The AI doesn't let you. The second you let your guard down, you get whiffed and K.O.'d. Either that or the Regen takes away all your progress. Some people have beaten it. That's great. I've run myself into the ground trying. For one Fight. One. It's ruined every damn thing for me and I'm not that incapable. I'm not the best Player but I'm not the worst. I don't know what the gauge was for content like this but I'm not willing to be a part of it if it's the standard now. It's not right and I'm not going to keep scrambling for crumbs out of this Event.
I agree 100%. Not only not fun, but the AI knows to keep away during his regen. This fight was built to drain resources. Another Kabam special. Burnout is real, Kabam, keep that in mind.
I'm just tired of trying. I wasted Energy Refills. I wasted all my Rev stores. I wasted my Units. I tried Shulk, and QS, and Doom, and Hulk, Overseer, Warlock, Viv, the list goes on and on. You make minimal progress, and you get one-shot. Don't worry, you can Revive into a bottomless pit of Regen. I'm not saying they designed it to drain us. I will say whatever they thought was acceptable for this is way out of reality, and I'm quite upset it was left after countless people expressed it's too much.
I'm pretty sure you have since you're on the forums, but have you tried Cat Murdock's method with Hulk? It seems to be an easier method with Hulk that I hadn't of thought of and wished I had, but does require revives.
Revives, lots of health potions (you take lots of block damage), and compliant AI to not throw specials inexplicably into your block time after time. If you are cool with quitting out over and over - even when you do everything right but abs man still throws his specials… have at it. I don’t have that level of commitment
That‘s the exact reason why I used a slightly different method… You can start the stun chain before the opponent can throw a single special, and the block damage is limited to 2-3 parries…
I don’t have the energy right now to show you an Abs Man fight, but against WS an R2 Hulk took down over 300k health in a single stun chain that way. Mind you, this is without boosts or suicides, also with full health and with class disadvantage…
Yes, against AbsMan you have to work around the unstoppable, but if you throw the sp1 right before the stun from the previous sp1 ends, even AbsMan’s unstoppable doesn’t bother you… I was able to do it in 7-8 revives, no potions… (20% revive is plenty and also maximizes your damage output!)
This single event has taken the whole game's joy out of it for me. I was having fun lately until this fight and the ramification of not beating him and losing the KG piece.
This right here! This has caused a lot of anger, frustration, and a sudden lack of joy or of motivation to play in general. Which sucks
I'm pretty sure you have since you're on the forums, but have you tried Cat Murdock's method with Hulk? It seems to be an easier method with Hulk that I hadn't of thought of and wished I had, but does require revives.
Revives, lots of health potions (you take lots of block damage), and compliant AI to not throw specials inexplicably into your block time after time. If you are cool with quitting out over and over - even when you do everything right but abs man still throws his specials… have at it. I don’t have that level of commitment
That‘s the exact reason why I used a slightly different method… You can start the stun chain before the opponent can throw a single special, and the block damage is limited to 2-3 parries…
I don’t have the energy right now to show you an Abs Man fight, but against WS an R2 Hulk took down over 300k health in a single stun chain that way. Mind you, this is without boosts or suicides, also with full health and with class disadvantage…
Yes, against AbsMan you have to work around the unstoppable, but if you throw the sp1 right before the stun from the previous sp1 ends, even AbsMan’s unstoppable doesn’t bother you… I was able to do it in 7-8 revives, no potions… (20% revive is plenty and also maximizes your damage output!)
This single event has taken the whole game's joy out of it for me. I was having fun lately until this fight and the ramification of not beating him and losing the KG piece.
This right here! This has caused a lot of anger, frustration, and a sudden lack of joy or of motivation to play in general. Which sucks
Yup! Played the game fairly regularly for 9 years. This event has really hammered home that I can't hang and makes me question do I even want to try anymore.
The AI doesn't let you. The second you let your guard down, you get whiffed and K.O.'d. Either that or the Regen takes away all your progress. Some people have beaten it. That's great. I've run myself into the ground trying. For one Fight. One. It's ruined every damn thing for me and I'm not that incapable. I'm not the best Player but I'm not the worst. I don't know what the gauge was for content like this but I'm not willing to be a part of it if it's the standard now. It's not right and I'm not going to keep scrambling for crumbs out of this Event.
It’s just this first fight. If it doesn’t work out, let it go and see what the next fight looks like.
On the points you made, I agree—it’s super annoying and I don’t find it a well-conceived fight at all. Adding to that, I had strikers whiffing, got shallow evaded at the worst moment and had frames stuttering at run-in. Also not fun.
Don’t let this one fight ruin what is otherwise a fun aside for you. Life’s too short.
They messed with the AI to make it more ridiculous. Yeah I'm saying it. I know how to fight Abs Man and he is far more likely to throw specials into block in this mode.
I'm pretty sure you have since you're on the forums, but have you tried Cat Murdock's method with Hulk? It seems to be an easier method with Hulk that I hadn't of thought of and wished I had, but does require revives.
She-Hulk is the best gamma option in my opinion. She counters the unstoppable and L2 stops the regen. Give her a try
I own a R2 6-Star She Hulk. I personally don’t like being put in the position that I have to rank up a champ I would normally not bother wanting to rank up
@Bulmkt i agree with what u say and i am in the same boat. If u just want to just complete then try doom, he has high block prof and doom cycle seems easy to acheive. There are videos of it by MSD and UKM in YT.
I have not completed it yet because I was trying put diff champs and I think i will finally settle with doom and use the 7 tries.
I tried with Doom and it’s getting to his full power and avoiding that one hit from Abs-man that makes it hard still.
Sounds like greed. You can absolutely safely stunlock him with Hulk before he heals, and chip out a consistent 10% per revive at a minimum with no risk of lost progress.
750 Units trying the Aegon method and not getting past 180 Combo and 80% down, that just Regens back. This Fight is gross. Nevermind the Dealthless Piece, I'm almost ready to stop playing. If this is the direction the game is heading for content, it's not worth playing for me. When you suck all the enjoyment out of it, there's nothing left to play for.
Exactly mate. There is nothing enjoyable about WoW juiced up Abs-man
I’m an Adult MCOC player of 8 years and at every significant spending event such as 4 JUL and Cyber week I often spend around AUD$500 on the various cash deals on offer during these special events. So in 8yrs of playing I have spent north of AUD$8,000 on this mobile game.
I’m Valiant progression and have completed (not fully explored) most of the MCOC game content. I consider myself a better than average player (I acknowledge I’m not a Top Gun Player but cut me some slack as I’m 51 years old!)
But I can’t for the life of me beat this juiced up Abs-Man in EOP 2.0 WoW. I managed to get Abs-Man to 12% HP with my duped R2 7-Star Hulk OG when I got KO’d. I thought I’d just revive and take out the final 12%. To my complete dismay all I did was watch in total despair as Abs-man regenerated his health in quick succession all the way back to 70%. That’s soul destroying to see. It’s also annoying and you just don’t want to participate with content designed like this.
WoW just isn’t enjoyable game content IMO. We’re now asked to try and play near impossible buffed opponents who seem to have a sole purpose to make us players use a lot of items or worse, drain our saved Units to buy more items or doubly worse to make us spend money to buy more Units to be used on buying more revives and HP potions.
If the future direction of MCOC is impossible content like WoW Abs-Man then I think I have reached the point where I don’t have the skill to continue. So rather than rage quit the game, because I have invested a lot of my time and money playing, I’ll just become another of the ever growing list of F2P players and just take it easy and save my money.
I'll just collect my free daily Valiant crystal and just participant in content that is fun to play (BG's, Season AW & monthly EQ) and await the day when the penny drops by the other remaining spenders that’s not worth contributing anymore to a mobile game that through design has slowly killed off the enjoyment this game once held.
Old Man Bulmkt
Lemme give you a little tip to do this with hulk Attempt one-do as more damage as possible And then revive and not let him throw his special and if he throw, immediately heavy him and throw sp1 in that stun and give as more damage as possible
You might do it in 2-3 revives Trust me it's the safest way to do it
I did the same with 5 revives, 6* r4 hulk
I’ll try this out. If it works I’ll report back on this thread. If I don’t report back you’ll know it didn’t work
750 Units trying the Aegon method and not getting past 180 Combo and 80% down, that just Regens back. This Fight is gross. Nevermind the Dealthless Piece, I'm almost ready to stop playing. If this is the direction the game is heading for content, it's not worth playing for me. When you suck all the enjoyment out of it, there's nothing left to play for.
As someone that spent 10+ revives trying to do the fight with Overseer, ranked up She-hulk and used up plenty of energy refills to no avail, I’d advise you to put the drama away and get it done with the Hulk stun lock method suggested by Cat. You’ll feel a lot better after.
Like I said. I tried exactly that approach and got wrecked with his insane regen. I had Abs down to 12% HP. I got KO’d so I revived and before I knew it (Tks to the AI) and’s had thrown his SP and was regenerating like crazy - all the way back to 70% HP.
Yes I know some players have beaten abs-man this way but the AI was on their side.
This single event has taken the whole game's joy out of it for me. I was having fun lately until this fight and the ramification of not beating him and losing the KG piece.
This right here! This has caused a lot of anger, frustration, and a sudden lack of joy or of motivation to play in general. Which sucks
The motivation to play in general is killed by the fact that many people have spent so many resources to take this fight out, majorly hitting their accounts, instead of progressing. And the most annoying part, that many of these players, despite emptying their revives/potions/units stash still haven’t managed to get a single point in the event. I spent 19 revives for doing all the objectives to get the 4 points, and it doesn’t even feel as an accomplishment. The fight was straight forward an item sink, with the disguise of “end game” content. I don’t have any intention to repeat this revive sink process every couple of weeks. It’s not challenging and it’s not fun, it’s plain BS. I know players that spent over 100 revives and emptied their units on trying to complete the objectives, and got pissed over the fight and ultimately the game. I fully understand them, I would have quit for good if I was them. Kabam could change the fight and they didn’t, claiming they wouldn’t be able to adjust Abs Man regen. Why not removing it instead, since it’s arguably too much? They could have made use of one of the heal block nodes already exist in the game 🤷♂️ They missed the mark completely with this fight, and they haven’t yet bothered to correct things, even that lately 🙁
Sounds like greed. You can absolutely safely stunlock him with Hulk before he heals, and chip out a consistent 10% per revive at a minimum with no risk of lost progress.
BS. as I said in my original post. I was doing this and with one SP which I had no way of preventing Abs-man regenerated as an amazing rate. All my work getting him down to 12%HP was wasted
This single event has taken the whole game's joy out of it for me. I was having fun lately until this fight and the ramification of not beating him and losing the KG piece.
This right here! This has caused a lot of anger, frustration, and a sudden lack of joy or of motivation to play in general. Which sucks
The motivation to play in general is killed by the fact that many people have spent so many resources to take this fight out, majorly hitting their accounts, instead of progressing. And the most annoying part, that many of these players, despite emptying their revives/potions/units stash still haven’t managed to get a single point in the event. I spent 19 revives for doing all the objectives to get the 4 points, and it doesn’t even feel as an accomplishment. The fight was straight forward an item sink, with the disguise of “end game” content. I don’t have any intention to repeat this revive sink process every couple of weeks. It’s not challenging and it’s not fun, it’s plain BS. I know players that spent over 100 revives and emptied their units on trying to complete the objectives, and got pissed over the fight and ultimately the game. I fully understand them, I would have quit for good if I was them. Kabam could change the fight and they didn’t, claiming they wouldn’t be able to adjust Abs Man regen. Why not removing it instead, since it’s arguably too much? They could have made use of one of the heal block nodes already exist in the game 🤷♂️ They missed the mark completely with this fight, and they haven’t yet bothered to correct things, even that lately 🙁
You can try to unit through it but even using sand-man. The fight is just terrible. I’m sure they will “tone down” the regen for the gauntlet but that fight currently is just garbage
While I agree to most of it,I did the objectives with 6r3 hulk and iam valiant recently,and one of my ally mates did with 5r5, But it took me over 6-7 energy refills One thing I understood was it's better to restart than revive through the fight Because the furies you build up are stronger in a long fight and only then you had the best place to complete the fight
The AI doesn't let you. The second you let your guard down, you get whiffed and K.O.'d. Either that or the Regen takes away all your progress. Some people have beaten it. That's great. I've run myself into the ground trying. For one Fight. One. It's ruined every damn thing for me and I'm not that incapable. I'm not the best Player but I'm not the worst. I don't know what the gauge was for content like this but I'm not willing to be a part of it if it's the standard now. It's not right and I'm not going to keep scrambling for crumbs out of this Event.
With Hulk, you just play normal on your first fight (build SP3, build rage, throw SP3, build SP1, Stunlock, preferably end rage with SP2) until you get a decent run and chip out like 40+% health. Then every run after, push abs to just under 1 bar of power, then full combo, hold block, repeat until you have like a bar and a half power, heavy, SP1, Stunlock.
Sounds like greed. You can absolutely safely stunlock him with Hulk before he heals, and chip out a consistent 10% per revive at a minimum with no risk of lost progress.
BS. as I said in my original post. I was doing this and with one SP which I had no way of preventing Abs-man regenerated as an amazing rate. All my work getting him down to 12%HP was wasted
Then quit out on the very rare occasion he does throw an SP1 unprompted into your block, not that a 7R2 Hulk can't outdamage the 6% or so he gets if you immediately switch it off by punishing with a heavy. If you missed the punish and didn't immediately quit out, then we're back to greed.
750 Units trying the Aegon method and not getting past 180 Combo and 80% down, that just Regens back. This Fight is gross. Nevermind the Dealthless Piece, I'm almost ready to stop playing. If this is the direction the game is heading for content, it's not worth playing for me. When you suck all the enjoyment out of it, there's nothing left to play for.
As someone that spent 10+ revives trying to do the fight with Overseer, ranked up She-hulk and used up plenty of energy refills to no avail, I’d advise you to put the drama away and get it done with the Hulk stun lock method suggested by Cat. You’ll feel a lot better after.
Like I said. I tried exactly that approach and got wrecked with his insane regen. I had Abs down to 12% HP. I got KO’d so I revived and before I knew it (Tks to the AI) and’s had thrown his SP and was regenerating like crazy - all the way back to 70% HP.
Yes I know some players have beaten abs-man this way but the AI was on their side.
Try being more passive Use anti-baiting
I did it in 2 revs with my r1 following Cat's method
Listen I appreciate the suggestions, but I've done wasted all my patience and Resources trying. I get that it makes sense what you're suggesting. I've tried all the tips I've read on here. That Fight doesn't let me progress past 82%. It's altogether a garbage Fight, and if I have any hope of continuing to play this game then I need to stop trying. I'm sure my reputation precedes me, but there are the odd times something doesn't bode well with me. This Fight is one of them. I respect the team still, but I unequivocally disagree with keeping the Fight in the game as it is. Not even on principle at this point. Based on beating my head against a wall, using all but 180 of my Units, all my Revs from the 500 Unit deal a while back, all my Energy Refills but two plus Energy that refills on its own, and my last damn nerve. This isn't challenging in an engaging manner. It's just wrong.
I agree with this post wholeheartedly. I don’t mind not being able to get a solo. I do mind that if I can’t get a solo and need to use resources, even a significant amount to unit man through. With the exception of the Hulk tactic I can’t see a method to clear the other objectives without a solo as Abs Man will regen back at a stupid rate. I get into a good rhythm with Sandman, I dash back to avoid an attack and boom 1 hit connects, 2nd hit connects and I’m dead. From 95% to 0% off of 2 hits. I’d revive up and continue if I didn’t off the first time he goes into revive mode he’d undo all my hard work.
I’ve got 2 points from this event, from clearing with Hulk, will get a 3rd from the “free point” we’ll be given. But at week 1 I’m stone walled from reaching the peak milestone of the reward. Now maybe I’m just not good enough. I accept I’m decent Valiant player, not world class but decent enough. This content is just demoralising.
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I don’t have the energy right now to show you an Abs Man fight, but against WS an R2 Hulk took down over 300k health in a single stun chain that way. Mind you, this is without boosts or suicides, also with full health and with class disadvantage…
Here the video: https://streamable.com/uw28p1
Yes, against AbsMan you have to work around the unstoppable, but if you throw the sp1 right before the stun from the previous sp1 ends, even AbsMan’s unstoppable doesn’t bother you… I was able to do it in 7-8 revives, no potions… (20% revive is plenty and also maximizes your damage output!)
On the points you made, I agree—it’s super annoying and I don’t find it a well-conceived fight at all. Adding to that, I had strikers whiffing, got shallow evaded at the worst moment and had frames stuttering at run-in. Also not fun.
Don’t let this one fight ruin what is otherwise a fun aside for you. Life’s too short.
Dr. Zola
They messed with the AI to make it more ridiculous. Yeah I'm saying it. I know how to fight Abs Man and he is far more likely to throw specials into block in this mode.
They did it on purpose.
I revived and literally within 15secs Abs-man just when on a massive regeneration and was back to 70% HP.
That’s soul destroying
Yes I know some players have beaten abs-man this way but the AI was on their side.
And the most annoying part, that many of these players, despite emptying their revives/potions/units stash still haven’t managed to get a single point in the event.
I spent 19 revives for doing all the objectives to get the 4 points, and it doesn’t even feel as an accomplishment.
The fight was straight forward an item sink, with the disguise of “end game” content.
I don’t have any intention to repeat this revive sink process every couple of weeks.
It’s not challenging and it’s not fun, it’s plain BS.
I know players that spent over 100 revives and emptied their units on trying to complete the objectives, and got pissed over the fight and ultimately the game.
I fully understand them, I would have quit for good if I was them.
Kabam could change the fight and they didn’t, claiming they wouldn’t be able to adjust Abs Man regen.
Why not removing it instead, since it’s arguably too much?
They could have made use of one of the heal block nodes already exist in the game 🤷♂️
They missed the mark completely with this fight, and they haven’t yet bothered to correct things, even that lately 🙁
But it took me over 6-7 energy refills
One thing I understood was it's better to restart than revive through the fight
Because the furies you build up are stronger in a long fight and only then you had the best place to complete the fight
First fight example: https://youtu.be/UFgIHdKifZA
Subsequent fight example: https://youtu.be/DKl0otBF65Y
Obviously an ascended 5* will be doing less than my 7R2, but you should still be able to get it done safe and easy for 6-10 revives if you boost.
You can get it done if you follow it
Use anti-baiting
I did it in 2 revs with my r1 following Cat's method
I’ve got 2 points from this event, from clearing with Hulk, will get a 3rd from the “free point” we’ll be given. But at week 1 I’m stone walled from reaching the peak milestone of the reward. Now maybe I’m just not good enough. I accept I’m decent Valiant player, not world class but decent enough. This content is just demoralising.