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Upcoming Changes to Mystic Dispersion and Dexterity - Discussion Thread
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@INTEGRAL
Right because no one will ever want a Doctor Voodoo, Magik, Morningstar, Mephisto, Loki, or Scarlet Witch EVER AGAIN!
I’ve never had MD and I want all those champs (even got a few of them)
Nullification and Expiration will still work fine. Just when you decide to bring let’s say Hulk to the Arena he won’t trigger MD with every single attack when he drops low and gets fury basically every hit
He already commented that they're turning their attention to PS after this is finalized.
I do have MD maxed out , don't use MD r5 for a long time with new champions that counter Mystic champions (Blade Luke cage and Hulk-ragnarok). I do like that we are getting refund for all the units i used to max out MD. I did rank up Juggernaut and Dormammu for AW defence ( i don't use them in any part of the game only in arena) . Feels a complete waste time and items to have ranked up these champions.
I think it would be fair to have 1 RDT for 4 and 5 stars
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Over the past few months this game has been unstable (overheating, network outages lag). I do hope that these changes don't make the game more unstable
its just my opinion, i really hope the game is better for these changes , we can test MD again, its going to feel like a new game
My personal view is that it wasn't broken, perse. It reacted with Dexterity in such a way that fed it powerfully. Unfortunately, Dexterity is a necessary mechanic for basic and crucial gameplay. That created somewhat of a loophole, one that became very beneficial to Players in War Defense. People used it very advantageously, up until now. That made it extremely overpowered, to the point where it was a trap that fed Power and generated almost certain Kills because of basic functioning. As the game changed and evolved, it came time to revisit the relationship, especially with so many newer Champs with more Abilities to trigger it. I agree, though. You can't rely on one strategy forever. The game changes. It's been used for years. Just like all things that change, it's time to let it go and find new strategies. As for Ranking, it's pretty much any change that comes where people try an angle at Tickets. That defeats the whole purpose of making changes, not to mention contradicts the point of Ranking and earning more Resources to Rank, as well as diminishes what the real purpose of Tickets is. Start giving them for anything but changes to the Champs themselves, and they become a go-to for any change whatsoever to content. Point blank, when changes are made to content, we have to adjust as we are. When they were introduced, those changes altered the very way the entire game performs. Not at all the same situation. Not to mention a number of changes to Champs.
I used crossbones a lot before and one of his function is that he can reduce defensive abilities 20% for each fury active buff and when I had more than five and one of them expires (sometimes even four) the mystic dispersion would not trigger, this can still happen right? for crossbones to avoid triggering MD thanks to his defensive reduction abilities?
Really good answer! It made everything a lot clearer and is quite reassuring as well. Even if RDTs aren't given at least I know what Kabam means by "we're looking at all mystic champs". Thanks!
You succeeded at getting me to review all the previous pages, yet again, but I was not successful at locating this comment of which you speak. Perhaps you could lend a hand locating it?
This change can't be referred to as a bug of any type, I do strongly believe that summoners should be given the option to have a rank down ticket ONLY for mystic champions that they have ranked up for this reason, even any awakening gems and sig stones that many people have used should have the option to be refunded to the player if they chose they would like to do that. All these resources are very valuable in this game and for a major change like this it can be a step in the right direction to show the community that yes this change has impacted a lot of people we are changing it for the better but hey this an option now if you would chose to take back any resource you have used on specific mystic champions.
Refunding the mastery cores and units that people have invested into the masteries was a very good idea and the community appreciates the effort to do such things I just hope you can reconsider the decision and apply it to all resources that have been invested into the champions.
How is the champ working the same when you take MD out, I have Mstar at r4 placing her on sp2 unblockable + powergain 100% miniboss node, when they evade her sp2 they trigger 2 times dexterity she will get a new bar of power out of that, how can you say this is not different now??? We understand you that don`t want us to get RDT, I saw you all over the post saying the same thing, OK, we got your point, let us present ours. We want mystic RDT, I want my defenders (Mordo and Mstar at r3) don`t need them in defense anymore cause they won`t work as they used to, we didn`t knew they are going to make this changes when we rank them up. Mechanics of them is changed cause I use them only on defense, they don`t gain power by triggering dexterity it`s a huge difference! So don`t tell us when we should receive RDT or not, if you don`t have mystic defenders at r4/r5 good for you, we do and we are not ok with this change.
Now you tell me you gona change the Mystic Dispersion!!!!
THANK YOU KABAM!
I just want to say we need mystic rank down
ticket for return!
@Kabam Miike
MD was never promoted has having a bug in the way it operated and therefore champions were ranked accordingly.
First you bring out a champion (Blade) that made all mystic defenders useless with relevant synergy and now making the changes to MD to further cement the uselessness of Mystic defenders!
I have spent significant time/money/purchasing and ranking up specific mystic champs to take advantage of MD5/5 yet you won’t consider compensation even if the rank down tickets could only be used on mystic champs..
I hope that this request will be taken into serious consideration for the community.
What i would like to know is, why wasn't/isn't this refund done for the pure skill mastery? The mastery isn't what it once was after changes were made. No compensation was given for a broken mastery that still doesn't work like it once did. You also gave compensation for when you nerfed will power. So again i ask, why no compensation for the pure shill mastery. You say it works just as good at the 3rd lvl. But what about lvl 4 and lvl 5 that's not needed anymore. Where is the compensation for those two lvls?
It has been asked several times without an answer— what are you guys going to do about mystic cores obtained in the mystic daily quests? I spent several months farming those quests for those cores. If I am not refunded loyalty or units for those cores I won’t be able to re-rank my mystic dispersion after you guys nerf it. How are you guys addressing this?
The severity of this change is illustrated by the fact that a full refund is being offered for MD. The irony is that resources spent on MD isn't really the most pressing concern for many of us, since units and loyalty come in a relatively steady supply. The real concern is the mystic champions we ranked and awoke, because in many cases those were done with resources obtained through static content, which are effectively irreplaceable.
A few points I hope you can pass to the team to consider:
The ability to see the effects of the change to MD is somewhat low initially. In order to see the change with dexterity (which most of the player base is concerned about), we need to face a mystic champ in AW or arena that has MD. We cannot quest. This leaves a very random and low chance during the 6 days. I understand this may or may not have been the same setup for those in the Beta test, but most of us, including myself, were not in it. Can you share some of the data which shows how the mystic champs performed during the beta test?
Mechanics vs Performance. While the mechanics of mystic champs remain unchanged, the performance is expected to be significantly impacted. I will wait for the 6-day trial to confirm, but by text, all indications support mystics being nerfed. If data supports the performance being impacted, I do think a mystic class RDT is justified. 99% of the player base, not considering brand new players, do not rank up dorm and juggs for their mechanics. They are not ranked up for questing. They are ranked up for their performance capabilities for AWD, which will have been impacted by your decision to change the meta.
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