Parry Input Issue - Android Devices [Merged Threads]

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  • ToscanoJuniorToscanoJunior Member Posts: 24
    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,758 ★★★★★

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    A hotfix is a patch to update the game. Not all aspects but just some. You can't roll back a game like this since each new update has new content. There are always changes to the game itself that aren't just new content so it's really not possible for that to happen.
  • Th0rIRLTh0rIRL Member Posts: 32
    Update : Since this morning I get a slightly better response on Parrying but now I cannot complete a five hit combo on attack. In 2nd or 3rd hit my champ starts to do heavy attack !!!! Obviously that's even worst ! Herc - MoJo - CGR had huge issues with 5 hit combos - Human torch was a little bit better but still was throwing heavies for no reason. Samsung Galaxy 21+ Ultra .
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,758 ★★★★★
    Shinyuu said:

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    That's what should be done. Parry, dex, block is all old code that has been in the game for a long time and should not be touched. If it isn't broken don't touch it.
    No. Not how it works.
  • Badass84Badass84 Member Posts: 317 ★★★
    We figured out what the problem is.
    Every action is a bit delayed.
    If you parry a bit earlier than usual, it fits. Same goes for dex block and everything else.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,758 ★★★★★
    edited February 2022
    Shinyuu said:

    Shinyuu said:

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    A hotfix is a patch to update the game. Not all aspects but just some. You can't roll back a game like this since each new update has new content. There are always changes to the game itself that aren't just new content so it's really not possible for that to happen.
    Actually you can if you code with tabs and you can go into it to make any changes. You take the section that has parry, dex, block, AI speeds, etc from a previous code and then you keep that and replace the old code of event quest or side quest with the new code for this month's quest and boom game fixed. Happy players.
    Shinyuu said:

    See that's the 1 thing you clicked disagree on that was right because you don't know how it works.

    Shinyuu said:

    Come on finish up your YouTube video on coding or your article on Google and enlighten us. You say that isn't how it works and you say you love to "discuss" so let's hear it expert.

    I'm just enjoying you melting down. I'm not a programmer and neither are you. I can confidently say, this game cannot do roll backs.

    Also, I don't use the reaction buttons. I wouldn't click disagree and not say anything. I'd rather respond than use a button.

    Shinyuu said:

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    A hotfix is a patch to update the game. Not all aspects but just some. You can't roll back a game like this since each new update has new content. There are always changes to the game itself that aren't just new content so it's really not possible for that to happen.
    Actually you can if you code with tabs and you can go into it to make any changes. You take the section that has parry, dex, block, AI speeds, etc from a previous code and then you keep that and replace the old code of event quest or side quest with the new code for this month's quest and boom game fixed. Happy players.
    Shinyuu said:

    See that's the 1 thing you clicked disagree on that was right because you don't know how it works.

    Shinyuu said:

    Come on finish up your YouTube video on coding or your article on Google and enlighten us. You say that isn't how it works and you say you love to "discuss" so let's hear it expert.

    I'm just enjoying you melting down. I'm not a programmer and neither are you. I can confidently say, this game cannot do roll backs.

    Also, I don't use the reaction buttons. I wouldn't click disagree and not say anything. I'd rather respond than use a button.
    Oh actually I am a programmer but I've never messed with my own game engine because that's dumb and cost a lot to maintain. Can't roll back? Really that's why a lot of players went online to find the January APK file just to make the game playable again and still have access to EVERYTHING except the new EQ and side quest.
    Installing a previous APK is not the same as rolling back as what you are trying to infer. lol but keep going, this is gold. Kabam would have to remove 33.0 and force everyone to reinstall 33.2.3. Everyone would lose any progress they made in MEQ, SQ and any crystals they opened. Everyone would lose the new content. You can't rollback the game to the previous version without severely interrupting everyone especially those who aren't experiencing these issues. Imagine pulling herc from a 6* today and Kabam takes it away.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,758 ★★★★★
    Shinyuu said:

    Shinyuu said:

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    A hotfix is a patch to update the game. Not all aspects but just some. You can't roll back a game like this since each new update has new content. There are always changes to the game itself that aren't just new content so it's really not possible for that to happen.
    Actually you can if you code with tabs and you can go into it to make any changes. You take the section that has parry, dex, block, AI speeds, etc from a previous code and then you keep that and replace the old code of event quest or side quest with the new code for this month's quest and boom game fixed. Happy players.
    Shinyuu said:

    See that's the 1 thing you clicked disagree on that was right because you don't know how it works.

    Shinyuu said:

    Come on finish up your YouTube video on coding or your article on Google and enlighten us. You say that isn't how it works and you say you love to "discuss" so let's hear it expert.

    I'm just enjoying you melting down. I'm not a programmer and neither are you. I can confidently say, this game cannot do roll backs.

    Also, I don't use the reaction buttons. I wouldn't click disagree and not say anything. I'd rather respond than use a button.

    Shinyuu said:

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    A hotfix is a patch to update the game. Not all aspects but just some. You can't roll back a game like this since each new update has new content. There are always changes to the game itself that aren't just new content so it's really not possible for that to happen.
    Actually you can if you code with tabs and you can go into it to make any changes. You take the section that has parry, dex, block, AI speeds, etc from a previous code and then you keep that and replace the old code of event quest or side quest with the new code for this month's quest and boom game fixed. Happy players.
    Shinyuu said:

    See that's the 1 thing you clicked disagree on that was right because you don't know how it works.

    Shinyuu said:

    Come on finish up your YouTube video on coding or your article on Google and enlighten us. You say that isn't how it works and you say you love to "discuss" so let's hear it expert.

    I'm just enjoying you melting down. I'm not a programmer and neither are you. I can confidently say, this game cannot do roll backs.

    Also, I don't use the reaction buttons. I wouldn't click disagree and not say anything. I'd rather respond than use a button.
    Oh actually I am a programmer but I've never messed with my own game engine because that's dumb and cost a lot to maintain. Can't roll back? Really that's why a lot of players went online to find the January APK file just to make the game playable again and still have access to EVERYTHING except the new EQ and side quest.
    Elaborate on "your own game engine". What kinds of games does it run? Did you design it from the ground up? Let us bask in your glory of your programming greatness.
  • gforcefangforcefan Member Posts: 393 ★★★
    edited February 2022


    Installing a previous APK is not the same as rolling back as what you are trying to infer. lol but keep going, this is gold. Kabam would have to remove 33.0 and force everyone to reinstall 33.2.3. Everyone would lose any progress they made in MEQ, SQ and any crystals they opened. Everyone would lose the new content. You can't rollback the game to the previous version without severely interrupting everyone especially those who aren't experiencing these issues. Imagine pulling herc from a 6* today and Kabam takes it away.

    You are mistaken. If you have 2 devices, roll back or don't update one. Start the new EQ on updated device. Log off and log on with the old version. Voila, you can finish that map just fine. But its a pain since you have to do it each time. So there is nothing about the EQ that requires the patch. It's just a check the program runs before showing you the map on the menu.
  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,479 Guardian

    These failed/ dropped inputs. Omg!!! Literally the death of me on this unplayable broken game.

    Your hot patch "fix" isn't working. Fyi.

    As far as I know, the hotfix isn't out yet
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Member Posts: 635 ★★★

    These failed/ dropped inputs. Omg!!! Literally the death of me on this unplayable broken game.

    Your hot patch "fix" isn't working. Fyi.

    Fix is not out yet.
  • Beta_RayBill01Beta_RayBill01 Member Posts: 4
    Shinyuu said:

    Shinyuu said:

    Shinyuu said:

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    A hotfix is a patch to update the game. Not all aspects but just some. You can't roll back a game like this since each new update has new content. There are always changes to the game itself that aren't just new content so it's really not possible for that to happen.
    Actually you can if you code with tabs and you can go into it to make any changes. You take the section that has parry, dex, block, AI speeds, etc from a previous code and then you keep that and replace the old code of event quest or side quest with the new code for this month's quest and boom game fixed. Happy players.
    Shinyuu said:

    See that's the 1 thing you clicked disagree on that was right because you don't know how it works.

    Shinyuu said:

    Come on finish up your YouTube video on coding or your article on Google and enlighten us. You say that isn't how it works and you say you love to "discuss" so let's hear it expert.

    I'm just enjoying you melting down. I'm not a programmer and neither are you. I can confidently say, this game cannot do roll backs.

    Also, I don't use the reaction buttons. I wouldn't click disagree and not say anything. I'd rather respond than use a button.

    Shinyuu said:

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    A hotfix is a patch to update the game. Not all aspects but just some. You can't roll back a game like this since each new update has new content. There are always changes to the game itself that aren't just new content so it's really not possible for that to happen.
    Actually you can if you code with tabs and you can go into it to make any changes. You take the section that has parry, dex, block, AI speeds, etc from a previous code and then you keep that and replace the old code of event quest or side quest with the new code for this month's quest and boom game fixed. Happy players.
    Shinyuu said:

    See that's the 1 thing you clicked disagree on that was right because you don't know how it works.

    Shinyuu said:

    Come on finish up your YouTube video on coding or your article on Google and enlighten us. You say that isn't how it works and you say you love to "discuss" so let's hear it expert.

    I'm just enjoying you melting down. I'm not a programmer and neither are you. I can confidently say, this game cannot do roll backs.

    Also, I don't use the reaction buttons. I wouldn't click disagree and not say anything. I'd rather respond than use a button.
    Oh actually I am a programmer but I've never messed with my own game engine because that's dumb and cost a lot to maintain. Can't roll back? Really that's why a lot of players went online to find the January APK file just to make the game playable again and still have access to EVERYTHING except the new EQ and side quest.
    Installing a previous APK is not the same as rolling back. lol but keep going, this is gold.
    That's literally what a roll back is. If players have a new update and then install a previous update. That's rolling back to the previous update. You tell everyone they don't know this, or they don't know that, but you literally said in your previous post you don't know anything about it where you said you're not a programmer. So do us all a favor quit talking things you have 0 knowledge about. Your mom's calling you from your basement. Your hot pocket is ready. Go eat.
    You are literally ignoring the logistics of what an enforced 'rollback' would do on a global user scale after even 30 minutes of content use with the new update. I believe, that, in essence, is what Demon was referring to. No Hotfix or compensation could unilaterally blanket that kind of a move.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,292 Guardian
    Shinyuu said:

    Oh actually I am a programmer but I've never messed with my own game engine because that's dumb and cost a lot to maintain. Can't roll back? Really that's why a lot of players went online to find the January APK file just to make the game playable again and still have access to EVERYTHING except the new EQ and side quest.

    You can in theory roll the entire game client back completely (you cannot do intracode rollbacks as previously discussed). However, the app stores don't give well supported ways to make multiple versions of the same game client available (as far as I'm aware, someone post a link to the reversion recommendations from the vendors for each platform if I'm out of date there), which means if they attempt to do a complete rollback for Android on the Google Play store they will likely need to still get the old version reapproved which takes time (my understanding is it has to do with the mandatory requirements of version tracking) and then everyone who allows normal automatic updates would then get auto reverted and lose access to the new content, even if they were not experiencing any issues. Given the Android issues are not universal, that would be a very drastic step to take.

    Also, there's a significant risk here because while it might seem like the only thing lost is access to the new content, that's not always the case. For example, there are times where if you're running the older version past a certain date the game servers block you from even logging in. This is probably a safety lock to prevent bad side effects or corruptions from happening due to the client mismatch.
  • SearwSearw Member Posts: 4
    It s getting worse day by day
  • Hawkt1Hawkt1 Member Posts: 226
    Is this patch out yet?
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,434 ★★★★★
    Can we get an update as to when the Hotfix will be out?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,485 ★★★★★
    Friendly suggestion to everyone. Maybe hold off on Legendary SQ until the Hotfix comes out. I just tried it, and Heavies aren't coming that easily without consistent Parry.
  • BabaPoolBabaPool Member Posts: 3
    @Kabam Miike que avance tiene en el arreglo del error, la verdad se están gastando recursos de forma innecesaria en las gestas y en las guerras.
  • BabaPoolBabaPool Member Posts: 3
    @Kabam Miike what progress does it have in fixing the error, the truth is that resources are being spent unnecessarily on quests and wars.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,485 ★★★★★

    Friendly suggestion to everyone. Maybe hold off on Legendary SQ until the Hotfix comes out. I just tried it, and Heavies aren't coming that easily without consistent Parry.

    content aside, the big problem here is AQ. We have AQ running with crappy bugged inputs. Nightmarish.
    Just a heads up. Unless people have Aegon, Doom, or KP, it will be more challenging.
  • TheCoverGirlTheCoverGirl Member Posts: 89 ★★
    I've always found a workaround for all the issues previously. This current iteration is next to unplayable. I don't know what happened to get the game to this state, but something has to give. Something has to be done.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    edited February 2022

    Shinyuu said:

    Shinyuu said:

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    A hotfix is a patch to update the game. Not all aspects but just some. You can't roll back a game like this since each new update has new content. There are always changes to the game itself that aren't just new content so it's really not possible for that to happen.
    Actually you can if you code with tabs and you can go into it to make any changes. You take the section that has parry, dex, block, AI speeds, etc from a previous code and then you keep that and replace the old code of event quest or side quest with the new code for this month's quest and boom game fixed. Happy players.
    Shinyuu said:

    See that's the 1 thing you clicked disagree on that was right because you don't know how it works.

    Shinyuu said:

    Come on finish up your YouTube video on coding or your article on Google and enlighten us. You say that isn't how it works and you say you love to "discuss" so let's hear it expert.

    I'm just enjoying you melting down. I'm not a programmer and neither are you. I can confidently say, this game cannot do roll backs.

    Also, I don't use the reaction buttons. I wouldn't click disagree and not say anything. I'd rather respond than use a button.

    Shinyuu said:

    I still don't understand what kabam is trying to do to fix the problem. I have no idea about programming, what is a hotfix? Why can't they just go back to previous version?

    A hotfix is a patch to update the game. Not all aspects but just some. You can't roll back a game like this since each new update has new content. There are always changes to the game itself that aren't just new content so it's really not possible for that to happen.
    Actually you can if you code with tabs and you can go into it to make any changes. You take the section that has parry, dex, block, AI speeds, etc from a previous code and then you keep that and replace the old code of event quest or side quest with the new code for this month's quest and boom game fixed. Happy players.
    Shinyuu said:

    See that's the 1 thing you clicked disagree on that was right because you don't know how it works.

    Shinyuu said:

    Come on finish up your YouTube video on coding or your article on Google and enlighten us. You say that isn't how it works and you say you love to "discuss" so let's hear it expert.

    I'm just enjoying you melting down. I'm not a programmer and neither are you. I can confidently say, this game cannot do roll backs.

    Also, I don't use the reaction buttons. I wouldn't click disagree and not say anything. I'd rather respond than use a button.
    Oh actually I am a programmer but I've never messed with my own game engine because that's dumb and cost a lot to maintain. Can't roll back? Really that's why a lot of players went online to find the January APK file just to make the game playable again and still have access to EVERYTHING except the new EQ and side quest.
    Installing a previous APK is not the same as rolling back as what you are trying to infer. lol but keep going, this is gold. Kabam would have to remove 33.0 and force everyone to reinstall 33.2.3. Everyone would lose any progress they made in MEQ, SQ and any crystals they opened. Everyone would lose the new content. You can't rollback the game to the previous version without severely interrupting everyone especially those who aren't experiencing these issues. Imagine pulling herc from a 6* today and Kabam takes it away.
    The rollback has been done before for pettier reasons.
    Yo Mods, this guy broke ToS, he went and download the previous version apk from a 3rd Party site...
  • ZeflemelZeflemel Member Posts: 9
    DNA3000 said:

    Shinyuu said:

    Oh actually I am a programmer but I've never messed with my own game engine because that's dumb and cost a lot to maintain. Can't roll back? Really that's why a lot of players went online to find the January APK file just to make the game playable again and still have access to EVERYTHING except the new EQ and side quest.

    You can in theory roll the entire game client back completely (you cannot do intracode rollbacks as previously discussed). However, the app stores don't give well supported ways to make multiple versions of the same game client available (as far as I'm aware, someone post a link to the reversion recommendations from the vendors for each platform if I'm out of date there), which means if they attempt to do a complete rollback for Android on the Google Play store they will likely need to still get the old version reapproved which takes time (my understanding is it has to do with the mandatory requirements of version tracking) and then everyone who allows normal automatic updates would then get auto reverted and lose access to the new content, even if they were not experiencing any issues. Given the Android issues are not universal, that would be a very drastic step to take.

    Also, there's a significant risk here because while it might seem like the only thing lost is access to the new content, that's not always the case. For example, there are times where if you're running the older version past a certain date the game servers block you from even logging in. This is probably a safety lock to prevent bad side effects or corruptions from happening due to the client mismatch.
    A load of carp!
    They previous version is built on a game engine version right?
    They added their own code with SECTIONS for stuff like, new animations but mostly new content right?
    NOW! Let's debug, what did they do different?
    Did they work on a new version of the game engine? Yes/No
    -if Yes
    - rollback to previous game engine version
    -if No
    - inspect newly added code for bugs, slim down the code.
    Did they add extra sections of code ? Yes/No
    -if Yes:
    - Where exactly? Check previously KNOWN reliable code for that section and look for bugs.
    - What code exactly? new BALANCE (yeah right) code that might not be active?
    - continue debug from here, rollback to previous code, delete EXTRA sections of code, inspect content only sections of code. Bug Found === Bug Fix
    -if No
    - Option 1: Magic
    - Option 2: they are incompetent and can't even debug.
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