Does that mean that the only ones at a significant disadvantage are those that have already completed act 7 and passed on the offer the first time? Since anyone who bought the offer is able to get it twice and anyone who is yet to complete act 7 is also able to buy it twice.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
Yeah, this is not okay. You can’t let some people get it twice and not give the opportunity to others. If you bought it for the FIRST TIME today, then you should be able to get it a second time, so everyone who has completed 7.4 gets to have the chance at the offer twice, instead of some and not others.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
This is exactly why progression titles shouldn't target too small a population, be tied to any offers at all, and/or apparently released earlier than they should be.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
Will those thronebreakers who got the offer today trigger it a second time when they complete act 7?
Alright, everybody, we are re-enabling this offer for all Summoners that are Thronebreaker+, this includes those that have already purchased it. We will not be removing the resources or rank-ups of anybody that already purchased it. If further action is required, we will look into that in the future.
What? You can’t be serious. How can you let that put the game in such imbalance? How can you let some buy the offer that was supposed to be decisive progression-wise twice and some just once? Unfair to so many players and on so many levels. This can’t be right.
There used to be balance on various levels in this game, the once that I miss most is the money vs skill one. Can’t believe what it’s come down to.
I will and I think many might want to reconsider any further time and money investments in MCOC. How can the team just turn a blind eye to the influence this is going to have?
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
So you don't see how allowing 1 group the chance to buy it twice but not another group is not fair?
The whole reason it came back was for the group that is now getting screwed over. The whole reason it came out today instead of yesterday as previously planned, was because you said y'all wanted to make sure it only went to the correct people.
The only fair thing is everyone gets it once or everyone can get it twice, because that is consistent and the same. Having some people be allowed to buy it twice and others only once is not fair at all.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
Post Spring Cleaning, people like myself who was not in a situation at the time to get the offer post 7.4 completion, I was able to whale out and buy the deals for spring cleaning. With this I had 20k units on hand. So that when this deal came out i would have enough units to buy and 10k left over. Today i bought it for the first time, I have the units to buy it again, but i am not even getting the chance to decide if i want to? I want to buy this a second time since I am now financially able to. But I can’t because its not been re-enabled for me. Where as other people are able to get this twice.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
Fair = Everyone gets the chance to pick up the offer an equal number of times.
The only way to make it truly fair would be on a per account basis, check how many times they've purchased the offer, then offer them the offer however many times they haven't bought it.
I feel like the amount units on players' accounts shouldn't really be Kabam's concern(unless it's a hacker or something but that's not really the context here), considering people have purchased odins just to buy this. That's a lot of real, tangible money.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
Post Spring Cleaning, people like myself who was not in a situation at the time to get the offer post 7.4 completion, I was able to whale out and buy the deals for spring cleaning. With this I had 20k units on hand. So that when this deal came out i would have enough units to buy and 10k left over. Today i bought it for the first time, I have the units to buy it again, but i am not even getting the chance to decide if i want to? I want to buy this a second time since I am now financially able to. But I can’t because its not been re-enabled for me. Where as other people are able to get this twice.
I am in the same boat unit wise. I had the 10k the first time but passed. Was able to use Spring Cleaning, so started today with 24k units.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
So you don't see how allowing 1 group the chance to buy it twice but not another group is not fair?
The whole reason it came back was for the group that is now getting screwed over. The whole reason it came out today instead of yesterday as previously planned, was because you said y'all wanted to make sure it only went to the correct people.
The only fair thing is everyone gets it once or everyone can get it twice, because that is consistent and the same. Having some people be allowed to buy it twice and others only once is not fair at all.
Again, we're not saying we're not doing that. We've only made decisions on what to do today and are still looking into the future.
For the second "chance": The 10k units has a limit of one day purchase. Can you at least leave the regular 12k enabled for 10 days, a month, I don't know, for those of us who can't get all these units in 24 hours? It's better than nothing and a little more fair play.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
So you don't see how allowing 1 group the chance to buy it twice but not another group is not fair?
The whole reason it came back was for the group that is now getting screwed over. The whole reason it came out today instead of yesterday as previously planned, was because you said y'all wanted to make sure it only went to the correct people.
The only fair thing is everyone gets it once or everyone can get it twice, because that is consistent and the same. Having some people be allowed to buy it twice and others only once is not fair at all.
Again, we're not saying we're not doing that. We've only made decisions on what to do today and are still looking into the future.
Re-enabling for people who still have only bought it once for the first time today, is still something that should be a decision made today.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
So you don't see how allowing 1 group the chance to buy it twice but not another group is not fair?
The whole reason it came back was for the group that is now getting screwed over. The whole reason it came out today instead of yesterday as previously planned, was because you said y'all wanted to make sure it only went to the correct people.
The only fair thing is everyone gets it once or everyone can get it twice, because that is consistent and the same. Having some people be allowed to buy it twice and others only once is not fair at all.
Again, we're not saying we're not doing that. We've only made decisions on what to do today and are still looking into the future.
Re-enabling for people who still have only bought it once for the first time today, is still something that should be a decision made today.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
So you don't see how allowing 1 group the chance to buy it twice but not another group is not fair?
The whole reason it came back was for the group that is now getting screwed over. The whole reason it came out today instead of yesterday as previously planned, was because you said y'all wanted to make sure it only went to the correct people.
The only fair thing is everyone gets it once or everyone can get it twice, because that is consistent and the same. Having some people be allowed to buy it twice and others only once is not fair at all.
Again, we're not saying we're not doing that. We've only made decisions on what to do today and are still looking into the future.
Re-enabling for people who still have only bought it once for the first time today, is still something that should be a decision made today.
It's a good thing that it's not even Noon yet
Idk if the wink means that it’s something in the works or what, but I am praying that it is re-enabled so I can get it twice 🙌
Alright, everybody, we are re-enabling this offer for all Summoners that are Thronebreaker+, this includes those that have already purchased it. We will not be removing the resources or rank-ups of anybody that already purchased it. If further action is required, we will look into that in the future.
This is further going to cost us competitive players. I am ftp, 100% all content and I don't like this solution kabam. It will create too much imbalance.
We are that pawn who gets sacrificed for the main strategy, which in this case is the revenue. Lol I'll let this one pass too......
All I wanted for me is to participate and not miss the highest content i.e. EOP objectives. Even after griding the game day in day out. I wont be able to do it. I don't care if players whaled and double dipped, it's their choice.
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time, and as we mentioned before, if we need to take further actions, we'll look into it. I don't see how re-enabling the same deal at this exact moment for those that have already spent 10,000 units today is exactly fair either.
Most players don’t but you are doing it not only for certain players, aren’t you ? One more time screw F2P players, thanks. In-game resources - naaah, we rather let em’ spend some money, hell yeah … Once again you’re doing good but doing it wrong. Or at least not for F2P.
And increase loyalty please, we need it. Screw those deals, we wanna play the game and its game modes. But those Loyalty problem still will be existing even with those “changes” which was released today. Tell it to the game team, cause they still will have to do something with it. Save em’ some time and players their nerves.
This was the laziest solution, as well as the most unbalanced one. Yet, the more profitable one.
You said it yourself, "Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time". Yet here we are, further increasing the gap between P2W and F2P.
Normally people would learn from their past mistakes. How much more are needed to be made?
@Kabam Miike Has it been re-enabled? I am not seeing it. I've just bought it once earlier today.
If you already bought it once today (May 4th), it will not reappear.
So you re-enabled the offer (and took extra time to make sure it only went to the correct people) because it wasn't fair to those who didn't buy it the first time after the Paragon announcement was made.
Then in the name of fairness you aren't allowing people to buy it second time today that bought it for the first time today but those who already bought it were allowed to buy it for a second time even though they weren't supposed to be able to purchase it.
Yes, this sounds really fair... extremely fair... so you are in essence rewarding those who bought it the first time and punishing those who passed even though the entire reason to bring it back was to make it fair for those who past the first time.
Kabam logic is at its highest right here...
Wasn't the point of bringing it back just to give people the ability to make an informed decision? Was it "fair" that some people that passed initially got to make that decision after already getting spring cleaning units while others may have had to spend money on units twice? I wasn't even mildly upset of that. Not sure how people think they should be upset about this.
People like myself who bought it the first time when completing 7.4 bought it without knowing about paragon, I like many others decided to buy it. Those who didn’t was aware of the resources they decided not to buy, this was a limited time offer. Now they have re released it and a paragon title is on the table and the offer has gone out again, people are complaining that some people bought it twice. Everyone has had the opportunity to buy it twice, your choice if you didn’t get it the first time. Because ppl bought it twice they should be banned? If it never came out again the gap between would still be the same, you should be thankful you had the opportunity to buy an expired limited time offer again
People like myself who bought it the first time when completing 7.4 bought it without knowing about paragon, I like many others decided to buy it. Those who didn’t was aware of the resources they decided not to buy, this was a limited time offer. Now they have re released it and a paragon title is on the table and the offer has gone out again, people are complaining that some people bought it twice. Everyone has had the opportunity to buy it twice, your choice if you didn’t get it the first time. Because ppl bought it twice they should be banned? If it never came out again the gap between would still be the same, you should be thankful you had the opportunity to buy an expired limited time offer again
I don't think anyone should be banned, this is on Kabam not the players.
No one should have been able to buy it twice though according to what information was given out originally. It was only supposed to be available to people who passed the first time. Now we have not only people buying it twice, but people who haven't even done Act 7 are getting the offer.
This is just becoming a sick joke. I’m free to play already did my initial run and didn’t get the package the first time. Then they go and release the new title and the requirements after they already released the content. With being free to play I’ve always grinded the units for game changing deals like this but since I’ve already did my initial run and still don’t have the units saved up I miss out on it twice now. This is complete bs
People like myself who bought it the first time when completing 7.4 bought it without knowing about paragon, I like many others decided to buy it. Those who didn’t was aware of the resources they decided not to buy, this was a limited time offer. Now they have re released it and a paragon title is on the table and the offer has gone out again, people are complaining that some people bought it twice. Everyone has had the opportunity to buy it twice, your choice if you didn’t get it the first time. Because ppl bought it twice they should be banned? If it never came out again the gap between would still be the same, you should be thankful you had the opportunity to buy an expired limited time offer again
We grinded for the first time offer. It's not a 5 bucks deal, we re talking about $300 here. We need an extension of the extension of the offer to get this a little more fair to those who can't get 10k units in one day. My head hurts.
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Obviously I shouldn’t be seeing the offer, question is will I still get it when I do actually complete 7.4? (and have had time to save 12k units).
There used to be balance on various levels in this game, the once that I miss most is the money vs skill one. Can’t believe what it’s come down to.
I will and I think many might want to reconsider any further time and money investments in MCOC. How can the team just turn a blind eye to the influence this is going to have?
The whole reason it came back was for the group that is now getting screwed over. The whole reason it came out today instead of yesterday as previously planned, was because you said y'all wanted to make sure it only went to the correct people.
The only fair thing is everyone gets it once or everyone can get it twice, because that is consistent and the same. Having some people be allowed to buy it twice and others only once is not fair at all.
Post Spring Cleaning, people like myself who was not in a situation at the time to get the offer post 7.4 completion, I was able to whale out and buy the deals for spring cleaning. With this I had 20k units on hand. So that when this deal came out i would have enough units to buy and 10k left over. Today i bought it for the first time, I have the units to buy it again, but i am not even getting the chance to decide if i want to? I want to buy this a second time since I am now financially able to. But I can’t because its not been re-enabled for me. Where as other people are able to get this twice.
The only way to make it truly fair would be on a per account basis, check how many times they've purchased the offer, then offer them the offer however many times they haven't bought it.
I feel like the amount units on players' accounts shouldn't really be Kabam's concern(unless it's a hacker or something but that's not really the context here), considering people have purchased odins just to buy this. That's a lot of real, tangible money.
@Kabam Miike
I'll let this one pass too......
All I wanted for me is to participate and not miss the highest content i.e. EOP objectives. Even after griding the game day in day out. I wont be able to do it.
I don't care if players whaled and double dipped, it's their choice.
And increase loyalty please, we need it. Screw those deals, we wanna play the game and its game modes. But those Loyalty problem still will be existing even with those “changes” which was released today. Tell it to the game team, cause they still will have to do something with it. Save em’ some time and players their nerves.
You said it yourself, "Most players don't have 20,000 units on hand at any given time". Yet here we are, further increasing the gap between P2W and F2P.
Normally people would learn from their past mistakes. How much more are needed to be made?
No one should have been able to buy it twice though according to what information was given out originally. It was only supposed to be available to people who passed the first time. Now we have not only people buying it twice, but people who haven't even done Act 7 are getting the offer.
What a joke