Drive to a Million Facebook Likes!

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  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    edited November 2017

    If we reach goal, it will be accessible for everyone. It's not required to have a Facebook Account.

    Is it accessible to people without access to a credit card? Pretty sure its not so its NOT accessible to everyone. On a side note theres 0% chance we hit that mark lol.
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,336 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    A lot of companies advertise stupid prices on stuff IF you like their page.

    Kabam is doing the same thing, in reverse and want to hit a number first . No issue with that.

    Probably OT but how many of you have run through your entire 2* roster since the announcement just to see how many points a round makes?

    Are you stupid like me and plan to invest in ranking/levelling all those crappy 2* currently sitting on 1/10?

    I'm not a complete idiot, I'll wait until the event arrives to see what the AI looks like.

  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,963 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    Draco2199 wrote: »

    Is it accessible to people without access to a credit card? Pretty sure its not so its NOT accessible to everyone. On a side note theres 0% chance we hit that mark lol.

    Everyone that pays a dollar. Meaning you don't have to have a Facebook Accout and/or Like their Page to benefit if goal is met. There are 3100 Units available if you pay about $100 USD. Does that mean it's unfair to those who don't spend as well?
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,689 ★★★★★
    Wont be a free 4*. It'll be a free 2* with a increased chance at a 3* or 4*

    No it sounds like it's actually a 4* crystal with the champs that we vote on. @Draco2199 anyone who has access to the game can find a way to get the $1 offer if they really want to and if they don't it's a 4*. Not sure why you've made this a thing lol.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    edited November 2017

    No it sounds like it's actually a 4* crystal with the champs that we vote on. @Draco2199 anyone who has access to the game can find a way to get the $1 offer if they really want to and if they don't it's a 4*. Not sure why you've made this a thing lol.

    This is simple not true lol.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★

    Everyone that pays a dollar. Meaning you don't have to have a Facebook Accout and/or Like their Page to benefit if goal is met. There are 3100 Units available if you pay about $100 USD. Does that mean it's unfair to those who don't spend as well?

    If you are 13 and don't have a credit card and your parents won't let you use theirs....is it accessible to them? Cuz thats probably about 10-15% of the player base. So please explain again how its accessible to everyone?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,963 ★★★★★
    Draco2199 wrote: »

    If you are 13 and don't have a credit card and your parents won't let you use theirs....is it accessible to them? Cuz thats probably about 10-15% of the player base. So please explain again how its accessible to everyone?

    If you're 13, and don't have access to a credit card, as understandable as that may be, it's not the responsibility of the game to make the Sales free. It is a Sale. Not a Gift for all Players. Purchase is required. The same way purchase is required for all Sales. That's what makes them Sales.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,689 ★★★★★
    Draco2199 wrote: »

    If you are 13 and don't have a credit card and your parents won't let you use theirs....is it accessible to them? Cuz thats probably about 10-15% of the player base. So please explain again how its accessible to everyone?

    Many many 13 year olds do have access to one dollar for an online purchase whether from parents or gift cards etc. 13 year olds with mobile devices generally have some money and can buy a gift card if they really want it. At the end of the day, it's a fraction of that 10-15% who might literally have no way to get the offer. They can still get a 5* with their 2*s. Just seems like a non issue to me.
  • mum_m2mum_m2 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★
    Draco2199 wrote: »

    My feelings aren't hurt at all, why would you make a personal attack against someone on their opinion? Also how is it our goal to get 1 million likes on Kabam's facebook page? This doesn't add any money to my bank account? Since you can easily fork over $1 are you offering to pay for everyone who plays the game and can't? If not then you probably shouldn't make insensitive comments. You do realize some people that play this game are 13 and up meaning they don't have a credit card meaning they can't pay for an item if they wanted to because they legally can't own a form a payment to do it. So how does a paper route help those people? I'm assuming you are going to step up and fund all those kids that have helped make Kabam reach "THEIR" goal.

    I'm sorry I just don't agree with you at all here. My perspective is that this is a community goal that we are rewarded for. They are tasking us with something and in return we get something for it. It's pretty easy.

    Furthermore,
    Those kids can earn very good rewards that will catapult their Roster and you don't have to spend a dime at all. Five star shards for using 1* and 2* champions. Sounds great to me.

    This is a win win win for everyone.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    DNA3000 wrote: »

    If I understand @eXtripa69 correctly, his issue is not that he doesn't want to spend the money or that the cost of the offer is too high. It is the reverse: since the cost is so low, its unfair to the F2P players because it basically gives too much value to the paying players.

    That's not the problem. I can't spend because there is no way for me to get any money in the game. That's a problem that the majority of free2play players have.
    Surveys doesn't work, credit card or asking the parents doesn't work, giftcards is not an answer too.
    That's why this "offer" is bad. Is basically a "gift" that free2play players like me can't have it, but everyone else will get it.

    So that's why this offer should had been released at a cost of 10$ instead. To be more like an offer and less like a gift
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★

    @eXtripa69 how would you feel if the deal was literally one cents? Would it still be against your morals. I’m not taking the piss here this is a genuine question

    As I said before, it would still be impossible for me to buy it.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,963 ★★★★★
    You want them to make it more expensive for everyone because some people can't buy it? That really makes no sense to me.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    I'm asking for this to be available for everyone, for units. If they decided to sell this for pay2win players only they should have increased the cost of it
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,963 ★★★★★
    That's not fair or reasonable at all. I understand you feeling left out, but it's not better to expect others to pay more. Not everything that comes along will be free. There are many Offers in the game for Units. It's the same with this. Some are for Units, some are for real money. They've made it as reasonable as possible by making it a dollar. It's the same with Presale Crystals. They're sold for money, for a chance at an advanced copy of the Champs. You're free to request it. I have no problems with anyone asking. I'm just saying it's not an unfair situation.
  • GruftyGrufty Member Posts: 187
    For all those complaining about the $1 offer saying you can't get money into the game, there's plenty of ways.

    You could easily buy a $10 gift card and use some of that.

    I use an app called "Google rewards" which I earn money from answering questions and then sometimes use the money I receive to buy things in game. If you download this app now, you will easily have more than $1 to spend before this offer comes out.

    There's other ways as well to get money into the game without access to a credit card so if people are still complaining it's because they just don't want to spend (which is their choice not to spend any real money).
  • Xcrøss_TRXcrøss_TR Member Posts: 142
    Don't complain ... We don't make the 1 million anyway , so don't be silly
  • TrendlyFynnTrendlyFynn Member Posts: 35
    Grufty wrote: »
    For all those complaining about the $1 offer saying you can't get money into the game, there's plenty of ways.

    You could easily buy a $10 gift card and use some of that.

    I use an app called "Google rewards" which I earn money from answering questions and then sometimes use the money I receive to buy things in game. If you download this app now, you will easily have more than $1 to spend before this offer comes out.

    There's other ways as well to get money into the game without access to a credit card so if people are still complaining it's because they just don't want to spend (which is their choice not to spend any real money).

    Google rewards isn't available in every country.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Wont be a free 4*. It'll be a free 2* with a increased chance at a 3* or 4*
    eXtripa69 wrote: »
    I'm asking for this to be available for everyone, for units. If they decided to sell this for pay2win players only they should have increased the cost of it

    This is just selfish thinking.
    Firstly you’re assuming there are only two categories of players in this scenario. Pay2win and free2play. But that’s not true, there are people who don’t spend at all, people who spend rarely, people who spend every so often, etc, all the way up to the whales who spend all the time. According to you, people who spend once a year are the same as the whales. This isn’t true. Kabam haven't decided to sell this to pay2win only, they have put an offer up for a dollar. If a player who hasn’t spent in their life on the game decides to buy it, according to you that makes them a pay2win.

    Secondly, you’re basically saying if I can’t have it cheap nobody else should. Which is childish and ridiculous. In one way or another, you do have the chance to buy the offer, gift card, survey, adding it to your phone bill etc. Saying otherwise without reason must be because you don’t understand how to, or because you’re lying to prove your point. If you genuinely do have a reason you can’t use those methods I look forward to hearing it.

    Thirdly, I don’t know whether you’re on apple or android but if you’re Apple, here is a link about how to use a gift card without a credit/debit card. All you do is choose no payment and it allows you to use a gift card. https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204034

    If you are on android, then you can download the google rewards app and fill out some surveys or add it to your phone bill. If your parents or bill payer are against that then give them a dollar.
  • FluffyFluffy Member Posts: 446 ★★
    I simply refuse to believe that there is NO WAY to get money, whether real money or earned through some virtual rewards, onto a Google account. Google is a global company that deals with developers that are trying to make money. For them to make it impossible to add some form of currency would be counterproductive to their entire business model.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    mum_m2 wrote: »

    I'm sorry I just don't agree with you at all here. My perspective is that this is a community goal that we are rewarded for. They are tasking us with something and in return we get something for it. It's pretty easy.

    Furthermore,
    Those kids can earn very good rewards that will catapult their Roster and you don't have to spend a dime at all. Five star shards for using 1* and 2* champions. Sounds great to me.

    This is a win win win for everyone.

    Well we are only at 793K and our daily likes needed has now increased to 12,134 from 11,712 a few days ago. I don't think any of us have to worry about reaching the goal anymore lol. So I guess my perspective of you should market to 100% of the player base instead of 60% must sound silly.
  • IAmNotUrMomIAmNotUrMom Member Posts: 648 ★★★
    edited November 2017
    Draco2199 wrote: »

    If you are 13 and don't have a credit card and your parents won't let you use theirs....is it accessible to them? Cuz thats probably about 10-15% of the player base. So please explain again how its accessible to everyone?

    Yes, online survey tools and apps give you free iTunes credits or Google play credits. It takes time to do the surveys and get enough credits to redeem for value, but it eliminates the need for using real money or a credit card.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    Fluffy wrote: »
    I simply refuse to believe that there is NO WAY to get money, whether real money or earned through some virtual rewards, onto a Google account. Google is a global company that deals with developers that are trying to make money. For them to make it impossible to add some form of currency would be counterproductive to their entire business model.

    It's called children with parents who won't let them spend on games. It's probably 35% of the player base. So yeah it's clearly impossible that could be a scenario I agree. We won't hit the goal so we don't have to worry about it anymore. There won't be an offer. Their 1 million goal was basically what they averaged per year in 3 years and they wanted it in 20 days. Never going to happen so looks like we won't get the offer.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    That's not fair or reasonable at all. I understand you feeling left out, but it's not better to expect others to pay more. Not everything that comes along will be free. There are many Offers in the game for Units. It's the same with this. Some are for Units, some are for real money. They've made it as reasonable as possible by making it a dollar. It's the same with Presale Crystals. They're sold for money, for a chance at an advanced copy of the Champs. You're free to request it. I have no problems with anyone asking. I'm just saying it's not an unfair situation.

    So your response is I'm sorry you feel left out but too bad, well that too bad probably goes to about 200,000 people that can like this on facebook. So now that too bad looks like too bad for you that you won't get the offer due to poor marketing.
  • SolswerdSolswerd Member Posts: 1,879 ★★★★
    @Draco2199

    Through out this thread you have argued that this whole thing is bad marketing...and I have no problem conceding that point to you as I do not have any background in marketing. But the only time I would be concerned about the quality of Kabam's marketing would be if they were using illegal marketing tactics....otherwise I really do not care.

    But I have to ask, as you have passionately have argued about the accessibility of the $1 dollar crystal....if you truly believe this:
    Draco2199 wrote: »
    For a million likes we better get a 5*, what the heck is the point of getting a soon to be obsolete 4* with 6*s coming lol.

    Then wouldn't the lack of accessibility of this offer actually be protecting the people that cannot purchase it from wasting their money? It just seems strange that you mocked what $1 will get you, then proceeded to argue that it is unfair that there are people who cannot take advantage of the deal.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    edited November 2017
    Raganator wrote: »

    Please stop throwing around numbers without any facts to back it up. You lose credibility.

    https://www.parksassociates.com/blog/article/parks-pr2011-mobilegaming

    I was being conservative in my estimates

    How does it sound silly, you can look up mobile game statistics and age range of players and percentages. Why don't you look it up and do some research and then come back and then comment otherwise you just lose all credibility.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    Solswerd wrote: »
    @Draco2199

    Through out this thread you have argued that this whole thing is bad marketing...and I have no problem conceding that point to you as I do not have any background in marketing. But the only time I would be concerned about the quality of Kabam's marketing would be if they were using illegal marketing tactics....otherwise I really do not care.

    But I have to ask, as you have passionately have argued about the accessibility of the $1 dollar crystal....if you truly believe this:

    Then wouldn't the lack of accessibility of this offer actually be protecting the people that cannot purchase it from wasting their money? It just seems strange that you mocked what $1 will get you, then proceeded to argue that it is unfair that there are people who cannot take advantage of the deal.

    How did I mock what $1 would get you? I said the marketing has alienated a much needed player base to like the page so we could achieve the goal. Try to keep up.
  • SolswerdSolswerd Member Posts: 1,879 ★★★★
    Draco2199 wrote: »

    How did I mock what $1 would get you? I said the marketing has alienated a much needed player base to like the page so we could achieve the goal. Try to keep up.

    ?...I think you mocked it when you said that what we get for one dollar is "a soon to be obsolete 4*"
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    Solswerd wrote: »

    ?...I think you mocked it when you said that what we get for one dollar is "a soon to be obsolete 4*"

    Oh you mean 6*s aren't coming out and 5* won't be more plentiful and 4*s will be the new 3*s.....oh yeah I'm totally off on that lol.
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