If of I have 9 pages of feedback o would like to give my feedback. Why do you threaten me for that
You need to go touch grass pal, sending +65 messages in a row with no response is weird, borderline stalking 💀
There is nothing to stalk there. It's easy to comment and not look at the facts. What will you do if kabam bans you for no reason and won't tell you why?
Remember I go to the length of creating tickets to report illegitimate players every time I see one
You deserve to get banned for even threatening someone with suing them lmao take your L and move on.
If of I have 9 pages of feedback o would like to give my feedback. Why do you threaten me for that
You need to go touch grass pal, sending +65 messages in a row with no response is weird, borderline stalking 💀
There is nothing to stalk there. It's easy to comment and not look at the facts. What will you do if kabam bans you for no reason and won't tell you why?
Remember I go to the length of creating tickets to report illegitimate players every time I see one
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
You were threatening kabam with suing over something dumb and got the response you deserved. Take the L and move on bud.
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
Oh ok I am sorry. Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
Oh ok I am sorry. Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
The discussion was about banning players from game accidentally. That's something can be reported as fraud in my country if there is no claim/ proof. I was stating that in a post created by someone who got banned.
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
Oh ok I am sorry. Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
The discussion was about banning players from game accidentally. That's something can be reported as fraud in my country if there is no claim/ proof. I was stating that in a post created by someone who got banned. The mod gave me time out for stating this
Ok let me explain something to you so you stop your legal mumbo jumbo. They do have the proof, they choose not to give it the player; but lets say the player decides to sue (lol)... Chances are they will take the proof to court, laugh at the person and counter sue for legal fees...
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
Oh ok I am sorry. Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
The discussion was about banning players from game accidentally. That's something can be reported as fraud in my country if there is no claim/ proof. I was stating that in a post created by someone who got banned. The mod gave me time out for stating this
Ok let me explain something to you so you stop your legal mumbo jumbo. They do have the proof, they choose not to give it the player; but lets say the player decides to sue (lol)... Chances are they will take the proof to court, laugh at the person and counter sue for legal fees...
This is assuming that any self-respecting lawyer would bother even taking a case to court that they know their client can't win. I doubt they'll get a lawyer past their consultation session.
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
Oh ok I am sorry. Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
The discussion was about banning players from game accidentally. That's something can be reported as fraud in my country if there is no claim/ proof. I was stating that in a post created by someone who got banned.
What country are you in?
Can't say that's personal but kabam will know that basd on my game play and payment. In most countries if you don't get services for what you paid for you can sue the corporate and if there is any fraudulent behaviour you suspect the app itself may be black listed until proved otherwise. Fraudulent behaviour can just be a feeling of yours to do the reporting and police will verify the claim how far it is true.
I think it's because there is no country that exists that would even look at this as anything less than frivolous.
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
Oh ok I am sorry. Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
The discussion was about banning players from game accidentally. That's something can be reported as fraud in my country if there is no claim/ proof. I was stating that in a post created by someone who got banned. The mod gave me time out for stating this
Ok let me explain something to you so you stop your legal mumbo jumbo. They do have the proof, they choose not to give it the player; but lets say the player decides to sue (lol)... Chances are they will take the proof to court, laugh at the person and counter sue for legal fees...
This is assuming that any self-respecting lawyer would bother even taking a case to court that they know their client can't win. I doubt they'll get a lawyer past their consultation session.
Hey I watched Better Call Saul, I know lawyers lol
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
Oh ok I am sorry. Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
The discussion was about banning players from game accidentally. That's something can be reported as fraud in my country if there is no claim/ proof. I was stating that in a post created by someone who got banned. The mod gave me time out for stating this
Ok let me explain something to you so you stop your legal mumbo jumbo. They do have the proof, they choose not to give it the player; but lets say the player decides to sue (lol)... Chances are they will take the proof to court, laugh at the person and counter sue for legal fees...
This is assuming that any self-respecting lawyer would bother even taking a case to court that they know their client can't win. I doubt they'll get a lawyer past their consultation session.
Hey I watched Better Call Saul, I know lawyers lol
It's not uncommon. Counter that get huge taxes has responsibilities to appoint a legal attorney if you don't have funds.
And will add them here if needed. I would like a response from Kabam why they don't take criticism and harass players
You keep saying "I just wanted to give feedback", however you've sent an astonishing 65+ messages to modmail within a few minutes berating the (volunteer, non-kabam employed) mods to explain why you were timed out.
Feedback is just that - feedback. It's a 1 way conversation where you give your feedback, and it's acknowledged and you move on. Your feedback was in fact politely acknowledged but you sure didn't move on.
Instead you proceeded to send 60+ messages spanning everything from gdpr compliance to accusations kabam is banning people because they're on iOS to saying mods can't handle feedback even though your feedback was acknowledged. None of it makes sense. It really seems like you're just baiting an argument out of boredom.
When you were reporting another player trying to sell services, it was mentioned to you that it's appreciated, however you took that convo with that player to a whole new level that it didn't need to go. Not to mention there was a bit of "moderator impersonation" but we'll forget that happen. And no, this isn't a threat (cause you love throwing that one out there), it's just a statement of observation.
Either way, you took it upon yourself to escalate the situation, and were asked to stop engaging with them, and let kabam handle it.
You didn't though, and when timed out, you asked why and it was explained to you in the 1st response from the mod. You didn't like that so you continued on with another 62 messages accusing mods of not taking feedback well... What feedback?
You also threatened legal action and gdpr mishandling, which if you think that's the case, discord has a form you can fill out. You were told that but said that's incorrect. Mind sharing what gdpr policy is being violated? I'd love to know.
At this point it was just going in circles, and you were sending way too many messages in rapid succession for any volunteer moderator to want to keep up with (remember there's other users to tend to), that it got to a point where understanding what your true end game was other than either boredom, or just wanting someone to talk to...?
Either way, wishing you all the best.
No it was not responded to me. Again 65 or 100 messages. Why are you threatening me for providing feedback
How went in circles explain?
This is such a funny question to ask after saying the same exact things for the past 4 pages of comments
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
Oh ok I am sorry. Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
The discussion was about banning players from game accidentally. That's something can be reported as fraud in my country if there is no claim/ proof. I was stating that in a post created by someone who got banned.
What country are you in?
Can't say that's personal but kabam will know that basd on my game play and payment. In most countries if you don't get services for what you paid for you can sue the corporate and if there is any fraudulent behaviour you suspect the app itself may be black listed until proved otherwise. Fraudulent behaviour can just be a feeling of yours to do the reporting and police will verify the claim how far it is true.
There’s only one country that has ever ruled in favor of a player claiming to have been defrauded by an online game company for failing to provide services in the context of being banned that very heard of, and that’s China, and there were very particular circumstances there.
There is no charge for accessing the game, so you can’t claim damages if you’re banned. Nor can you claim Kabam is depriving you of access to your account, because the game’s TOS requires you to agree the materials in your game account have no value. If you claim you didn’t agree to the ToS or claim it is invalid, then you have no right to play the game and the company can claim you defrauded it, when you illegally accessed the game without permission.
On the other hand, most countries do have laws against the kind of fraud where you claim you’re entitled to a refund for services when you’re just a disgruntled customer. Credit card companies rarely prosecute that kind of fraud, but it does happen.
I don't belong to china. But why are you interested in this if it does not concern you. Who said I illegally accessed the game. I am talking about accidental bans. What will you do if you get banned. In my country laws are different
We all want to know this mythical country you so speak of. The only place I can think of has a Mystery Shack.
I have not been banned. But my complaints and feedback is about how the mods in discord are harassing and threatening me
The mods did not harass or threaten you. The mods asked you to drop a line of discussion on the discord, and your response was to refuse. You then opened a ticket to demand an explanation, and once again you were told that you were timed out for refusing to honor the requests of the moderators. You then decided to attempt to educate the moderators about their job, the laws of your country, and portray yourself as some sort of victim. All unconvincingly.
This is unacceptable behavior. You don’t get to tell the moderators how to moderate, you don’t get to tell Kabam how to run one of their own official spaces, and you should know the first rule of threatening legal action is if you have to threaten it, everyone knows it’s an empty threat.
I’ll tell you the same thing I tell everyone else who threatens legal action. The same thing I’ve been telling armchair gaming lawyers for over twenty years. Stop talking about it and do it. If you have the nerve. Maybe if you do, you might learn something.
The lawyers reading your thread are having a laugh, because they actually know the law. Everyone else is having a laugh because they have heard these kinds of threats before, and we all know they are the tantrums of children. I don’t know what you are hoping to accomplish here, or what sort of oddball clown car audience you’re trying to appeal to, but all you are actually doing is enshrining yourself on the MCOC forum wall of shame.
Maybe find a more understanding audience. Something with a baboon cage perhaps.
And will add them here if needed. I would like a response from Kabam why they don't take criticism and harass players
You keep saying "I just wanted to give feedback", however you've sent an astonishing 65+ messages to modmail within a few minutes berating the (volunteer, non-kabam employed) mods to explain why you were timed out.
Feedback is just that - feedback. It's a 1 way conversation where you give your feedback, and it's acknowledged and you move on. Your feedback was in fact politely acknowledged but you sure didn't move on.
Instead you proceeded to send 60+ messages spanning everything from gdpr compliance to accusations kabam is banning people because they're on iOS to saying mods can't handle feedback even though your feedback was acknowledged. None of it makes sense. It really seems like you're just baiting an argument out of boredom.
When you were reporting another player trying to sell services, it was mentioned to you that it's appreciated, however you took that convo with that player to a whole new level that it didn't need to go. Not to mention there was a bit of "moderator impersonation" but we'll forget that happen. And no, this isn't a threat (cause you love throwing that one out there), it's just a statement of observation.
Either way, you took it upon yourself to escalate the situation, and were asked to stop engaging with them, and let kabam handle it.
You didn't though, and when timed out, you asked why and it was explained to you in the 1st response from the mod. You didn't like that so you continued on with another 62 messages accusing mods of not taking feedback well... What feedback?
You also threatened legal action and gdpr mishandling, which if you think that's the case, discord has a form you can fill out. You were told that but said that's incorrect. Mind sharing what gdpr policy is being violated? I'd love to know.
At this point it was just going in circles, and you were sending way too many messages in rapid succession for any volunteer moderator to want to keep up with (remember there's other users to tend to), that it got to a point where understanding what your true end game was other than either boredom, or just wanting someone to talk to...?
Either way, wishing you all the best.
No it was not responded to me. Again 65 or 100 messages. Why are you threatening me for providing feedback
How went in circles explain?
This is such a funny question to ask after saying the same exact things for the past 4 pages of comments
Have you looked at the screenshot. Can you back those claims by discord mods? Mods should be friendly to the community and take criticism not timeout them for feedback and criticism.
Who says mods need to be friendly? There moderators, it's there job to smack people on the wrist and shut them up when they're our of line like you
How'd this post begin as Goli.. and now says created by Autobot all along ?
So, would this fall under Miike's last comment for Goli.. in-game will also be banned “if you decide to make another Forum Account” ?
I made the post first time. Kabam deleted it. So I made another. Kabam tried to delete it. But failed. And hence it shows somehow like that. I don't even who that Gol guy is
Kabam doesn't try to delete posts, they just do it. The mods changed your name to Goli as a joke, just like this thread.
@BeeOfAutobots have you ever upload a video on YT placing a remote control in somewhere unusual? (Only old gamers will get the reference)
Sorry, Bub. I am not in the mood for jokes. I am quite feeling sad with the situation. I did nothing wrong but gave feedback and criticism and the mods in discord are threatening me for that
Oh ok I am sorry. Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
The discussion was about banning players from game accidentally. That's something can be reported as fraud in my country if there is no claim/ proof. I was stating that in a post created by someone who got banned.
What country are you in?
Can't say that's personal but kabam will know that basd on my game play and payment. In most countries if you don't get services for what you paid for you can sue the corporate and if there is any fraudulent behaviour you suspect the app itself may be black listed until proved otherwise. Fraudulent behaviour can just be a feeling of yours to do the reporting and police will verify the claim how far it is true.
There’s only one country that has ever ruled in favor of a player claiming to have been defrauded by an online game company for failing to provide services in the context of being banned that very heard of, and that’s China, and there were very particular circumstances there.
There is no charge for accessing the game, so you can’t claim damages if you’re banned. Nor can you claim Kabam is depriving you of access to your account, because the game’s TOS requires you to agree the materials in your game account have no value. If you claim you didn’t agree to the ToS or claim it is invalid, then you have no right to play the game and the company can claim you defrauded it, when you illegally accessed the game without permission.
On the other hand, most countries do have laws against the kind of fraud where you claim you’re entitled to a refund for services when you’re just a disgruntled customer. Credit card companies rarely prosecute that kind of fraud, but it does happen.
I don't belong to china. But why are you interested in this if it does not concern you. Who said I illegally accessed the game. I am talking about accidental bans. What will you do if you get banned. In my country laws are different
If I get banned it will be because I deserve it, or Crashed finally decides those free revives cost him his new Ferrari.
I’ve probably helped more players get errant bans reversed than any other single player. You are not talking about bans, accidental or otherwise. You are conducting a training class on how to spot a gaming Karen on amphetamines by example.
And no matter how much you keep saying “in my country laws are different” no one cares. That’s about as interesting as me saying in my backyard, trees are taller. But you did mention the GDPR, which is a European Union regulation. And nowhere in the European Union do I believe you have a leg to stand on. Unless the EU annexed Shadowloo recently and M. Bison has it out for Canadian game companies.
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"Why are you threatening me for providing back 😭"
I feel like I'm watching a Bill Burr skit or something lmao I'm dead.
This might be my favorite thread in 2024😂
Just so you know, you can't sue them for banning you from their discord. It has nothing to do with the spending on their game. Its their equivalent of blocking your twitter account.
Chances are they will take the proof to court, laugh at the person and counter sue for legal fees...
There is no charge for accessing the game, so you can’t claim damages if you’re banned. Nor can you claim Kabam is depriving you of access to your account, because the game’s TOS requires you to agree the materials in your game account have no value. If you claim you didn’t agree to the ToS or claim it is invalid, then you have no right to play the game and the company can claim you defrauded it, when you illegally accessed the game without permission.
On the other hand, most countries do have laws against the kind of fraud where you claim you’re entitled to a refund for services when you’re just a disgruntled customer. Credit card companies rarely prosecute that kind of fraud, but it does happen.
So, would this fall under Miike's last comment for Goli.. in-game will also be banned “if you decide to make another Forum Account” ?
This is unacceptable behavior. You don’t get to tell the moderators how to moderate, you don’t get to tell Kabam how to run one of their own official spaces, and you should know the first rule of threatening legal action is if you have to threaten it, everyone knows it’s an empty threat.
I’ll tell you the same thing I tell everyone else who threatens legal action. The same thing I’ve been telling armchair gaming lawyers for over twenty years. Stop talking about it and do it. If you have the nerve. Maybe if you do, you might learn something.
The lawyers reading your thread are having a laugh, because they actually know the law. Everyone else is having a laugh because they have heard these kinds of threats before, and we all know they are the tantrums of children. I don’t know what you are hoping to accomplish here, or what sort of oddball clown car audience you’re trying to appeal to, but all you are actually doing is enshrining yourself on the MCOC forum wall of shame.
Maybe find a more understanding audience. Something with a baboon cage perhaps.
I’ve probably helped more players get errant bans reversed than any other single player. You are not talking about bans, accidental or otherwise. You are conducting a training class on how to spot a gaming Karen on amphetamines by example.
And no matter how much you keep saying “in my country laws are different” no one cares. That’s about as interesting as me saying in my backyard, trees are taller. But you did mention the GDPR, which is a European Union regulation. And nowhere in the European Union do I believe you have a leg to stand on. Unless the EU annexed Shadowloo recently and M. Bison has it out for Canadian game companies.
Surprised your highly educated self didn't know that.
Geez dude doesn't listen, Kabam doesn't have to give you proof.