Variant 7 is way too easy

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  • Will3808Will3808 Posts: 2,766 ★★★★
    I’ve only done the first two chapters but yes, I agree. Exploration looks especially easy compared to all the other variants. Most of the lanes for exploration are just as easy as the completion lanes.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    I agree that from what ive run so far it does seem easy. However for the guys that are complaining its too easy you can make it a challenge for youselves if you REALLY want to make it difficult. Run it with 4 stars or r1-2 5 stars and challenge yourselves if you feel so strongly about it. It would be nice to see more difficult content come out for endgame players as someone who has completed everything myself but lets not make the difficulty so difficult that ONLY endgame players can complete it and everybody else gets left behind

    How are people left behind? Once they develop the rosters, they can also do the most difficult content. By that logic, Kabam cannot create any content since someone will always be left behind. There needs to be a goalpost for anyone to work towards. As it is, only AW seems to be the difficult content available for people who have explored everything.
    Goalposts require "skill". Roster breadth need not qualify for that. Difficulty is also subjective, what may be difficult for someone may not be for someone else. How do you quantify that? Make it "difficult" that you hope the players will be able to gain those "skills" later on? "skills" reduce items but lets not forget, a bunch of players will not be doing act6 at all. These "hard" pieces of content are better off as limited time events with decent rewards, the main lure being "the challenge of it".
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Posts: 3,180 ★★★★★
    Ebony_Naw said:

    Gmonkey said:

    Kabam's biggest mistake was letting people's roster outpace the content.

    I think they should make more content like V4, except harder. Much, much harder. Hell, make an absolute hell-mode 3*-only variant. It'd give a reality check to people who bust through these things with God-tier 6r3, or even 5r5s.

    If there's anything that rando-incursions have taught me, it's that most people suck at this game. It's incredibly weird handholding players with a trio of 6r3 gods, but it's less uncommon than you'd expect.

    Everyone complained when 7.1 beta was first launched vs the final product. It was brutal some paths had only one counter. That is why it is easy now, have you done 6.2.5 it was worse than that. Wish they had more fights like the final boss of 6.4.6. They did say they are planning something harder for endgame players.
    Miike said clearly in the past that variants are for endgame players. It clearly isn't that way difficulty wise, but they are supposedly the endgame target. How many times and with how much content can we say "no, not for you, wait your turn" and expect that portion of the playerbase to stay engaged in the game?

    Conversely, why should all content be geared toward the midgame player?
    It’s a tiny portion of the player base that feels this way. Anyway if it was harder, you’d be complaining that you spent all this time ranking up champs and now struggle with variant content.
  • AntoGreyAntoGrey Posts: 40
    The point is not that Variant 7 could be easy. Point is that I am going to 100% it in a couple of hours and after that there is anything else to do in this game.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    AntoGrey said:

    The point is not that Variant 7 could be easy. Point is that I am going to 100% it in a couple of hours and after that there is anything else to do in this game.

    To that id say, arena.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Posts: 1,883 ★★★★★

    Pulyaman said:

    I agree that from what ive run so far it does seem easy. However for the guys that are complaining its too easy you can make it a challenge for youselves if you REALLY want to make it difficult. Run it with 4 stars or r1-2 5 stars and challenge yourselves if you feel so strongly about it. It would be nice to see more difficult content come out for endgame players as someone who has completed everything myself but lets not make the difficulty so difficult that ONLY endgame players can complete it and everybody else gets left behind

    How are people left behind? Once they develop the rosters, they can also do the most difficult content. By that logic, Kabam cannot create any content since someone will always be left behind. There needs to be a goalpost for anyone to work towards. As it is, only AW seems to be the difficult content available for people who have explored everything.
    Goalposts require "skill". Roster breadth need not qualify for that. Difficulty is also subjective, what may be difficult for someone may not be for someone else. How do you quantify that? Make it "difficult" that you hope the players will be able to gain those "skills" later on? "skills" reduce items but lets not forget, a bunch of players will not be doing act6 at all. These "hard" pieces of content are better off as limited time events with decent rewards, the main lure being "the challenge of it".
    But people also need to develop the skill to tackle the difficult content. I am not saying there should be content geared towards end game players completely. But when I see the comment that you can use 3 stars to complete content, it just makes me wonder if the R3 rank ups I make are only useful for AW and not for actual content. I am currently exploring V1, its very frustrating, but its also very interesting to do.
  • SandPounderSandPounder Posts: 176
    Venom and Miles were not fun fights at all.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Posts: 1,883 ★★★★★

    Venom and Miles were not fun fights at all.

    Those were the only bosses that gave very mild discomfort 😂.
  • GmonkeyGmonkey Posts: 1,640 ★★★★
    It was fun not hard did not really look at paths except a couple (magik, havok).

  • Andyball270Andyball270 Posts: 233 ★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    I agree that from what ive run so far it does seem easy. However for the guys that are complaining its too easy you can make it a challenge for youselves if you REALLY want to make it difficult. Run it with 4 stars or r1-2 5 stars and challenge yourselves if you feel so strongly about it. It would be nice to see more difficult content come out for endgame players as someone who has completed everything myself but lets not make the difficulty so difficult that ONLY endgame players can complete it and everybody else gets left behind

    How are people left behind? Once they develop the rosters, they can also do the most difficult content. By that logic, Kabam cannot create any content since someone will always be left behind. There needs to be a goalpost for anyone to work towards. As it is, only AW seems to be the difficult content available for people who have explored everything.
    Well to me Variant has never been intended to be the most difficult content. Isnt that what abyss and lol was for? I think variant should be accessible to most of the player base to build to content such as abyss or act6/7 etc. And i agreed with the fact there should be more difficult content avaliable but i dont think thats what varients are intended to be
  • IKONIKON Posts: 1,034 ★★★★★
    edited April 15

    Pulyaman said:

    I agree that from what ive run so far it does seem easy. However for the guys that are complaining its too easy you can make it a challenge for youselves if you REALLY want to make it difficult. Run it with 4 stars or r1-2 5 stars and challenge yourselves if you feel so strongly about it. It would be nice to see more difficult content come out for endgame players as someone who has completed everything myself but lets not make the difficulty so difficult that ONLY endgame players can complete it and everybody else gets left behind

    How are people left behind? Once they develop the rosters, they can also do the most difficult content. By that logic, Kabam cannot create any content since someone will always be left behind. There needs to be a goalpost for anyone to work towards. As it is, only AW seems to be the difficult content available for people who have explored everything.
    Well to me Variant has never been intended to be the most difficult content. Isnt that what abyss and lol was for? I think variant should be accessible to most of the player base to build to content such as abyss or act6/7 etc. And i agreed with the fact there should be more difficult content avaliable but i dont think thats what varients are intended to be
    https://playcontestofchampions.com/dev-diary-added-difficulty/

    When introduced, Variants were meant to expand the endgame experience, as per the blog post.
  • Andyball270Andyball270 Posts: 233 ★★★
    I think the easy solution would be at this stage of the game maybe there needs to be 3 levels of difficulty for the back issues instead of 2 maybe
  • IKONIKON Posts: 1,034 ★★★★★

    IKON said:

    Pulyaman said:

    I agree that from what ive run so far it does seem easy. However for the guys that are complaining its too easy you can make it a challenge for youselves if you REALLY want to make it difficult. Run it with 4 stars or r1-2 5 stars and challenge yourselves if you feel so strongly about it. It would be nice to see more difficult content come out for endgame players as someone who has completed everything myself but lets not make the difficulty so difficult that ONLY endgame players can complete it and everybody else gets left behind

    How are people left behind? Once they develop the rosters, they can also do the most difficult content. By that logic, Kabam cannot create any content since someone will always be left behind. There needs to be a goalpost for anyone to work towards. As it is, only AW seems to be the difficult content available for people who have explored everything.
    Well to me Variant has never been intended to be the most difficult content. Isnt that what abyss and lol was for? I think variant should be accessible to most of the player base to build to content such as abyss or act6/7 etc. And i agreed with the fact there should be more difficult content avaliable but i dont think thats what varients are intended to be
    https://playcontestofchampions.com/dev-diary-added-difficulty/

    When introduced, they were meant to expand the endgame experience, as per the blog post.
    When introduced, 3 years ago, before abyss and act 6 or 7. There is quite a lot that has changed in the game since then. 90 percent of the player base complain and say that act 6 is too difficult and its very champion specific with nodes that dont reward the player but when they release 3 variants that give you the option of using a variety of champions with nodes that reward the player people say its too easy. To me the problem isnt this specific content being too easy becasue i think it needs to be playable by the majority of the player base there needs to be MORE content released that covers a wide variety of difficulty whilst still giving people the oppurtunity to build their rosters to tackle it. Maybe another difficulty of this content needs to be released or they need to release more than Varients and story content to fill the void we all have after the first week of the new EQ.
    Yes, but you said they were never intended for end game players, and that is provably false.
  • Ebony_NawEbony_Naw Posts: 1,714 ★★★★★

    IKON said:

    Pulyaman said:

    I agree that from what ive run so far it does seem easy. However for the guys that are complaining its too easy you can make it a challenge for youselves if you REALLY want to make it difficult. Run it with 4 stars or r1-2 5 stars and challenge yourselves if you feel so strongly about it. It would be nice to see more difficult content come out for endgame players as someone who has completed everything myself but lets not make the difficulty so difficult that ONLY endgame players can complete it and everybody else gets left behind

    How are people left behind? Once they develop the rosters, they can also do the most difficult content. By that logic, Kabam cannot create any content since someone will always be left behind. There needs to be a goalpost for anyone to work towards. As it is, only AW seems to be the difficult content available for people who have explored everything.
    Well to me Variant has never been intended to be the most difficult content. Isnt that what abyss and lol was for? I think variant should be accessible to most of the player base to build to content such as abyss or act6/7 etc. And i agreed with the fact there should be more difficult content avaliable but i dont think thats what varients are intended to be
    https://playcontestofchampions.com/dev-diary-added-difficulty/

    When introduced, they were meant to expand the endgame experience, as per the blog post.
    When introduced, 3 years ago, before abyss and act 6 or 7. There is quite a lot that has changed in the game since then. 90 percent of the player base complain and say that act 6 is too difficult and its very champion specific with nodes that dont reward the player but when they release 3 variants that give you the option of using a variety of champions with nodes that reward the player people say its too easy. To me the problem isnt this specific content being too easy becasue i think it needs to be playable by the majority of the player base there needs to be MORE content released that covers a wide variety of difficulty whilst still giving people the oppurtunity to build their rosters to tackle it. Maybe another difficulty of this content needs to be released or they need to release more than Varients and story content to fill the void we all have after the first week of the new EQ.
    The same was restated in the v5 intro thread when the rewards were buffed
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