The problem with tier lists is that it's basically impossible to have an opinion about every champ in the game, which makes it equally impossible to place every champ in their proper spot. Not proper in terms of "where they objectively should be", but rather "where I, personally, would place them if I had a deep understanding of how they could be used".
For example: I think Phoenix is trash. I don't know that since I don't have her, but nothing about her kit appeals to me. I know she has some synergies that beef her up to a workable level, but just on her own? I would always put her in the Trash category. Well, at least until I saw someone solo EOP Modok with her. No synergies, just an r3 Phoenix on her own. That player had a much deeper understanding of how she works and how she could be used for that fight. That video completely changed how I saw that champion.
I still wouldn't rank her up if I pulled her (prestige doesn't matter to me), but I grew a new appreciation for what she can do in the hands of a skilled player. On my own, I never would have known that. My placement of her in a hypothetical tier list would have been skewed based on my own biases and blind spots - when it comes to her as well as many other champions.
Similarly, I solo'd EOP Modok with Misty Knight, who you have in your Bad category. I've taken down Act 7 bosses with Sam Wilson, who is also in that category; and Joe Fixit is one of my most sought-after 6* champions because I saw what my 5* could do in one of the Carina's Challenges. He's also in the Bad category. Are you sure that you know what these champions can do? Have you played them in the situations where they shine?
But again, this isn't a "you problem". We all have our blind spots. I got schooled hard just the other day when I made a statement about Squirrel Girl (that she was one of the few Skill champions I knew of who counters auto-block). Turns out, nah, there are quite a few other champs who can do so too. I just wasn't aware because it's impossible to keep track of every champion and every ability in the game.
Which is - again - the reason why making a tier list can be a tricky thing that invites a lot of criticism. But don't be dismayed! Just try to soak in all of the feedback you get. It might open your eyes to a lot of things that you didn't know beforehand about several champions, and that's kind of a win in itself.
The champ icon style in @MaxGaming 's new tier list post is still visually inferior to the old style “just headshot” in-game icons. (Although not as visually bad as what this post here used)
(not talking about their placement, just the icons used)
Are those profile pics that are pre-populated in this Tier List Generating website/app ? Or do people have to manually add each pic themselves ? (before actually sorting them into tiers)
Making Star-Lord and Scarlet Witch in the same category as Cyclopes is a crime and lack of understanding. There are so many amazing champs in the 'above average' category that you should redo the whole thing. I.e. Scorpion, Rintrah, Symbiote Supreme, Overseer, Weapon X, Sersi and Miles.
Scarlet Witch and Star Lord rely too much on synergies. Scorpion is ok, rintrah damage good but abilities meh, sym supreme suck at attack, overseer just got autoblock and ok debuffs, weapon x is just basically revamped old man logan, sersi sucks, and miles is overrated
Fantastic in below average? I don't want to judge, but I don't think you've ever played him.. same with Psylocke, although I don't think she is as strong as Fantastic, but not really below average
How is fantastic and psylocke good. Fantastic is only have unblockable, and psylocke is just trash
tier list based on what? there are lot of things I don't like about this list but what I hate the most is the BAD tier. Ronan, Luke Cage, OG BW, Hulk Ragnarock bad? They are not used commonly maybe but calling them bad is just stupid.
Ronan only has good stun. Luke Cage only useful when awakened. Black Widow only has evade, and Hulk Ragnarok only has crowd excitement
Making Star-Lord and Scarlet Witch in the same category as Cyclopes is a crime and lack of understanding. There are so many amazing champs in the 'above average' category that you should redo the whole thing. I.e. Scorpion, Rintrah, Symbiote Supreme, Overseer, Weapon X, Sersi and Miles.
Scarlet Witch and Star Lord rely too much on synergies. Scorpion is ok, rintrah damage good but abilities meh, sym supreme suck at attack, overseer just got autoblock and ok debuffs, weapon x is just basically revamped old man logan, sersi sucks, and miles is overrated
🤨 Karnak has very good abilities, what are you on about? Hawkeye has been the underdog since his release, he has incredible power control and good synergies.
Star Lord and SW work perfectly fine without synergies, you either need skill to keep combo, or get lucky with her RNG. She's the RNG Queen since the start. Overseer packs a very heavy attack power if played right. Sym Is amazing on attack if enemy has buffs. Weapon X is great offensive and defensive, although everyone just slaps him on defense. Scorpion is one of the best science champs in the game. Miles has his niche uses, champs like that aren't overrated
Starlord and scarlett witch in the worst category? Colossus, blade, silver surfer and thing in god tier? Ikaris demigod?
Star Lord is overrated nowadays, Scarlet Witch only has good synergy. Colossus damage average, only armor good. Blade bleed is OP. Silver surfer sp2 is great, and thing's unstoppable makes him good on defense
maybe you feel he is overrated because you cant hold a combo?
The problem with tier lists is that it's basically impossible to have an opinion about every champ in the game, which makes it equally impossible to place every champ in their proper spot. Not proper in terms of "where they objectively should be", but rather "where I, personally, would place them if I had a deep understanding of how they could be used".
For example: I think Phoenix is trash. I don't know that since I don't have her, but nothing about her kit appeals to me. I know she has some synergies that beef her up to a workable level, but just on her own? I would always put her in the Trash category. Well, at least until I saw someone solo EOP Modok with her. No synergies, just an r3 Phoenix on her own. That player had a much deeper understanding of how she works and how she could be used for that fight. That video completely changed how I saw that champion.
I still wouldn't rank her up if I pulled her (prestige doesn't matter to me), but I grew a new appreciation for what she can do in the hands of a skilled player. On my own, I never would have known that. My placement of her in a hypothetical tier list would have been skewed based on my own biases and blind spots - when it comes to her as well as many other champions.
Similarly, I solo'd EOP Modok with Misty Knight, who you have in your Bad category. I've taken down Act 7 bosses with Sam Wilson, who is also in that category; and Joe Fixit is one of my most sought-after 6* champions because I saw what my 5* could do in one of the Carina's Challenges. He's also in the Bad category. Are you sure that you know what these champions can do? Have you played them in the situations where they shine?
But again, this isn't a "you problem". We all have our blind spots. I got schooled hard just the other day when I made a statement about Squirrel Girl (that she was one of the few Skill champions I knew of who counters auto-block). Turns out, nah, there are quite a few other champs who can do so too. I just wasn't aware because it's impossible to keep track of every champion and every ability in the game.
Which is - again - the reason why making a tier list can be a tricky thing that invites a lot of criticism. But don't be dismayed! Just try to soak in all of the feedback you get. It might open your eyes to a lot of things that you didn't know beforehand about several champions, and that's kind of a win in itself.
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For example: I think Phoenix is trash. I don't know that since I don't have her, but nothing about her kit appeals to me. I know she has some synergies that beef her up to a workable level, but just on her own? I would always put her in the Trash category. Well, at least until I saw someone solo EOP Modok with her. No synergies, just an r3 Phoenix on her own. That player had a much deeper understanding of how she works and how she could be used for that fight. That video completely changed how I saw that champion.
I still wouldn't rank her up if I pulled her (prestige doesn't matter to me), but I grew a new appreciation for what she can do in the hands of a skilled player. On my own, I never would have known that. My placement of her in a hypothetical tier list would have been skewed based on my own biases and blind spots - when it comes to her as well as many other champions.
Similarly, I solo'd EOP Modok with Misty Knight, who you have in your Bad category. I've taken down Act 7 bosses with Sam Wilson, who is also in that category; and Joe Fixit is one of my most sought-after 6* champions because I saw what my 5* could do in one of the Carina's Challenges. He's also in the Bad category. Are you sure that you know what these champions can do? Have you played them in the situations where they shine?
But again, this isn't a "you problem". We all have our blind spots. I got schooled hard just the other day when I made a statement about Squirrel Girl (that she was one of the few Skill champions I knew of who counters auto-block). Turns out, nah, there are quite a few other champs who can do so too. I just wasn't aware because it's impossible to keep track of every champion and every ability in the game.
Which is - again - the reason why making a tier list can be a tricky thing that invites a lot of criticism. But don't be dismayed! Just try to soak in all of the feedback you get. It might open your eyes to a lot of things that you didn't know beforehand about several champions, and that's kind of a win in itself.
(not talking about their placement, just the icons used)
Are those profile pics that are pre-populated in this Tier List Generating website/app ? Or do people have to manually add each pic themselves ? (before actually sorting them into tiers)
I honestly Like the damage he deals its nice also
where the hell is magik
Hawkeye has been the underdog since his release, he has incredible power control and good synergies.
Star Lord and SW work perfectly fine without synergies, you either need skill to keep combo, or get lucky with her RNG. She's the RNG Queen since the start.
Overseer packs a very heavy attack power if played right.
Sym Is amazing on attack if enemy has buffs.
Weapon X is great offensive and defensive, although everyone just slaps him on defense.
Scorpion is one of the best science champs in the game.
Miles has his niche uses, champs like that aren't overrated