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Re: This BG meta is terrible
They did at the start. Basically just a shrug and a deal with it
Low key excited about the new may spending event, but not for the reason you think
Re: The impact of collectives and ascension
I get WHY they’re doing this (money, like always), but there does need to be some sort of competitive mode that evens the playing field and is fully skill based. Kabam needs to figure that out because there has to be something for all players to “chase” that feels fair.
R5 Venom the Duck Feels Illegal and Wrong
I took him into Realm of Legends to test him out for my own amusement, but when I saw that he took down Juggernaut in 14 seconds, I decided that I needed to start recording what was happening.

Spoiler alert: he takes down other ROL champs just as fast.
Afterward, I took him into the Labyrinth to see what he could do there, and he could do marvelous things in there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRU3J04CivgSo, yeah. This was a fun rank-up.
Re: The impact of collectives and ascension
i don't get it either.
a permanent benefit of 2 ascension levels (16%), assuming they have a 2 ascension lead at all times, a ~3-5% advantage in relics, and ~6%-12% in collectives can mean a 25-30% advantage.
i get that whales always had an advantage, but it was never 25%+, it never lasted a year, and for the longest time, equal ranks always meant equal performance.
for the longest time, players wrongly complained about the f2p gap but that never made sense because kabam always narrowed the gap quickly into it's designs but for the first time ever collectives and ascension make that gap larger and permanent.
i don't see a good reason to compete anymore if you're not a whale.
Re: This BG meta is terrible
High time to just remove losing a medal. If you want to go back to 1 medal wins whatever, but stop punishing players for the loss, let them just keep moving forward. GC is the place they can get punished over and over again and go nowhere, thats fine. Let them enjoy something about VT.
Re: This BG meta is terrible
Correct. I’ve lost to opponents with significantly lower prestige.
You play well, beat a defender in less than a minute and have 30-50% more health remaining than your opponent but lose because they won a few seconds faster.
Designing this meta should be a fireable offense.
Dr. Zola
Re: This BG meta is terrible
Anyone notice they wouldn’t address the BG issues in the live stream today.
The impact of collectives and ascension
If the starting point is "we've balanced this content around megawhale stats and there's no net positive here until you dig yourself out", then what's the benefit to collectives? The game's just harder...
If it's designed around the average, and your account is average, you don't notice any benefits...
And if your account is below average then it's net negative until you catch up. Is that the point of collectives? To incentivize progressing accounts?
And that's just PvE content.
In PVP, if you add ascension on top of this, the difficulty is even greater and permanent because it might be a year before you get your chance at ascension, and by the time that happens whales will probably move on to a4s as you get your a2.
I'm just wildly speculating but collectives don't seem like a major net positive (only a carrot on a stick) and ascension has only widened the gap in PvP modes.
Re: The impact of collectives and ascension
everything that I have seen is basically “time to give whales an even bigger advantage”
There’s just no catching up or staying competitive. Everyone else is cooked. The milking of the top spenders to the detriment of all other game balance continues unabated.