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  • Panchulon21Panchulon21 Member Posts: 2,605 ★★★★★
    You’ll get tickets to use in the future. If they rebalance map 6 without degen it’s really much better than map 5 ( this is coming from someone who despised map 6)

    The AI is much better, no need to remember special attacks of all the doom bots, more aggressive AI (I know they’re going to look at this for map 5), better rewards and more points in the end.

    Not a simple solution and I know most will disagree but it’s something. You can test map 6 while it’s free and see. Youll have the tickets and be fine. And it’s been pretty cheap to run map 5 how much would you get back (we do 12k bc a week for 6x4 and 150k gold, forgot how much loyalty)
  • hellrazurrrhellrazurrr Member Posts: 154
    @UmbertoDelRio yeah he did. He meant to tag @Demonzfyre
  • hellrazurrrhellrazurrr Member Posts: 154
    This.

  • NinjAlanNinjAlan Member Posts: 358 ★★★
    This is a change that is nothing but negative for the playerbase. Given the current state of the game, and kabams utter failure to communicate properly with its playerbase, I'm baffled how they could even remotely think this would be well received.
  • TheTalentsTheTalents Member Posts: 2,254 ★★★★★

    I’ll just keep posting this because it has to be a better solution.

    Make every aq map free. If the main reason to not do that is a concern for developers making map 7 accessible to new accounts that isn’t really a deterrent imo. New accounts or players shouldn’t be able to complete map 7. If they choose to lock themselves into map 7 for that day and can’t complete that’s on them. Tbh it would probably be fun for newer players to at least get a little taste of high end aq so they can see how far they can get each week if they tried it out once in a while.

    I agree with this post 100%. Just remove the AQ cost period. That way people can still stay with their friends and their won't be any breakups in alliances and collectively all 30 can negotiate what to run each week. People are now forced to either take a step up or a step back in what they play.
    If you’re going to abandon your friends because of this then how good of a friend are you really?
    If your friends allowed you to hold them back they're not your friends either? See it works both ways. A real friend is mature enough to let you move on do whats best for you.
  • Carmel1Carmel1 Member Posts: 634 ★★★

    I’ll just keep posting this because it has to be a better solution.

    Make every aq map free. If the main reason to not do that is a concern for developers making map 7 accessible to new accounts that isn’t really a deterrent imo. New accounts or players shouldn’t be able to complete map 7. If they choose to lock themselves into map 7 for that day and can’t complete that’s on them. Tbh it would probably be fun for newer players to at least get a little taste of high end aq so they can see how far they can get each week if they tried it out once in a while.

    I agree with this post 100%. Just remove the AQ cost period. That way people can still stay with their friends and their won't be any breakups in alliances and collectively all 30 can negotiate what to run each week. People are now forced to either take a step up or a step back in what they play.
    If you’re going to abandon your friends because of this then how good of a friend are you really?
    If your friends allowed you to hold them back they're not your friends either? See it works both ways. A real friend is mature enough to let you move on do whats best for you.
    disagree.
    a good friend is a good friend first, and a good player second (and it's ok if not everyone are like this and have their personal goals first)
    i know many players in many alliances that LOVE the group they are in more than loving the game.
    in my opinion this is one big step in the wrong direction. Kabam don't understand what affect it's going to have on the social part of the game and how it's going to push players for retirements.
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,437 ★★★★★
    Good point noticed by someone above.
    Consider Map 6. Player A is skilled, but doesn't have time to do Arena and grind for donations. Has a decent amount of loyalty. On the other hand, Player B, his friend in the same alliance grinds a lot of arena. To help his friend out, he's willing to pay his donations for Gold and BC. This allows them to play together. With the introduction of tickets, it definitely has become every man for himself. You don't have the time to grind, can't ask an ally member to help you out. Someone has tons of extra resources? Can't help an ally member out. Screws over such people as well.
  • JDunk2291JDunk2291 Member Posts: 464 ★★
    Wahyau said:



    This was our alliance in Feb, years of building the treasury down the toilet. Dumb and dumber moves by kabam. People were paying for each other and trading, helping each other. Just putting this up here to know what a bs move this is. The allocation of treasury was to be left to the ally and its leadership, to adjust as needed and to help those who couldn't do the mad grinding needed to sustain aq. The ally was understanding and helped each other all these years. You guys take absolutely no feedback and spit on our faces overnight.

    Give us back all the donations, atleast split it amongst the team.

    This is ALL I'm saying lol
  • hellrazurrrhellrazurrr Member Posts: 154
    @UmbertoDelRio I feel u! Ours was too. In case one day we might have a group that could map 6. We had 20 million in gold and crazy loyalty chips in our treasury
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,520 ★★★★★
    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    Right. So that will wrap up sometime in the Fall of 2021.
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,437 ★★★★★
    edited May 2020

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    Right. So that will wrap up sometime in the Fall of 2021.
    How lol? As far as I've understood, yhey're going to track your donations and run it across maps you've done to reduce the extra donations and refund it as tickets. How is that easier than refunding your individual donations? They have to get your individual donations anyways for the method they're using.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,520 ★★★★★

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    Right. So that will wrap up sometime in the Fall of 2021.
    How lol? As far as I've understood, yhey're going to track your donations and run it across maps you've done to reduce the extra donations and refund it as tickets. How is that easier than refunding your individual donations? They have to get your individual donations anyways for the method they're using.
    You're suggesting combing the data and individually setting up refunds via the server, refunds which are numerous and vary.
  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★
    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    But then the Gold and BCs that you put IN as donations could now be used for other, non-AQ based activities, such as ranking up and getting more gold/units. If there weren't a change, those resources would be inaccessible to the player. By giving back the resources, the players who donated would have an advantage–the advantage of having more resources to be freely used. By donating, you're essentially giving up your possession of Gold, BCs, and Loyalty. You don't get that possession back under normal circumstances. It goes to the greater good of the alliance. BUT, now what you're proposing is to give the possession of those resources BACK to the players, which isn't fair.
  • bdawg923bdawg923 Member Posts: 764 ★★★★

    bdawg923 said:

    @Kabam Miike Can you please post a spreadsheet with the ticket costs so we can calculate our map costs?

    This has been added to the original announcement! Sorry, forgot to reply when I did it.
    Thanks
  • JustapilgrimJustapilgrim Member Posts: 239 ★★
    After running the numbers and finding out my alliance can continue to run Map 6 at the former reduced donation rates I was charging (150k gold, 25k BC and 18k loyalty), I withdraw my complaints. We will have a 4 ticket bonus from the total cost of 148,842 gold (22 tickets), 24,097 BC (29 tickets) and 18,174 Loyalty (28 tickets).

    I still have no clue how they are going to extrapolate out how many tickets I should get for the 20 million gold I donated a few weeks ago. 150 tickets costs like 1.3 million gold. Does the sliding scale keep sliding further or does it ever reach an end at some point....

    @Kabam Miike any input? I have donated close to 100 million gold into my alliance as the leader from December until now.
  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    But then the Gold and BCs that you put IN as donations could now be used for other, non-AQ based activities, such as ranking up and getting more gold/units. If there weren't a change, those resources would be inaccessible to the player. By giving back the resources, the players who donated would have an advantage–the advantage of having more resources to be freely used. By donating, you're essentially giving up your possession of Gold, BCs, and Loyalty. You don't get that possession back under normal circumstances. It goes to the greater good of the alliance. BUT, now what you're proposing is to give the possession of those resources BACK to the players, which isn't fair.
    And if this change would have been appropriately communicated beforehand those resources wouldn't nessecarily have been send to the treasury to begin with.

    Your perspective on this is just really weird to me, not going to lie. Almost grounded weird.
    No, I agree that there should have been a big heads up ages ago, but I was just stating why giving back those resources isn't fair to other players.
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,437 ★★★★★
    edited May 2020

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    Right. So that will wrap up sometime in the Fall of 2021.
    How lol? As far as I've understood, yhey're going to track your donations and run it across maps you've done to reduce the extra donations and refund it as tickets. How is that easier than refunding your individual donations? They have to get your individual donations anyways for the method they're using.
    You're suggesting combing the data and individually setting up refunds via the server, refunds which are numerous and vary.
    Not getting your point. They're individually refunding you in the form of tickets. They're checking YOUR donations with the Map YOU have run. Not the alliance. So they have to set up individual, numerous and varied refunds either way.

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    But then the Gold and BCs that you put IN as donations could now be used for other, non-AQ based activities, such as ranking up and getting more gold/units. If there weren't a change, those resources would be inaccessible to the player. By giving back the resources, the players who donated would have an advantage–the advantage of having more resources to be freely used. By donating, you're essentially giving up your possession of Gold, BCs, and Loyalty. You don't get that possession back under normal circumstances. It goes to the greater good of the alliance. BUT, now what you're proposing is to give the possession of those resources BACK to the players, which isn't fair.
    So we're getting refunds in the form of tickets. I'd rather have those refunds in the form of resources. Then it's up to me to decide if I want to use those refunds for my tickets or get tickets using units and keep the refunds.

    As I said in another post, even the regular people who asked for help from ally members are getting shafted. We have someone running 3 accounts in the alliance. Skilled member, so the rest 27 decided to split the donations for 2 of the accounts. Now, that's not possible. People will say that he can give up the accounts, but it's a way of helping the ally like how others do through donations.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,520 ★★★★★

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    Right. So that will wrap up sometime in the Fall of 2021.
    How lol? As far as I've understood, yhey're going to track your donations and run it across maps you've done to reduce the extra donations and refund it as tickets. How is that easier than refunding your individual donations? They have to get your individual donations anyways for the method they're using.
    You're suggesting combing the data and individually setting up refunds via the server, refunds which are numerous and vary.
    Not getting your point. They're individually refunding you in the form of tickets. They're checking YOUR donations with the Map YOU have run. Not the alliance. So they have to set up individual, numerous and varied refunds either way.

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    But then the Gold and BCs that you put IN as donations could now be used for other, non-AQ based activities, such as ranking up and getting more gold/units. If there weren't a change, those resources would be inaccessible to the player. By giving back the resources, the players who donated would have an advantage–the advantage of having more resources to be freely used. By donating, you're essentially giving up your possession of Gold, BCs, and Loyalty. You don't get that possession back under normal circumstances. It goes to the greater good of the alliance. BUT, now what you're proposing is to give the possession of those resources BACK to the players, which isn't fair.
    So we're getting refunds in the form of tickets. I'd rather have those refunds in the form of resources. Then it's up to me to decide if I want to use those refunds for my tickets or get tickets using units and keep the refunds.
    It's easier to arrange a certain number of Tickets than it is to arrange a whole range of amounts.
  • JustapilgrimJustapilgrim Member Posts: 239 ★★

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    Right. So that will wrap up sometime in the Fall of 2021.
    How lol? As far as I've understood, yhey're going to track your donations and run it across maps you've done to reduce the extra donations and refund it as tickets. How is that easier than refunding your individual donations? They have to get your individual donations anyways for the method they're using.
    You're suggesting combing the data and individually setting up refunds via the server, refunds which are numerous and vary.
    Not getting your point. They're individually refunding you in the form of tickets. They're checking YOUR donations with the Map YOU have run. Not the alliance. So they have to set up individual, numerous and varied refunds either way.

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    But then the Gold and BCs that you put IN as donations could now be used for other, non-AQ based activities, such as ranking up and getting more gold/units. If there weren't a change, those resources would be inaccessible to the player. By giving back the resources, the players who donated would have an advantage–the advantage of having more resources to be freely used. By donating, you're essentially giving up your possession of Gold, BCs, and Loyalty. You don't get that possession back under normal circumstances. It goes to the greater good of the alliance. BUT, now what you're proposing is to give the possession of those resources BACK to the players, which isn't fair.
    So we're getting refunds in the form of tickets. I'd rather have those refunds in the form of resources. Then it's up to me to decide if I want to use those refunds for my tickets or get tickets using units and keep the refunds.
    It's easier to arrange a certain number of Tickets than it is to arrange a whole range of amounts.
    No. They just want to give you the fewest tickets possible because of the sliding scale. If I would have 1.3 million gold coming back to me, they are going to give me 150 tickets instead. But I could use that 1.3 million gold to buy a lot more tickets over the next couple weeks because of the diminishing returns of the sliding scale.
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,437 ★★★★★

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    Right. So that will wrap up sometime in the Fall of 2021.
    How lol? As far as I've understood, yhey're going to track your donations and run it across maps you've done to reduce the extra donations and refund it as tickets. How is that easier than refunding your individual donations? They have to get your individual donations anyways for the method they're using.
    You're suggesting combing the data and individually setting up refunds via the server, refunds which are numerous and vary.
    Not getting your point. They're individually refunding you in the form of tickets. They're checking YOUR donations with the Map YOU have run. Not the alliance. So they have to set up individual, numerous and varied refunds either way.

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    But then the Gold and BCs that you put IN as donations could now be used for other, non-AQ based activities, such as ranking up and getting more gold/units. If there weren't a change, those resources would be inaccessible to the player. By giving back the resources, the players who donated would have an advantage–the advantage of having more resources to be freely used. By donating, you're essentially giving up your possession of Gold, BCs, and Loyalty. You don't get that possession back under normal circumstances. It goes to the greater good of the alliance. BUT, now what you're proposing is to give the possession of those resources BACK to the players, which isn't fair.
    So we're getting refunds in the form of tickets. I'd rather have those refunds in the form of resources. Then it's up to me to decide if I want to use those refunds for my tickets or get tickets using units and keep the refunds.
    It's easier to arrange a certain number of Tickets than it is to arrange a whole range of amounts.
    Have to convert the donations into tickets. Running it through a code is an extra step. The same step can be used to write amounts if I'm not mistaken. If I am, still fee that we should be given the choice to use our refunds as we choose to. Unless it's going to be a lengthy process which I don't think it will.
  • bloodyCainbloodyCain Member Posts: 910 ★★★
    Those BC from treasury can be used to get units and gold from arena crystal especially for those who only play map 5.
    What is KABAM thinking? Jeez
  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    Right. So that will wrap up sometime in the Fall of 2021.
    How lol? As far as I've understood, yhey're going to track your donations and run it across maps you've done to reduce the extra donations and refund it as tickets. How is that easier than refunding your individual donations? They have to get your individual donations anyways for the method they're using.
    You're suggesting combing the data and individually setting up refunds via the server, refunds which are numerous and vary.
    Not getting your point. They're individually refunding you in the form of tickets. They're checking YOUR donations with the Map YOU have run. Not the alliance. So they have to set up individual, numerous and varied refunds either way.

    Knorr7227 said:

    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
    Not intricate at all, if they can track and datamine each players donations and which maps they ran for the past 5 months in order to issue the appropriate amount “AQ tickets” for this new system, they can certainly just refund each players individual treasury donations, which in turn the gold refunded would help allievate some of the “gold drought” in game and the retuned BCs/Loyalty could be used by alliances to purchase AQ tixs...
    But then the Gold and BCs that you put IN as donations could now be used for other, non-AQ based activities, such as ranking up and getting more gold/units. If there weren't a change, those resources would be inaccessible to the player. By giving back the resources, the players who donated would have an advantage–the advantage of having more resources to be freely used. By donating, you're essentially giving up your possession of Gold, BCs, and Loyalty. You don't get that possession back under normal circumstances. It goes to the greater good of the alliance. BUT, now what you're proposing is to give the possession of those resources BACK to the players, which isn't fair.
    So we're getting refunds in the form of tickets. I'd rather have those refunds in the form of resources. Then it's up to me to decide if I want to use those refunds for my tickets or get tickets using units and keep the refunds.

    As I said in another post, even the regular people who asked for help from ally members are getting shafted. We have someone running 3 accounts in the alliance. Skilled member, so the rest 27 decided to split the donations for 2 of the accounts. Now, that's not possible. People will say that he can give up the accounts, but it's a way of helping the ally like how others do through donations.
    But you're not getting my point. If they gave back our resources, it wouldn't be fair to other players who don't donate. Since it was YOUR decision to invest YOUR resources into YOUR alliance instead of using those resources on YOURSELF, it's on YOU. The Tickets are flawed in a few ways, but they are a better solution than to just give back the resources you donated. Remember, once you click Donate, it's not your resources anymore. It's the alliances'. By regaining possession of the resources you gave away, it's an unfair advantage against other players since you can use it in non-AQ settings.
  • cookiedealercookiedealer Member Posts: 260 ★★

    Hey Everybody,

    We've been kind of quiet regarding some of the concerns that have been brought up today, but that's because we've been discussing them. We will not be reaching a conclusion on anything today, but we want you all to know that we're not ignoring your feedback.

    We will have more information for you all next week, but need time to regroup, and look at your feedback on pain points, and have some discussions.

    I understand one of the driving ideas is to punish treasury loaders (arena botters, resource sellers). But maybe there is a route that helps the nontreasury loaders!
  • GOTGGOTG Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    Ok so there will be many alliances which currently run map 7 will not be able to do it anymore. Their members can not buy the ticket unless they pay huge amount of money each week. End of FTP time with map 7.
  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★
    Think about it this way.
    Player A has 1,000,000 gold.
    Player B has 2,000,000 gold. He donates 1,000,000 to his alliance. He no longer owns the 1,000,000 gold he donated.

    Player A and Player B both rank up their champs using the gold they have.

    Now, if Player B was compensated with his donations:
    Player B would get 1,000,000 gold. Now I understand that he earned that gold. But by choosing to donate it to his alliance and therefore surrendering his rights to his gold, he gains an advantage because in the normal setting, that gold would not be used to rank up his champs. Since he made the decision to contribute his resources towards AQ, his resources should not be able to be refunded and used for something that is not AQ related.

    Do you see why it's unfair to other players?
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