Next time I bring this guy see if I have any better luck. 😕
Still have to live long enough to start gaining power.
On another note I love the trolls that keep suggesting using Iceman, they clearly know nothing of how the node works which means there arguing just to argue. You start with fate seal which means no ice armor unless you survive to special 3.
The fight is about luck. A few good counters which are RNG dependent. Other than that you have to bait specials which is a crapshoot at best.
As someone who is doing map6, it isnt for everybody. You need a strong roster and many immunities or power control champs which many dont have. Also the worst part about map 6 is how long it is, you need every membed to be active at the same time and not sit on my maxed energy while awake for too long.
This isnt a cash grab, map 5 bosses are not cash grabs because map 5 players aren't whales. Its overtuned and should be reduced to a comprable difficulty of the other 2 bosses.
You dont have to be a whale to spend. I dont know why people believe only 2 types of players exist: whales and f2p. Gonna hit some truthposting but its a spectrum of players, not binary
But nobody spends on Map 5, they may spend on completing content or get offers, but not this.
Calling stuff like this a cash grab undermines the argument imo. It is harder then it should be, making up reasons for why it's harder doesn't help, just focuses attention on how kabam is "screwing players" instead of focusing on the actual problem, a miniboss with a very small subset of counters.
This isnt a cash grab, map 5 bosses are not cash grabs because map 5 players aren't whales. Its overtuned and should be reduced to a comprable difficulty of the other 2 bosses.
You dont have to be a whale to spend. I dont know why people believe only 2 types of players exist: whales and f2p. Gonna hit some truthposting but its a spectrum of players, not binary
But nobody spends on Map 5, they may spend on completing content or get offers, but not this.
Calling stuff like this a cash grab undermines the argument imo. It is harder then it should be, making up reasons for why it's harder doesn't help, just focuses attention on how kabam is "screwing players" instead of focusing on the actual problem, a miniboss with a very small subset of counters.
How do you know people dont spend for map 5? When I started doing map5 then I would spend a little to be able to finish my path. I know tons of people who spend in AQ. Just because you dont doesnt mean others dont. Hyperion can be argued as a cash grab if everyone on your team dies due to extremely hard mini so you have to use revives to continue.
If these intentions are to push map 6 on ppl, it's not going to work and is optics by certain individuals to push an agenda... Will not work... Instead ppl will quit, after a long history of similar tactics by kabam
the least kabam can do is to make this hyperion's SP extremely easy to bait, which is apparently not the case for now. and this aq mini boss has since become another molded joke kabam made to charge you on your sickness
I've tried SS 3 times btw, it just isn't as easy as theorized. He died all 3 times. I took Magik of the same rank and she has killed 3/4 of the fights. But one of them I got lucky because he got his L3 and let me parry him so it could be 2/4 easily enough.
I've done the same, and already spent way more items than i used to spend in a whole week(0 items) of AQ before the change.
my issue is that with SS you have to be aggressive and lucky to get staggers on him for when he proc's power gain, then add to the fact that he cant even gain power for the first 20 seconds or so.
all the while trying to drain his power by baiting specials, its doable but on day 2 my r4 SS is barely getting by and thats with using revives and pots purchased with glory.
i've never even spent this many items in AW let alone AQ, i hope Kabam can at least remove the Empathetic Lock or reduce the time that it lasts at the very least.
I haven’t played this map 5 yet, but it sounds like Dormammu might be your best counter since he can power control a bit with just his medium attacks. Then survive to use Dorm’s sp2 and you’re golden. Obviously not a perfect strategy, but worth a shot. Good luck!
If these intentions are to push map 6 on ppl, it's not going to work and is optics by certain individuals to push an agenda... Will not work... Instead ppl will quit, after a long history of similar tactics by kabam
It isn’t only because of Hyperion but I am stepping down for now after this map. Hyperion and it’s nodes as well as the new war map and the class restrictions for act 6 are a clear indication to the direction Kabam is taking this game. For me, it’s not a path worth traveling so my son will get to play my account and I will come back if I ever feel like it
Yup, most of my ppl are too and I'm connected to a lot of high alliances. O and don't fret about some counters on here. It's paid opposition by the very minut minority. They know who they are. Out of one comes many.
I haven’t played this map 5 yet, but it sounds like Dormammu might be your best counter since he can power control a bit with just his medium attacks. Then survive to use Dorm’s sp2 and you’re golden. Obviously not a perfect strategy, but worth a shot. Good luck!
Nope lol, already tried. LC is best option along with Sym, but it's all chance and when he oscillates he just goes into his little corner and powergains
Start the fight without gaining power, without you heal, without your abilities, that is, Hyperion fills E3 and is over, this nod destroys what can be counter against him. Kabam lost his notion on the nodes of this Hyperion. Clearly want to see people spend up on the M5
With all due respect... Luke cage duped Iceman Ghost with hood Can all tank sp3
Hood Symbiote supreme Morningstar Void (with some luck on debuffs) All have abilities that nullify or stop his powergain
There's probably alot more than im just thinking off the top of my head! Map 5 is only 8 paths generally, so have a decidated person to bring a champ for hyperion, that's how we've managed to get through it (we run 665 so far this week)
That being said... Without a solid counter it is a very difficult fight! And the node cripples his main 2 counters in magik and void! And the rewards increase do not match the difficulty increase... Definitely think overall that emphatic lock node needs to be replaced by something else!
Alpha Scorpion
Not Iceman... since beginning his ice armor will never ready even after 20 secs.
Kabam employees please could you relay back to the powers that be your side, that the hyperion mini boss is way over the top and needs to be changed to a different character ASAP. Thank you
Like this game couldn’t get any worse they make it impossible to beat the mini boss without using all the resources we have. Kabaam is going to lose a lot of players...
I hope people telling that we have counters will post awesome videos of them to help community in general and will avoid mocking the honest people here who have genuine concerns. Cheers to he who must not be named. I hope this is not inflammatory. Besides inflammation is bodies defense mechanism against harmful substances.
Guys please do something cause Hyperion as miniboss in AQ5 is impossible. 20 sec without buff and eh is charging power as fast as only Hyp can do is too much. At the level of this Hyp one special 3 kill is enough to kill directory also a 5star rank4 you are exxagerating with difficulty ...also in monthly mission...really...a lot of people is thnking about leaving the game this way
1. Don't use a full 5 hit combo, parry and let him get to SP1 and bait it without triggering dexterity. 2. Be patient and don't panic, heavy to keep distance without triggering spite.
I've taken him down both days without any significant issues, as for RNG I just play it safe until I get the petrify, 1-2 hits at the most and parry back off.
A lot of alliances think map 5 is a cakewalk and snidely scoff at it as beneath them, this now shows that most of you are not equipped with the technical expertise, fight I.Q, roster depth and reflexes to deal with the problems at hand.
Adapt or move down to a map that is more your speed, or don't run map 5 the weeks Hyperion is the miniboss, I'm not saying this is not overturned or a problem, but we have to be realistic where we stand vis a vis the company and our collective ability in the face of the content, which will only get harder as time goes by.
This is not the end of situations like this, the days of simple attack and health increase nodes are over, all of those nodes in story quest that eroded your will and love of this game will be all over Alliance Quest now.
This will only get worse before it gets better and I write that with no glee, satisfaction or enjoyment.
Just with a grim and fatalistic acceptance of reality.
I think I get it, so everyone just needs a rank 5 void! Why didn't I think of that...
The main problem is when he enters his armour phase in oscillate. That's complete bs. Won't charge specials and will gain power all the way to sp3. Void is all RNG and yes Luke Cage seems to be a great counter still applying those exhaustions all depends on rng.
Getting real tired of this ****. I used a few possibility best champion to counter Hyperion but I be damned that I lost so easy to him. The most problematic node idea ever made. Are kabam trying to kill map5 or what? No wonder they put the classic Thanos instead of the Infinity gauntlet Thanos version to make the map much harder than it should be.
That is a very different situation. You had time to get his persistent charges up (congrats btw) but counters do exist and this balance is healthy for the player base and Kabam
It’s not balanced he’s a map 5 mini boss who’s harder than the map 7 boss
It gives players the mindset to want to ditch Map 5. I think this was intentional so Kabam can get more alliances to test out Map 6. They want us to progress more, and they should be appreciated for their clever node choices that accomplished this.
Youre just repeating yourself constantly the point of map 5 is that it should be easier the map 6/7 but is not the case with this new AQ
My alliance has had no issues with him. Yeah he gets some kills... big whoop. Why is it mandatory that every boss should be able to be soloed?
The gripes about AW are warranted. The gripes about Hyperion aren’t. You have 30 champs to work with. Even if you sacrifice 5 champs per mini, you are still left with 20 champs which is more than enough to clear using no items.
I’m at a point where I’m getting close to 100% everything and once I come back to the game will probably start doing map 6 but this is too hard for map 5 level
My alliance has had no issues with him. Yeah he gets some kills... big whoop. Why is it mandatory that every boss should be able to be soloed?
The gripes about AW are warranted. The gripes about Hyperion aren’t. You have 30 champs to work with. Even if you sacrifice 5 champs per mini, you are still left with 20 champs which is more than enough to clear using no items.
On its face I could agree with this comment if not for a couple issues
1) not all players are as good as each other. Some struggle to not use items to complete aq without even touching a boss
2) not everyone is up and on at the same time so a boss staying up while some are sitting on energy crunches time on the map and makes completing more challenging .
3) not everyone has one of the select potential counters at a respectable rank
4) and most importantly, this has never been an issue prior in map 5. If the difficulty level is going to increase to the extent that mini boss fights are now all hands on deck, then maybe a corresponding bump in rewards is due
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On another note I love the trolls that keep suggesting using Iceman, they clearly know nothing of how the node works which means there arguing just to argue. You start with fate seal which means no ice armor unless you survive to special 3.
The fight is about luck. A few good counters which are RNG dependent. Other than that you have to bait specials which is a crapshoot at best.
Calling stuff like this a cash grab undermines the argument imo. It is harder then it should be, making up reasons for why it's harder doesn't help, just focuses attention on how kabam is "screwing players" instead of focusing on the actual problem, a miniboss with a very small subset of counters.
my issue is that with SS you have to be aggressive and lucky to get staggers on him for when he proc's power gain, then add to the fact that he cant even gain power for the first 20 seconds or so.
all the while trying to drain his power by baiting specials, its doable but on day 2 my r4 SS is barely getting by and thats with using revives and pots purchased with glory.
i've never even spent this many items in AW let alone AQ, i hope Kabam can at least remove the Empathetic Lock or reduce the time that it lasts at the very least.
Ghost with hood is good
you are exxagerating with difficulty ...also in monthly mission...really...a lot of people is thnking about leaving the game this way
She never dies and can take as many sp3 as he can give out so as long as you can intercept them no problem