I don’t understand why they want to go forward with starting a season next week when there has only been one preseason war that a lot of folks have been confused by and no extra communication from the team to help explain any of the questions/concerns.
This also means: Your defenders will no longer be locked to AW and can still be used in Solo content!
2 questions:
Are defenders usable in aq?
Are attackers supposed to be unlocked as well? (my war attacker was usable in event quest today)
1. No. AW defenders are usable in solo content (story, EQ, SQ, etc.) but not in AQ.
2. According to the initial post, only defenders should be unlocked for solo content. Attackers should be locked for all content while attack phase is up (before you complete the map and release your defenders). Haven't had a chance to test this one, so I'm not sure if it's working that way or not.
Having confusion over War. We had a victory that was a bit confusing. Especially since I didn't actually use one of my accounts to get MVP 3rd place. Here is the Line App conversation.
Defender Diversity = 8. So probably only had 2 or 3 people in for Defense (maybe a couple more max on offense ?)
And wonder how one of only 3 or 4 people could have ended up 3rd place MVP for that war ? (didn’t do xxxxx, well if nobody else was in the war, yes defenders do contribute towards calculation of being MVP, even if they never got in attack).
What a nightmare. Definitely not easier. And 2 days for attack phase is a little ridiculous. No reason it should be that long. Sometimes that ol saying of if it ain't broke don't fix it really should be applied. Do us all a favor. Revert back to what was working. Listen to the community and realize the overwhelming of us don't like this. How about y'all listen to us for a change? Especially with the amount of mess ups y'all been having recently. Sure would go a long way for some of us. @Kabam Miike
This game is dead right now. I don’t mean that in a knee jerk “this game is dying” way that we do every time there’s a bug or a deal for whales. I mean it’s lacking content.
Right now, I’ve got no AQ, war or BGs. No story content to conquer besides act 6 (not remotely worth it). Basically just abyss and LOL Carina challenges left. Even when AQ resumes, the reward are painfully dated.
I’m surprised and disappointed that there hasn’t been any kind of special anything this summer. On the heels of Gauntlet, EOP and SOP, I don’t get it.
Please get rid of the new system, everything has gone worse in the name of QOL update to wars. When comparing things, the old system was way better than this. It literally shreds the arena grinders with the new auto placement system, where we never ever knew when the match making is happening to reset the mastery. So dumb move.
Most of my alliance is filled with members from India, where the match making starts at 2-3AM in the morning and no one will be awake to reset the mastery when the switchover happens. We are even ready to invest on a separate deck with 1K units one time investment as you guys did for BGs just for the sake of placements
It really is a huge mess. Could have been good if more thought was put into it. Masteries. Timezones. Changing number of bg in war. Alas. None of these things were considered. Or they were and determined to not be an issue. Not sure what’s worse.
Most of my alliance is filled with members from India, where the match making starts at 2-3AM in the morning and no one will be awake to reset the mastery when the switchover happens. We are even ready to invest on a separate deck with 1K units one time investment as you guys did for BGs just for the sake of placements
Why do you need to wait until matchmaking starts in order to change masteries ?
Can they not just do it earlier, after they are done for the day, before stopping for the evening ?
Most of my alliance is filled with members from India, where the match making starts at 2-3AM in the morning and no one will be awake to reset the mastery when the switchover happens. We are even ready to invest on a separate deck with 1K units one time investment as you guys did for BGs just for the sake of placements
Why do you need to wait until matchmaking starts in order to change masteries ?
Can they not just do it earlier, after they are done for the day, before stopping for the evening ?
Do you know when is the end of the day for arena grinders who go for champs - my alliance members go for champs in arena - so we need to concentrate on the reset time of the champs - and as you say there is no same cooldown time (by clock) every day
Arena cooldown doesn’t work on 6 hours and 12 hours standard period to be stopping and starting the grind exactly as you said
Most of my alliance is filled with members from India, where the match making starts at 2-3AM in the morning and no one will be awake to reset the mastery when the switchover happens. We are even ready to invest on a separate deck with 1K units one time investment as you guys did for BGs just for the sake of placements
Why do you need to wait until matchmaking starts in order to change masteries ?
Can they not just do it earlier, after they are done for the day, before stopping for the evening ?
Do you know when is the end of the day for arena grinders who go for champs - my alliance members go for champs in arena - so we need to concentrate on the reset time of the champs - and as you say there is no same cooldown time (by clock) every day
Arena cooldown doesn’t work on 6 hours and 12 hours standard period to be stopping and starting the grind exactly as you said
Your point was that for India the Matchmaking time is 2-3 AM in early morning (late night) when your players are NOT awake. So how can they be doing Arena when they are NOT awake ?
So my points is that, if they are going to be sleeping when matchmaking happens, they can just change masteries BEFORE going to sleep (doesn’t matter if exactly right at matchmaking time, or if couple hours beforehand, or even 8 hours beforehand) from when matchmaking begins.
Unless you are unknowingly saying that they are using “mods” to automatically continue to play arena on there devices while they are sleeping. But I’m sure you are not admitting that to be the case 😀
It would actually be more of an issue for those timezones where people are “really” awake, and actually playing, they would have to stop their Arena, switch masteries, have AW start, then switch back and continue arena.
Most of my alliance is filled with members from India, where the match making starts at 2-3AM in the morning and no one will be awake to reset the mastery when the switchover happens. We are even ready to invest on a separate deck with 1K units one time investment as you guys did for BGs just for the sake of placements
Why do you need to wait until matchmaking starts in order to change masteries ?
Can they not just do it earlier, after they are done for the day, before stopping for the evening ?
Do you know when is the end of the day for arena grinders who go for champs - my alliance members go for champs in arena - so we need to concentrate on the reset time of the champs - and as you say there is no same cooldown time (by clock) every day
Arena cooldown doesn’t work on 6 hours and 12 hours standard period to be stopping and starting the grind exactly as you said
Your point was that for India the Matchmaking time is 2-3 AM in early morning (late night) when your players are NOT awake. So how can they be doing Arena when they are NOT awake ?
So my points is that, if they are going to be sleeping when matchmaking happens, they can just change masteries BEFORE going to sleep (doesn’t matter if exactly right at matchmaking time, or if couple hours beforehand, or even 8 hours beforehand) from when matchmaking begins.
Unless you are unknowingly saying that they are using “mods” to automatically continue to play arena on there devices while they are sleeping. But I’m sure you are not admitting that to be the case 😀
It would actually be more of an issue for those timezones where people are “really” awake, and actually playing, they would have to stop their Arena, switch masteries, have AW start, then switch back and continue arena.
I sleep at 4 in the morning mate, as per your point it is not a necessary for everyone to go to bed at 10PM and wake up at 6AM
We woke up odd times keeping alarm and do arenas. When it was the old placement stages we used to reset the masteries when the arena champs are at cooldown and reset back but this placement of new system does automatically when we don’t even know when it happens. Matchmaking is a process of 4 hours of time where anytime in between it can happen. There is no liberty for us to choose. And talking about bots to run arena, we keep alarms and do things, we are doing that for so many years of hard grinding. Even 10 minutes of break in between the arena grind mess up the whole rotation
We have 72 hours for arena grind We exactly have 11 rounds that can be done if we start on time . If anywhere it messes up the 11th round of arena gets disturbed. Even a 10 min of break in between the arena will disturb the same 10 min on all the upcoming rounds because the cooldown delays by that time. Since you are not a hardcore grinder you know nothing about it and will never make sense to you. Be one to face the problems before talking. No hardcore grinders who go for champ sleep on schedule when arena happens as you suggest
We are not the ones you spend $$$ to get units to maintain our roster to keep up with others. Every bit of battlechips we earn makes sense to us.
Never ever accuse anyone to be modding arena without practically knowing the sleep schedule of us hardcore grinders. Or may be you might be one so you know a lot about it.
Most of my alliance is filled with members from India, where the match making starts at 2-3AM in the morning and no one will be awake to reset the mastery when the switchover happens. We are even ready to invest on a separate deck with 1K units one time investment as you guys did for BGs just for the sake of placements
Why do you need to wait until matchmaking starts in order to change masteries ?
Can they not just do it earlier, after they are done for the day, before stopping for the evening ?
Do you know when is the end of the day for arena grinders who go for champs - my alliance members go for champs in arena - so we need to concentrate on the reset time of the champs - and as you say there is no same cooldown time (by clock) every day
Arena cooldown doesn’t work on 6 hours and 12 hours standard period to be stopping and starting the grind exactly as you said
Your point was that for India the Matchmaking time is 2-3 AM in early morning (late night) when your players are NOT awake. So how can they be doing Arena when they are NOT awake ?
So my points is that, if they are going to be sleeping when matchmaking happens, they can just change masteries BEFORE going to sleep (doesn’t matter if exactly right at matchmaking time, or if couple hours beforehand, or even 8 hours beforehand) from when matchmaking begins.
Unless you are unknowingly saying that they are using “mods” to automatically continue to play arena on there devices while they are sleeping. But I’m sure you are not admitting that to be the case 😀
It would actually be more of an issue for those timezones where people are “really” awake, and actually playing, they would have to stop their Arena, switch masteries, have AW start, then switch back and continue arena.
Oh I now get your point, so everyone who does champ grind should stream on YouTube for you to prove they are not modding. Well nice BS thought, keep it with yourself.
. Everyone has that same issue, because that unfortunately is how it is currently working (hopefully will be changed).
Any persistent defenders placed, even if only under either the potential +/- Tier Map defense, and no matter whether war attack is currently going on or not, or if your BG has defeated boss and attackers got released, or even no matter whether Matchmaking is currently disabled, (like currently), or even if War mode itself is totally disabled (like earlier), anyone placed as a defender is locked out from being used in AQ.
what i will say that has proven true is that having all of this attack time is crazy. even with whatever time zone differences people spouted, it's a LONG time in the attack phase now and my alliance specifically has been twiddlin' our thumbs with hours and hours left.
i mentioned this when the new time for attack phase was first announced and no one seemed to think it was a concern. everyone was so stuck on the supposed benefit this gave Master alliances for planning. well not everyone is in a Master's alliance.
i actually quite enjoy the new persistent thing and what it could be so hopefully things get ironed out.
. Everyone has that same issue, because that unfortunately is how it is currently working (hopefully will be changed).
Any persistent defenders placed, even if only under either the potential +/- Tier Map defense, and no matter whether war attack is currently going on or not, or if your BG has defeated boss and attackers got released, or even no matter whether Matchmaking is currently disabled, (like currently), or even if War mode itself is totally disabled (like earlier), anyone placed as a defender is locked out from being used in AQ.
The system is so complicated, no average summoner will understand this
Let alone those people who are not on the forums (majority)
. Everyone has that same issue, because that unfortunately is how it is currently working (hopefully will be changed).
Any persistent defenders placed, even if only under either the potential +/- Tier Map defense, and no matter whether war attack is currently going on or not, or if your BG has defeated boss and attackers got released, or even no matter whether Matchmaking is currently disabled, (like currently), or even if War mode itself is totally disabled (like earlier), anyone placed as a defender is locked out from being used in AQ.
The system is so complicated, no average summoner will understand this
Let alone those people who are not on the forums (majority)
From day 1 there have been complications and issues happening with the placement stages and is been addressed in other thread too “War Placement”. lot of issues overlooked which affect other modes of the game from no of bgs differing in Off-season to on-season even after enlistment of less no of bgs. Champs getting locked even after the official post mentioned the champs will not be locked on any mode.
Every step they try to take forward pushes them 5 steps back and have to redo things. As a programmer I can feel the complications of things redoing than creating an new one. Every module/function is interlinked to many modules when altered effect all the other links. No same programmer works on the same module everytime which creates a void in the links due to the manpower allocation. Can understand things happening.
Compensation or not, doesn’t matter but need of solution to all these issues is the most worrisome thing at the moment.
They can take more time to fix things before perfect launch of one of the competitive modes in this game
Ugh... This is draining. A little over one day to go, and still no update on another delay or any details regarding what's going on, smh. As an alliance Leader that's been trying to keep things organized and everyone updated during all of this, it's been rough, to be kind... Probably my worst experience yet with War in the 5+ total years I've played MCOC. Respectfully, in my opinion, please: - scrub the currently already delayed Season 43 altogether - send compensation equal to last seasons adjusted final results to all current members - take the time you need to fix everything - then start next season (44) early if you want/can I don't feel like this is too much or farfetched, and gives everyone the time they want/need to adjust to/fix all of this. Good luck, Kabam!
Can we get a full 2 weeks of offseason with no issues before starting the real season? Honestly need the time to wake people up right now… this long lull is getting to people.
This also means: Your defenders will no longer be locked to AW and can still be used in Solo content!
2 questions:
Are defenders usable in aq?
Are attackers supposed to be unlocked as well? (my war attacker was usable in event quest today)
1. No. AW defenders are usable in solo content (story, EQ, SQ, etc.) but not in AQ.
2. According to the initial post, only defenders should be unlocked for solo content. Attackers should be locked for all content while attack phase is up (before you complete the map and release your defenders). Haven't had a chance to test this one, so I'm not sure if it's working that way or not.
Last off season war my war attacker was available for use in eq
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2 questions:
Are defenders usable in aq?
Are attackers supposed to be unlocked as well? (my war attacker was usable in event quest today)
2. According to the initial post, only defenders should be unlocked for solo content. Attackers should be locked for all content while attack phase is up (before you complete the map and release your defenders). Haven't had a chance to test this one, so I'm not sure if it's working that way or not.
So probably only had 2 or 3 people in for Defense (maybe a couple more max on offense ?)
And wonder how one of only 3 or 4 people could have ended up 3rd place MVP for that war ?
(didn’t do xxxxx, well if nobody else was in the war, yes defenders do contribute towards calculation of being MVP, even if they never got in attack).
@Kabam Miike
Right now, I’ve got no AQ, war or BGs. No story content to conquer besides act 6 (not remotely worth it). Basically just abyss and LOL Carina challenges left. Even when AQ resumes, the reward are painfully dated.
I’m surprised and disappointed that there hasn’t been any kind of special anything this summer. On the heels of Gauntlet, EOP and SOP, I don’t get it.
PLEASE ROLL BACK
Hopefully they just go back to how it was before.
What we need in war is new maps, nodes, not this new persistent headache thing
Can they not just do it earlier, after they are done for the day, before stopping for the evening ?
We just won a war and got a message someone left 54 years ago, yep it's all working as intended.
Arena cooldown doesn’t work on 6 hours and 12 hours standard period to be stopping and starting the grind exactly as you said
So my points is that, if they are going to be sleeping when matchmaking happens, they can just change masteries BEFORE going to sleep (doesn’t matter if exactly right at matchmaking time, or if couple hours beforehand, or even 8 hours beforehand) from when matchmaking begins.
Unless you are unknowingly saying that they are using “mods” to automatically continue to play arena on there devices while they are sleeping. But I’m sure you are not admitting that to be the case 😀
It would actually be more of an issue for those timezones where people are “really” awake, and actually playing, they would have to stop their Arena, switch masteries, have AW start, then switch back and continue arena.
We woke up odd times keeping alarm and do arenas. When it was the old placement stages we used to reset the masteries when the arena champs are at cooldown and reset back but this placement of new system does automatically when we don’t even know when it happens. Matchmaking is a process of 4 hours of time where anytime in between it can happen. There is no liberty for us to choose. And talking about bots to run arena, we keep alarms and do things, we are doing that for so many years of hard grinding. Even 10 minutes of break in between the arena grind mess up the whole rotation
We have 72 hours for arena grind
We exactly have 11 rounds that can be done if we start on time . If anywhere it messes up the 11th round of arena gets disturbed. Even a 10 min of break in between the arena will disturb the same 10 min on all the upcoming rounds because the cooldown delays by that time.
Since you are not a hardcore grinder you know nothing about it and will never make sense to you. Be one to face the problems before talking.
No hardcore grinders who go for champ sleep on schedule when arena happens as you suggest
We are not the ones you spend $$$ to get units to maintain our roster to keep up with others. Every bit of battlechips we earn makes sense to us.
Never ever accuse anyone to be modding arena without practically knowing the sleep schedule of us hardcore grinders. Or may be you might be one so you know a lot about it.
Everyone has that same issue, because that unfortunately is how it is currently working (hopefully will be changed).
Any persistent defenders placed, even if only under either the potential +/- Tier Map defense, and no matter whether war attack is currently going on or not, or if your BG has defeated boss and attackers got released, or even no matter whether Matchmaking is currently disabled, (like currently), or even if War mode itself is totally disabled (like earlier), anyone placed as a defender is locked out from being used in AQ.
i mentioned this when the new time for attack phase was first announced and no one seemed to think it was a concern. everyone was so stuck on the supposed benefit this gave Master alliances for planning. well not everyone is in a Master's alliance.
i actually quite enjoy the new persistent thing and what it could be so hopefully things get ironed out.
Let alone those people who are not on the forums (majority)
Every step they try to take forward pushes them 5 steps back and have to redo things. As a programmer I can feel the complications of things redoing than creating an new one. Every module/function is interlinked to many modules when altered effect all the other links. No same programmer works on the same module everytime which creates a void in the links due to the manpower allocation. Can understand things happening.
Compensation or not, doesn’t matter but need of solution to all these issues is the most worrisome thing at the moment.
They can take more time to fix things before perfect launch of one of the competitive modes in this game
Fingers crossed for the faster launch
A little over one day to go, and still no update on another delay or any details regarding what's going on, smh.
As an alliance Leader that's been trying to keep things organized and everyone updated during all of this, it's been rough, to be kind...
Probably my worst experience yet with War in the 5+ total years I've played MCOC.
Respectfully, in my opinion, please:
- scrub the currently already delayed Season 43 altogether
- send compensation equal to last seasons adjusted final results to all current members
- take the time you need to fix everything
- then start next season (44) early if you want/can
I don't feel like this is too much or farfetched, and gives everyone the time they want/need to adjust to/fix all of this. Good luck, Kabam!