do with skill, but those points are important, and you asked how they were related.
  • Lobster44Lobster44 Member Posts: 147
    Lormif said:

    How does that make sense? How does allowing people to go into content too difficult than they can handle and spend resources, then complain on the forums that the content was too hard and needs to be nerfed make sense?
    From Kabam's point of view, this would be good as people are spending. From the player's point of view, this is good as they get to access more content. Also, who's saying legendary is too hard for pre cav/lv55 players anyway? I managed quite a bit of legendary and I only recently got UC, with the only thing I spent any resources on being the wolvie x boss (and even then it was only about 5 revives over 3 fights, the rest of the bosses were not an issue). My point is people who can manage the difficulty as they're at the progression point it's designed for are being locked out because of a pointless number that only affects how many mastery points you have (which, for a f2p at that kind of stage isn't that important since you probably don't have the units to have all the points in the good masteries anyway). The gates should be tied to the title they were designed for, not arbitrary levels that don't really indicate anything. Also, I wouldn't complain if I was locked out of legendary bc it was deemed for cavs, bc that makes sense, but locking cavs out bc they haven't grinded enough other content is just stupid.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    This is the problem with things like side quests and the glory store giving new players so much access to higher rarity and rank champs these days. They completely skip over most of the early game and don't even bother doing things like finishing off their mastery setups. The amount of newer players I've spoken with that have absolutely atrocious masteries is shocking.

    Players should stopping trying to skip ahead as fast as possible and start thinking about whether they should do something just because they can.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Lobster44 said:

    From Kabam's point of view, this would be good as people are spending. From the player's point of view, this is good as they get to access more content. Also, who's saying legendary is too hard for pre cav/lv55 players anyway? I managed quite a bit of legendary and I only recently got UC, with the only thing I spent any resources on being the wolvie x boss (and even then it was only about 5 revives over 3 fights, the rest of the bosses were not an issue). My point is people who can manage the difficulty as they're at the progression point it's designed for are being locked out because of a pointless number that only affects how many mastery points you have (which, for a f2p at that kind of stage isn't that important since you probably don't have the units to have all the points in the good masteries anyway). The gates should be tied to the title they were designed for, not arbitrary levels that don't really indicate anything. Also, I wouldn't complain if I was locked out of legendary bc it was deemed for cavs, bc that makes sense, but locking cavs out bc they haven't grinded enough other content is just stupid.
    No, it really would not. There is a cost to support these players and it is greater than the money they receive. If YOU or the OP can or not does not represent the average player. this is his mini. The people who are locked out because of progression limits is a very small portion of the playerbase.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,927 ★★★★★

    Are you cavalier?
    Yes.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,927 ★★★★★
    I was also Level 60 a long time ago.
  • Jridenhour_3Jridenhour_3 Member Posts: 349 ★★
    edited October 2020

    then you'd better start soon.

    you're a big shot in your mind, elders bane should get you to 55 in no time. if you plan on r2ing any of those 6 stars, best be rolling up them sleeves and stop cutting in line.

    no Big Kahuna or even totally Rad either?
    Where did I say I’m a big shot or anything. I simply stated I should have access to the side event because I completed the difficulty needed to access it. Pretty simple. And I need 1.5 t5 an I could rank 2 one of my 6*. So really wouldn’t b hard.
    And how an I cutting in line? Because I was able to get cavelier at lvl46. If you have the champs an the skill to complete it why wouldn’t you.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,394 Guardian

    You mean you couldn’t make it thru so you don’t want anyone else to have the rewards from making it before you is what it sounds like Tell me how my level in the game has anything to do with the difficulty of content I can clear? It doesn’t at all. It’s just random xp points you get for clearing content. No skill no needed champs nothing. So why should it prevent me from doing content that I can clear?
    And I don’t complain about content being to hard. If I can’t do it I don’t.
    Your summoner level doesn't tell me anything about your skill level. But your need to have the game be customized to your wants and preferences tells me everything about your temperament as a player.

    I explained it once, I'll do it again. There's different avenues of progress in the game. Summoner level is one of them. Maybe you think it is a worthless progress meter, but it is there. You acknowledge it, you deal with it, or you go find another game that is a better test of "skill." Personally, I think game play discipline is a skill. And if we judge that skill like we do every other skill: the fewer people who can do it the harder it is, then game play discipline is one of the hardest skills a player can develop. It appears to be one you currently lack.
  • Jridenhour_3Jridenhour_3 Member Posts: 349 ★★
    edited October 2020
    DNA3000 said:

    Your summoner level doesn't tell me anything about your skill level. But your need to have the game be customized to your wants and preferences tells me everything about your temperament as a player.

    I explained it once, I'll do it again. There's different avenues of progress in the game. Summoner level is one of them. Maybe you think it is a worthless progress meter, but it is there. You acknowledge it, you deal with it, or you go find another game that is a better test of "skill." Personally, I think game play discipline is a skill. And if we judge that skill like we do every other skill: the fewer people who can do it the harder it is, then game play discipline is one of the hardest skills a player can develop. It appears to be one you currently lack.
    No I just want consistency. How can you let me into cavelier main quest but not the side quest. Especially when it was stated earlier there has been ones tht had the lvl55 gate an some that haven’t. My progress is being limited because rewards that I could earn are being restricted because I didn’t do easier content because I haven’t had time to grind and haven’t wanted to for worthless material for my needs. I would have another 6* this month if it wasn’t for the gate.
    And I’m sure if you weren’t already level 60 when u hit cavelier you’d have the same issue I do. But bc you were level 60 it didn’t even affect you.
  • AztecAztec Member Posts: 293 ★★
    go play barbie dude
  • Tiger360Tiger360 Member Posts: 1,696 ★★★★
    Working on act 4 exploration now for Levels and Mastery points (super useful) you seem be a bit like me where your not really a serious grinder and so are a pretty low level and still have cavalier. But like everyone said definitely work on act 4 those mastery points will come in clutch
  • Jridenhour_3Jridenhour_3 Member Posts: 349 ★★
    Aztec said:

    go play barbie dude

    Wow aren’t you a tough guy
    Tiger360 said:

    Working on act 4 exploration now for Levels and Mastery points (super useful) you seem be a bit like me where your not really a serious grinder and so are a pretty low level and still have cavalier. But like everyone said definitely work on act 4 those mastery points will come in clutch

    And yeah this is a mini so I dnt grind on this account. I’ve barely been playing game lately but saw rewards an was like I can get an easy 6* just to be gated out for no reason.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,927 ★★★★★

    Wow aren’t you a tough guy And yeah this is a mini so I dnt grind on this account. I’ve barely been playing game lately but saw rewards an was like I can get an easy 6* just to be gated out for no reason.
    Play it on your Main.
  • Jridenhour_3Jridenhour_3 Member Posts: 349 ★★

    Play it on your Main.
    I plan on it but I expected new 6* for both accounts.
  • Jridenhour_3Jridenhour_3 Member Posts: 349 ★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Your summoner level doesn't tell me anything about your skill level. But your need to have the game be customized to your wants and preferences tells me everything about your temperament as a player.

    I explained it once, I'll do it again. There's different avenues of progress in the game. Summoner level is one of them. Maybe you think it is a worthless progress meter, but it is there. You acknowledge it, you deal with it, or you go find another game that is a better test of "skill." Personally, I think game play discipline is a skill. And if we judge that skill like we do every other skill: the fewer people who can do it the harder it is, then game play discipline is one of the hardest skills a player can develop. It appears to be one you currently lack.
    Also I can play the limbo event and earn the keys for the legendary event which I did. But can’t go into second part of event to use key.
  • SpiderVenomSpiderVenom Member Posts: 34

    Uh no. You'd struggle for sure. The level cap is there for a reason. Explore act 4. Tons of XP there.
    i'm sure you are being sarcastic
  • SpiderVenomSpiderVenom Member Posts: 34
    dude like i have act 5 completion i did legendary mutant treasure island like it was a breeze i have been doing uncollected for a few months now and just because i'm level 53 i cannot play legendary mephisto's hades invasions
    what does that even mean?????
    i lost all interest for this month's side quest
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★

    I was using 4* at r3 an r4 to become UC.
    That doesn’t really put you in a super elite club.
    Many people did it with those sorts of rosters back when it released.
    Just those people aren’t also complaining that being asked to be level 55 is too much hard work.
  • SpiderVenomSpiderVenom Member Posts: 34
    my roster look at it and tell me can i not do legendary difficulty side quest
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★
    It’s a pretty undeveloped roster tbh...
  • Jridenhour_3Jridenhour_3 Member Posts: 349 ★★

    That doesn’t really put you in a super elite club.
    Many people did it with those sorts of rosters back when it released.
    Just those people aren’t also complaining that being asked to be level 55 is too much hard work.
    I didn’t say it did. And those ppl back in the day all have lvl 60 accounts an this never affected them either.
  • Charlie21540Charlie21540 Member Posts: 948 ★★★★
    Dude it really doesn't take that much effort to get to level 55. I have a mini account I started like 5 months ago and it is already level 54. And I haven't even done my initial completion for act 5. Just through chapter to get uncollected. All you literally have to do is throw an XP boost on whenever you plan to do quests. Not that hard.
  • Jridenhour_3Jridenhour_3 Member Posts: 349 ★★

    Dude it really doesn't take that much effort to get to level 55. I have a mini account I started like 5 months ago and it is already level 54. And I haven't even done my initial completion for act 5. Just through chapter to get uncollected. All you literally have to do is throw an XP boost on whenever you plan to do quests. Not that hard.

    Sounds like you spend too much time on this game if your lvl 54 in 6 months. I dnt grind on either account so yes it would be a pain for me.
  • Charlie21540Charlie21540 Member Posts: 948 ★★★★

    Sounds like you spend too much time on this game if your lvl 54 in 6 months. I dnt grind on either account so yes it would be a pain for me.
    Well I hate to break it to ya buddy. But just like any other game that has ever existed. You get out what you put into it.
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