Wonder which mode kabaam will kill first. War or bg? I mean it won't die but war will have 20-25 alliances using items and 50 points in gc will get you mysterium in a few months
it's so bad they've even lost touch with veteran war players with years of t1 experience. the sudden difficulty change is so snobby and elitist, like who is this even targeted to?
This is the exact same node from a few seasons ago that was just slightly reworked and introduced again. They didn't learned from their past mistakes it seems ...
People don’t complain as much anymore probably because they just deal with it, but failed parries/dropped inputs still happen quite a bit.
Some of us stopped complaining because Kabam stopped listening. Personally, I get my comments taken down and get warnings for saying things Kabam doesn’t want to hear. And I’m very very cordial in my approach. Whenever something as anti-player as this War tactic comes about, Kabam typically drags their feet in fixing it. I’d rather be wrong, but I suspect this will be at least a very ugly and low-participating upcoming War season. Kabam has lost touch with the players on what we find fun in this game. Our time spent in the game has even been declared as “not a valuable resource”… so we’re likely gonna have to suffer through this with little to no changes made, realistically.
I think you’ve hit the core of the problem. The lack of communication is starting to become frustrating. I really hope the inputs that were given with this topic ain’t going to be ignored as it happened with the Aw defense mastieries. ( it’s 2024 and we still have to switch masteries for every placement due to mysterious reasons).
It is surprising how they came out with such a global after A LOT of Platinum and master alliances skipped a season because of the previous node.
Maybe opening up to the community and listening would be the smart move on the long run. Nobody is asking for free resources or easy wars, just playable ones
AW is a joke. Bottomline unplayable. The previous one was bad but this is ridiculous.
It's not enough that they dumped Persistant Placement on us full of defaults. No word to address any of the feedback the community gave on it. Members locked out of placement. Officers not able to remove defenders from bgs themselves.
People don’t complain as much anymore probably because they just deal with it, but failed parries/dropped inputs still happen quite a bit.
Some of us stopped complaining because Kabam stopped listening. Personally, I get my comments taken down and get warnings for saying things Kabam doesn’t want to hear. And I’m very very cordial in my approach. Whenever something as anti-player as this War tactic comes about, Kabam typically drags their feet in fixing it. I’d rather be wrong, but I suspect this will be at least a very ugly and low-participating upcoming War season. Kabam has lost touch with the players on what we find fun in this game. Our time spent in the game has even been declared as “not a valuable resource”… so we’re likely gonna have to suffer through this with little to no changes made, realistically.
I think you’ve hit the core of the problem. The lack of communication is starting to become frustrating. I really hope the inputs that were given with this topic ain’t going to be ignored as it happened with the Aw defense mastieries. ( it’s 2024 and we still have to switch masteries for every placement due to mysterious reasons).
It is surprising how they came out with such a global after A LOT of Platinum and master alliances skipped a season because of the previous node.
Maybe opening up to the community and listening would be the smart move on the long run. Nobody is asking for free resources or easy wars, just playable ones
being frank, they don't seem to care about feedback and just want to force a new direction.
-2 broken globals in a row -4 busted defenders in 4 months not including photon -breaking the system with crush, then selling a solution by separating t1 and 2 and branding t1 as "elite", which no one wanted or asked for
seasons had plenty of issues over the years like piloting, big shakeups like defender diversity, outdated potions, and switching currencies, but it managed to hold together fine for 6 years and now suddenly it's being turned into a luxury mode crafted for the finest players.
"if you don't like it you can quit" is what i'm hearing.
Freaking ridiculous and they drop this on the weekend so they probably won’t fix it before the season starts
Season starts in 11 days. I'd be surprised if it wasn't fixed by then.
I'm just glad the bugs with the tactic were made apparent during the offseason and not the actual season.
Crush/Sturdy was left a mess for an entire season, it still wasn't great last season. I'm not holding out hope, they keep trying out these fancy tactics that sound cool in principle but just suck any skill and fun out of the game.
Can't wait to face an Adam warlock on one eye open hazard shift node.
Dude !!! I am literally stuck on this node right now & came here to see how everyone else were dealing with this.
Freaking ridiculous and they drop this on the weekend so they probably won’t fix it before the season starts
Season starts in 11 days. I'd be surprised if it wasn't fixed by then.
I'm just glad the bugs with the tactic were made apparent during the offseason and not the actual season.
Crush/Sturdy was left a mess for an entire season, it still wasn't great last season. I'm not holding out hope, they keep trying out these fancy tactics that sound cool in principle but just suck any skill and fun out of the game.
Can't wait to face an Adam warlock on one eye open hazard shift node.
War im in we have a kate bishop on that node its bad like im just healing her than damaging
Kabam thinks every alliance has a war planner officer beyond t5 wars. Its not true, not everyone has time to do so, but as said before, who cares about time anyway. The average allies will keep scoring like 60 deaths per BG and thats it
Kabam thinks every alliance has a war planner officer beyond t5 wars. Its not true, not everyone has time to do so, but as said before, who cares about time anyway. The average allies will keep scoring like 60 deaths per BG and thats it
I don't think it's about planning . The nodes are not doable even if u plan . There are tons of interactions where u cannot get the defender down.. it's a **** tactic what was not tested and thrown to us... What Kabam should have used as Attack Tactic Should say "Pay 5 Dollars to solo the defender " use that tactic for perfect war.
Kabam thinks every alliance has a war planner officer beyond t5 wars. Its not true, not everyone has time to do so, but as said before, who cares about time anyway. The average allies will keep scoring like 60 deaths per BG and thats it
I don't think it's about planning . The nodes are not doable even if u plan . There are tons of interactions where u cannot get the defender down.. it's a **** tactic what was not tested and thrown to us... What Kabam should have used as Attack Tactic Should say "Pay 5 Dollars to solo the defender " use that tactic for perfect war.
Indeed; planning and exchanging paths for better match ups maybe make some fights better, but surely there are some that are pure bs
Wonder which mode kabaam will kill first. War or bg? I mean it won't die but war will have 20-25 alliances using items and 50 points in gc will get you mysterium in a few months
I run path 9. There aren’t a lot of immunity options for the hazard shifts. Any plan to mitigate those?
Same here - it's **** - like 4 attackers and half will probably be banned. Would like to see devs do every path with tactics to show us how reasonable they are before release.
Watch kabam take a few days to respond this and only fixing the bug about the indestructible not being removed and completely ignoring the other bad interactions, such as the unblockable nodes/champions
Either kabam not learned their lesson or this is completely intentional as an attempt to drive more and more item usage in AW, when Crush was announced, kabam said they were going to bring back some older defense tactic and this current tactic is a copycat of Stubborn, which was also hated back in 2019-2020
i'm concerned that kabam will keep this tactic the way it is for 2 months and the next tactic will be another one that was hated and just giving another name/champs tags
I just fought a thing on path 1 and omg this fight is impossible, i tried a r2 7* storm x which is an xmagica attacker and a maxed out kate bishop and he’s still at full health. This magic thief tactic just isnt gonna work with a lot of other node combinations and defenders in certain fights
Void should work. He’s tactic and will handle any regen
He wont work if that fight had a hulkling instead for example, too many regens he gon go unblockable and start stacking indestructible from the tactic and boom u cant parry anymore and the fight is over. This tactic has to change u cant let the whole counter rely solely on well timed blocks when we have an entire path of unblockable nodes and anti parry nodes like node 49
And on top of all that. What happens when alliances start banning the limited pool of answers to the point where answers just don't exist and now you can't do the fight without spending units on revives and potions. Is war going to become another everest content you don't have to do if it's too hard in thier eyes? Would the solution be to not allow banning xmagick champs?
Void is going to be banned every war. He’s the only champ that can deal with heal nodes. Claire and toad are the only tactics that can deal with node 49. But If you put a poison or incinerate immune, now it’s just 1 of those. Iceman is the only one who can deal with path 9 and bullseye well.
So void, Claire/toad, and iceman bans make for some un-counter-able fights.
It happening so often, I think these are intentionally overtuned. Then kabam will respond a week or later saying they will tone it down to exactly where they want it. Give themself a pat on the shoulder, “yup, we tone it down for the community”
How about the fact that destroyer just happens to be an x-magica tactic attacker and destroys all indestructible buffs being released right when this tactic comes out? Coincidental surely…
It happening so often, I think these are intentionally overtuned. Then kabam will respond a week or later saying they will tone it down to exactly where they want it. Give themself a pat on the shoulder, “yup, we tone it down for the community”
I know we're referred to as "dumbonners" by some of them, and sometimes treated like dirt in the forums, and don't forget our time spent using their product isn't important, but jeez... would they go thru all this trouble on purpose? They can't possibly think that upsetting the hell out of players is a good thing...
I reckon it's lack of testing and foresight of the interactions between nodes and champions rather than some extremely flawed strategy. Both are terrible tbh.
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Then it's a nightmare.
I think you’ve hit the core of the problem.
The lack of communication is starting to become frustrating.
I really hope the inputs that were given with this topic ain’t going to be ignored as it happened with the Aw defense mastieries. ( it’s 2024 and we still have to switch masteries for every placement due to mysterious reasons).
It is surprising how they came out with such a global after A LOT of Platinum and master alliances skipped a season because of the previous node.
Maybe opening up to the community and listening would be the smart move on the long run. Nobody is asking for free resources or easy wars, just playable ones
It's not enough that they dumped Persistant Placement on us full of defaults. No word to address any of the feedback the community gave on it. Members locked out of placement. Officers not able to remove defenders from bgs themselves.
Then stupid globals on top of stupid globals.
-2 broken globals in a row
-4 busted defenders in 4 months not including photon
-breaking the system with crush, then selling a solution by separating t1 and 2 and branding t1 as "elite", which no one wanted or asked for
seasons had plenty of issues over the years like piloting, big shakeups like defender diversity, outdated potions, and switching currencies, but it managed to hold together fine for 6 years and now suddenly it's being turned into a luxury mode crafted for the finest players.
"if you don't like it you can quit" is what i'm hearing.
Indeed; planning and exchanging paths for better match ups maybe make some fights better, but surely there are some that are pure bs
Either kabam not learned their lesson or this is completely intentional as an attempt to drive more and more item usage in AW, when Crush was announced, kabam said they were going to bring back some older defense tactic and this current tactic is a copycat of Stubborn, which was also hated back in 2019-2020
i'm concerned that kabam will keep this tactic the way it is for 2 months and the next tactic will be another one that was hated and just giving another name/champs tags
So void, Claire/toad, and iceman bans make for some un-counter-able fights.
Coincidental surely…
I know we're referred to as "dumbonners" by some of them, and sometimes treated like dirt in the forums, and don't forget our time spent using their product isn't important, but jeez... would they go thru all this trouble on purpose? They can't possibly think that upsetting the hell out of players is a good thing...
I reckon it's lack of testing and foresight of the interactions between nodes and champions rather than some extremely flawed strategy. Both are terrible tbh.