2015 rank up gems [Merged Threads]

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  • Midknight007Midknight007 Member Posts: 769 ★★★
    Hot off the press, Profhoff released a new video.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=duufjOXw7nQ
  • Midknight007Midknight007 Member Posts: 769 ★★★
    Rektor wrote: »
    Profhoff spoke on the issue:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DTx_A89hpK0

    I disagree with his points, but worth listening to.

    Worth listening to in the sense that actually hearing someone support this garbage outloud confirms how indefensible it actually is.

    He just released a new vid about the issue with an evolved opinion.
  • Epsilon3Epsilon3 Member Posts: 1,138 ★★★
    The biggest problem is that this isn’t even an interaction issue

    Back when Drax was “bugged” anyone with him could use the bug

    Same with Killmonger

    Same with Archangel (albeit considering this was used in LOL I’m skeptical)

    But aside from “bugging out” through content they didn’t technically get undeserved rewards or resources. They still had to fight and invest with those champions.

    However this kinda falls into that weird Grey Area where “technically you got a War Dungeon Crystal… except you got the 3rd generation instead of the vastly better 2nd version of the same crystal”

    “Same” reward but a much better variant (OH I GET IT!) of that reward
  • RektorRektor Member Posts: 678 ★★★
    edited November 2018
    Same rewards for completing the same content. Really that simple. If you disagree then you or your alliance benefitted from it directly.

  • EndymioNEndymioN Member Posts: 64
    yeah i probably would change my oppinion too if i had those downvotes Profhoff, funny thing is no one will be satisfied with the resolution, kabam flat out ignores the player base but still during the weekend has time to make some new money grab deals...
  • RektorRektor Member Posts: 678 ★★★
    EndymioN wrote: »
    yeah i probably would change my oppinion too if i had those downvotes Profhoff, funny thing is no one will be satisfied with the resolution, kabam flat out ignores the player base but still during the weekend has time to make some new money grab deals...

    You mean scumbags who purposely exploited a bug will be upset if kabam let’s everyone else exploit it too?

    Or they’ll be upset if kabam fixes their mistake and gives them the reward they were supposed to get.. that they all knew was supposed to be for 2015 only?

    I’m confused.
  • EndymioNEndymioN Member Posts: 64
    frankly looks like it will stay the way it is now so... guess exploiters will be happy? and community pissed? :neutral:
  • PaytoPlayPaytoPlay Member Posts: 762 ★★★
    edited November 2018
    The longer they prolong this the worse it will be... those new maxed champs are probably hard at work in AW to get an edge towards end of season 5 or working the boosted prestige in AQ
  • RektorRektor Member Posts: 678 ★★★
    EndymioN wrote: »
    frankly looks like it will stay the way it is now so... guess exploiters will be happy? and community pissed? :neutral:

    Boss man at kabam didn’t want to deal with this on the weekend so he made a rush call and forced that poor mod to do the dirty work of letting us know.. guy probably cringed as he typed it bc he knows the shtstorm that was coming.

    Nothing’s gonna happen until the boss man gets back to the office. Mods ignoring the thread bc they don’t have the authority to make a decision. Not their fault.
  • Vicious_DeliciousVicious_Delicious Member Posts: 33
    Exploiting a bug is OK now? @Kabam Lyra @Kabam Miike
  • The_Savage_AncientThe_Savage_Ancient Member Posts: 134
    This is unfair. I believe Kabam is taking the wrong approach. Exploiting a bug should not be allowed at any cost. Anyone doing a rank up does it very much "knowingly" and is therefore deliberately exploiting a bug. The list of 2015 had been disclosed much prior and whoever used a rank up gem on newer champs would have anyways known how new they were in the contest.
  • razorjack10razorjack10 Member Posts: 42
    Exploiting a bug is OK now? @Kabam Lyra @Kabam Miike

    Exploiting a bug is ok for u if u r spending lot of money on this game and lots of whales are exploiting it too. If thats not the case then obviously u will be punished for exploiting a bug.
  • AkigothampunkAkigothampunk Member Posts: 17
    Everyone needs to have same rewards for the completion of new quests in the game, some people were able to complete the variant diffculty and get the rank up tickets which were not fixed to be able to be used on only 2015 champs used on other champs like domino,korg etc,either their ranked up champs should be ranked down or others get the rank up gems for any champ(other than 2015)as well.It will be unfair if they get to keep ranked up champs using the rank up tickets and we get the rank up tickets for only 2015 champs
  • Horror_punkHorror_punk Member Posts: 1,058 ★★★★
    On one hand there are loyal players
    And on other hand there are cheaters and exploited bug users

    Kabam you always disappoint the loyal community
    From alliance wars piloting to exploiting the bug you guys always support the wrong persons

    Further you not giving a fix for Android 6.0.1 Devices for unending loading screens

    I don't know which direction is game going but i definitely know that this is not a right direction

    #RIP-Justice
  • razorjack10razorjack10 Member Posts: 42
    On one hand there are loyal players
    And on other hand there are cheaters and exploited bug users

    Kabam you always disappoint the loyal community
    From alliance wars piloting to exploiting the bug you guys always support the wrong persons

    Further you not giving a fix for Android 6.0.1 Devices for unending loading screens

    I don't know which direction is game going but i definitely know that this is not a right direction

    #RIP-Justice

    Kabam supports players that spend money.. doesnt matter that player is cheating or loyal.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,481 ★★★★★
    As much as people feel strongly about this, doing the Quest and using the Resources earned is not exploiting a bug. Some may have had knowledge and finished because of this, but others didn't. It's not the same as if they continued to do the Quest and farmed more than their share. It's within the normal realm of doing the Quest. That's where it's tricky. Do I think some took advantage of it? Absolutely. No question. However, you can't universally say everyone who used it was taking advantage of it. Unless you can prove everyone had knowledge, and you can't, then you can't say they exploited anything. Unfortunately, the people who took advantage of it found a window. They decided to allow them to keep it. If that's their decision, confirmed by Moderation, then I don't see them going back this long after the fact.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,481 ★★★★★
    I know it's probably not what people want to hear, but someone has to be the voice of reason. It's not an exploit because it's within the normal parameters of gameplay. You have to prove that people were exploiting it with knowledge. It's not enough that we know so-and-so was spreading it on Line, or this one and that one told all their Ally mates and they ran to the chance. You have to prove it using the internal data, and the only thing that shows is people completed the Quest and used their share of the Items as they received them. So how do you differentiate between people who knew and didn't? You can't.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,481 ★★★★★
    edited November 2018
    MrMaat wrote: »
    it was an unintended bug.
    that gives a small selection of players a huge benifit.
    that totally destroys balance amongst similar tiered players.

    the ramifications that this has for top tier wars is huge.
    you will have some players now with a huge advantage in wars over others.

    the only way that this can be fair is for kabam to make it even for everyone.

    there is two options.

    Rank down the champions that were rank incorrectly
    or
    Change the quest rewards to Normal gems so everyone can do the same.

    It needs to be fair and balanced.
    kabam scream about GAME BALANCE and FAIRNESS all the time.

    the way they have played this goes against both of those.

    i am not asking for bans on these people. just fairness across the player base.
    THE SAME REWARDS FOR EVERY PLAYER.
    Player X does something and gets the same as player Y and the same as player Z.
    SIMPLE.

    Huge advantage in Top Tier Wars? Right, because we all know the Top Tier wouldn't have access to R4 some Champs.
    Let's be honest, they could do it without the Gems.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,481 ★★★★★
    Everyone has the right to be upset. The reactions aren't proportionate to the situation, though. It was a bug. They took responsibility, fixed it, and allowed people to keep what they used as a part of taking responsibility. Pages and pages of people upset because a handful of people got to use the Gems before they were fixed.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,481 ★★★★★
    I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I just think it's becoming overboard. Does it suck? Sure. It's not game-breaking.
  • razorjack10razorjack10 Member Posts: 42
    Fair option is to reverse rank up. Whats so difficult in that if kabam previously did it during the crystal issue.
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