Give it to everyone or no one. Plain and simple. Only players with strong rosters would be able to finish the quest so the solution is to let them stack their roster even more? Kabam is really wearing me down over the years... don't know how much nonsense I will continue to deal with
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!! The option kabam chose to “fix this” by allowing some to use on top tier new champs while the rest of the community get stuck with junk is not on the list of viable options. Kabam you’ve stated and shown in the past that you won’t allow players to exploit a bug, yet here you are doing just that leaving others worse off for waiting.
I haven’t read all the comments, I just scrolled through all the pages looking for a response from a kabam mod.........I found none.
I do however found a response which linked to a vid from dorky dave, which in his credit is really clear about this matter (thank you for that dorky dave, I resubscribed).
Now since this matter will not be resolved by Kabam in a way we all feel it should be, let’s just agree that we will no longer spend any money on this game untill they do. That includes not spending a dime on a black friday sale deal as well.........hurt them where they feel it, their wallet.
Also I think this topic has been set to not renew when a new post is entered. It doesn’t go to the top.
It will be lost soon.
They just gave a popular YouTuber a couple thousand more subscribers instantly last week by mailing every player a link to one of his strategy videos and he’s already posted a video condemning this nonsense.
Makes you wonder why others youtubers haven’t done the same.
Have to keep pushing this. So contradicting to their previous stances on exploits. Ridiculous @Kabam Miike. This has to be rectified. Or change the rewards to apply to all champs going forward.
The point of merging threads in these cases is not to keep things organized. It's to contain the conversation in a thread that's so long and has so many replies, others won't want to view it.
Not allowing a thread to bump is another control technique often used on this forum.
These things usually happen when kabam has their heels dug in. Anyone can see that the decision to allow some players to exploit a bug is a bad one.
I'll quote some past comments from the forum boss that are relevant and should have been used in this situation.
"we have been made aware of an active bug that had the potential to be exploited in a manner that allows players to receive rewards they have not earned"
"this was not a situation that we could allow to continue and have addressed it as quickly as possible in order to ensure that nobody could gain an advantage in the game and tip the balance thru use of this exploit"
The rest is details about the fix and how they would take back resources, champs, shards, etc etc etc. Bans were also dealt out. I thought that the reaction was over the top to that particular bug/exploit and would not want to see the same heavy-handed smack down occur with the current bug/exploit.
Nevertheless, consistency is called for. It's blatantly obvious that exploiting this particular bug has enormous ramifications. The difference between a 2015 champ and current meta champs is night and day. The fact that only a few players were able to exploit this bug only makes the CORRECT decision and CORRECT fix all the easier to execute. Anything else is a direct slap in the face to every other player.
Those quotes above relate directly to what has happened with the current bug/exploit. There's no wiggle room at all.
This should have been an easy call, a slam dunk. Fix it, correct the rosters that exploited the bug, move on. The wrongheadedness of the stated decision is mind-blowing. The inability to think thru these situations is mind-blowing. I can't begin to understand how such a straightforward situation could be handled so poorly, especially when there is precedent for these types of things all over the forum. Even baby Groot pushed the right button in the end and he was just a twig. I'm smh.
. I can't begin to understand how such a straightforward situation could be handled so poorly, especially when there is precedent for these types of things all over the forum.
“It’s Friday night. I’m not losing my weekend to deal with this sht. Let them keep it.”
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
Others care that “a few people” purposely exploited this bug for otherwise unattainable advancement of their account. Many of those other people are directly affected by people who did it.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Feel free to respect a differing opinion at any time.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
Others care that a few people purposely exploited this bug for otherwise unattainable advancement of their account. Many of those other people are directly affected by people who did it.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Feel free to respect a differing opinion at any time.
You mean they used the Gems they earned? How do you determine who exploited that, and who just used the Gems? There's only so many awarded. Which means some may have been aware but others just used them. They made a mistake. They let people keep it because it was on their end. People who didn't even use them yet weren't affected.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
See everyone this is where the block list and LOL button come in handy.
Carry on
Yep. They’ve sent in thier closer. He’ll now derail the thread and get it closed. It’s amazing how such a low level player can come in and take over discussions. He doesn’t care that they get an advantage but he cares about a player running 10 accounts and stealing his 3 star shards in war. How convenient
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
I'm being described as selfish and people are complaining about what others got. Interesting.
If something is a bug, it's not intended. They have to fix it. They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing. Did some use it knowing it was bugged? Sure. Some didn't. How many people got to use them in the bugged state do you figure? A handful, perhaps. People who are already developed, and a couple more R4s among them are not going to throw the game off.
Do not presume to tell me what I will and will not do. It's there for everyone should I choose to do it. The issue is mine to discuss as well. I say it doesn't matter.
The best part are the players who completed this on purpose specifically to take advantage of this bug that are now offering to complete it for other players for a price.
Based on what I’ve seen, for only $800 you can have someone complete it for you to get rewards worse than they got.
The best part are the players who completed this on purpose specifically to take advantage of this bug that are now offering to complete it for other players for a price.
For only $800 and you can have someone complete it for you to get rewards worse than they got.
Offering to be a paid Merc is a whole other ball of wax. That's not cool. My point is, you need quantifiable proof to take action in the case of an exploit. You can't prove who had knowledge of the glitch, and who just used their Gems. That's not something you can do. We can't read peoples' minds.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
I'm being described as selfish and people are complaining about what others got. Interesting.
If something is a bug, it's not intended. They have to fix it. They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing. Did some use it knowing it was bugged? Sure. Some didn't. How many people got to use them in the bugged state do you figure? A handful, perhaps. People who are already developed, and a couple more R4s among them are not going to throw the game off.
Do not presume to tell me what I will and will not do. It's there for everyone should I choose to do it. The issue is mine to discuss as well. I say it doesn't matter.
The ones who knew and did it are alot of end game community and those willing to spend to get it done got to abused it.
People who are already devloped??
The end game players duhhh!!!!
and you said you dont care because it doesnt effect you!!!
But it effects people like me who play against these people, and they have an edge on rankups!!!
It was a bug and kabam needs to do right thing and fix it, and correct the real rewards that was suppose to be given when u 100% it.
And you say its no intended?
Was it intended to give u a non “2015” ranknup gem?
The rewards was intended to be what was said when they was released before the event even started!!!!
The people who used this glitch gems know damn well what they was doing.
Your comment
“They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing.”
You pretty much shot urself on the foot.
This is what we are trying to say. But you are derailing this post.
How many pages in this thread and not 1 mod can speak... they warned before about taking advantage of bugs and yet we here again, all it takes it a post to say they will reverse the gems of those who exploit the bug. Then again the people that did exploit it are top players who spend money and we all know rules are not same for whole player base
Plenty who spend more than they spend did not do this, based on the fact that people have been banned for less and that kabam’s own words said this is a ToS violation.
This isn’t about money. They will lose more by not reversing it.
The main issue is the players that took advantage knew it was bug. Then they told their alliance mates so they too could rush to complete it. They knowingly exploited a bug and it's just ignored. At the very least they should have those champs ranked down and not refunded the ISO or gold spent leveling past r3.
Comments
If this is how they are dealing with this situation they have no back up when people exploit future bugs.
It will be lost soon.
I do however found a response which linked to a vid from dorky dave, which in his credit is really clear about this matter (thank you for that dorky dave, I resubscribed).
Now since this matter will not be resolved by Kabam in a way we all feel it should be, let’s just agree that we will no longer spend any money on this game untill they do. That includes not spending a dime on a black friday sale deal as well.........hurt them where they feel it, their wallet.
They just gave a popular YouTuber a couple thousand more subscribers instantly last week by mailing every player a link to one of his strategy videos and he’s already posted a video condemning this nonsense.
Makes you wonder why others youtubers haven’t done the same.
But don’t worry. This isn’t going away.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Not allowing a thread to bump is another control technique often used on this forum.
These things usually happen when kabam has their heels dug in. Anyone can see that the decision to allow some players to exploit a bug is a bad one.
I'll quote some past comments from the forum boss that are relevant and should have been used in this situation.
"we have been made aware of an active bug that had the potential to be exploited in a manner that allows players to receive rewards they have not earned"
"this was not a situation that we could allow to continue and have addressed it as quickly as possible in order to ensure that nobody could gain an advantage in the game and tip the balance thru use of this exploit"
The rest is details about the fix and how they would take back resources, champs, shards, etc etc etc. Bans were also dealt out. I thought that the reaction was over the top to that particular bug/exploit and would not want to see the same heavy-handed smack down occur with the current bug/exploit.
Nevertheless, consistency is called for. It's blatantly obvious that exploiting this particular bug has enormous ramifications. The difference between a 2015 champ and current meta champs is night and day. The fact that only a few players were able to exploit this bug only makes the CORRECT decision and CORRECT fix all the easier to execute. Anything else is a direct slap in the face to every other player.
Those quotes above relate directly to what has happened with the current bug/exploit. There's no wiggle room at all.
This should have been an easy call, a slam dunk. Fix it, correct the rosters that exploited the bug, move on. The wrongheadedness of the stated decision is mind-blowing. The inability to think thru these situations is mind-blowing. I can't begin to understand how such a straightforward situation could be handled so poorly, especially when there is precedent for these types of things all over the forum. Even baby Groot pushed the right button in the end and he was just a twig. I'm smh.
“It’s Friday night. I’m not losing my weekend to deal with this sht. Let them keep it.”
Even your precious Dorky Dave thinks you messed up on this one.
Do the right thing. Do the fair thing and reverse these exploited rank ups.
Because they’ve already exploited it and want to keep their ill gotten gains.
Or they’re just cowards afraid of controversy.
Thanks to Dave for having a pair.
Yeah most times quick to point out an issue...except when it benefits them.
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
Others care that “a few people” purposely exploited this bug for otherwise unattainable advancement of their account. Many of those other people are directly affected by people who did it.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Feel free to respect a differing opinion at any time.
You mean they used the Gems they earned? How do you determine who exploited that, and who just used the Gems? There's only so many awarded. Which means some may have been aware but others just used them. They made a mistake. They let people keep it because it was on their end. People who didn't even use them yet weren't affected.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
What a selfish opinion you have
@GroundedWisdom
Carry on
Only happens if you let it. Keep it on point.
I'm being described as selfish and people are complaining about what others got. Interesting.
If something is a bug, it's not intended. They have to fix it. They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing. Did some use it knowing it was bugged? Sure. Some didn't. How many people got to use them in the bugged state do you figure? A handful, perhaps. People who are already developed, and a couple more R4s among them are not going to throw the game off.
Do not presume to tell me what I will and will not do. It's there for everyone should I choose to do it. The issue is mine to discuss as well. I say it doesn't matter.
Based on what I’ve seen, for only $800 you can have someone complete it for you to get rewards worse than they got.
Offering to be a paid Merc is a whole other ball of wax. That's not cool. My point is, you need quantifiable proof to take action in the case of an exploit. You can't prove who had knowledge of the glitch, and who just used their Gems. That's not something you can do. We can't read peoples' minds.
The ones who knew and did it are alot of end game community and those willing to spend to get it done got to abused it.
People who are already devloped??
The end game players duhhh!!!!
and you said you dont care because it doesnt effect you!!!
But it effects people like me who play against these people, and they have an edge on rankups!!!
It was a bug and kabam needs to do right thing and fix it, and correct the real rewards that was suppose to be given when u 100% it.
And you say its no intended?
Was it intended to give u a non “2015” ranknup gem?
The rewards was intended to be what was said when they was released before the event even started!!!!
The people who used this glitch gems know damn well what they was doing.
Your comment
“They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing.”
You pretty much shot urself on the foot.
This is what we are trying to say. But you are derailing this post.
Plenty who spend more than they spend did not do this, based on the fact that people have been banned for less and that kabam’s own words said this is a ToS violation.
This isn’t about money. They will lose more by not reversing it.