**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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King Groot bug which also change his champion description to show he works as intended 'malice gives one fury' instead of original 'malice generates three fury'.. false working as intended.. nerfs.. if it is a bug, why not change him back and while your at it revert the description to what it was before the nerf.
"We'd like this champ to fit somewhere between Nick Fury and Wolverine. In testing, we think we found the sweet spot for his seemingly puny bleeds. Since he doesn't have regen, we had to come up with another method for the survivability Deadpools are known for. Enter: the Taunt. He's a long fight specialist and his periodically still kinda wimpy bleeds keep the damage at a technically higher than nothing average."
Something like that.
New players dont read novels to dissect champions. They go straight for hard hitting easy to use champions, champions OTHER people recommend and champions they have at higher rarities. Until the game forces them to learn counterplay thats all they’ll do- and why wouldn’t they? DPX is needlessly tedious to ramp for a pay off which amounts to bleeds which are less than “not anything special”. Not to mention that no; no players are using 2 stars even a week into play. This is a disingenuous claim. If it wasn’t we would’ve seen proof. Everyone knows that in its current state the game is mind bogglingly easy to progress in. They give you 3 stars in your mail just for picking up the game. These champions that they hand out indiscriminately are also the newest most complex mind you which again just destroys the narrative of “early game simplicity”. This cover is bad. This buff is bad. This response though? The worst ive seen. Any champion can do early content. Why ever buff someone if thats all you intend for them to do. The buff program was the DIRECT reaction to mid-late game players pointing out how hard these trash cans fall off in anything outside of bare bones content and also to alleviate fears of the tune downs of good champions (see torch buff around time of cull/namor nerf). This revisionist history is a bad look for anyone defending this bad “buff”
Even against this straw man though your point is bad. The ONLY thing new players look for is big yellow numbers. The quicker they can finish fights the happier they tend to be. They have simplistic views on the game which correlates to simple goals. Finish fight fast. Do damage fast. Etc. Any new player would take corvus ANY day over someone like s299 but ask endgame players who’d they rather have and the answer is far different. Ask any player who they would take DPX over and you get a forum page 7 pages long about how this character is garbage. This is, of course, a product of no counter play in early game content but they will breeze through that quickly enough (another point you didnt address being the blatant misrepresentation of how fast we acquire 3*+ champions and how progression is HARD skewed to churning out 4 stars and even 5 stars like theyre smarties on halloween)
Utility is what newbies usually fail to see value in (not that DPX has good utility in the slightest). DOT potency can also be overlooked by new players. I imagine they wouldnt be so wise as to pick up on how powerful Omega sentinel is for instance; possibly omega red too. DPX will be written off as a noodle by anyone who doesn’t put time into learning him… but wait! Anyone who does learn him will think the same too. He doesn’t have any utility to cover for it outside of a taunt but good luck digging up the newbie who thinks a taunt is somehow worthy of placement over the TORRENTS of champs who simply do everything better than him for far less work.
Through what “lens” would a player, new or not, be excited to use DPX? It can’t be DPS. It can’t be utility. The only reason someone would seriously pick him up is some fascination with the character or because they’re dragging him along to boost up their better champions (please respond with the magical lens in which this bad champion isnt bad and we can discuss that; hint: it doesnt exist. Especially not for the earl players it supposedly aims to help). Thats a terrible state for any character to be in. Much less on who was supposedly “buffed”.
New players wont use him barring literally not having any other options because their content is too easy to encourage exploration outside of the recycled dps suspects and this overly complex potato wont round out any team.
In a weird twist Experienced players are actually more likely to have him on a team but literally only because they happened to attach him to one of the characters who’s actually good and we all know who that furious one-eyed man is.
I totally agree he’s an iconic character who deserves better than he got.
I’ve seen one person say they’re happy so far with DPX, and I’m genuinely pleased for them.
I go back to what I said previously, with some minor tweaks he can be significantly better.
Please Kabam take a look at tuning him up a little on his damage. PLEASE take a look at making his stuns and taunts passive so skills have less of an advantage against him
Please make the power gain a little more accessible so you can get into a better cycle and flow
And come on, it’s Deadpool, a little regen would make all the difference to us
I love the animations, I WANT TO LOVE THE CHARACTER 🙏🏻
I provided the best evidence we can gather (since kabam releases nothing to us) with things such as precedent around the early game balancing strategy, quotes from the moderators, and the not really controversial or groundbreaking premise that new players like the good damage champions which (sorry if you haven’t left the forums since youre not even a Throne breaker) everyone who’s ever been to global chat or spoken with new players will confirm in a heart beat.
Confirmation bias? You say things without a grasp on their meaning so Ill help you just this once. A confirmation bias is when I seek out evidence having decided my conclusion. I did not spend years accumulating experience with newer players in the global chat, in new alliances, in line chats, and threads with the end goal of arguing about how simple new players are with the larger goal of getting this **** buff overhauled. I just saw a useful time to draw on the knowledge i had accumulated which, of course, helped me form a conclusion. That’s called relevance. The archetypical antithesis to a confirmation bias.
You seem to think that if I have evidence to support a claim then I must have looked for it after already forming a conclusion. However I, along with many other posters, simply play the game, note an issue that arises then present our reasons for having said issue. You on the other hand seem to operate on a premise of “kabam right” before you even start typing leaving you with airy out-of-touch responses (see this and countless threads).
Here are some questions which require no “biases” and should be easily logically deducible which I addressed but you have to ignore because your position is untenable.
1) Kabam claims to not want the DPX buff to add to the complexity of the early game. How does post buff DPX compare to pre buff in terms of complexity? Justify it.
2) What was the original purpose of the buff program? Quote your source or provide a link.
3) What is the purpose of any champion whose worth is entirely reliant on being compared to the 2 star pool?
4) If the stated goal of certain champions is “help new players in early content”, then why should pate stage players have to deal with them in the basic pool of champions
The catch is that you can’t use “its kabam’s game” or “they’re a business” which are your favorite outs. Kabam didnt state this so you cant assume thats their reason. Now go!
This is like saying that we should include the t1 basic catalyst in end game rewards because, even though the stated purpose is to help really early players along and is useless to players who progressed even minimally, everyone should have the same pool of catalysts!
I responded to the last one because you keep pushing the same narrative.
They didn't say certain Champs are MEANT for Players at earlier stages. They said they're more likely to pull them at that stage. I know it's not an easy concept, but the game doesn't revolve around one demographic.
“Sometimes we're going to update Champs to make earlier content easier for new Players. This isn't new, and something we've been doing since the very beginning of the Buff process. I'm not sure why there were such high expectations for Deadpool, but maybe we need to start addressing expectations.”
Kabam changed him for early content and new players. If you can’t read simple messages from the team don’t clog the forums with blatant lies. And no, we dont have access to the same pool of catalysts for MOST crystals. You tried to sneakily slide in the word “all” but that disingenuously ignores how almost every means of getting the early catalysts gets tuned to better catalysts as you progress. Our daily crystals, offers and every piece of content we have has better catalysts once we progress. The catalyst acquisition of the LOW catalysts DOES disappear which makes perfect sense because obviously we dont need them after progression.
Additionally people who are playing now get far more catalysts from completing/exploring the early acts and have a far easier means on getting materials than we did back in the day. Its a power creep of sorts meaning that the time where DPX could even be “relevant” is shrinking by the day. This is the entire reason that buffing champions with the early game in mind is stupid. You’ve actually backed yourself right into another point you refused to address.
Call it pushing a narrative if you like. Everyone can see the acrobatic techniques you employ to avoid valid arguments. You pick one tiny point of response then throw out terms incorrectly.
If DPX is for new players then keep him out of my pool along with t2 basic and t1iso
I’d guess there are the major overhaul OG champs that require a complete reimagination and rework of most of not all aspects. In this camp I’d put champs like Groot, Drax, Rocket, the OG Avengers (sans Thor, BW), OG Spidey, OGCM, Iron Fist. These are very familiar champs that need serious work and in some cases messing them up would generate backlash. I’m guessing the bandwidth doesn’t exist to see them repaired.
There are the reskins like SIM, BSSM, 90’s Cyke which really have little purpose in game and seem unlikely to get attention if their main characters don’t get attention either. Why update SIM if OGIM still doesn’t do anything?
Trophy champs like Kang, Thanos, Punisher, UC, the Pools are almost certainly off limits.
Still others are so basic (Rhino, with less than 100 words of description, or Electro who basically exists to deal electro-thorns) that an update would be like creating them anew. These almost fall into the category of proto-champ and also seem unlikely to get makeovers anytime soon.
Others are a little too new, although they still need help. Super-Skrull (a personal fave) comes to mind, as do Kraven and Mangog or even America. At most these sneak in a value update.
That leaves me with a much smaller pool of champs who seem likely to get updated, mainly because (1) there’s not a tremendous amount that needs to be done to make them useful and (2) the new bar for updates feels way lower than it used to feel.
I would think the following are likeliest candidates going forward—cal them the “easier to tweak champs” because they don’t need that much and their base kits aren’t overly complex:
Tech Red Skull, Iron Patriot, Green Goblin
Cosmic BB, KK, maybe Nova
Mystic Jane Thor, GR, Loki, Dorm
Science maybe WW2, IW
Skill MK, Electra, CWBP AV
Mutant NC, X23, Rogue.
I’ve probably missed a couple that fall into the “easier to tweak” category, but for sake of argument I’d estimate that number around two dozen. That seems like a doable number to tackle over the next year and get at least the majority of them updated. That would be a huge step forward.
Dr. Zola
Edit: I exclude Juggs from likely overhauls for two reasons: his kit is close to the proto-champs and his unstoppable mechanic may present issues for the update squad to negotiate. Obviously he is in desperate need of an update and I would love to see it, but I include him as a special case here.