What about those who cant participate in showdown

Johnny_BLAZE19 · July 2020

Players all over the world really wanna participate in this thing and i get that you guys can't do this thing World wide but atleast do smthn good for us
P.S we are waiting for compensation
keep up the good work guys

Humpeldump · July 2020

The battlerealm is searching for summoners in some countrys to find the best player.. exluding this many countrys will just make the title look silly. «The world» is all countrys.

If you can make an account and purchase stuff its a shame to not be able to join a contest. Summoner showdown is a joke already imo.

Get Munash and other great players the opportunity to join

GinjabredMonsta · July 2020

Humpeldump · July 2020

I saw that but I cannot see how that should stop Kabam giving the title or rewards ingame to any summoner no matter where they live.

ItsDamien · July 2020

Humpeldump said:
I saw that but I cannot see how that should stop Kabam giving the title or rewards ingame to any summoner no matter where they live.

Because there are physical items that need to be shipped.

Doomsfist79 · July 2020

ItsDamien said:

Humpeldump said:
I saw that but I cannot see how that should stop Kabam giving the title or rewards ingame to any summoner no matter where they live.
Because there are physical items that need to be shipped.

And there are 54 countries in Africa.. kind of hard to believe it's difficult to ship to them all..

ItsDamien · July 2020

Doomsfist79 said:

ItsDamien said:

Humpeldump said:
I saw that but I cannot see how that should stop Kabam giving the title or rewards ingame to any summoner no matter where they live.
Because there are physical items that need to be shipped.
And there are 54 countries in Africa.. kind of hard to believe it's difficult to ship to them all..

It's more expensive, especially import costs which would have to be covered by either Kabam (which is what the player base would want to happen) or by the players receiving those items (which most players would not want to spend a huge amount of money on to receive).

Shipping anything worldwide is not as simple as you'd think, especially when a massive corporation isn't behind the shipping. It would be a loss for either Kabam or the player in particular, which Kabam wouldn't want to deal with.

Doomsfist79 · July 2020

ItsDamien said:

Doomsfist79 said:

ItsDamien said:

Humpeldump said:
I saw that but I cannot see how that should stop Kabam giving the title or rewards ingame to any summoner no matter where they live.
Because there are physical items that need to be shipped.
And there are 54 countries in Africa.. kind of hard to believe it's difficult to ship to them all..
It's more expensive, especially import costs which would have to be covered by either Kabam (which is what the player base would want to happen) or by the players receiving those items (which most players would not want to spend a huge amount of money on to receive).

Shipping anything worldwide is not as simple as you'd think, especially when a massive corporation isn't behind the shipping. It would be a loss for either Kabam or the player in particular, which Kabam wouldn't want to deal with.

Yea.. I could see shipping costs being prohibitive.. however.. that was not the reason specified..

ItsDamien · July 2020

Doomsfist79 said:

ItsDamien said:

Doomsfist79 said:

ItsDamien said:

Humpeldump said:
I saw that but I cannot see how that should stop Kabam giving the title or rewards ingame to any summoner no matter where they live.
Because there are physical items that need to be shipped.
And there are 54 countries in Africa.. kind of hard to believe it's difficult to ship to them all..
It's more expensive, especially import costs which would have to be covered by either Kabam (which is what the player base would want to happen) or by the players receiving those items (which most players would not want to spend a huge amount of money on to receive).

Shipping anything worldwide is not as simple as you'd think, especially when a massive corporation isn't behind the shipping. It would be a loss for either Kabam or the player in particular, which Kabam wouldn't want to deal with.
Yea.. I could see shipping costs being prohibitive.. however.. that was not the reason specified..

It says it right in the post "Shipping feasibility". Read first, comment after.

Humpeldump · July 2020

Its not the point. You can include all summoners but give ingame rewards instead. No need to ship a 6* or any other rank items

Voltolos · July 2020

Humpeldump said:
Its not the point. You can include all summoners but give ingame rewards instead. No need to ship a 6* or any other rank items

That's what the show up difficulty is for

Gildenlow · July 2020

I'm from perú and I don't really what would be the difference with chile or colombia which are actually elegible for participation.

ItsDamien · July 2020

Humpeldump said:
Its not the point. You can include all summoners but give ingame rewards instead. No need to ship a 6* or any other rank items

The point is that Kabam has to ship other items that you need to record yourself with. They're not going to pay an excessive amount of shipping to countries that charge an extortionate amount for import and shipping fees. It's not about the rewards, it's about what they NEED to send you for the competition as well.

(needed to edit this pretty badly after rereading.)

ItsDamien · July 2020

Gildenlow said:
I'm from perú and I don't really what would be the difference with chile or colombia which are actually elegible for participation.

Different competition laws. Contact your government and ask them to change them if you're not happy.

Colinwhitworth69 · July 2020

Global economy, meet local autonomy.

Gildenlow · July 2020

ItsDamien said:

Gildenlow said:
I'm from perú and I don't really what would be the difference with chile or colombia which are actually elegible for participation.

Different competition laws. Contact your government and ask them to change them if you're not happy.

Not that i'm not happy exactly, I'm not that good anyway xD

Just wondering, but I will call them as you so madly suggest.

ItsDamien · July 2020

Gildenlow said:

ItsDamien said:

Gildenlow said:
I'm from perú and I don't really what would be the difference with chile or colombia which are actually elegible for participation.

Different competition laws. Contact your government and ask them to change them if you're not happy.
Not that i'm not happy exactly, I'm not that good anyway xD

Just wondering, but I will call them as you so madly suggest.

Who knows, you might make a change in your country for the better. That'd be much cooler than competing for virtual items in a mobile game.

ShibbyMcDude · July 2020

ItsDamien said:

Humpeldump said:
Its not the point. You can include all summoners but give ingame rewards instead. No need to ship a 6* or any other rank items
The point is that Kabam has to ship other items that you need to record yourself with. They're not going to pay an excessive amount of shipping to countries that charge an extortionate amount for import and shipping fees. It's not about the rewards, it's about what they NEED to send you for the competition as well.

(needed to edit this pretty badly after rereading.)

I do understand your point. But when a company makes over 80.000 dollars each day, and millions of dollars on July 4th, shipping costs of a maximum
Of 3 streaming sets can’t be the issue. It will cost them around 4.000 - 5.000 dollars. This is 5-6% if their daily revenue.

It shouldn’t be a problem but I see that Kabam states it as a problem.

ItsDamien · July 2020

ShibbyMcDude said:

ItsDamien said:

Humpeldump said:
Its not the point. You can include all summoners but give ingame rewards instead. No need to ship a 6* or any other rank items
The point is that Kabam has to ship other items that you need to record yourself with. They're not going to pay an excessive amount of shipping to countries that charge an extortionate amount for import and shipping fees. It's not about the rewards, it's about what they NEED to send you for the competition as well.

(needed to edit this pretty badly after rereading.)
I do understand your point. But when a company makes over 80.000 dollars each day, and millions of dollars on July 4th, shipping costs of a maximum
Of 3 streaming sets can’t be the issue. It will cost them around 4.000 - 5.000 dollars. This is 5-6% if their daily revenue.

It shouldn’t be a problem but I see that Kabam states it as a problem.

Yes. And that 5000 - 6000 is then forwarded to the recipient in the form of import costs. When shipping anything internationally, there are the shipping fees from the side sending the goods, and the import fees from the side receiving the goods. In some places you can circumvent that cost, but in a lot of countries they will not allow the import fees to be wavered. So unless you would be willing to spend out a mass amount of money to receive any particular item then you can start to see where issues arrive.

It's not just the cost on Kabams end. It's the cost those receiving would also have to pay. Its complicated and unnecessary for both Kabam, and the players.

Kabam Boo · July 2020

Hey folks!

We are absolutely thrilled to see so much interest in our event! For now, we apologise for any inconvenience but PLEASE know that your feedback has been duly noted!

For additional information, please check out our forum post on the event: https://playcontestofchampions.com/about-summoner-showdown-2020-and-faq/

Cheerio!

DNA3000 · July 2020

Humpeldump said:
I saw that but I cannot see how that should stop Kabam giving the title or rewards ingame to any summoner no matter where they live.

There are two reasons why a country or region might be excluded here. The first is that there are requirements for the higher tiers of competition that will involve shipping a setup to allow the competition to be either streamed or recorded (since having everyone show up physically somewhere like the last one is not possible these days). This may involve cost, but it can also involve the time-sensitive nature of this. If it takes too long or is too difficult to ship reliably, Kabam doesn't want to be responsible for a shipping problem to disrupt the competition.

The other reason is one that has been discussed in the past involving competitions of this kind. Many places have special laws that govern competitions or contests like this, and they can be complex and difficult to honor. Some places require you to register your contest with the government ahead of time and get approval which can take a while, some have special bonding requirements, some straight up make it illegal to do certain things that are perfectly fine elsewhere. Something trivial like Kabam randomly picking a contestant when there's a tie for a spot can make the entire thing illegal in some places.

So it isn't trivial to make a contest like this globally viable.

ShibbyMcDude · July 2020

ItsDamien said:

ShibbyMcDude said:

ItsDamien said:

Humpeldump said:
Its not the point. You can include all summoners but give ingame rewards instead. No need to ship a 6* or any other rank items
The point is that Kabam has to ship other items that you need to record yourself with. They're not going to pay an excessive amount of shipping to countries that charge an extortionate amount for import and shipping fees. It's not about the rewards, it's about what they NEED to send you for the competition as well.

(needed to edit this pretty badly after rereading.)
I do understand your point. But when a company makes over 80.000 dollars each day, and millions of dollars on July 4th, shipping costs of a maximum
Of 3 streaming sets can’t be the issue. It will cost them around 4.000 - 5.000 dollars. This is 5-6% if their daily revenue.

It shouldn’t be a problem but I see that Kabam states it as a problem.
Yes. And that 5000 - 6000 is then forwarded to the recipient in the form of import costs. When shipping anything internationally, there are the shipping fees from the side sending the goods, and the import fees from the side receiving the goods. In some places you can circumvent that cost, but in a lot of countries they will not allow the import fees to be wavered. So unless you would be willing to spend out a mass amount of money to receive any particular item then you can start to see where issues arrive.

It's not just the cost on Kabams end. It's the cost those receiving would also have to pay. Its complicated and unnecessary for both Kabam, and the players.

Very insightful, thanks

!

Deadlygamer98 · July 2020

Kabam Boo said:
Hey folks!

We are absolutely thrilled to see so much interest in our event! For now, we apologise for any inconvenience but PLEASE know that your feedback has been duly noted!

For additional information, please check out our forum post on the event: https://playcontestofchampions.com/about-summoner-showdown-2020-and-faq/

Cheerio!

AHH!!! You scared me there.

Ezekiel2517 · July 2020

This blá-blá-blá about fees and etc sounds like an excuse. I live in a country that has abusive import fees, and I can still buy collectibles from Rockstar, 2k (Bioshock), etc. Kabam will not ship millions of items to multiple players.

Buttehrs · July 2020

Alot of what is being shipped is the equipment to record yourself just like a youtuber. they're essentially giving you a home studio. It's worth minimum of 4 to 5k US dollars.

Genidiamin · July 2020

What exactly are the competition and shipping laws that Have led to the exclusion of several countries including all African nations?

I think you have to be more transparent to the community and players from countries that are excluded from the showdown...

Opening the show up to all countries does not translate to a fair process since countries allowed to participate in the showdown are also able to participate in the show up

Notsavage19 · July 2020

Y'all really didn't read the whole post did y'all?

Crcrcrc · July 2020

There are import costs that Kabam isn’t going to pay. Do research before complaining

Kabam Miike · July 2020

Competition laws differ all over the world, and unfortunately, there is not just one that makes things difficult. We've worked to include as many areas as possible, but that doesn't mean that we are able to include them all. Also, please keep in mind that this is the first time that we've done something like this, and there will be growing pains and lessons to carry forward.

Notsavage19 · July 2020

You have the Show-Up rewards.

ItsDamien · July 2020

They are doing something else. There's an event along side the Showdown which people can get shards and gold from. Read the full information available first.

What about those who cant participate in showdown

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