**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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Howver saying we have to wait 5-6 months for all those exciting level 1 potions available in the apothecary to be improved/put in the bin is annoying.
i just want to say that yes i can understand as a company they also want to earn money but on the other hand im still angry on the part where i still see lots of modders modding in BGs, and even seeing them blatantly bragging in global chat. I believe if Kabam manages to sort this modding problem out then im sure that community would be much more happier and might overlook this revive issue as well.
Keeping the link to old thread in this one.
Agree or disagree with their decision here. it doesn't matter (I think it's a massive step-up from what they announced previously but still needs some work to get us a little more in line with where they were before), but they're not doing anything shady here, it's all there for you to read. You're making points that they already commented on.
Second: adding L2 revives is nice, upping the inventory is nice. That said L2 revives should have always been there. And the inventory should have been updated to this level years ago. Why wasn't the overflow timer set to 30 days like most other items? There's no reason any of the items in game should have different timers, it's gacha bait.
It's already been said and will probably be said by others again, but it's hypocritical to say they are removing THIS farm because of RNG and giving us a really **** 10% replacement with far worse and more egregious RNG. It's also worth pointing out there are several other fair farming spots in the game. That we were using for years before the restructuring of the early acts. The only thing act 3 got us was the ability to do it consistently and somewhat reliably. Instead of wasting 20 minutes getting frustrated at the game to find a revive we could just try a few in act 3 and probably find one. Nothing really changed there except the lessening of frustration and time it takes to farm revives.
You also fail to address how the content you have designed mandates excessive revive use. Defeating Labyrinth of Legends with a 4 star Star-Lord is impossible without a ton of revives. Maestro gains random buffs when fighting tech champions. The second that Regeneration buff comes up, you have to quit the fight immediately because you will NEVER put damage it. If you really want to change the revive situation, then you need to honestly review and reassess the end game content you have made.
Why aren’t you sharing the content intent and expectations? Yes, some people will see it as a challenge but others will use it as a measuring stick to determine when they are ready to attempt it.
Last thought, I’m just really disappointed that you threaten to stop making content if you don’t get to make the changes you want. There are other ways to achieve the reasonable points you have. Why don’t you tie the rewards to it? You get maximum rewards if you use less than 50 revives? Threatening the community with “Act 8 might be the end without this change” is low and insulting.
Did some rough math for carina challenges based off of Brian grant who I think is a good above average player but not elite like msd or swedeah
So not counting health potions it seemed approximately 3-4 odins to complete all objectives
So basically about $500 to complete EACH one
No problem for whales going forward.
F2P on other hand will probably just not do any of those types of content until eventually they have a good enough roster of rank 4/5’s to realistically tackle it…
in which case the rewards will be so outdated that it is a waste of time and resources anyways.
Is that the goal of the change?
Potions should have been percent based for a long time, and no new technology or whatever a few lines of code is called these days is needed to do it.
1. The level 2 revives for endgame players in the 22hr solo event is a welcome change.
2. The inventory increase is good but could be slighly more generous? I'd say the sigil limit for normal players would be nice.
The bad:
1. The threat of saying act 8 would be the last if change wasn't implemented. Really? Most players would say story act content is fairly balanced and paths can be done itemless with proper planning, the only aspect of reviving would be the boss fights which upon several runs can be improved upon with reduced item usage. It's pathetic to even list this as a reason to implement the change.
2. No changes to certain content forcing revive use. The labyrinth and abyss mechanics of forcing revive use still remains, the 4 star carina challenges still will require an unrealistic amount of item use. There's 0 mention on the team looking into making changes to these content.
The mention in the update about people not chasing new champs because old ones do fine.
I think it’s unfair to blame that entirely on people revive farming.
Part of that is a problem (or perhaps not from Kabam pov) that arises from champ acquisition.
I’ll use next months champs as an example.
Sandman and shocker. The only question I’ll be asking myself next month is “what’s the easiest counter to these two” I will not be looking into their offensive capabilities at all until at the very earliest, they enter the 6* featured pool (45 days from now), and even then I’m typically looking up champs that dropped 6+ months ago if/when I get them.
I don’t specifically target any champ because more often than not, by the time there’s a reasonable chance to get them for myself (ie not through arena or cav crystals), there’s no hype left for them,
I’ve probably got my point across incredibly poorly, but tldr, people haven’t stopped chasing new champs because of solely revive farming, they’ve stopped because most aren’t getting them until they’re in the featured or basic champ pool (at the moment these are pretty close to each other in timing).
1. Is the Everest content no matter how aspirational simply overtuned? Now that farming is being neutered then will there be a change in the design of these?
2. Why will it takes 5-6 months to engineer what I hope being implied was percentage health pots?
3. Will the increase in storage limit of revives be significant help players where the expiry timer on them remains the same? I've always wondered why the timer on items like revives and pots were so much shorter than say ISO or catalysts
It remains to be seen how good of a compromise these changes to the Apothecary & Inventory will be, until the next EOP/Black Hole/Vortex/Abyss.
At the end of the day the question is how much engagement Kabam wants to keep the game running and where do they want it (ie game modes)? If these changes force players to revert to the days of " The Blackhole of Legends only cost me X, 000 units" then It might not matter how much Everest or story content is made if not enough people attempt it due to that cost.
Part of the reason for the state of Act 7 and 8.1 so far was to not gate any story content behind Everest design. As long as that continues then I personally am fine ignoring Everest content than requires months of arena or hundreds of revives.
Under the new proposed system, a player without the Sigil would be able to accumulate 20 level 1 revives and 20 level 2 revives in non-expiring inventory alone. They would also be able to farm 14 level 1 revives from the Apothecary (since it would now be open seven days a week), and in theory up to 14 additional level 2 revives from 22 hr solo events. That's between 54 and 68 revives, depending on how many 22 hour events you could grab the revives from. The revive shows up in milestone 3 of the 22hr solo event, so that's not particularly hard to get.
Your own suggestion implied a 75 to 95 revive stockpile achievable. The modifications announced allow for 68 revives, half of which would be L2 revives. That's actually pretty close in value, and arguably better value than the low end of your own range.
You mentioned that units are the key to revives and with that, players need to be engaged to play these game modes that offer units. I appreciate that, back in the day of LOL and act 6 that was how I personally completed those quests. Save up as many revives from objectives and 4hour crystals as well as units from arena. However, now a days unit grinding is JUST as tedious and boring as revive farming. Their is no excitement to arena grinding. I get stoned and turn on Netflix, only to play arena begrudgingly. We need an exciting new way to get units for our time. ADD UNITS TO CAV AND THRONEBREAKER EQ, increase unit returns from arena. Add units to alliance events…. I understand it takes time. But if you want the community to take interest in your improvements, they have to be made in reasonable time and with the benefit of the summoner being apparent.
Hahaha. Sorry, that seemed funny to me.