Act 7

Okaythen · April 2020

Kabam Miike said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

Lvernon15 said:
Get the variant designers on it
Well at least the V4 designers I dont want another V1
Again, same designer.

My favorite thing about miike is how he likes using that emoji
Sassy miike

Mauled · April 2020

GroundedWisdom said:

A l p h a said:
Just make sure since this is a new chapter....

Remove the 5 or 6 star requirement!! Let us use our whole Roster again! Please?!
Why would you be using 4*s in a mode harder than Act 6?

Bringing my 4* NF or Wasp would be worth only playing with effectively 4 champs for what they bring to the table for CMM/Ghost respectively. Equally, an R3 equivalent can still take a fight in a 6.4 champ if you’re good and that’s enough for me.

While I can, and do, play both in Act 6 with no synergies I don’t think there’s any real debate that them having their synergy partner is worth a dead slot in your team.

GroundedWisdom · April 2020

Siliyo said:

GroundedWisdom said:

A l p h a said:
Just make sure since this is a new chapter....

Remove the 5 or 6 star requirement!! Let us use our whole Roster again! Please?!
Why would you be using 4*s in a mode harder than Act 6?
Why not? You don’t think there are skillful players who don’t have the 5 or 6* version of a champion they need for a counter?

Skill also builds a Roster over time, and you can't depend on 4*s forever.

GroundedWisdom · April 2020

It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.

Lvernon15 · April 2020

GroundedWisdom said:
It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.

And if someone is capeable of doing the content with an underdeveloped roster why should they be stopped?

lowlevelplayer · April 2020

GroundedWisdom said:
It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.

brian grant got UC with a 4/40 sunspot

GroundedWisdom · April 2020

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:
It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.
And if someone is capeable of doing the content with an underdeveloped roster why should they be stopped?

The game is designed to give access to Rewards based on levels of progress. It's bypassing the whole process of progression. Same reason there are Gates in Act 6. You don't want people who barely have a 5 and 6* Roster to jump to Cavalier Rewards.

Lvernon15 · April 2020

GroundedWisdom said:

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:
It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.
And if someone is capeable of doing the content with an underdeveloped roster why should they be stopped?
The game is designed to give access to Rewards based on levels of progress. It's bypassing the whole process of progression. Same reason there are Gates in Act 6. You don't want people who barely have a 5 and 6* Roster to jump to Cavalier Rewards.

If someone can do something they shouldn’t be stopped by a gate, simple as, if a player is extremely skilled they should be able to progress really quickly

Kabam Miike · April 2020

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:
It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.
And if someone is capeable of doing the content with an underdeveloped roster why should they be stopped?
The game is designed to give access to Rewards based on levels of progress. It's bypassing the whole process of progression. Same reason there are Gates in Act 6. You don't want people who barely have a 5 and 6* Roster to jump to Cavalier Rewards.
If someone can do something they shouldn’t be stopped by a gate, simple as, if a player is extremely skilled they should be able to progress really quickly

That's not how games like this with intended progression levels and gates work. There will always be Progression Gates, and there will always be the time/effort needed to build the right Roster.

Progression gates come in many forms, whether that's Level locks, Uncollected/Cavalier only content, or Rarity gates. Skilled players will have an easier time getting the requirements for those gates, but the gates will always exist.

GroundedWisdom · April 2020

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:
It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.
And if someone is capeable of doing the content with an underdeveloped roster why should they be stopped?
The game is designed to give access to Rewards based on levels of progress. It's bypassing the whole process of progression. Same reason there are Gates in Act 6. You don't want people who barely have a 5 and 6* Roster to jump to Cavalier Rewards.
If someone can do something they shouldn’t be stopped by a gate, simple as, if a player is extremely skilled they should be able to progress really quickly

I'm going to have to disagree with that. There are large scale and acute problems that come from that.

TheTalents · April 2020

This is my ask. please tone the attack ratings down. It is simply just not fun get killed by a 5 hit combo with a r5 maxed out champion. Other than the attack values I have no real complaints because my roster is diverse. More skilled based fights would help as well. Having Quake and Ghost still being the main two counters for everything is annoying when we have so many good champions.

StevieManWonder · April 2020

Kabam Miike said:

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:
It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.
And if someone is capeable of doing the content with an underdeveloped roster why should they be stopped?
The game is designed to give access to Rewards based on levels of progress. It's bypassing the whole process of progression. Same reason there are Gates in Act 6. You don't want people who barely have a 5 and 6* Roster to jump to Cavalier Rewards.
If someone can do something they shouldn’t be stopped by a gate, simple as, if a player is extremely skilled they should be able to progress really quickly
That's not how games like this with intended progression levels and gates work. There will always be Progression Gates, and there will always be the time/effort needed to build the right Roster.

Progression gates come in many forms, whether that's Level locks, Uncollected/Cavalier only content, or Rarity gates. Skilled players will have an easier time getting the requirements for those gates, but the gates will always exist.

Do you mean that Rarity gates will always exist? Because if Book 2 is also going to be limited to five and six stars, I am going to be sorely disappointed. I have an expansive five star roster and a decent six star roster, but I am still missing one or two key synergy members (like Wasp as a five or six star for Ghost) and allowing four stars would make the game much more enjoyable.

Lvernon15 · April 2020

Kabam Miike said:

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:
It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.
And if someone is capeable of doing the content with an underdeveloped roster why should they be stopped?
The game is designed to give access to Rewards based on levels of progress. It's bypassing the whole process of progression. Same reason there are Gates in Act 6. You don't want people who barely have a 5 and 6* Roster to jump to Cavalier Rewards.
If someone can do something they shouldn’t be stopped by a gate, simple as, if a player is extremely skilled they should be able to progress really quickly
That's not how games like this with intended progression levels and gates work. There will always be Progression Gates, and there will always be the time/effort needed to build the right Roster.

Progression gates come in many forms, whether that's Level locks, Uncollected/Cavalier only content, or Rarity gates. Skilled players will have an easier time getting the requirements for those gates, but the gates will always exist.

But a skilled player can get 5 stars from act 5 with 2 and 3 stars, makes sense with that logic

StevieManWonder · April 2020

GroundedWisdom said:

Siliyo said:

GroundedWisdom said:

A l p h a said:
Just make sure since this is a new chapter....

Remove the 5 or 6 star requirement!! Let us use our whole Roster again! Please?!
Why would you be using 4*s in a mode harder than Act 6?
Why not? You don’t think there are skillful players who don’t have the 5 or 6* version of a champion they need for a counter?
Skill also builds a Roster over time, and you can't depend on 4*s forever.

Skill does not build a roster, luck does. It doesn't matter how skilled you are when you're opening a six star. You could be as good as MSD and pull a Groot or you can be a total scrub and pull a Domino. The only way to try to get the champs you need is to open as many crystals as possible and that comes from spending units not progressing.

TheTalents · April 2020

Kabam Miike said:

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Lvernon15 said:

GroundedWisdom said:
It's like taking an underdeveloped Account into End-Game material.
And if someone is capeable of doing the content with an underdeveloped roster why should they be stopped?
The game is designed to give access to Rewards based on levels of progress. It's bypassing the whole process of progression. Same reason there are Gates in Act 6. You don't want people who barely have a 5 and 6* Roster to jump to Cavalier Rewards.
If someone can do something they shouldn’t be stopped by a gate, simple as, if a player is extremely skilled they should be able to progress really quickly
That's not how games like this with intended progression levels and gates work. There will always be Progression Gates, and there will always be the time/effort needed to build the right Roster.

Progression gates come in many forms, whether that's Level locks, Uncollected/Cavalier only content, or Rarity gates. Skilled players will have an easier time getting the requirements for those gates, but the gates will always exist.

We just need 4 stars for synergy purposes. All the levels and holding back things that you're speaking of doesn't apply. No one will realistically taking down 90% of act 6 content with a 4 star when you're taking 500-1000's plus parry damage depending on the node. Causing people to use items on nodes that should be easy with having Electro and Heimdoll for example is just not fun.

I still haven't' fully unlocked the full power of my Ghost because I just so happen to not pull a 5 or 6 star Wasp. I have well over 100 5 star champions and 20+ 6 stars. Nothing fun about having to parry before I hit my Sp2 because Ghost isn't unblockable.

Lvernon15 · April 2020

The thing is, to get to this we have to have finished act 6, which means we must have a solid 5 star roster, so why block out 4 stars? We’ve already proven we have progressed past the point of reliance on them, so just let us bring them in for synergy purposes or maybe that 1 fight we don’t have the right 5* for like if there’s another acid wash mysterio type fight

Kabam Miike · April 2020

Lvernon15 said:
The thing is, to get to this we have to have finished act 6, which means we must have a solid 5 star roster, so why block out 4 stars? We’ve already proven we have progressed past the point of reliance on them, so just let us bring them in for synergy purposes or maybe that 1 fight we don’t have the right 5* for like if there’s another acid wash mysterio type fight

I'm not sure what the team has decided, but we have been pretty clear in the past that we didn't plan on letting lower-level Champions past Act 6. I wouldn't hold your breath on being able to use 4-Stars again.

Gamer · April 2020

Kabam Miike said:

Lvernon15 said:
The thing is, to get to this we have to have finished act 6, which means we must have a solid 5 star roster, so why block out 4 stars? We’ve already proven we have progressed past the point of reliance on them, so just let us bring them in for synergy purposes or maybe that 1 fight we don’t have the right 5* for like if there’s another acid wash mysterio type fight
I'm not sure what the team has decided, but we have been pretty clear in the past that we didn't plan on letting lower-level Champions past Act 6. I wouldn't hold your breath on being able to use 4-Stars again.

I’m excited either way I’m really likede 6.4 a few part just hard without prower champions at all but that’s do’s not meant it is bad that just means I’m Hav to expanding my roster.

BowTieJohn · April 2020

At the beginning of this year I completed and fully explored Act 4 as I only had the quest with Maestro left. I've barely started Act 5, but hearing Act 7 (Book 2 Act 1) has certainly motivated me to work toward finishing my completion of Act 5 for this year. I look forward to any video content YouTubers post when Book 2 Act 1 debuts!

GroundedWisdom · April 2020

StevieManWonder said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Siliyo said:

GroundedWisdom said:

A l p h a said:
Just make sure since this is a new chapter....

Remove the 5 or 6 star requirement!! Let us use our whole Roster again! Please?!
Why would you be using 4*s in a mode harder than Act 6?
Why not? You don’t think there are skillful players who don’t have the 5 or 6* version of a champion they need for a counter?
Skill also builds a Roster over time, and you can't depend on 4*s forever.
Skill does not build a roster, luck does. It doesn't matter how skilled you are when you're opening a six star. You could be as good as MSD and pull a Groot or you can be a total scrub and pull a Domino. The only way to try to get the champs you need is to open as many crystals as possible and that comes from spending units not progressing.

So far, the Gates have been based on progress. Not luck. "X Amount of..." for example. Fights like The Champion aren't a Gate.

LewisTheLlama · April 2020

Y’all can defend the gates all you want but the fact that I’m essentially road blocked from defeating 6.2 Sinister (and have been for months despite opening countless 5 and 6 star crystals) because I don’t have a Heimdall, Medusa or Hyperion is absurd. 90 5* champs and not one of them can counter that fight.

TheTalents · April 2020

GroundedWisdom said:

StevieManWonder said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Siliyo said:

GroundedWisdom said:

A l p h a said:
Just make sure since this is a new chapter....

Remove the 5 or 6 star requirement!! Let us use our whole Roster again! Please?!
Why would you be using 4*s in a mode harder than Act 6?
Why not? You don’t think there are skillful players who don’t have the 5 or 6* version of a champion they need for a counter?
Skill also builds a Roster over time, and you can't depend on 4*s forever.
Skill does not build a roster, luck does. It doesn't matter how skilled you are when you're opening a six star. You could be as good as MSD and pull a Groot or you can be a total scrub and pull a Domino. The only way to try to get the champs you need is to open as many crystals as possible and that comes from spending units not progressing.
So far, the Gates have been based on progress. Not luck. "X Amount of..." for example. Fights like The Champion aren't a Gate.

Can we please stick to the topic? You've never played the Champion, you have no idea how little counters he has especially for full exploration. We would like to talk to Kabam about how they can continue to make the game fun. You saying the Champion isn't a gate is so false and so wrong that this will go down a deep rabbit hole and take us out of constructive feedback.

GroundedWisdom · April 2020

TheTalents said:

GroundedWisdom said:

StevieManWonder said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Siliyo said:

GroundedWisdom said:

A l p h a said:
Just make sure since this is a new chapter....

Remove the 5 or 6 star requirement!! Let us use our whole Roster again! Please?!
Why would you be using 4*s in a mode harder than Act 6?
Why not? You don’t think there are skillful players who don’t have the 5 or 6* version of a champion they need for a counter?
Skill also builds a Roster over time, and you can't depend on 4*s forever.
Skill does not build a roster, luck does. It doesn't matter how skilled you are when you're opening a six star. You could be as good as MSD and pull a Groot or you can be a total scrub and pull a Domino. The only way to try to get the champs you need is to open as many crystals as possible and that comes from spending units not progressing.
So far, the Gates have been based on progress. Not luck. "X Amount of..." for example. Fights like The Champion aren't a Gate.
Can we please stick to the topic? You've never played the Champion, you have no idea how little counters he has especially for full exploration. We would like to talk to Kabam about how they can continue to make the game fun. You saying the Champion isn't a gate is so false and so wrong that this will go down a deep rabbit hole and take us out of constructive feedback.

That's not a Gate. That's a Fight which requires a very specific counter. Is it limiting. Sure. It's not a Progress Gate.

H3t3r · April 2020

GroundedWisdom said:

TheTalents said:

GroundedWisdom said:

StevieManWonder said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Siliyo said:

GroundedWisdom said:

A l p h a said:
Just make sure since this is a new chapter....

Remove the 5 or 6 star requirement!! Let us use our whole Roster again! Please?!
Why would you be using 4*s in a mode harder than Act 6?
Why not? You don’t think there are skillful players who don’t have the 5 or 6* version of a champion they need for a counter?
Skill also builds a Roster over time, and you can't depend on 4*s forever.
Skill does not build a roster, luck does. It doesn't matter how skilled you are when you're opening a six star. You could be as good as MSD and pull a Groot or you can be a total scrub and pull a Domino. The only way to try to get the champs you need is to open as many crystals as possible and that comes from spending units not progressing.
So far, the Gates have been based on progress. Not luck. "X Amount of..." for example. Fights like The Champion aren't a Gate.
Can we please stick to the topic? You've never played the Champion, you have no idea how little counters he has especially for full exploration. We would like to talk to Kabam about how they can continue to make the game fun. You saying the Champion isn't a gate is so false and so wrong that this will go down a deep rabbit hole and take us out of constructive feedback.
That's not a Gate. That's a Fight which requires a very specific counter. Is it limiting. Sure. It's not a Progress Gate.

Very specific counter plus gates plus linked nodes...

GroundedWisdom · April 2020

H3t3r said:

GroundedWisdom said:

TheTalents said:

GroundedWisdom said:

StevieManWonder said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Siliyo said:

GroundedWisdom said:

A l p h a said:
Just make sure since this is a new chapter....

Remove the 5 or 6 star requirement!! Let us use our whole Roster again! Please?!
Why would you be using 4*s in a mode harder than Act 6?
Why not? You don’t think there are skillful players who don’t have the 5 or 6* version of a champion they need for a counter?
Skill also builds a Roster over time, and you can't depend on 4*s forever.
Skill does not build a roster, luck does. It doesn't matter how skilled you are when you're opening a six star. You could be as good as MSD and pull a Groot or you can be a total scrub and pull a Domino. The only way to try to get the champs you need is to open as many crystals as possible and that comes from spending units not progressing.
So far, the Gates have been based on progress. Not luck. "X Amount of..." for example. Fights like The Champion aren't a Gate.
Can we please stick to the topic? You've never played the Champion, you have no idea how little counters he has especially for full exploration. We would like to talk to Kabam about how they can continue to make the game fun. You saying the Champion isn't a gate is so false and so wrong that this will go down a deep rabbit hole and take us out of constructive feedback.
That's not a Gate. That's a Fight which requires a very specific counter. Is it limiting. Sure. It's not a Progress Gate.
Very specific counter plus gates plus linked nodes...

The Gates are the Gates. That's my point.

Act 7

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