Costs of 7* crystals revealed!!

The cost of a 7* crystal is 15,000 shards. Opinions?

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Here's the thing, where's the biggest source of 6* dupes giving 7* shards? Cuz it ain't from rewards from content forming 6 star crystals, its the infinite amount of cav crystals/mythic crystals that spenders can infinitely purchase. The average endgame player probably still doesn't have every 6* champion and not every pull is a dupe that gives 7* shards.

Don't tempt DNA, they'll run the numbers telling you the average number of crystals you'd need to open to get all the champions in the basic pool. (I'll give a hint, statistically you have to open about 91 crystals to get all 24 champions in the featured crystal on average)

Hector_1475

The introduction of a different ingame currency to acquire newly released 7* champions, can only have one motive and this motive is monetization. This is not a debatable opinion, this is an undisputed fact. If this is a good thing or a bad thing for the game or the company in itself is a different discussion and remains to be seen. But the motive behind this is one. Everyone says otherwise, sorry, either works for Kabam or is delusional.
Monetized or not, it's a good idea regardless. Now, everyone will get opportunities to get a new 7* no matter where they are at progression wise or when they decide to open a titan crystal.

How on earth do you know that "anyone" will have realistic access to Titan shards and you have already decided the above? The average FtP and low spender will have to play for ages, to be able to open enough 7* (costing 15k shards btw) crystals, in order to get enough Titan shards to open one of them. Unless by "everyone" you mean "everyone with sufficient spending through the whole year whaling events that are constantly released".

Stellar

The introduction of a different ingame currency to acquire newly released 7* champions, can only have one motive and this motive is monetization. This is not a debatable opinion, this is an undisputed fact. If this is a good thing or a bad thing for the game or the company in itself is a different discussion and remains to be seen. But the motive behind this is one. Everyone says otherwise, sorry, either works for Kabam or is delusional.

Not debatable ? Undisputed fact ?

Or maybe it is not monetization but only to be sure it will take years for players to collect all champions ? 🤷‍♂️

Buttehrs

The introduction of a different ingame currency to acquire newly released 7* champions, can only have one motive and this motive is monetization. This is not a debatable opinion, this is an undisputed fact. If this is a good thing or a bad thing for the game or the company in itself is a different discussion and remains to be seen. But the motive behind this is one. Everyone says otherwise, sorry, either works for Kabam or is delusional.
Monetized or not, it's a good idea regardless. Now, everyone will get opportunities to get a new 7* no matter where they are at progression wise or when they decide to open a titan crystal.
How on earth do you know that "anyone" will have realistic access to Titan shards and you have already decided the above? The average FtP and low spender will have to play for ages, to be able to open enough 7* (costing 15k shards btw) crystals, in order to get enough Titan shards to open one of them. Unless by "everyone" you mean "everyone with sufficient spending through the whole year whaling events that are constantly released".

Because kabam has already said that rewards will scale in accordance with 7* release. That would include 7* in content, eventually. Why would it be any different from 6* now? At some point you'll open a 7* monthly or more even As a ftp. Just not immediately.

Cyta

Looking back at story content, 6.1 was the first chapter to give 6* shards...2k for completion, 4k for exploration. so 60% of a 6* crystal. 8.2 is the first to give 7* shards, so with the scale it would have to be 9k? For completion they give 1k. Should we believe that they initially wanted to give out 666.66 shards but they scaled it to 1k ? I want to believe, but math doesnt agree

DrZola

Hey everybody,

We wanted to clarify something as it doesn't appear we were clear in this morning's stream.

The reason 7* crystals cost 15,000 shards is because of the number of 7* shards players are generating from 6* dupes. When we looked at the data, we saw that players are currently generating more 7* shards through dupes than they were acquiring 6* shards from all sources when 6*s launched.

This is because of the way rewards have stacked across four Progresson Groups that are all currently chasing 6*s, with 6* rewards in content for Uncollected, Cavalier, Thronebreaker and Paragon players. This was the inevitable result of the longer gap between the introduction of 6* and 7* champions compared to previous rarities.

This dynamic meant that we had to change something about our plans for 7*s. We didn't want to dilute the 7* pool with lower quality champions, we didn't want to reduce the number of 7* shards players could earn through content, and we didn't want to have to ration 6* shards in content such as the upcoming Paragon difficulty Side Quest (more info on this soon).

So the only real option we had was to increase the cost of the 7* crystal. We have scaled 7* rewards to match this new cost. For instance, AW Rank 1 will still grant a full 7* crystal the next time AW rewards are updated, as was always the plan. However, the 7* shards you get for duping a 6* will remain the same, as reducing that ratio was the whole purpose of the decision to price the 7* crystal at 15,000 shards.
Thx tor the clarification on the cost of 7 stars.

The stream in which Jax and Aidan presented the new 7 stars and the Act 8.2 didn't answered all the questions we could have. Maybe you could answer those questions ?

- What will be the cost to rank up a 7 stars to rank 2 ?

- When will we see this basic pool of 7 stars expand ?

- At what rate will new champions be included into the basic pool ?

- What will be the cost of the futur paragon crystal ? When will it be release ? Will it have the same odd to get a 7 stars as the Thronebreaker one for 6 stars ?

- Jax said the new Titan crystal (7 stars featured crystal) will take time to release. Can we know approximately how many time ?

- As people will start expanding their roster with 7 stars, will we see some new difficulties arrive ? AQ9 ? EQ Paragon level ? SQ Paragon level ? New content abyss like difficulty ?

- What about those exclusive champions like Scarlet Witch Sigil, unstoppable Colossus (he really need a good rework), Punisher, immortal iron fist, GoldPool, PlatinumPool, DeadPool, Jessica Jones, Thanos, Weapon X, Kang, will they get their 7 stars versions ? Will some of those available in the Black Iso Market with Scarlet Witch Sigil ?

Thx for reading and providing answer if you can

Excellent question re: rate of addition of 7* champs to basic pool. That directly affects the ability of the *average* veteran to be able to build toward Titan crystals, which I assume will be the primary free way to get featured 7* champs.

Dr. Zola

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MrFullStop

So the main source for 7* shards is content, yet, the only content the provide it is in 4 days, and by doing it 100% you get 26.6% of a 7*, then you wait for 7 more months for 8.3 to get the rest of the shards to get 1 7*, I'm so excited 😆😆

If you were honest (rewards will scale accordingly), it would've been at least 50-60% of a 7* SMH

GinjabredMonsta

So, who wants to bet 8* will cost 25k and a 10* will cost 100k*?

If they follow the pattern, 8*s if they ever exist, would be 15k.

Y’all also have to remember that getting 6* shards wasn’t as easily available as it is now.

Demonzfyre

So the main source for 7* shards is content, yet, the only content the provide it is in 4 days, and by doing it 100% you get 26.6% of a 7*, then you wait for 7 more months for 8.3 to get the rest of the shards to get 1 7*, I'm so excited 😆😆

If you were honest (rewards will scale accordingly), it would've been at least 50-60% of a 7* SMH

8.2 is the 2nd place we'll see 7* shards. We've been getting them from dupes for months now. They have a Paragon SQ planned and I'm sure there will be other pieces of content with them. Possible updates to BG/Sigil stores.

Y'all make up these weird scenarios like this that are based in feelings instead of fact and then act the world is ending.

Ravens20

While watching the video I was thinking are they going to mention the Ascension part to make our 5 and 6 star champs better, if Im not mistaken they did say these would be released around the same time as 7 stars or shortly after someone correct me if I'm wrong, I was also hoping they would've showed the bast stat for a 7 star R1 at Max level and how it scale with 6 stars, while I appreciate the live videos and the interaction I hope they stick to certain points and details because with an even this big there's so much unknown or people just trying to calculate what the base stats will be compared to 6 stars example a 6 star at R1 max level is like 5 star R4 plus since the stats are a lil higher than a r4 but not as high as R5.

Cyta

They have a Paragon SQ planned and I'm sure there will be other pieces of content with them. Possible updates to BG/Sigil stores.

Who is making wild scenarios, coz its not rly clear...you or him?! was anything like that being announced? Not really... and 8.2 is the FIRST CONTENT place...not 2nd...

Demonzfyre

They have a Paragon SQ planned and I'm sure there will be other pieces of content with them. Possible updates to BG/Sigil stores.
Who is making wild scenarios, coz its not rly clear...you or him?! was anything like that being announced? Not really... and 8.2 is the FIRST CONTENT place...not 2nd...

We've been getting 7* shards from 6* dupes for months my guy. That's the FIRST place to get them. The 2nd place will be 8.2.

In Miikes comment in this thread, he mentions the Paragon Side Quest that's coming soon.

Cyta

He was talking about content, not dupes..do you consider duping a champ content?!

Cyta

As for paragon side quest, what we know from that comment is that info is coming soon...the quest can be coming in autumn or in 5 years..lets not make wild scenarios

Buttehrs

He was talking about content, not dupes..do you consider duping a champ content?!

Technically any part of the game, be it duping champs or quests etc, are considered content.

Cyta

He was talking about content, not dupes..do you consider duping a champ content?!
Technically any part of the game, be it duping champs or quests etc, are considered content.

Dont want to sound harsh, but I wish that all that think like you to grab their 7* shards only from dupes and buyin odins (its a part of game, so yeah...content!)

Buttehrs

He was talking about content, not dupes..do you consider duping a champ content?!
Technically any part of the game, be it duping champs or quests etc, are considered content.
Dont want to sound harsh, but I wish that all that think like you to grab their 7* shards only from dupes and buyin odins (its a part of game, so yeah...content!)

Nah you just sound like someone who doesn't understand video games or coding.

Cyta

He was talking about content, not dupes..do you consider duping a champ content?!
Technically any part of the game, be it duping champs or quests etc, are considered content.
Dont want to sound harsh, but I wish that all that think like you to grab their 7* shards only from dupes and buyin odins (its a part of game, so yeah...content!)
Nah you just sound like someone who doesn't understand video games or coding.

I'm a gamer since the 90s and on my diploma its written programmer, but for this game and ppl like you its clearly not enough

Buttehrs

We didn't want to dilute the 7* pool with lower quality champions
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Could not be more wrong yourself. No, there aren't any of the most wanted in the first batch, but every single champ there is useful in some fashion. There aren't any 100% duds.

Buttehrs

He was talking about content, not dupes..do you consider duping a champ content?!
Technically any part of the game, be it duping champs or quests etc, are considered content.
Dont want to sound harsh, but I wish that all that think like you to grab their 7* shards only from dupes and buyin odins (its a part of game, so yeah...content!)
Nah you just sound like someone who doesn't understand video games or coding.
I'm a gamer since the 90s and on my diploma its written programmer, but for this game and ppl like you its clearly not enough

Then you should know that anything created via code for a game or system of a game itself is considered content or a feature. Now you sound entitled. And that's even worse.

bdawg923

We didn't want to dilute the 7* pool with lower quality champions
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Could not be more wrong yourself. No, there aren't any of the most wanted in the first batch, but every single champ there is useful in some fashion. There aren't any 100% duds.

Could not be more wrong yourself. There are way too many 100% duds. Unless you're like cav with all 5 star duds, there's not much to be excited about in this pool. I would rather use my 5* god-tier champs than most champs in this pool to be honest.

Cyta

This is stupid and will drop the subject as we all know what is considered content and not just technical. Either way, it wont change the fact that the 1st appearance of this shards in STORY content didnt scale as 6* did when they 1st appeared in STORY content. I do agree on the pool tho...might not be best, but its not worst either...lets call it balanced

Buttehrs

We didn't want to dilute the 7* pool with lower quality champions
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Could not be more wrong yourself. No, there aren't any of the most wanted in the first batch, but every single champ there is useful in some fashion. There aren't any 100% duds.
Could not be more wrong yourself. There are way too many 100% duds. Unless you're like cav with all 5 star duds, there's not much to be excited about in this pool. I would rather use my 5* god-tier champs than most champs in this pool to be honest.

That's just your mentality. It's wrong, but that's ok. Consider this, falcon shuts down almost any annoying nodes/abilities in the game. People still fear fighting domino's. I can go on. The Stat levels alone will make using 5 and most 6* pointless, especially once you can take a 7* to r2 which probably won't be too far away. But sure, continue to be blind and say Id rAtHeR uSe mY 5*.

GroundedWisdom

We didn't want to dilute the 7* pool with lower quality champions
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This pool is a leap from the first 6* pool, so that's a disagree from me.

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Buttehrs

So we will have to dupe 6 stars 55 times instead of 37 to get a 7 stars and dupe 7 stars 55 times to get a featured 7 stars (Titan crystal) ?
If duping 6*'s was the only way to get 7* shards, yes. 55/56 times or less for max sig 6*'s.

But you're not just getting them from 6* dupes. You'll get them in content as well. That's how you get 6* shards. Weird concept but thankfully Kabam thought of a way to get 6 and 7 star shards outside of duping champs. I don't know how they thought of it though.
What other ways. You mean like the whopping 4k shards we get for Act 8.2?

Sure, because 8.2 is the last place you'll ever see 7* shards again.

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bdawg923

We didn't want to dilute the 7* pool with lower quality champions
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Could not be more wrong yourself. No, there aren't any of the most wanted in the first batch, but every single champ there is useful in some fashion. There aren't any 100% duds.
Could not be more wrong yourself. There are way too many 100% duds. Unless you're like cav with all 5 star duds, there's not much to be excited about in this pool. I would rather use my 5* god-tier champs than most champs in this pool to be honest.
That's just your mentality. It's wrong, but that's ok. Consider this, falcon shuts down almost any annoying nodes/abilities in the game. People still fear fighting domino's. I can go on. The Stat levels alone will make using 5 and most 6* pointless, especially once you can take a 7* to r2 which probably won't be too far away. But sure, continue to be blind and say Id rAtHeR uSe mY 5*.

Could not be more wrong yourself. Nobody is afraid to fight an unduped domino. r2 is months and months away. I would rather use a 5* sig 200 herc than almost anyone in that crystal as a r1 unduped champ.

Looking at the pool, here are the useless champs (I would rather use a god tier 5* sig 200 instead of anyone here): rocket, war machine, mysterio, imiw (very dangerous if you're new to the game I guess), korg (needs dupe), killmonger, surfer, gamora, terrax (F in chat), hulk, fixit, spidergwen, spiderman, gambit, storm x, dragoman, mangog, chavez

Champs that are sort of useful in some situations (I would rather use a god tier 5* sig 200 instead of anyone here): g2099, venom duck, overseer, titania, sauron, bishop, sunspot, wong, sasquatch

Useful (I would prob use a god tier 5* sig 200 instead of anyone here still): domino (but not on defense if unduped), elsa, falcon, venom, gorr, wiccan

Haven't used but are probably useless in their current form due to kabam admitting they need a buff: shuri, mantis

It's ok if you don't have any god tier 5* sig 200 champs you can use. You'll pull someone good soon bud.

GinjabredMonsta

We didn't want to dilute the 7* pool with lower quality champions
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Not even