How will war rating be affected with this war not counting

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• TyEdge Member Posts: 3,130 ★★★★★

  August 2022 edited August 2022

  Follow up - I understand that this war doesn’t count for season scoring. Does it count towards the 4 required for participation or not? (I assume not, hence the reduction)

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• Total_Domin01 Member Posts: 1,015 ★★★★

  August 2022

  Not

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• Kabam Jax Member, Moderator Moderator › Posts: 1,718 ★★★★★

  August 2022

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

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• pseudosane Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 4,008 Guardian

  August 2022

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

  how is this fair?

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• Wozzle007 Member Posts: 1,057 ★★★★★

  August 2022

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

  My Alliance has absolutely lost this war. I don’t think the War rating will impact us over the course of the season as we’re in the middle of tiers. But for Alliances that are relegated a tier due to a loss that doesn’t count, doesn’t seem at all fair. Given how often specific wars end up not counting in an AW season, isn’t it about time the game was coded so if a war doesn’t count the War Rating doesn’t change. This seems to happen almost every season.

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• Fenico Member Posts: 307 ★★★

  August 2022

  It would be nice to know this information sooner than 1 hour before end of attack phase.

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• DrZola Member Posts: 9,163 ★★★★★

  August 2022 edited August 2022

  This is a poor and untimely decision.
  
  Dr. Zola

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• Grub Member Posts: 258 ★★★

  August 2022

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

  So war will start just like nothing is wrong with the global and game crashes huh? You guys realize that a single death is usually the deciding factor in masters wars. What’s the rush? How about fixing the game so we don’t keep wasting our time and effort. You went an offseason with the global not working correctly and whatever you did to fix it, clearly messed up something.
  
  Then you tell us a war won’t count and less then 24 hours later you say it will count towards war rating……complete lie.
  

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• Kabam Miike Moderator Moderator › Posts: 8,269

  August 2022

  Grub said:

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

  So war will start just like nothing is wrong with the global and game crashes huh? You guys realize that a single death is usually the deciding factor in masters wars. What’s the rush? How about fixing the game so we don’t keep wasting our time and effort. You went an offseason with the global not working correctly and whatever you did to fix it, clearly messed up something.
  
  Then you tell us a war won’t count and less then 24 hours later you say it will count towards war rating……complete lie.
  

  I am also not in a rush to start this Season without addressing the issues. We're looking into it and trying to get a fix in place ASAP. If we can't, we'll have to reassess the season start.
  
  That said, we said that the War wouldn't count towards the Season, but didn't mention the War Rating part. That was an oversight on our part.

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• Xygon Member Posts: 123 ★

  August 2022

  Undo this. Communicating that it doesn’t count, then after it matters, saying that it does (partially) is a big deal!

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• BitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

  August 2022

  Kabam Miike said:

  Grub said:

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

  So war will start just like nothing is wrong with the global and game crashes huh? You guys realize that a single death is usually the deciding factor in masters wars. What’s the rush? How about fixing the game so we don’t keep wasting our time and effort. You went an offseason with the global not working correctly and whatever you did to fix it, clearly messed up something.
  
  Then you tell us a war won’t count and less then 24 hours later you say it will count towards war rating……complete lie.
  

  I am also not in a rush to start this Season without addressing the issues. We're looking into it and trying to get a fix in place ASAP. If we can't, we'll have to reassess the season start.
  
  That said, we said that the War wouldn't count towards the Season, but didn't mention the War Rating part. That was an oversight on our part.

  The obvious issue that could come out of this is postponing the war in the middle of the next one’s attack. If that happens you can imagine the items and boosts already having been used.
  
  I realise it’s not your decision whether to start the season, but is it not possibly wiser to give yourself more than a day to fix all the issues? Instead of postponing for one day 7 times, postpone for a week. At worst, you fix it early and can announce the season starting sooner. Plus, then you save everyone’s items and stress at will it/won’t it be starting

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• Wozzle007 Member Posts: 1,057 ★★★★★

  August 2022

  Kabam Miike said:

  Grub said:

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

  So war will start just like nothing is wrong with the global and game crashes huh? You guys realize that a single death is usually the deciding factor in masters wars. What’s the rush? How about fixing the game so we don’t keep wasting our time and effort. You went an offseason with the global not working correctly and whatever you did to fix it, clearly messed up something.
  
  Then you tell us a war won’t count and less then 24 hours later you say it will count towards war rating……complete lie.
  

  I am also not in a rush to start this Season without addressing the issues. We're looking into it and trying to get a fix in place ASAP. If we can't, we'll have to reassess the season start.
  
  That said, we said that the War wouldn't count towards the Season, but didn't mention the War Rating part. That was an oversight on our part.

  It was a pretty big oversight! Everyone who drops a tier will have their multiplier effected. That isn’t a small deal. It’s a big deal when it comes to a competitive game mode and shouldn’t just be seen a “oh whoops” it’s was simple oversight moment. I genuinely don’t understand how at season 36 you can’t freeze ratings. Season 36! Wars being cancelled are not a new phenomenon.

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• DrZola Member Posts: 9,163 ★★★★★

  August 2022

  BitterSteel said:

  Kabam Miike said:

  Grub said:

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

  So war will start just like nothing is wrong with the global and game crashes huh? You guys realize that a single death is usually the deciding factor in masters wars. What’s the rush? How about fixing the game so we don’t keep wasting our time and effort. You went an offseason with the global not working correctly and whatever you did to fix it, clearly messed up something.
  
  Then you tell us a war won’t count and less then 24 hours later you say it will count towards war rating……complete lie.
  

  I am also not in a rush to start this Season without addressing the issues. We're looking into it and trying to get a fix in place ASAP. If we can't, we'll have to reassess the season start.
  
  That said, we said that the War wouldn't count towards the Season, but didn't mention the War Rating part. That was an oversight on our part.

  The obvious issue that could come out of this is postponing the war in the middle of the next one’s attack. If that happens you can imagine the items and boosts already having been used.
  
  I realise it’s not your decision whether to start the season, but is it not possibly wiser to give yourself more than a day to fix all the issues? Instead of postponing for one day 7 times, postpone for a week. At worst, you fix it early and can announce the season starting sooner. Plus, then you save everyone’s items and stress at will it/won’t it be starting

  This is a fair and reasonable approach.
  
  Dr. Zola

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• Joeqw Member Posts: 56 ★

  August 2022

  Yeah, it’s an oversight. Your company messes up both the game and communication and the players get to have the consequences. Off season wars never count for war rating in upper tiers, but this one does? Well if we knew that we would have approached it differently.

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• BinkPlayz Member Posts: 99 ★★

  August 2022

  Kabam Miike said:

  Grub said:

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

  So war will start just like nothing is wrong with the global and game crashes huh? You guys realize that a single death is usually the deciding factor in masters wars. What’s the rush? How about fixing the game so we don’t keep wasting our time and effort. You went an offseason with the global not working correctly and whatever you did to fix it, clearly messed up something.
  
  Then you tell us a war won’t count and less then 24 hours later you say it will count towards war rating……complete lie.
  

  I am also not in a rush to start this Season without addressing the issues. We're looking into it and trying to get a fix in place ASAP. If we can't, we'll have to reassess the season start.
  
  That said, we said that the War wouldn't count towards the Season, but didn't mention the War Rating part. That was an oversight on our part.

  Nah you can't seriously be telling us war doesn't count, let everyone throw a war that doesn't count since it has 0 impact, but actually the next day it impacts your rating which in turn impacts your season ranking down the line

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• GabeZRod Member Posts: 74 ★★

  August 2022 edited August 2022

  @Kabam Miike you can’t claim this war doesn’t count if war rating is impacted. That quite literally affects the outcome of the season

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• Joeqw Member Posts: 56 ★

  August 2022

  Now I have to convince my guys to spend loyalty on this garbage so we can compete. Those are gonna be fun conversations

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• pseudosane Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 4,008 Guardian

  August 2022

  A good faith fix is to postpone the start by one week, return the ratings and fix all the bugs before starting the season.

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• azundu Member Posts: 79 ★

  August 2022

  Kabam Miike said:

  Grub said:

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thanks for the inquires, Summoners!
  
  Even though the false-start war won't count to the season, it will impact War Rating as normal.
  
  And this war will not count towards the four required.

  So war will start just like nothing is wrong with the global and game crashes huh? You guys realize that a single death is usually the deciding factor in masters wars. What’s the rush? How about fixing the game so we don’t keep wasting our time and effort. You went an offseason with the global not working correctly and whatever you did to fix it, clearly messed up something.
  
  Then you tell us a war won’t count and less then 24 hours later you say it will count towards war rating……complete lie.
  

  I am also not in a rush to start this Season without addressing the issues. We're looking into it and trying to get a fix in place ASAP. If we can't, we'll have to reassess the season start.
  
  That said, we said that the War wouldn't count towards the Season, but didn't mention the War Rating part. That was an oversight on our part.

  Really isn’t acceptable .
  
  Getting a fix ASAP won’t cover up for failings in communication going with the easiest and obvious solution of delaying AW and letting the player base know .
  
  There has been a pretty big domino effect with the bugs .
  
  1) Higher tier alliance would have swapped masteries cost units . Crashes have caused people to revive .
  
  2) player adopted a lax attitude to war after being the told war won’t count . Now the player have to be to one to deal with a drop in war rating or an undeserved increase in rating . Alliance will have moved tiers due to this which may affect standings at the end of the season .
  
  
  At the end of the day , you guys have to realise that it is the player base who will bear the cost both financially and emotionally.
  
  Good communication is the only way of mitigating that especially where players are mostly saying the same thing .
  
  Not sure if you went to a hospital and received this sort of treatment the current player base are getting you will be on the phone to your lawyers the next day .

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• Thanksk Member Posts: 11 ★

  August 2022

  Yeah we just fell out of t1 because of this thanks for nothing and for always screwing the players over

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  August 2022

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• Noise72 Member Posts: 337 ★★★

  August 2022

  Im sorry but i don’t see any other way to interpret this besides rating not counting. How else would a war not count towards the season???
  
  Theres no oversight here. I feel you are just plain lying to us at this point. Please reset ratings/tiers from this war ASAP. Season 36 cannot start until this is fixed.
  
  

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• Kabam Miike Moderator Moderator › Posts: 8,269

  August 2022

  Noise72 said:

  Im sorry but i don’t see any other way to interpret this besides rating not counting. How else would a war not count towards the season???
  
  Theres no oversight here. I feel you are just plain lying to us at this point. Please reset ratings/tiers from this war ASAP. Season 36 cannot start until this is fixed.
  
  

  War Rating and Season Score are two completely different things, but I can see how they would be conflated. The Goal here was ONLY to mention the Season, and not War Rating, but that should have been explicit.

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• Tx_Quack_Attack6589 Member Posts: 686 ★★★★

  August 2022

  War rating affects possible points for the rest of the season, they go hand in hand.

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• AndyBro59 Member Posts: 10 ★

  August 2022

  In the off season the war ratings did not move for us so don't see how they are completely 2 different things
  

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• GabeZRod Member Posts: 74 ★★

  August 2022

  Kabam Miike said:

  Noise72 said:

  Im sorry but i don’t see any other way to interpret this besides rating not counting. How else would a war not count towards the season???
  
  Theres no oversight here. I feel you are just plain lying to us at this point. Please reset ratings/tiers from this war ASAP. Season 36 cannot start until this is fixed.
  
  

  War Rating and Season Score are two completely different things, but I can see how they would be conflated. The Goal here was ONLY to mention the Season, and not War Rating, but that should have been explicit.

  War rating impacts season score. If they relate to each other then they aren’t two completely different things. They aren’t mutually exclusive. Tell me otherwise and I’ll accept the outcome

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• LilMaddogHT Member Posts: 1,208 ★★★★

  August 2022

  Slowing down, extending the off-season & postponing S36 until issues are confirmed fixed. It's more than reasonable to do this. I don't understand the purpose to rush it as multiple cascading issues like this make Alliance War extremely frustrating for those that are trying to have fun and compete - investing real time to plan & coordinate for success.

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• frodo2377 Member Posts: 315 ★★★

  August 2022

  At this point season 36 should be scrapped and restarted once the major issues have been resolved. I agree with BitterSteel. Give yourselves a week to get things sorted. If it needs to be delayed further in order to ensure a smooth start to the season....so be it. I think most players would be sympathetic to that as opposed to what we're seeing now.

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• GroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,633 ★★★★★

  August 2022

  GabeZRod said:

  Kabam Miike said:

  Noise72 said:

  Im sorry but i don’t see any other way to interpret this besides rating not counting. How else would a war not count towards the season???
  
  Theres no oversight here. I feel you are just plain lying to us at this point. Please reset ratings/tiers from this war ASAP. Season 36 cannot start until this is fixed.
  
  

  War Rating and Season Score are two completely different things, but I can see how they would be conflated. The Goal here was ONLY to mention the Season, and not War Rating, but that should have been explicit.

  War rating impacts season score. If they relate to each other then they aren’t two completely different things. They aren’t mutually exclusive. Tell me otherwise and I’ll accept the outcome

  How is it reasonable to adjust Wars for Alliances that weren't affected?

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• GroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,633 ★★★★★

  August 2022

  Not making it count towards the end is reasonable. The War Rating is a different mechanic to adjust, and it leads to more problems.

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