I just don't understand why it wasn't a calendar. It could still have additional weeks and early award weeks for those that bought the passes. This really would have cleared up the confusion.
It 100% would have been better in a calendar and just add a summer pass for those who want to pay for it.
Not that I agree or disagree, but it seems like they wanted to use engagement as a way to distribute the rewards this year.
At the end of the day, you don't have to engage in the game in anyway, shape or form, just log in. Even if you added a paid calendar, it does the same thing.
Calendars are true freebies which is why some people want them (no effort), but the way they added it, it's honestly just low effort. 10 fights (any mode in game) to get the glasses. Glasses gives you points on the milestones in Summoner Camp which gives you tokens for the store. Convoluted, yes - but meant to encourage time spent in game, I think.
Spend time in game for ten fights. Spend time in game to collect milestones. Spend time in game to cash in tokens in the store. Time, time, time.
If anything, it's meant to discourage just logging in for free stuff.
I dislike these events where you get this thing, to unlock this other thing, which will in turn unlock another thing. However, kabam won’t tell you exactly how to get the best final thing, you have to rely on the community to come up with a handy chart so you don’t miss out on the higher rewards because you mistakenly used one of the things on the wrong thing.
You can start collecting milestone rewards after you reach the next milestone after the one you are trying to collect.
Can you confirm - does this mean that with the regular resort pass, once you reach the final milestone, you will not be able to claim the final rewards?
Meaning you NEED pass plus to get the 500 units and final blue token (without which you can’t get the 5* generic awakening gem, 6,400 6* shards, and 5 6* Sig stone crystals), or the final objectives for extra shards?
@Kabam Miike i see you lurking and can’t find how to tag kabam boo - can you help with this question? It’s kind of a big deal haha
This weeks summoner of pain fight. Specifically the robot version is so champ specific. If rng has not worked in your favor to where you have warlock, g99 or sentinel you are basically screwed.
It's bad that until u haven't done ur mission there isn't the second one. I didn't have enough time today and didn't complete the first mission, so now I won't complete the whole mission(((. Make something
My biggest issue with this isn’t the pay for more aspect. That’s kinda expected. My biggest issue is that you have to spend x tokens to get the next thing available. With the limit of 14 tokens for f2p accounts, this wastes *a lot* of tokens. As a cav player, I don’t have a lot of need for 4* shards or a 4* awakening gem, but I’m forced to buy it and miss out on the later things that would actually help my account. What a summer bummer
After I bought the 19.99 pass I havent been able to open the resort pass solo event it just says I need to purchase the pass
Your image shows you claimed the milestones. If you click on that lock icon it says the following
"This item is for information only and remains visible here after purchassing a Resort Pass. Purchasing one of the Summ(on)er Resort Pass bundles from the Unit Store will allow claiming of Summ(on)er Resort Solo Event rewards"
You can start collecting milestone rewards after you reach the next milestone after the one you are trying to collect.
Can you confirm - does this mean that with the regular resort pass, once you reach the final milestone, you will not be able to claim the final rewards?
Meaning you NEED pass plus to get the 500 units and final blue token (without which you can’t get the 5* generic awakening gem, 6,400 6* shards, and 5 6* Sig stone crystals), or the final objectives for extra shards?
@Kabam Miike i see you lurking and can’t find how to tag kabam boo - can you help with this question? It’s kind of a big deal haha
The plus pass is a "boost". It just gives you 7 days worth of milestones. If you log in every day, get your Fun in the Sun objective, you will claim all milestones.
I purchased the 20 dollar resort pass with the 7 milestone jump. I'm not getting the option for anything else. What's the deal with the challenges for the event though, who do I need to contact or ask. Is there supposed to be only one daily challenge for 10 fights in arena or quest. I'm lost on what's going on in this event. It's not clear on what's supposed to happen.
I purchased the 20 dollar resort pass with the 7 milestone jump. I'm not getting the option for anything else. What's the deal with the challenges for the event though, who do I need to contact or ask. Is there supposed to be only one daily challenge for 10 fights in arena or quest. I'm lost on what's going on in this event. It's not clear on what's supposed to happen.
When you buy the pass, if you completed the task for the day, you have to complete another one (the next day or past that) to get the rewards for the pass milestones
I purchased the 20 dollar resort pass with the 7 milestone jump. I'm not getting the option for anything else. What's the deal with the challenges for the event though, who do I need to contact or ask. Is there supposed to be only one daily challenge for 10 fights in arena or quest. I'm lost on what's going on in this event. It's not clear on what's supposed to happen.
There's one objective per day - win 10 fights. Once you've done that, that gives you 1 point in both of the solo milestones. Claim the milestone, daily.
Every 7 days, you will get a token which you can convert into more prizes in the store.
Buying the resort pass (whether plus or not) gives you access to the second set of milestones called Summ(on)er Resort. Buying the Plus pass like you did just gave you 7 milestones/days in advance. So, if you buy plus, the reward is you don't have to win 70 fights over the week.
If this makes no difference in your game play, then at the end of the first week you will be one week ahead, so you will end up on day 14 (if you started yesterday, you're currently on milestone/day 9).
It suggests you can’t claim milestone 2 on day 2, rather you have to reach X+1 to claim X, but that’s not how it working - and therefore there is very little difference between pass plus. If regular pass can’t claim the final milestone it’s a big price difference.
And in this shop we can’t purchase actually useful items like 6 shards until we have spent tokens on crappy stuff . Is this correct
I see a lot of people getting confused by this. I think the idea of a store that unlocks items is a mental metaphor that is intrinsically messing with people's heads. A better way to look at the "store" is as a metaphorical punch card. The solo event functions basically like a calendar: every day you complete one objective and you get one milestone point which gives you one reward. It *feels* like a calendar. The store is like a rewards punch card. Instead of getting one point per day, we're getting one token every few days. When we get that token, we "punch" the next reward in the card. Free players will basically get fourteen tokens and punch fourteen rewards. If they are high enough progress level, it will be one each of the first fourteen rewards.
The only added complexity is if a player is *not* high enough progress for some of those rewards. In that case, for them they won't get one of each. Instead, to advance to the next reward they will have to take two of something lower if they can't get the next one. *If* this happens, depending on which color token they can't grab they will have some choices as to what else to get.
So the simplest way to think about the event is that there is a set of milestones that act like a calendar. We get one reward per day, unless we buy boosters that let us skip ahead and grab a bunch in one day. And we have a punch card of rewards we fill over time. Most likely, one of each reward up to the maximum we can get. For free to play players that maximum will be fourteen, the first fourteen rewards up to the 5* AG crystal. Lower progress players may not be able to get one of each, and will have to instead get more than one of some while skipping others they don't qualify for.
As kabam Mike previously said. This Is a battle pass kinda thing, I for one think this is a bad sign of things to come..
Yes we get "free rewards" but if you want the extra good stuff you've gotta pay up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not free to play, I've spent a good chunk of money on this game (mainly on July 4th/cyber Monday) but if it's at the point now where it's every month you've gotta pay X amount to get the extra good stuff I'm not okay with that, I for one see this as a very slippery slope.
Do we have to buy it, no.
I'm just stating that this doesn't look good for the future of the game.
As kabam Mike previously said. This Is a battle pass kinda thing, I for one think this is a bad sign of things to come..
Yes we get "free rewards" but if you want the extra good stuff you've gotta pay up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not free to play, I've spent a good chunk of money on this game (mainly on July 4th/cyber Monday) but if it's at the point now where it's every month you've gotta pay X amount to get the extra good stuff I'm not okay with that, I for one see this as a very slippery slope.
Do we have to buy it, no.
I'm just stating that this doesn't look good for the future of the game.
Ah yes... Free to Play games that have a battle pass for people who want more, all do real bad...
Like Fortnite. Apex Legends. Destiny 2. And many... many other games. All of them super unsuccessful. Practically dead games at this point.
As kabam Mike previously said. This Is a battle pass kinda thing, I for one think this is a bad sign of things to come..
Yes we get "free rewards" but if you want the extra good stuff you've gotta pay up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not free to play, I've spent a good chunk of money on this game (mainly on July 4th/cyber Monday) but if it's at the point now where it's every month you've gotta pay X amount to get the extra good stuff I'm not okay with that, I for one see this as a very slippery slope.
Do we have to buy it, no.
I'm just stating that this doesn't look good for the future of the game.
So why is July 4th having some offers for units and some for money ok? But this isn’t?
July 4th offers are much, much more lucrative and impactful on spenders vs non spenders. So why is that no big deal but suddenly this is?
This game has, and always will offer a heavy advantage to spenders. If it doesn’t, people will cease to spend, and I’m sure you will enjoy the last months of the game without offers like this just before the game dies.
Just noticed the first row of prizes can be purchased multiple times,, so if you accidentally purchase another one... doesn't that mean you won't have enough tokens to buy everything? Better disable that before someone does. Will prevent future headaches.
As kabam Mike previously said. This Is a battle pass kinda thing, I for one think this is a bad sign of things to come..
Yes we get "free rewards" but if you want the extra good stuff you've gotta pay up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not free to play, I've spent a good chunk of money on this game (mainly on July 4th/cyber Monday) but if it's at the point now where it's every month you've gotta pay X amount to get the extra good stuff I'm not okay with that, I for one see this as a very slippery slope.
Do we have to buy it, no.
I'm just stating that this doesn't look good for the future of the game.
I would be concerned if there was a significant amount of content locked behind that pass, but it is just resources with some engagement. To me this is not very different from selling crystals and rank up materials in cash offers. In fact I would argue this is better than selling crystals and rank up materials in cash offers, because you still have to be playing the game continuously to get this stuff. Anyone can buy a big bunch of stuff while sitting back, but only players engaged with the game to at least some non-trivial degree can take full advantage of these offers.
In other words, the game has always sold stuff to spenders. But the battle pass only realistically targets its sales to people who are otherwise actually playing the game. I think that shift is not a bad shift.
As kabam Mike previously said. This Is a battle pass kinda thing, I for one think this is a bad sign of things to come..
Yes we get "free rewards" but if you want the extra good stuff you've gotta pay up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not free to play, I've spent a good chunk of money on this game (mainly on July 4th/cyber Monday) but if it's at the point now where it's every month you've gotta pay X amount to get the extra good stuff I'm not okay with that, I for one see this as a very slippery slope.
Do we have to buy it, no.
I'm just stating that this doesn't look good for the future of the game.
"I would be concerned if there was a significant amount of content locked behind that pass"
This is the slippery slope I'm talking about. I might not happen. It might.
As kabam Mike previously said. This Is a battle pass kinda thing, I for one think this is a bad sign of things to come..
Yes we get "free rewards" but if you want the extra good stuff you've gotta pay up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not free to play, I've spent a good chunk of money on this game (mainly on July 4th/cyber Monday) but if it's at the point now where it's every month you've gotta pay X amount to get the extra good stuff I'm not okay with that, I for one see this as a very slippery slope.
Do we have to buy it, no.
I'm just stating that this doesn't look good for the future of the game.
Ah yes... Free to Play games that have a battle pass for people who want more, all do real bad...
Like Fortnite. Apex Legends. Destiny 2. And many... many other games. All of them super unsuccessful. Practically dead games at this point.
The games you've mentioned are majority played on console/pc
Just noticed the first row of prizes can be purchased multiple times,, so if you accidentally purchase another one... doesn't that mean you won't have enough tokens to buy everything? Better disable that before someone does. Will prevent future headaches.
This is deliberate. Some rewards in the Canteen store are progress-locked, so the only way to continue to higher rewards is to buy something else instead of the next reward. For example, let's say you're Proven (Act 3) but not yet Conqueror (Act 4). After you buy one of the first four items the next item is progress locked to Conqueror (the T4 selector). You can't buy it. If the first four items were locked to only buying one each, you'd be stuck, unable to get anything else. But because you can buy more than one, a Proven play could buy another T4B fragment offer, another 4* sig offer, and then unlock the 3 T4B offer which they can buy.
A Cavalier player would most likely buy one of each offer as they go along. But lower progress players might need to buy multiples of lower offers to keep moving forward and eventually reach other rewards they can still qualify for.
"I would be concerned if there was a significant amount of content locked behind that pass"
This is the slippery slope I'm talking about. I might not happen. It might.
Future content locked behind a paywall.
I'll just sit in the corner with my tinfoil hat
Why is the resort pass on that slippery slope, but the cash offers themselves not on that slippery slope? Weren't we on that slippery slope on launch day? If the resort pass changes things, what makes the resort pass sufficiently more slippery that it warrants extra scrutiny?
"I would be concerned if there was a significant amount of content locked behind that pass"
This is the slippery slope I'm talking about. I might not happen. It might.
Future content locked behind a paywall.
I'll just sit in the corner with my tinfoil hat
Why is the resort pass on that slippery slope, but the cash offers themselves not on that slippery slope? Weren't we on that slippery slope on launch day? If the resort pass changes things, what makes the resort pass sufficiently more slippery that it warrants extra scrutiny?
See this is why it doesn’t make sense for this not to be ok. Kabam have offered 10+ times more than what is in this event over one weekend, and somehow that isn’t enough to get people annoyed that things are gated behind paying. But if it’s put on an event, and you can pay to get more, that’s worth getting the pitchforks out for?
Why is that greedy? Why is that a slippery slope?
It is not a surprise that things are offered for cash, they always will be. We need spenders to have an advantage, otherwise literally why spend?
As kabam Mike previously said. This Is a battle pass kinda thing, I for one think this is a bad sign of things to come..
Yes we get "free rewards" but if you want the extra good stuff you've gotta pay up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not free to play, I've spent a good chunk of money on this game (mainly on July 4th/cyber Monday) but if it's at the point now where it's every month you've gotta pay X amount to get the extra good stuff I'm not okay with that, I for one see this as a very slippery slope.
Do we have to buy it, no.
I'm just stating that this doesn't look good for the future of the game.
Ah yes... Free to Play games that have a battle pass for people who want more, all do real bad...
Like Fortnite. Apex Legends. Destiny 2. And many... many other games. All of them super unsuccessful. Practically dead games at this point.
The games you've mentioned are majority played on console/pc
This is a mobile game.
Kabam need to stay in there lane.
Getting a touch greedy imo
Games are games, doesn't matter what platform they're on. There is no lane in game development. Games need to make money, if they don't then Games cease to exist. This is universal whether it's console, PC, mobile, Tesla, Toaster, and every other place games can be played. If a non-live service game doesn't do well, there won't be another one in that series. If a developer can't afford the costs of development anymore, they don't just find a new way to make things better, they end up closing. If a live service game fails to bring in revenue, that live service stops and anything you've invested into it be it time or money is lost permanently.
Thinking that platforms make anything different in terms of revenue generation and development is just plain wrong.
DNA3000. I totally understand and agree with you on your comment. My concern was that (you and I both know) a cavalier or higher will accidentally purchase another token item from the first row and then come onto the forum screaming at the mods. It's a vicious cycle.
Why would you spend on this game for anything at this point? They can’t even fix parry. They can fix any issue that is an advantage to the player in an hour but parry is broke. Better leave it that way for awhile. But keep giving them your money. Makes sense to me….Oh and that bishop on mixmaster in map 7. Great move Kabam. Well done.
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At the end of the day, you don't have to engage in the game in anyway, shape or form, just log in. Even if you added a paid calendar, it does the same thing.
Calendars are true freebies which is why some people want them (no effort), but the way they added it, it's honestly just low effort. 10 fights (any mode in game) to get the glasses. Glasses gives you points on the milestones in Summoner Camp which gives you tokens for the store. Convoluted, yes - but meant to encourage time spent in game, I think.
Spend time in game for ten fights. Spend time in game to collect milestones. Spend time in game to cash in tokens in the store. Time, time, time.
If anything, it's meant to discourage just logging in for free stuff.
"This item is for information only and remains visible here after purchassing a Resort Pass. Purchasing one of the Summ(on)er Resort Pass bundles from the Unit Store will allow claiming of Summ(on)er Resort Solo Event rewards"
Every 7 days, you will get a token which you can convert into more prizes in the store.
Buying the resort pass (whether plus or not) gives you access to the second set of milestones called Summ(on)er Resort. Buying the Plus pass like you did just gave you 7 milestones/days in advance. So, if you buy plus, the reward is you don't have to win 70 fights over the week.
If this makes no difference in your game play, then at the end of the first week you will be one week ahead, so you will end up on day 14 (if you started yesterday, you're currently on milestone/day 9).
It suggests you can’t claim milestone 2 on day 2, rather you have to reach X+1 to claim X, but that’s not how it working - and therefore there is very little difference between pass plus. If regular pass can’t claim the final milestone it’s a big price difference.
The only added complexity is if a player is *not* high enough progress for some of those rewards. In that case, for them they won't get one of each. Instead, to advance to the next reward they will have to take two of something lower if they can't get the next one. *If* this happens, depending on which color token they can't grab they will have some choices as to what else to get.
So the simplest way to think about the event is that there is a set of milestones that act like a calendar. We get one reward per day, unless we buy boosters that let us skip ahead and grab a bunch in one day. And we have a punch card of rewards we fill over time. Most likely, one of each reward up to the maximum we can get. For free to play players that maximum will be fourteen, the first fourteen rewards up to the 5* AG crystal. Lower progress players may not be able to get one of each, and will have to instead get more than one of some while skipping others they don't qualify for.
Kabam, your events normally make sense but with this amount of confusion you must admit you messed it up.
This Is a battle pass kinda thing, I for one think this is a bad sign of things to come..
Yes we get "free rewards" but if you want the extra good stuff you've gotta pay up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not free to play, I've spent a good chunk of money on this game (mainly on July 4th/cyber Monday) but if it's at the point now where it's every month you've gotta pay X amount to get the extra good stuff I'm not okay with that, I for one see this as a very slippery slope.
Do we have to buy it, no.
I'm just stating that this doesn't look good for the future of the game.
Like Fortnite. Apex Legends. Destiny 2. And many... many other games. All of them super unsuccessful. Practically dead games at this point.
July 4th offers are much, much more lucrative and impactful on spenders vs non spenders. So why is that no big deal but suddenly this is?
This game has, and always will offer a heavy advantage to spenders. If it doesn’t, people will cease to spend, and I’m sure you will enjoy the last months of the game without offers like this just before the game dies.
In other words, the game has always sold stuff to spenders. But the battle pass only realistically targets its sales to people who are otherwise actually playing the game. I think that shift is not a bad shift.
This is a mobile game.
Kabam need to stay in there lane.
Getting a touch greedy imo
A Cavalier player would most likely buy one of each offer as they go along. But lower progress players might need to buy multiples of lower offers to keep moving forward and eventually reach other rewards they can still qualify for.
Why is that greedy? Why is that a slippery slope?
It is not a surprise that things are offered for cash, they always will be. We need spenders to have an advantage, otherwise literally why spend?
Thinking that platforms make anything different in terms of revenue generation and development is just plain wrong.