Corvus Glave & Ebony Maw is a problem

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  • Lovejoy72Lovejoy72 Member Posts: 1,858 ★★★★
    edited April 2019
    Didn’t even think of the arena implications
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★

    I’m not going to disagree with you @GroundedWisdom, I’m just going to point out that you still WONT answer questions. Progress in this game is very important, players have different bottlenecks, different experiences, different hurdles they are directly facing. I’m saying this hurdle (to be absolutely specific: auto-loss matchups of champs at comparable PI) are bad for all players and only good for Kabam. If this becomes popular it will ruin all forms of AW, low tier (like you and @Drooped2) and high tier.

    No. The subject of whether or not I have a 6* has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about here. You saw me comment on it in another Thread, and now you're trying to use it as some kind of personal ammo. You seem to think this is my first time here. Evidence would suggest otherwise.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    mike867 said:

    @GroundedWisdom


    Lets see Corvus do this VS Maw at same PI and wait for next post....

    I didn't say anything about SW against him. I said Mephisto.
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  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★
    Yeah, I totally agree. MS at comparable PI got him down by a 3rd in first fight. So 2 revives and full healing could get him down with just MS. The point @mike867 and I are making is that Corvus can’t take out EM with 1000 revives. @GroundedWisdom @Drooped2
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★

    Yeah, I totally agree. MS at comparable PI got him down by a 3rd in first fight. So 2 revives and full healing could get him down with just MS. The point @mike867 and I are making is that Corvus can’t take out EM with 1000 revives. @GroundedWisdom @Drooped2

    Do you know that? Has he been released? Have you tested him in the Arena using other methods besides starting with a Light? No. It's unlikely they would introduce a Champ that you literally can't take down in an Arena setting.
    Further to that, you wouldn't likely go into a Class Disadvantage Fight in the Arena.
    It's one Champ among many, many others. Corvus can't be used for everything, just like others can't be used for everything. I don't know how many years it has to be reiterated, but there is no such thing as a God Tier that will dominate the entire game. There are balances. You would think people would gather that after 12.0, yet here we are whenever something is introduced to balance and counter someone. Some Champs will be less effective against some Champs. Use others.
  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★
    These trolls twist arguments so much, lol. I feel like I’m a troll because I stick to one TRUE, OBVIOUS point and they have gone on so many tangents and I still feel I have to defend myself.

    No one said anything about SW 😂😭😂😭😂😭💀💀💀I’m dead
  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★
    @mike867 I think we got them man, thanks for the proof, i was too lazy to provide it.

    I’m still in stitches about the SW commen💀💀💀
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  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★

    If you're dead set on using only corvus no matter who you're fighting/where, and you will bring only him and you refuse to use anyone else against Maw, you could actually just do 1 hit light intercepts which will never crit and solo him.

    Yeah in a 3 min AW fight... maybe in Tier 20... is this an actual point you are trying to make💀 Am I in the twilight zone????
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★

    @mike867 I think we got them man, thanks for the proof, i was too lazy to provide it.

    I’m still in stitches about the SW commen💀💀💀

    You're not even paying attention. I talked to the OP about using Mephisto against HT, not SW. Are you even interested in having this conversation, or are you just trying to stir things up? If you are, follow along.
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,103 ★★★★★

    If you're dead set on using only corvus no matter who you're fighting/where, and you will bring only him and you refuse to use anyone else against Maw, you could actually just do 1 hit light intercepts which will never crit and solo him.

    Yeah in a 3 min AW fight... maybe in Tier 20... is this an actual point you are trying to make💀 Am I in the twilight zone????
    But if you're talking about AW, corvus can't kill thing for example either. When we faced thing on power shield/node 43 i had to rank specific champs to r4 just to fight him haha
  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★

    Yeah, I totally agree. MS at comparable PI got him down by a 3rd in first fight. So 2 revives and full healing could get him down with just MS. The point @mike867 and I are making is that Corvus can’t take out EM with 1000 revives. @GroundedWisdom @Drooped2

    Do you know that? Has he been released? Have you tested him in the Arena using other methods besides starting with a Light? No. It's unlikely they would introduce a Champ that you literally can't take down in an Arena setting.
    Further to that, you wouldn't likely go into a Class Disadvantage Fight in the Arena.
    It's one Champ among many, many others. Corvus can't be used for everything, just like others can't be used for everything. I don't know how many years it has to be reiterated, but there is no such thing as a God Tier that will dominate the entire game. There are balances. You would think people would gather that after 12.0, yet here we are whenever something is introduced to balance and counter someone. Some Champs will be less effective against some Champs. Use others.
    Still completely avoiding or TRYING to twist my VERY clear and simple point. Not today Satan.

    Copy/paste:
    You are missing my point. If 2 champs at the same PI are fighting, neither one should be an auto-win... even if there are a million champs to choose from.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Ok I'm done talking to you. You're just spamming the same thing over and over, and making digs. I tried to have a reasonable conversation with you, but you're just going on your own narrative.
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    mike867 said:

    @mike867 I think we got them man, thanks for the proof, i was too lazy to provide it.

    I’m still in stitches about the SW commen💀💀💀

    You're not even paying attention. I talked to the OP about using Mephisto against HT, not SW. Are you even interested in having this conversation, or are you just trying to stir things up? If you are, follow along.
    Mephisto would make it easier to be honest and thats because of his power gain. SP3 of Mephisto even at R2 vs Torch of Heroic will do easy but ok, next time I run that I will post images. Maybe you don't have the skill to do it and thats absolutely fine.

    With Ghost I can do a lot and I kinda did manage to takeout that Maw from Master EQ and if I play super safe and just build power from his misses, I can just rotate SP3. Doable but not viable and not really that hard either.
    HAHAHA. I don't have the skill? I literally did every level of Difficulty all month, hundreds of times in the case of Bounties, 3 a day. Sometimes having to restart because of lag issues.
    I have the skill. Mephisto feeds his Charges with every hit because of his Incinerate. You can get some Damage in, not much. He heats up before you know it, and melts you through your Regen. Try it yourself. Only, do it on Master and Epic like I did.
  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★
    Drooped2 said:

    If you're dead set on using only corvus no matter who you're fighting/where, and you will bring only him and you refuse to use anyone else against Maw, you could actually just do 1 hit light intercepts which will never crit and solo him.

    Yeah in a 3 min AW fight... maybe in Tier 20... is this an actual point you are trying to make💀 Am I in the twilight zone????
    Again you bring 3 champs to war. Everyone I know uses hector and thems tool that tells them who the next fight is


    Dumb enough to bring corvus to an ebony maw fight? You deserve the death and the boot from the allaince for being an idiot
    Big boy talk from T4😂💀💀💀
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    This debate is getting nowhere lol. Bottom line is, Corvus is useless against ebony maw, thats a fact. Will people stop using corvus? no, because there are plenty of other champs that corvus can help with like emma frost or IMIW. Besides, given the choice, you wouldn't use a cosmic vs a mystic in the first place if you can help it. Especially in AW tiers where you cant see the champ. Overall, corvus is still useful.
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,865 ★★★★★
    How is this unfair when you can bring other champs for example in AW you can bring 3, in EQ you can bring 5 and in arena just don’t match Corvus with ebony maw it really isn’t that hard to understand you’re just blowing this out of proportion like you acting like you are forced to use Corvus against him
  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★

    If you're dead set on using only corvus no matter who you're fighting/where, and you will bring only him and you refuse to use anyone else against Maw, you could actually just do 1 hit light intercepts which will never crit and solo him.

    Yeah in a 3 min AW fight... maybe in Tier 20... is this an actual point you are trying to make💀 Am I in the twilight zone????
    But if you're talking about AW, corvus can't kill thing for example either. When we faced thing on power shield/node 43 i had to rank specific champs to r4 just to fight him haha

    Corvus maybe can’t Solo Thing, but can beat him(I.e. do damage that lowers health closer to 0), enough revives will do it. I’ve never tried, but I’m sure under 15 items can beat an even rank thing. But it looks like Corvus can only do 1 light per 5 hit combo and Degen to death. 1000 revives wouldn’t work for an even rank in T1 war. This is dumb
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  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★
    Wanna know how I know you Guys are trolls? You don’t know if I have a Corvus or not. You won’t ask. You just make assumptions to further your own arguments. I’m asking questions to see how I can make sense in my points, you are making assumptions to further your own arguments
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    mike867 said:

    mike867 said:

    @mike867 I think we got them man, thanks for the proof, i was too lazy to provide it.

    I’m still in stitches about the SW commen💀💀💀

    You're not even paying attention. I talked to the OP about using Mephisto against HT, not SW. Are you even interested in having this conversation, or are you just trying to stir things up? If you are, follow along.
    Mephisto would make it easier to be honest and thats because of his power gain. SP3 of Mephisto even at R2 vs Torch of Heroic will do easy but ok, next time I run that I will post images. Maybe you don't have the skill to do it and thats absolutely fine.

    With Ghost I can do a lot and I kinda did manage to takeout that Maw from Master EQ and if I play super safe and just build power from his misses, I can just rotate SP3. Doable but not viable and not really that hard either.
    HAHAHA. I don't have the skill? I literally did every level of Difficulty all month, hundreds of times in the case of Bounties, 3 a day. Sometimes having to restart because of lag issues.
    I have the skill. Mephisto feeds his Charges with every hit because of his Incinerate. You can get some Damage in, not much. He heats up before you know it, and melts you through your Regen. Try it yourself. Only, do it on Master and Epic like I did.
    I got R2 mephisto with PI similar to Heroic one so I would compare it to that. In Epic its impossible without reviving a few times.

    In Master it is doable with 4-5 revives as I hinted above. I used 4 mystic champs to take him down. With Heimdall synergy you get another shot to use SP3 so its doable again.

    Good for you if you did all difficulties in bounty. I did Epic Torch with 3* Ghost (got video to prove) and that took me about 50 tries. Maybe try using Heimdal, Morningstar, Diablo (with liquid courage), Dormamu synergy and see if it helps. You would start 2 bars of power and nearly get 3 bars before losing ur charges. Boost up 30% and u will easily solo that Master mode Torch.

    Viable? No
    Impossible? No
    Doable? Yes
    Fun? Yes (for me)
    I'm not trying to call you out or say you can't do it. Just the opposite. I'm trying to tell you my skill is not the issue. I gave an example of a Champ that makes it extremely difficult for another particular Champ to take down. Mephisto just feeds HT because of his mechanics. It's an uphill paddle. Before you know it, HT overheats, and you're stacking Incinerate like mad. It's a unique Fight that makes it extremely difficult. So I learned not to use Mephisto for that Fight.
    The same can be said for other situations in the game. There has never been a guarantee that you can take any Champ into some Fights. There are better options, and some do very little. There are many other options, though. In this case, it's one or two Champs that can't be used, and there are other choices. Not a travesty.
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