Was including this in the roadmap warranted? It let the community run wild with their expectations and now they’re let down by their own speculations and expectations.
So newer guys get lesser shards, and don't know the T5cc they're about to get. I understand that the people who finished it earlier have put in hard work, but they get the extra shards and know the T5cc they have already. Kind of an unfair advantage. Doesn't affect me much since I don't think I can sit through 100% Abyss, but definitely sucks for the others.
Was including this in the roadmap warranted? It let the community run wild with their expectations and now they’re let down by their own speculations and expectations.
Agreed here, but this still leaves things up to RNG, although a better chance, its still chance. I want to dupe my 6* Fury, but could potentially still open this crystal and not get him. Its not so much about expectations, but verbatim saying they wanted to reduce the randomness. Sure they did that, but why can't they just give a guaranteed reward with a t5c selector or even better 2-50% selectors?
Reducing randomness isn't eliminating it. Granted this isn't the direction I thought they would go but it's almost what tons of people have been asking for, reduce RNG for getting good 6*s. This is exactly that.
10 diferents champions of the class selected or random, I mean, is it possible to see 6 Magnetos, 2 Blue Cyclops and 2 Red cyclops, then choose what you want, or 10 different mutant champion and choose one????
All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
The company have all the right to change content, if they think it needs to. But also is obliged to do it FAIR. How fair is future abyss players get reduced rewards (-15k 6* shards) for the same effort?
No more fair than the people that got to rank up new champs with 2015 gems after V1. Or no more fair that people that did abyss early dealt with bugged marvel, gulk, and IW. No more fair they also had the benefit of using aegon when he was bugged.
There are always pros and cons to doing stuff early in a game. This situation has both.
@Kabam Miike can you explain how this is even a fair change? Those who have not 100% it by next Thursday lose 15k 6* shards. While those who have get an extra 15k shards in essence....how’s that right to do to a majority of players and instead of you showing you catering to whales yet again?
It’s really a shame that Kabam thinks we are stupid. After 100% completion do you really think we’re gonna be happy if I chose a 6* Tech Nexus Crystal and my choices are Iron Patriot, Civil War and Punisher 2099. Give us a T5 selector instead. Something to actually help with progression in the game @Kabam Miike
Is this the way forward? Are you setting an example? If you explore events later then you risk getting less rewards totally.
As a player that haven’t explored abyss 100% this just makes me less motivated to play your game. Makes me less motivated to spend money. Makes me less motivated to get others to play the game.
This is so wrong to go down this path? It is not like 15k 6* shards are gonna break the game economy. And exploring the abyss is still a huge accomplishment.
Please reconsider this decision to remove rewards from an event.
This actually is a very good deal , pick one out of 10 champs of a class you choose . out of 10 gotta get something good. Think i'll save mines till the 4th !
I have already 100%'d Abyss a few weeks ago and I don't agree with this change. It was mentioned that those that 100%'d already would get the rewards as well - that's great but I don't think I deserve more rewards than someone that completes it after June 25th. Why take away the 15k shards from those summoners? Let them have the same rewards as those that finished it 'early'. You aren't taking 15k shards away from me, why take from them?
Also, while this is an interesting reward to add onto the exploration rewards, my generic 6* awake gem could have been likely used in another way pending the options that came thru this new crystal. Is that the trade off? We lose the option for more choice on the generic (if used already) vs losing 15k shards?
10 diferents champions of the class selected or random, I mean, is it possible to see 6 Magnetos, 2 Blue Cyclops and 2 Red cyclops, then choose what you want, or 10 different mutant champion and choose one????
They will be 10 Unique Champions. No chance of seeing the same Champion Twice.
All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
The company have all the right to change content, if they think it needs to. But also is obliged to do it FAIR. How fair is future abyss players get reduced rewards (-15k 6* shards) for the same effort?
No more fair than the people that got to rank up new champs with 2015 gems after V1. Or no more fair that people that did abyss early dealt with bugged marvel, gulk, and IW. No more fair they also had the benefit of using aegon when he was bugged.
There are always pros and cons to doing stuff early in a game. This situation has both.
That's why there was an outcry after most of those issues. And the way they handled all of them has been a mistake. Doesn't make sense that people who want to wait to do content or can't do it at that time should be penalized. No more than it should that people who have done the content before when it was bugged should not get compensation.
@Kabam Miike can you explain how this is even a fair change? Those who have not 100% it by next Thursday lose 15k 6* shards. While those who have get an extra 15k shards in essence....how’s that right to do to a majority of players and instead of you showing you catering to whales yet again?
Not to mention those that have 100% already know what t5cc they will have pulled and which class to target.
@Kabam Miike How will it be claimed for those who did 100% already? Will it be a message or will it just pop up? And what will be the expiry date on the massage if there is one cause a lot of people would like to save it for 4th of July.
People who aren't able to 100% Abyss aren't being that heavily penalized. The difference is legit 5k 6* shards, as small price to pay given that one can chose between ten Champions of a given class. Reducing the total amount of shards has clearly led to some outrage, but those who haven't attempted Abyss yet, over five months after it's been released, aren't likely to be close to completing, much less exploring the Abyss. For those that are close to exploring the Abyss, they have till June 25th to do so.
Hi There, Just a quick question. With this change, does that mean those who finished before the 25th end up with more rewards as they get the 15k 6* shards AND the selector.. or are you some how removing the 15k 6* shards from those who completed already.
I find it a little strange that those who finished before the 25th get more rewards than those coming afterward.. unless the overall difficulty has also been changed and just hasn't been mentioned yet..
Also, in the initial statement about the abyss exploration rewards.. there was only mention of adding to them.. nothing said about reducing them as well..
All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
The company have all the right to change content, if they think it needs to. But also is obliged to do it FAIR. How fair is future abyss players get reduced rewards (-15k 6* shards) for the same effort?
No more fair than the people that got to rank up new champs with 2015 gems after V1. Or no more fair that people that did abyss early dealt with bugged marvel, gulk, and IW. No more fair they also had the benefit of using aegon when he was bugged.
There are always pros and cons to doing stuff early in a game. This situation has both.
That's why there was an outcry after most of those issues. And the way they handled all of them has been a mistake. Doesn't make sense that people who want to wait to do content or can't do it at that time should be penalized. No more than it should that people who have done the content before when it was bugged should not get compensation.
And I agree that I don't see a ton of point in removing shards at all. Still, sometimes life just isn't fair.
This is still easily a net positive change. I really wish people had the chance to open their t5c crystals first but it's not like it was my decision to make. At least this way people can target a specific champ they want and will eventually get that t5c regardless of it being directly after finishing abyss or not.
People who aren't able to 100% Abyss aren't being that heavily penalized. The difference is legit 5k 6* shards, as small price to pay given that one can chose between ten Champions of a given class.
15k shards. Not 5. Since the people who have finished Abyss are getting the crystal as well, which is fair. Nothing wrong about that
No more fair than the people that got to rank up new champs with 2015 gems after V1. Or no more fair that people that did abyss early dealt with bugged marvel, gulk, and IW. No more fair they also had the benefit of using aegon when he was bugged. There are always pros and cons to doing stuff early in a game. This situation has both.
Do these unfair situations justify another unfair decision? I can’t see the logic behind that. It’s like saying “ it was always done unfair, why should be done fair now?”
Hi There, Just a quick question. With this change, does that mean those who finished before the 25th end up with more rewards as they get the 15k 6* shards AND the selector.. or are you some how removing the 15k 6* shards from those who completed already.
I find it a little strange that those who finished before the 25th get more rewards than those coming afterward.. unless the overall difficulty has also been changed and just hasn't been mentioned yet..
Also, in the initial statement about the abyss exploration rewards.. there was only mention of adding to them.. nothing said about reducing them as well..
They're not removing any from those that have completed it, I assume. They couldn't likely because they've been opened. Those going forward will get 30k, but with the added bonus of the Selector Crystal. Fair trade-off.
Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...
Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards
All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
That is absolutly unfair. You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?
That is ridicilous!
For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.
Seriously, what is the point of not letting us open the t5cc crystals first? And why take away the 15k shards? It seems like it’s always one step forward and three steps back with Kabam.
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You can fully explore the Abyss and still get nothing.
I expected T5CC selector as an update.
In my opinion this clearly shows that Kabam is simply not willing to give players a real value for their time and money.
I don't think it's worth waiting for their other announcements.
I think I'm finally done with this game.
There are better things to do in life.
There are always pros and cons to doing stuff early in a game. This situation has both.
This give us no incentive to 100% abyss
As a player that haven’t explored abyss 100% this just makes me less motivated to play your game. Makes me less motivated to spend money. Makes me less motivated to get others to play the game.
This is so wrong to go down this path? It is not like 15k 6* shards are gonna break the game economy. And exploring the abyss is still a huge accomplishment.
Please reconsider this decision to remove rewards from an event.
Also, while this is an interesting reward to add onto the exploration rewards, my generic 6* awake gem could have been likely used in another way pending the options that came thru this new crystal. Is that the trade off? We lose the option for more choice on the generic (if used already) vs losing 15k shards?
Reducing the total amount of shards has clearly led to some outrage, but those who haven't attempted Abyss yet, over five months after it's been released, aren't likely to be close to completing, much less exploring the Abyss. For those that are close to exploring the Abyss, they have till June 25th to do so.
Just a quick question. With this change, does that mean those who finished before the 25th end up with more rewards as they get the 15k 6* shards AND the selector.. or are you some how removing the 15k 6* shards from those who completed already.
I find it a little strange that those who finished before the 25th get more rewards than those coming afterward.. unless the overall difficulty has also been changed and just hasn't been mentioned yet..
Also, in the initial statement about the abyss exploration rewards.. there was only mention of adding to them.. nothing said about reducing them as well..
This is still easily a net positive change. I really wish people had the chance to open their t5c crystals first but it's not like it was my decision to make. At least this way people can target a specific champ they want and will eventually get that t5c regardless of it being directly after finishing abyss or not.
I can’t see the logic behind that. It’s like saying “ it was always done unfair, why should be done fair now?”