Hear me out... Cable > Domino

KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Member Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★
Cable is now insane, as you may have seen from the CCP videos! He can stack tons of degens (10+) if you play aggressive and deal serious amounts of damage. He has reached Omega Red levels of degeneration damage. He can finish Act 6.4 fights in like 25 hits, as demonstrated in BG's video.

Now let's look at Domino. She's a great champion. She's seen as a high damage champion. She's typically seen as a heavy spamming champion, but she requires 2 slots on her team for that. And her incinerate damage is all RNG based. You ideally need to crit on at least 1, if not both, of the hits of the heavy attack in order to inflict a powerful incinerate. Cable only requires 1 extra slot in the team, AND his damage is not RNG based, it is power based. So as long as you heavy spam, get the opponent to an sp1, make them throw it, heavy spam, repeat, your damage will be INSANE! Cable has the potential to be one of the most potent DOT champions in the entire game with this new synergy. In addition, no one is immune to degeneration, but quite a lot of champs are either immune or resistant to incinerate, or energy resistant (incinerate deals less or powers up their abilities like CMM and Bishop). Finally, Cable's degeneration is a WHOPPING 15 SECONDS, while Domino's incinerate is a meager 2 second incinerate (+1 second with Masacre synergy).

To all of you Domino simps, I am sorry for this, but I must be the one to deliver the truth. Cable is now a better champion than Domino. To Kabam, thank you for making all sig 80 Cable owners happy.

Hope this helps.
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  • NerdNerdNerd1NerdNerdNerd1 Member Posts: 379 ★★★
    Yes.
  • KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Member Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★

    Yeah, Cable is way better, as everyone has apocalypse lying around, and also Red Hulk is a very rare character no one has. Also Domino doesn't have THE most potent bleed damage in the game, while also having the ability to land insane crits and stun the opponent doing so, also Domino can't literally shut down the opponent, shut down dexterity and make them degenerate awakened
    /s

    True, she doesn't have the most potent bleed damage in the game. Nick Fury does. Domino has to get lucky and sometimes it takes a ton of sp2s/sp3s before you see a good critical bleed. Hope this helps.
  • DrDeadpoolDrDeadpool Member Posts: 170 ★★
    rare W
  • DrDeadpoolDrDeadpool Member Posts: 170 ★★
    Arsoz said:

    Well domino Doesnt need synergys to even be good its just a nice bonus

    immaculate cap
  • KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Member Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★
    Arsoz said:

    Well domino Doesnt need synergys to even be good its just a nice bonus

    🧢🧢🧢

    She's just average without synergies. Just a decently hard hitting champion who crits a fair bit and has some luck-based damage potential on special attacks. She's on the level of champions like Mysterio and Silver Surfer without synergies.
  • DrDeadpoolDrDeadpool Member Posts: 170 ★★

    Yeah, Cable is way better, as everyone has apocalypse lying around, and also Red Hulk is a very rare character no one has. Also Domino doesn't have THE most potent bleed damage in the game, while also having the ability to land insane crits and stun the opponent doing so, also Domino can't literally shut down the opponent, shut down dexterity and make them degenerate awakened
    /s

    True, she doesn't have the most potent bleed damage in the game. Nick Fury does. Domino has to get lucky and sometimes it takes a ton of sp2s/sp3s before you see a good critical bleed. Hope this helps.
    You really are thick. And I mean dumb thick, not thicc. Domino has an insanely potent bleed. Also Nick may have guaranteed bleeds, but they can't scale as high as hers.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBMPOFCthHU
    lets see her do that in 2020
  • RU11011RU11011 Member Posts: 880 ★★★★
    Don't like Domino, never used Cable, but the Apocalypse synergy looks promising. Now you know who's a good parry-heavy champ I like? AA. Now there's a good DOT champ who also happens to look cool.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    Can’t really get your hand on an apocalypse like that?
  • NerdNerdNerd1NerdNerdNerd1 Member Posts: 379 ★★★
    RU11011 said:

    Don't like Domino, never used Cable, but the Apocalypse synergy looks promising. Now you know who's a good parry-heavy champ I like? AA. Now there's a good DOT champ who also happens to look cool.


    YESSSS, 2nd best mutant dont @ me
  • NerdNerdNerd1NerdNerdNerd1 Member Posts: 379 ★★★

    Arsoz said:

    Well domino Doesnt need synergys to even be good its just a nice bonus

    🧢🧢🧢

    She's just average without synergies. Just a decently hard hitting champion who crits a fair bit and has some luck-based damage potential on special attacks. She's on the level of champions like Mysterio and Silver Surfer without synergies.
    gotta disagree here, mysterio is WAYYYY better then domino
  • RU11011RU11011 Member Posts: 880 ★★★★

    RU11011 said:

    Don't like Domino, never used Cable, but the Apocalypse synergy looks promising. Now you know who's a good parry-heavy champ I like? AA. Now there's a good DOT champ who also happens to look cool.


    YESSSS, 2nd best mutant dont @ me
    I would argue 3rd or 4th best (Omega, Colossus, maybe Red Mag), but that might change if I ever get my hands on an Apocalypse.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    RU11011 said:

    RU11011 said:

    Don't like Domino, never used Cable, but the Apocalypse synergy looks promising. Now you know who's a good parry-heavy champ I like? AA. Now there's a good DOT champ who also happens to look cool.


    YESSSS, 2nd best mutant dont @ me
    I would argue 3rd or 4th best (Omega, Colossus, maybe Red Mag), but that might change if I ever get my hands on an Apocalypse.
    I agree.
  • SavageSavage Member Posts: 621 ★★★
    I don't know if he'll be better than Domino but he looks like a top 5 mutant for sure. Right under Magneto, Omega, AA, and Domino.
  • SavageSavage Member Posts: 621 ★★★
    edited September 2020

    Savage said:

    I don't know if he'll be better than Domino but he looks like a top 5 mutant for sure. Right under Magneto, Omega, AA, and Domino.

    Nope. Colossus Mags Domino Omega, AA, Namor, Havok and Sunspot are better
    In my defense, Havok doesn't have any real utility, Sunspot is very situational because of his reliance on stun, Namor is niche but effective, and Colossus is overly buff reliant w/no utility outside of his immunities and survivability. At least with Cable, I would be able to have sustainability with his regen and shut down opponents with his 90-100% aar and also practically have double immunity. Crazy power gain too and true strike for optional fights.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Savage said:

    Savage said:

    I don't know if he'll be better than Domino but he looks like a top 5 mutant for sure. Right under Magneto, Omega, AA, and Domino.

    Nope. Colossus Mags Domino Omega, AA, Namor, Havok and Sunspot are better
    In my defense, Havok doesn't have any real utility, Sunspot is very situational because of his reliance on stun, Namor is niche but effective, and Colossus is overly buff reliant w/no utility outside of his immunities and survivability.
    Havok has some utility. He has a DoT that AFAIK no one is immune to. He's also Incinerate immune without dealing Incinerate damage. He can gain prowess. He has natural power gain (albeit very slow).

    His main thing is his high damage though. Same with Sunspot, but he gains perfect block assuming not fighting against Incinerate immune (which why would you fight against an Incinerate immune when you rely on Incinerate in the first place)
  • SavageSavage Member Posts: 621 ★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    Savage said:

    I don't know if he'll be better than Domino but he looks like a top 5 mutant for sure. Right under Magneto, Omega, AA, and Domino.

    Nope. Colossus Mags Domino Omega, AA, Namor, Havok and Sunspot are better
    In my defense, Havok doesn't have any real utility, Sunspot is very situational because of his reliance on stun, Namor is niche but effective, and Colossus is overly buff reliant w/no utility outside of his immunities and survivability.
    Havok has some utility. He has a DoT that AFAIK no one is immune to. He's also Incinerate immune without dealing Incinerate damage. He can gain prowess. He has natural power gain (albeit very slow).

    His main thing is his high damage though. Same with Sunspot, but he gains perfect block assuming not fighting against Incinerate immune (which why would you fight against an Incinerate immune when you rely on Incinerate in the first place)
    But compared to what cable is now capable of... I don't think it's even close. Cable is going to be able to cover a lot of content without the need of anything but his heavy attack (which has long range) White mags will be able to further increase his useage on limber nodes with his prefight which is pretty cool too.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    Savage said:

    I don't know if he'll be better than Domino but he looks like a top 5 mutant for sure. Right under Magneto, Omega, AA, and Domino.

    Nope. Colossus Mags Domino Omega, AA, Namor, Havok and Sunspot are better
    In my defense, Havok doesn't have any real utility, Sunspot is very situational because of his reliance on stun, Namor is niche but effective, and Colossus is overly buff reliant w/no utility outside of his immunities and survivability.
    Havok has some utility. He has a DoT that AFAIK no one is immune to. He's also Incinerate immune without dealing Incinerate damage. He can gain prowess. He has natural power gain (albeit very slow).

    His main thing is his high damage though. Same with Sunspot, but he gains perfect block assuming not fighting against Incinerate immune (which why would you fight against an Incinerate immune when you rely on Incinerate in the first place)
    But compared to what cable is now capable of... I don't think it's even close. Cable is going to be able to cover a lot of content without the need of anything but his heavy attack (which has long range) White mags will be able to further increase his useage on limber nodes with his prefight which is pretty cool too.
    Wasn't disputing that Cable might be good now, although I'll reserve judgment for when I can try it for myself (I don't watch any CCP content so I wouldn't know what he's now capable of), I was disputing that Havok had no real utility, which he does have some useful utility depending on what you need specifically. Of course like any champ, their usefulness depends on personal roster, and specific needs at that time.
  • KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Member Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    KD: Cable is better than Domino with Apoc synergy!!!

    Also KD: Domino is average without synergy!

    I rest my case.

    But Domino is average without synergies
  • KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Member Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★

    Savage said:

    Savage said:

    I don't know if he'll be better than Domino but he looks like a top 5 mutant for sure. Right under Magneto, Omega, AA, and Domino.

    Nope. Colossus Mags Domino Omega, AA, Namor, Havok and Sunspot are better
    In my defense, Havok doesn't have any real utility, Sunspot is very situational because of his reliance on stun, Namor is niche but effective, and Colossus is overly buff reliant w/no utility outside of his immunities and survivability. At least with Cable, I would be able to have sustainability with his regen and shut down opponents with his 90-100% aar and also practically have double immunity. Crazy power gain too and true strike for optional fights.
    Maybe Havok and Sunspot, but Namor is crazy, insane fury, while also having nice regen and reflecting damage awakened which has insane utility. Namor > Cable (with synergy)
    Cable will finish fights so much faster than Namor. By the time that slog of building his imperius Rex is over, the fight will be over on Cable’s end.
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