Guillotine, A community choice champ and nerf? Are u happy with this buff?

Mobile_P0tat0

I'm surprised kabam hasn't commented about the guillotine feedback yet, the silence on their part is deafening.

Wicket329

Ranunculus said:

Nix2222 said:

Only response I’ve seen was they were going to bring it back to the team. I’m assuming there’s been conversations at Kabam since that. Any response/update would be great. Even if it’s that they are leaving the buff as is.

Where did you see that?

It’s on her champion spotlight thread. Just saying they were passing feedback along, nothing substantive.

I’d love to hear something, anything, in the next week. I know I’ve said this already, but I just want to understand what they set out to do with her. Was this the goal? If so, why? If not, what was? Where does she excel that she did not before? What in the world is pain split supposed to be used for offensively?

J0eySn0w

Ranunculus said:

I'm afraid that's all fan fic. Kabam won't change Guilly so drastically after all their work (even if their work isn't awesome) and they won't change her back. But I would like any comment from Kabam on this "buff" and perhaps a promise to make it better.

All their work? Sounds like a lot of work was put into Guillotine buff, so lemme ask you: What from this buff gives any indication that they put in a lot of thoughts and work into it?

Suicidebob1977

I really don’t understand the issue here. Hood wasn’t up to what people wanted, they said “our bad.” And they rolled it back. Far more people say they dropped the ball here, and “we’re looking into it.” Overall it comes across as them wanting from the start to nerf her level 3. She was my favorite champion in the game and they celebrated her being chosen by the community by nerfing her. If Kabam isn’t going to roll this back like Hood, it’s rank down ticket time.

Graves_3

At this point I suspect that the change to guilly is here to stay. If only kabam can acknowledge that, people can move on. Arguably it will be one the worst overhauls that they have done so far but if they at least let everyone know that the changes are here to stay, people can forget about this and that guilly even exists.

Ranunculus

J0eySn0w said:

Ranunculus said:

I'm afraid that's all fan fic. Kabam won't change Guilly so drastically after all their work (even if their work isn't awesome) and they won't change her back. But I would like any comment from Kabam on this "buff" and perhaps a promise to make it better.

All their work? Sounds like a lot of work was put into Guillotine buff, so lemme ask you: What from this buff gives any indication that they put in a lot of thoughts and work into it?

You are right. Kindof. But: The changes are considerable, someone went to great lengths to do it, even if it didn't turn out well (not at all). I'd LOVE to hear about the thought process that went into that. But even more, I would have a good champ.

MojoHater

Imran said:

Looks like another disappointment, just saw 2 full breakdown video.

100th agree... and yes she sucks rn.

Chovner

Still amazed at how badly this buff went when it had all the hype around it from the voting, community choices, arena votes, etc etc etc.... Then we have the recent Nebula and Karnak buffs, which had no long fanfare, or community involvement but Karnak's buff is pretty solid, and Nebula's buff is awesome....

I'll never be excited for any community voted anything.....

Denzel116

I took a break from the game shortly after the Gully “buff.” I was exhausted from the side quest grind, the constant 3 stars from crystals, and I looked forward to this rework.

Now that I’m slowly getting back in the swing of things, it’s refreshing to see people aren’t letting this die, and continue to ask for some solid communication from Kabam.

firemoon712

ShoNuff29 said:

It’s trash. Her regen was nerfed to the ground… then took a drill to push it even deeper

...I'm not touching that joke with a 6 foot pole.
But well said, as it does feel like she got screwed over.
I was one of the ones highly dedicated for her buff to do that arena.
Now I wish it was Ant-Man who won even tho everyone would've just used Ghost instead.

J0eySn0w

Ranunculus said:

J0eySn0w said:

Ranunculus said:

I'm afraid that's all fan fic. Kabam won't change Guilly so drastically after all their work (even if their work isn't awesome) and they won't change her back. But I would like any comment from Kabam on this "buff" and perhaps a promise to make it better.

All their work? Sounds like a lot of work was put into Guillotine buff, so lemme ask you: What from this buff gives any indication that they put in a lot of thoughts and work into it?

You are right. Kindof. But: The changes are considerable, someone went to great lengths to do it, even if it didn't turn out well (not at all). I'd LOVE to hear about the thought process that went into that. But even more, I would have a good champ.

A lot of guys in this community can come up with a better buff than this within a few days. They can either base it on her previous ability and mechanic or come up with completely different one. All they'll be missing is a test platform to see how she interacts and plays. I dunno how much time they dedicated for her buff but it feels kinda oh lets wrap up this real quick we almost forgot she goes live soon. Think about it, she's been nerfed kinda. Guillotine with synergies before is better than her now.

Ranunculus

J0eySn0w said:

Ranunculus said:

J0eySn0w said:

Ranunculus said:

I'm afraid that's all fan fic. Kabam won't change Guilly so drastically after all their work (even if their work isn't awesome) and they won't change her back. But I would like any comment from Kabam on this "buff" and perhaps a promise to make it better.

All their work? Sounds like a lot of work was put into Guillotine buff, so lemme ask you: What from this buff gives any indication that they put in a lot of thoughts and work into it?

You are right. Kindof. But: The changes are considerable, someone went to great lengths to do it, even if it didn't turn out well (not at all). I'd LOVE to hear about the thought process that went into that. But even more, I would have a good champ.

A lot of guys in this community can come up with a better buff than this within a few days. They can either base it on her previous ability and mechanic or come up with completely different one. All they'll be missing is a test platform to see how she interacts and plays. I dunno how much time they dedicated for her buff but it feels kinda oh lets wrap up this real quick we almost forgot she goes live soon. Think about it, she's been nerfed kinda. Guillotine with synergies before is better than her now.

I don’t disagree, some drafts seem way better than that what we have gotten. Don’t forget though that there is more to it than write a champion‘s description sheet.

Konstant45

I like how no one is letting this thread die
Keep it up bois and gals

Kabam Boo

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and concerns on the subject, folks. We sincerely apologise for the delay. We will endeavour to clarify any and all confusion surrounding this subject in the very near future. Please bear with us and we will be back with more information very soon. Thank you in advance for your continued patience.

Konstant45

Kabam Boo said:

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and concerns on the subject, folks. We sincerely apologise for the delay. We will endeavour to clarify any and all confusion surrounding this subject in the very near future. Please bear with us and we will be back with more information very soon. Thank you in advance for your continued patience.

Well atleast we got something

FadedDragon999

Thank you for finally answering! All we wanted was an answer. We can finally have an clarity soon

J0eySn0w

Ranunculus said:

J0eySn0w said:

Ranunculus said:

J0eySn0w said:

Ranunculus said:

I'm afraid that's all fan fic. Kabam won't change Guilly so drastically after all their work (even if their work isn't awesome) and they won't change her back. But I would like any comment from Kabam on this "buff" and perhaps a promise to make it better.

All their work? Sounds like a lot of work was put into Guillotine buff, so lemme ask you: What from this buff gives any indication that they put in a lot of thoughts and work into it?

You are right. Kindof. But: The changes are considerable, someone went to great lengths to do it, even if it didn't turn out well (not at all). I'd LOVE to hear about the thought process that went into that. But even more, I would have a good champ.

A lot of guys in this community can come up with a better buff than this within a few days. They can either base it on her previous ability and mechanic or come up with completely different one. All they'll be missing is a test platform to see how she interacts and plays. I dunno how much time they dedicated for her buff but it feels kinda oh lets wrap up this real quick we almost forgot she goes live soon. Think about it, she's been nerfed kinda. Guillotine with synergies before is better than her now.

I don’t disagree, some drafts seem way better than that what we have gotten. Don’t forget though that there is more to it than write a champion‘s description sheet.

Yeah, I agree there's more to it than writing descriptions but it's still an important part of it. And you can only come up with one after you've thought deeply about the character and what you want it to be able to do or purpose to serve. Let's not forget the process and time it took for us to arrive at a Guillotine buff. You know it so no need to say much on it. I think it's enough time and only fair for us to get a buff worthy of it. Not this mediocre buff that waste away in our rosters. Glad we head something from the team.

Daddrieda

kabam is doing too many project at the same time. might be why Guillotine is not shiny as we all hoped?

Grub

Daddrieda said:

kabam is doing too many project at the same time. might be why Guillotine is not shiny as we all hoped?

Maybe they should hire more people considering the money we dump into this addiction.

Kabam Boo

Hi folks, here's our latest post with some clarification on the subject: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/286598/community-choice-buff-guillotine-clarification-live-ama-with-a-very-special-kabam-dev/p1?new=1

We hope you'll join @Kabam John and myself at the live AMA tomorrow! Check the post for more details!

Morpheus_123

No. End of story.

Raganator

Kabam telling us why they think she is good now will not make it so.

TheBair123

i love how they go ahead and say "we're happy with how she is" and then literally show 2 graphs that show how her regen got substantially worse

Rockypantherx

The regen is the only issue with the new kit?

Geez, between Guillotine, Thor Rags, Sersi, and arguably Ikaris, I’m starting to think someone has a seething hatred for giving champs utility.

You can give me as many flashy red and yellow numbers as you want, I don’t care if the champ adds nothing to my roster.

Fixing the regen won’t fix that.

But it’s a step in the right direction I suppose.